Sword and Bored: 10 rats

You knew this one would eventually come. Who hasn’t run the kill-10-rats quest in every MMO? Now our favorite silent protagonist gets to run his first quest on his new PvE server. I promise this time he does not get stabbed in the back.

Before we jump to the comic, I want to comment on the comments we’ve received with all of these posts so far. One of my favorite things is reading what you think Mo should do next or what you think he’s going to do. Of course, we can’t follow all the suggestions because of time or they just don’t fit the vision we have for the character, but we are reading them. Don’t be surprised if we actually listen and have Mo follow some of your suggestions.

With that said, keep the comments rolling, and here’s this week’s Sword and Bored

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lunshea
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lunshea

No reason to hide the fact that most mmo’s are full of ‘kill 10 rats’ quests, they’re all having it. Learn from Everquest 2!

http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Kill_10_Rats

This quest title was honest, self-explanatory and gave me a good laugh as well :)

mysecretid
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mysecretid

ausj3w3l 
Ah yes, Dead Space. I liked the first one well enough, but (in my opinion) the sequels got more and more formulaic. Dead Space 3 I played, hoping it would get better as it went along. It really didn’t.
And then I played Alien: Isolation, and realized how the source material works (for me) so much better than the pseudo-homage.
My opinions only, of course,

WildarX
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WildarX

Air elementals carry their loot in air pockets

StClair
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StClair

“I saw a mudcrab the other day.”

MewmewGirl
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MewmewGirl

We used to ask and wonder where the small animals were carrying their loot.  Like small bats that have big items and bunches of gold, too big for their bodies, so we imagined they were carrying them around in their mouths.  People do seem to prefer this kind of gaming over the realistic drop kind though :D

This reminds me of something else as well.  We all know the “kill 10 rats” quests.  I was playing this game where I got a quest to “Kill 10 Rats” – but when going to the quest area, “10 Rats” ended up being the name of this giant dude instead of it actually being 10 rats :D  It was cute to see it turn out to be something different using that same old gaming staple.

ManastuUtakata
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ManastuUtakata

wolfyseyes 
…not to mention the organic facial expression on a metal plate helm. Perhaps MO is a golem, instead of a humanoid. o.O

wolfyseyes
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wolfyseyes

Honestly, in a comic where a guy emotes via helmet plume? I was not paying terribly rapt attention. lol

Kanbe
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Kanbe

This reminds me of Bards Tale. “I just killed a wolf that appears to have swallowed a small treasury.”
Next Mo can go back and turn the quest in for a brand new and totally different quest. The same npc will now tell him to gather 15 rat tails. Huge difference because now instead of just killing rats he has to gather a quest item that will naturally only drop if the quest is active. But hey its totally different this time and much more intresting this time!

Oleg Chebeneev
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Oleg Chebeneev

What an original and funny joke!

ps/ biggest sarcasm of my life

ManastuUtakata
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ManastuUtakata

Shaddoe 
Some of us might presume he may have laid it down outside the panel viewing… >.>

Cyroselle
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Cyroselle

JonBuck Huuuuuuuuge shoulders, with an erupting volcano on each, of course!

Cyroselle
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Cyroselle

ClassicCrime Not to mention, we can go swimming in full plate, and we never have to dry our hair or clothes!

Cyroselle
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Cyroselle

Shaddoe Ha! Typical MMO physics I guess, maybe he has a Sack of Holding, and that’s just par the course for everyone in his world. :)

Cyroselle
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Cyroselle

ZenDadaist sounds a bit like the crafting premise in the Monster Hunter franchise. Which I adore BTW. it makes way more sense to craft together an Axe of Wanton Destruction out of found parts than it does finding one in the lower intestine of a wild boar.

ZenDadaist
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ZenDadaist

I did play a handheld RPG once (I forget the name, was on the DS) that didn’t have loot drops off mobs, instead you salvaged usable parts like cuts of meat or hides or internal organs used in brewing magic potions. You then either processed them yourself or sold them to traders who could and with the money you got you went to smiths and vendors to buy things. Made far more sense :p

The middle ground is money I suppose. In a futuristic game like Eve or AO you can be paid a bounty, immediately transferred to your banking account upon confirmation that the target’s biosigns have flatlined, for downing a baddie. I just wish more effort was put into item drops to make a bit more sense. At least AO has random bodyparts belonging to unlucky earlier visitors in the stomachs of Shadowlands mobs that you can salvage for implants. That makes some sense at least!

