Sword and Bored: Ninja Loot

Our hero, Mo, has finally found a group of friendly players, and although they might have lost their first big battle, they will eventually prevail. Perhaps our hero has found some people he could actually play the game with. After all, many MMORPGs are all about the group play — or at least, having the possibility of having other players to quest with.

Let’s find out what our adventurers are up to in this week’s comic…

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Robert80
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Robert80

Neo_Wolf  Sadly, many people know and chose to act this way.  I agree it would be a nice touch for players new to the genre.

BigMikeyOcho
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BigMikeyOcho

Oleg Chebeneev See: Prisoner’s Dilemma, if you assume everyone else will cheat, you have to cheat yourself in order to get ahead. I assume that’s what you mean by “experienced”, those who have been cheated themselves by someone else in the past and take it out on everyone else.

flatline4400
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flatline4400

Vexia I assume so, given the wonderfully emotive helmet-hair hehe…

flatline4400
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flatline4400

ZenDadaist They actually had that (name change history page) in EQ when they first started offering name changes wayyy back when.  Page is long gone now, though…

Giggilybits
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Giggilybits

Ahhh those were the days. No not that I ninja looted but before everything turned into carebear land.

Neo_Wolf
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Neo_Wolf

They should include LOOTING explained LOOTING etiquette in EVERY tutorial.  SO many folks out there either don’t get it or don’t care and then join groups whereby they need for everything or need for things they can’t use, or need for alts etc…  I’ve seen SO many player flare ups because of idiot looters over the years.

Darthbawl
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Darthbawl

“Seriously, no Rogues” ROFL!!! :D

vinicitur
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vinicitur

Ok, that rogue need to die lol

Damonvile
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Damonvile

Only if you’ve never seen the original version…..

Vexia
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Vexia

BrotherMaynard Funnily enough, I unknowingly ninja’d a really nice early DPS mace (Baron’s Scepter) from a rogue during my noob days in WoW, and I was playing on a priest character.

ZenDadaist
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ZenDadaist

I miss the days when character name couldn’t be easily changed without a total reroll, and in-game community reputation actually meant something. Consequences for one’s actions were actually a thing. If you had a rep as a selfish arse or serial ninja, no one would invite you to anything, leaving you stuck with randoms and noobs to play with. In-game punishment for in-game asshattery. Wish this could still be a thing, but now all it takes is a few miknutes and maybe a few £$ and bam – new name, server, look, whatever. Free to go about being an arse all over again.

Apollymi
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Apollymi

KalaMona BrotherMaynard Yeppers, took me a while to figure that one out as well.

StClair
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StClair

Rebel Engie If they’re actually clicking Greed, that’s being considerate.  That makes it a roll, but a fair one.
More likely, everyone rolls Need because if they don’t and anyone else does, they’re screwed.

StClair
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StClair

MewmewGirl I roll Greed when running with my fleet, because I trust them to do the same, or in pick up groups if I’m really don’t care about the loot (just there for the marks etc) but not quite enough to outright pass.  If I want to get an actual fair share of the drops, I roll Need, because I [i]have[/i] to or I’ll get almost nothing.  Sorry, but you know it’s true.

KalaMona
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KalaMona

BrotherMaynard Yeah I remember when the first loot dropped in the caverns under Orgrimmar. The game asked “Need or Greed”. “Greed” sounded like something greedy and evil, so I choosed “Need”.

Robert80
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Robert80

Oleg Chebeneev  Well, go enjoy your nearly worthless profit.  Meanwhile, those noobs will eventually grow up, and just when you think you have a raid group filled… it comes out that you ninja loot and *poof* half of the raid is gone.
Karma eventually catches up, even in MMOs.  Just don’t be surprised when that day comes.

Robert80
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Robert80

BrotherMaynard  Everyone is a noob at sometime.  There’s a difference, and while it may not be fun for other players, it is far more forgivable than the ninja for lulz.

BrotherMaynard
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BrotherMaynard

Does noobishness count? I did this once in my very first weeks of MMO gaming (WoW was MY first MMO) – I didn’t know anything about the game (or MMOs in general) or about its classes, it was probably my second dungeon ever. A shiny sword dropped and I rolled a spectacular roll to enter (my) history books. In my defense, I did not say “l8r, noobs”, but “wooooow”, as any true noob in my place would. And yes, I was a hunter…

camelotcrusade
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camelotcrusade

So… did anyone else wonder what  eighteen-R meant?  Ohhh that’s an “L.”  /facepalm

JonBuck
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JonBuck

Esoteric Coyote NCsucks Greedo never even got a chance to shoot! Han pulled his blaster under the table and shot him before Greedo pulled the trigger.

Oleg Chebeneev
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Oleg Chebeneev

I can only laugh at those who criticize such behavior. The rogue did smart thing, and I would do the same in his place. Seriously, why share epic loot with some noobs that mean nothing to me? Even if I cant wear the sword I can sell it and use money for my benefit. It isnt called ninja looting. It is called SMART looting.

