SWTOR players harass a BioWare dev and his family

What do you do when MMO devs mess with your favorite class? If you’re a handful of Star Wars: The Old Republic players, you spam invective at BioWare systems designer John Jarynowski on social media. But you don’t stop there. You also hunt down the accounts of “his family members with the sole purpose of harassing, insulting, and threatening him” because of his class-related forum posts.

BioWare community manager Eric Musco posted a response today on the game’s official forum. “Please understand John didn’t need to communicate his perspective about the class. John and the combat team knew giving their views on Sentinels and Marauders, in some cases, would not be received well, but he did it anyway,” Musco wrote. “The alternative is that we stay silent. If the reaction of this community is to go out of your way to personally harass someone we will stop having a dialog.”

[Source: BioWare forums; thanks Slambit!]
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Fathdris
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Fathdris

Direcrow To be fair, most MMO decisions from Blizzard,Bioware, Sony, and any other company, piss off at least one player. Not every decision is going to prove to be popular… and balancing changes are among those.Doesn’t mean they should avoid doing those changes.

Fathdris
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Fathdris

MMO players are so f***ing immature at times. >.< If you feel the need to do that, then please format your computer.You are scum and should stay out of the gaming scene.

NunayaBiddness
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NunayaBiddness

Don’t you know who I am? Im Da Jugganaught Biotch!

Direcrow
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Direcrow

“We knew it would piss people off but did it anyway” seems to be the team motto over at SWTOR’s developer studios. Seeing as they’ve been doing it since launch. However that doesn’t justify this level of sociopathic behavior. Leave the man’s family out of it. Disgusting. Yes, the guy is a tool like most of Bioware’s lead staff, but that doesn’t mean go after his loved ones.

blackcatcrosses
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blackcatcrosses

Alatar You’re right. You ARE sorry here.

pepinocantador
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War_Historian Quinnocent The ‘entitled’ part is the social justice red herring used to categorize and devalue a group or person, in order to devalue their position. Does ‘some average people working at a company thought something could be a great idea, but didn’t think of all the repercussions’ sound as totally awesome as ‘the evil, corporate, out of touch, racist, sexist, bigoted, entitled white men in suits in charge of this monolithic house of oppression are once again conspiring to take away everything dear to you’?

Quinnocent speaks of online harassment they suffered, which sucks. However, does everyone actually think only the NSA can obtain your information without your consent? Especially with World of Warcraft; I’m sure I’m not the only one that can fairly easily obtain your personal information with access to only your character name and server. Social engineering, and a little know-how, and you’d be amazed how easy it is to obtain information, totally without realID… Or is the belief here that everyone working everywhere you’ve ever put information into (on the internet, and in real life) is 100% trustworthy? 

Personally, I follow white hat, ethical hacking principals when researching security, but I’m not a person anyone needs to be worried about; there are many, far more adept people out there for whom ethics are not a major concern.

Basically, the only thing you prevent by stopping realID is any form of accountability. Any protection of privacy is illusory.

GratisGaming
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JimGriffiths NobleNerd Yes, and the folks at Charlie Hebdo just needed to learn not to insult other peoples’ faith. /s
Come ON, man. Do you really think that jabbing at someone’s preferred class in a video game is comparable to doxxing, harassment, or threats?

bardamu1999
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JimGriffiths Such bullshit.  Tell me when is the last time a dev cursed out a player?  Or doxxed them?  Or threatened them physically?  Or threatened their family physically?  SWATed?  

You have got to be kidding with this fucking moral equivalency shit.  Honestly.  Shameful.

War_Historian
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Quinnocent 
I totally agree with you that it was a “well-intentioned, but . . . ultimately disastrous policy,” but I part with you on the “entitled ignorance” assertion. I think it certainly represented a lack of forethought about the privacy rights that most people (regardless of gender, skin color, religious creed, sexual preference, or socio-economic status) hold dear. For example, I am a white, male, heterosexual, middle-class, Christian, and Anglo-named American, but I was ready to leave Blizzard over REALID because I value my privacy. Hence, I fail to see any connection to the white-privilege nonsense that gets tossed about with reckless abandon. While I imagine their hope was to hold people accountable for their words and actions, it was just a bad policy predicated on a lack of forethought about how much people of all shapes and stripes value their privacy.

Quinnocent
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pepinocantador breetoplay arcady01 ArbsX 
I definitely didn’t support the lengths to which people went with their response during the Real-ID incident.  Sometimes poetic justice is decidedly unjust.  What was done was unsafe and probably had lasting effects on the sense of security of those in question, and they didn’t deserve that, especially for a well-intentioned decision.

But I also definitely do agree with Bree.  Real-ID was well-intentioned, but it was ultimately a disastrous policy born of entitled ignorance.  It’s a little hard to understand if you haven’t lived it and aren’t vulnerable to it because, when you’re not the usual target or if you have the power to resist, certain issues matter less to you.

I’ve been stalked in MMO’s.  “Just ignore him.”  Then you get his friends asking you why on his behalf.  They think he’s the greatest, most wonderful guy.  And if they can’t talk to you, they talk to your guildmates.  “Report him.”  Ban who?  Ban him?  That won’t be the end of it.  Ban his guild who takes him at his word when he lies about you?  Ban his entire multigaming community?  They’ll back him.  No.  Online stalking isn’t a lone maniac skulking about that just needs to be kicked out.  It’s a gang of faceless bullies, and you can never get them all.  You cannot win.  Your stalker gives up, or you quit the game.  Imagine that scenario with them having your real identity.  Especially if, like me, you have a very distinct first and last name combination.

I don’t need to imagine it, though.  I have lived and still live with it IRL.  Facebook, at least, has privacy settings which allow you to tightly restrict what information goes out, and I make good use of them.  You’re right, though.  Some features automatically publish your identity when you use them, and I can never use those.  I’m excluded from any social media feature which is automatically outwardly facing with my real identity because there are people who like to keep tabs on me.  That’s not my hypothetical paranoia.  That’s a well-confirmed fact I will have to live with, probably for the rest of my life.  You can say “I suppose that’s also a result of the ‘well-off white dude’ cabal forcing the end of privacy” with snark.  Just so you understand, that’s something which, without any exaggeration, scares me.