Shaddoe
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Shaddoe

So I knew this going into this comic, and it kind of makes it funnier to me: Did anyone notice that pulling a giant axe out of a rat confuses him, but every time he’s emoting or doing something that’s not combat related, his sword and shield completely disappear.

BKone
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BKone

ausj3w3l Well, it’s Dead Space. No rest for the dead lol.

Loyheta
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Loyheta

this is reminding me of Bard’s Tale. Love that game. Very funny strip.. love the expressions on his face(plate)

Nordavind
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Nordavind

Narayan There is a difference between realistic and plausible. And it all has to been seen in context with the worlds lore. Some things are not plausible no matter how you explain it. And those things are often game mechanics needed to have an enjoyable game. Like our magical inventories.

ClassicCrime
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ClassicCrime

well if i can carry around 80 pieces of metal armour in an invisible bag, a rat can sure as hell eat a greataxe

its just logic!

Siphaed
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Siphaed

No More Tears 
Not safe for a bunch of things.  Well over 1/2 of those are straight out porn…funny porn, but still porn.

neserbohy
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neserbohy

A Dad Supreme Not to mention skinning their tiny crustacean corpses for fur scraps.

breetoplay
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breetoplay

dirtyklingon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_%28fuel%29 <3

Pesko
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Pesko

EO_Lonegun +5 to Entertaining.

ausj3w3l
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ausj3w3l
Shaddoe
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Shaddoe

TheDonDude I don’t think the genre leap is out of the question. :-D

Shaddoe
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Shaddoe

No More Tears I’ve read every Oglaf comic. It’s a great comic — an inspiration, really. Maybe someday this comic will be up to that level (not subject matter, of course.) That said, Sword and Bored is its own thing. We have drawn inspiration from many sources, but to be perfectly honest, most of it is from our own experiences.
We have accepted the challenge of writing the protagonist as being silent, even though we knew it would definitely be difficult sometimes. But what’s art without a bit of sweat and tears? However, we aren’t going to only have silent comics. We have other characters to introduce and most — if not all — of them speak.
Do keep in mind that we are only five strips in. We are mostly still setting the tone for the comic still.
I do thank you for the comment; it’s good to hear what thoughtful people think of what we are doing. Hopefully, we will only continue to get better.

Narayan
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Narayan

Blackomen That was the point, they all do break the laws of physics. I’m not gonna elaborate on this, cause it’s late at night here & there were several write ups already on fantasy tropes from the physics/ reality standpoint. You can either look them up or stick to believing what you believe – don’t care. There is just no way to distill years of science studies into one post, so I won’t even attempt it. Although you just gave me a small insight as to why some things may seem more plausible than others to many people.

Denngar
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Denngar

I still remember getting a raft figurine from a fox in Darkfall. It made some sense (I could see a fox being curious and picking it up, or maybe choking it down if it was small), but at the same time, I wondered, “Did the fox make or use this?”

Zariarn
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Zariarn

I recall looting items from the cows in Goldshire years ago.

Damonvile
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Damonvile

Blackomen Narayan Nope, dragons, giant arachnids and flying horses all “break” the laws of physics ( and biology ), just most people don’t understand why so they can accept them more easily. You see them often enough growing up you just come to think of them as ok. Just like people walking around on space ships that aren’t spinning. Totally fine…and totally BS.

Damonvile
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Damonvile

samruck  Wow…that’s evil. I laughed a lot.

Blackomen
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Blackomen

Narayan Because at least fireballs, dragons, flying horses, and giant arachnids don’t break the laws of physics and reality itself, all of those things “could” have existed at some point given the right evolutionary curve. (Ok fireballs being made with “magic” is of course fake as hell. But giant spiders likely DID exist back in prehistoric times when the oxygen levels were 3x as high.)

imayb1
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imayb1

Wratts I can see him now, eyeing the decked-out leaping lizard and the fancy flying whozit. Then checking his coin purse and riding away with a sad face and a sparkle pony.

imayb1
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imayb1

No More Tears Oglaf is a riot. Very NSFW, most of it. :D

Emmanuel Carabott
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Emmanuel Carabott

Mark Jacobs dirtyklingon Emmanuel Carabott

Well obviously gameplay always trumps realism. as funny as it is killing 10 wolves to get 1 tooth, it makes for a better experience than killing 1 wolf and finishing the quest 4 time. As great as it would be to perfectly marry realism and the needs of the game , striking that perfect balance for so many quests  must be close to impossible. 