Vexia
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Vexia

Anne is probably a warrior too, isn’t she? If anything, McStabs saved them from being angry at each other over the inevitable same-class loot conflict. Now instead they can have an online friendship over their mutual hatred for that one guy who ninja’d the sword that so rightfully belonged to them. Those are the strongest of all online friendships. :P

DeadlyAccurate
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DeadlyAccurate

MewmewGirl I always chose round robin when I could. Need or Greed is one of those things that makes me dislike grouping. I’ll only roll Need if I really do need it, otherwise I roll Greed, but then there’s at least one person who rolls Need and automatically gets it. Since it pisses me off when people do that, I just don’t group with strangers.

Loyheta
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Loyheta

grrrr.. ninja looters

MewmewGirl
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MewmewGirl

In games that allow open rolling / looting, this unfortunately has happened to nearly all of us.  There are games that have a need / greed system that were supposed to allow people to roll if they really needed something, and everybody else to roll greed, but 95% of the players in those games roll “Need” on all items, no matter if they can use them or not.  

When I first started grouping in Star Trek Online and saw everybody rolled Need on everything, I was saddened and surprised.  I am one of the few that actually passes on lots of stuff that I can’t use and rolls Greed on something if I especially want it – but since almost everybody else is always rolling “Need” they win the item over me even if they really are rolling for Greed reasons.

The only way the Need and Greed system works is if the game doesn’t allow you to roll on something if it’s not for your class.  If it only allows you to input Need if you actually can use something.  Sadly people can’t be trusted to not be selfish.

Sure if you play with friends, you can usually split stuff up easy enough.  I am only on short times, so all my grouping is PUGs.

Denngar
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Denngar

And that’s why I hate hard classes, static loot tables, and BoP gear (and the way instancing lets players be asshats without a trackable reputation).

wolfyseyes
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wolfyseyes

Oh thank GOD you got the mobile site working again properly.
On point…I always did wonder how we were supposed to just inherently know if a weapon was good for us character-wise. “Little Price Tag” makes perfect sense.

Esoteric Coyote
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Esoteric Coyote

This reminds me in Cata.  I had ran the same heroic dungeon to get catch up gear for my tank after this one trinket.  It finally dropped.  The dps warrior nabbed it and ran from the group.  One of the many reasons I’m not that into MMOs anymore.  Sadly it wasn’t even the first time fighting over tank gear in those instances.  Normally the comment is always “Well you’re the tank, just queue again!”  /facepalm

Esoteric Coyote
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Esoteric Coyote

NCsucks Han shot first!

Tethyss
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Tethyss

Well, the flip side is when you join a pug and mysteriously every good item is ear marked and called for by the leaders before you even got to the instance.

Robert80
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Robert80

This is why themeparks keep moving toward individual loot mechanics… because if somebody can be a jerkward in an online game, most likely somebody, eventually, will.

Rebel Engie
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Rebel Engie

This reminded me how everyone in STO clicks Greed in Fleet Actions…
Seriously, what’s up with that??

Maggie_May
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Maggie_May

He took it for his alt!
My excuse is that I’m slow …. I have trouble enough keeping up with all the speed runners, I barely have time to read what everything is.

Enikuo
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Enikuo

Well, if Mo had played GW2 instead, he’d be sitting pretty with his 2 blues, a green, and a pile of bloodstone dust. Just sayin.

Damonvile
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Damonvile

I’m a hunter I can use that!

camelotcrusade
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camelotcrusade

Ah, loot drama.  Reminds me of something I came across while looking at my screenshots the other day, this one from 2006.  None of us had ever seen a purple before, but unlike Mo, nobody in the group could use it.  Still, purple win bragging rights used to be something.

Siphaed
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Siphaed

And this is exactly why one advertises as such:

“LFM: NO NINJAS!”

You let a ninja dressed rogue into your group, of course they’re going to turn out to be a loot-ninja.  Obvious ninja is so obvious.  Just don’t trust the ninjas.

NCsucks
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NCsucks
mysecretid
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mysecretid

Ohnix 
Yup. We’ve got a legion of fantasy pawn-brokers in our games, now.
Gollum only wanted The Preciouss so he could sell it for big in-game cash …
Sorry that happened to ya, pal.

mysecretid
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mysecretid

I have been there! Oh, have I been there!

And so have you. :-)

People ask why I refuse to do pick-up-groups any more. :-) This is one of the many reasons pugs just suck in most games.

There are group missions in my games that offer a “rare loot drop” I would genuinely love to have, and would actively use, but grinding with pugs — I have found — is the road to disappointment. 
My opinions only, of course. Your mileage may vary, and that’s cool.

Ohnix
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Ohnix

waxing nostalgic here … first group, first chest drop and Templar master … warrior grabs it and puts it up on auction … I rolled a new character

ManastuUtakata
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ManastuUtakata

With new found *friends* like these…

Modrain
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Modrain

The good ol’ ninjas. They’re so cliché that I love to hate them.

BalsBigBrother
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BalsBigBrother

Bah!  Don’t know why Mo his miffed its not like he did anything as he spent the entire fight quivering on the floor like a jelly in an earthquake.  I could understand if they had run away with some pants as I imagine his current ones are a bit soiled and smelly :p
So the important lesson is when you are being carried through a fight expect to be screwed when it comes to loot ;-)

JonBuck
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JonBuck

Uh oh. Mo is angry. You won’t like him when he’s angry.

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