So in service to games we have to experience things like cute bunny like creatures swallowing a plate armor chest piece whole ( I am guesting that’s why stuff drops, critters swallow it up while mauling fallen adventures. Doesnt make much sense but its always nice to get shiny loot :)

On the plus side this all makes great material for the adventures of MO :)

samruck
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samruck
Craywulf
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Craywulf

This cartoon strip really does a fine job of showing how illogical loot drops are in MMOs. Try explaining this to a non-gamer and they laugh at the idea that you can scavenge a rat for currency (including XP) and gear from a feeble rat….and call it farming! 

Personally I find it to be lazy game development to have impractical and excessive loot drops from kills. Drops from kills should reap what the creature can carry. Rats…meat, goblin…unique and salvageable item such as frayed leather belt or pewter necklace charm. Unsalvaged they should reap no value to any NPC vendor, but hold value to open market. Salvageable for crafting material. RNG should only be used for the quality of item. Such as new, used, or broken. So you can kill a goblin who’s using an axe and shield, You will get them, but the quality they are in is entirely RNG. This way unique items from bosses are guaranteed, but it’s just a matter of whether you get a new, used or broken one. The latter can be repaired at a cost based on the value of the item. So rare unique items are more costly to repair. 

In general currency and gear should be rewarded by exploration and crafting. Finding a treasure (guarded by monsters) is the most reasonable and accessible way to explain this to non-gamers. It removes the notion of farming builds, It possibly fosters group play (search parties for treasure).

Narayan
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Narayan

I’m often surprised that the same people that suspend their disbelief in fantasy games (fireballs, dragons, flying horses, giant arachnids, and magic as a lazy excuse why this or that works when it shouldn’t) can’t seem to mentally process looting objects out of animals. 
Why do weapons drop out of rats? Magic! 
Less lazy excuse? Fine … let’s say it’s alchemical transmutation woven into the fabric of the fantasy world. Living beings condense into energy after death (notice that their bodies usually disappear – where else would they go?) and from that energy objects are materialized. Energy/mass conservation + equal value exchange rules & such.
These things only seem absurd (well at least much more than the rest of make belief fantasy ideas) when devs don’t bother to explain & incorporate them well. Having millions respawning immortal players in what otherwise was quite mortal world was ridiculed as well. But when games like Allods Online (a lot of background on why both players and npcs come back from the dead there) or The Secret World or others build whole lore around that, made this issue kind of self aware & incorporated it so well, that you even have to use it as a means to solve puzzles, then suddenly the respawn thing started to seem less absurd, quite “normal” even in those well pieced together settings.
Someone somewhere will come up with good written lore on why you pull an axe from animal’s stomach & we finally won’t feel compelled to rewrite the same jokes ;)

CraySD
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CraySD

I wonder how the ratonga in EQ2 felt about the “kill 10 rats” quest.

A Dad Supreme
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A Dad Supreme

The other place where large weapons come from…

Nome Marth
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Nome Marth

Axe from a rat? Mo confirmed p2w

krieglich
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krieglich

Speaking of rats …

skoryy
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skoryy

Having just recently collected body armors and power cells from sand scorpions, this one is entirely relevant. :D

JonBuck
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JonBuck

So, this is Mo in his starter gear. What will Max Level Mo look like? Will we ever see a Mo in a different genre (ie: Sci-Fi Mo)? Though it would be funny if Mo didn’t change no matter the setting genre. I guess up next is seeing what happens when Mo levels.

ManastuUtakata
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ManastuUtakata

The absurdism of loot drops to a capital “WTF?” It gets even more interesting when the RNG can make them drop more than just that the one item. o.O
…but either way, absolutely one the of the best spearings I’ve seen done on this subject! Made my day! <3

krieglich
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krieglich

BalsBigBrother Yeah, the old story of dancing naked in the moonlight in a cucumber patch. :D

MagmaFist
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MagmaFist

Considering how it works, maybe Mo should use the rat as a coin purse.

LegendOfVinnyT
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LegendOfVinnyT

BalsBigBrother xXxKrameRxXx@NYCosmo: It was a million-to-one-shot, doc!

jauffins
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jauffins

BalsBigBrother 
Rabies, etc.

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