Marvel Heroes makes retcons free forever

Listen up, bub: The era of using rare retcon potions to reset your Marvel Heroes characters is about to end. Gazillion announced yesterday that it has decided to make retconning — the act of resetting power and omega points — an unlimited feature with next week’s second anniversary patch.

“With the evolution of the Marvel Heroes over the last two years, the sheer number of heroes that exist, the number of items, item slots, synergies and the ever increasing game modes, including raids with various mechanics and upcoming content such as Danger Room and Leaderboards, the time has come to allow player flexibility to win out over permanence of decision making when it comes to power point allocation,” the studio said.

Existing retcon potions will be turned into items that can be traded to a vendor for other goodies.

Source: Official forums. Thanks to BalsBigBrother for the tip!
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CensoredOtaku
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CensoredOtaku

Joseph C They sure did turn it around from the horrible pay system they launched with that’s for sure.

schmidtcapela
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schmidtcapela

DugFromTheEarth JonBuck 

I can play like that, carefully planning my builds. I just find it far less enjoyable than just experimenting freely and moving things around.

Kaloth
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Kaloth

GulrakDark I just finished downloading it to do just this.

GulrakDark
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GulrakDark

Damn I might jump back in to check things out, this is fantastic news!

Joseph C
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Joseph C

I’ve dumped about $600 into this game, and I’m proud to say I’m not ashamed in the slightest. This continued good will is the entire reason they keep getting my money year after year…

Margrave
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Margrave

AWESOME!

Gavaevodata
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Gavaevodata

Really making me want to jump in and play more with all this good deed stuff.

wjowski
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wjowski

omedon666 
“You’re welcome.”

Llokki
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Llokki

Couldn’t agree more. This is one of the few F2P games I actually feel good about spending money on, simply because of how generous they are giving away stuff for free.

mysecretid
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mysecretid

JonBuck 
I’ve been there too. I’ll probably be there again. :-)
Cheers,

JonBuck
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JonBuck

mysecretid Whenever I come back to playing this game I end up spending $30-50 in their shop for boosts and heroes.

Carthoris
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Carthoris

Great decision.

Retcons ended up being a huge barrier to entry for new players while seemingly falling from the sky for veterans. After a few months even relatively casual players can have a dozen rotting in their stash, taking up precious inventory space. They quickly go from feeling scarce and valuable to practically worthless.

The ability to respec omegas as you see fit in addition to skills is fantastic, since right now you’re encouraged to sit on hundreds of omegas until you can buy the next rank of the skill you *actually* want. For people that don’t farm omegas or run a lot of boosts, it feels really lame when after a day or two of farming you got 150 omegas… that you can’t use because the next rank costs 270.

They were also sold for Eternity Splinters, which is probably the biggest noob trap in all of F2P.

mysecretid
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mysecretid

I continue to be impressed by the level to which Gazillion seems to “get” their players, and attempts to treat them well.

Thus, I’m always happy to throw a little real money into their cash shop; treat me like a customer, instead of prey, and I do remember.

JonBuck
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JonBuck

DugFromTheEarth I’m glad I’ll be able to play with builds. But, I tend to play what looks fun, rather than what’s most effective.

mrnastybutler
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mrnastybutler

I rather like this decision .  Might get into the game more now cause of it.

DugFromTheEarth
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DugFromTheEarth

JonBuck Same here, but then, I do extensive research and use builder tools online to make sure my build ends up how I want it.

I doubt everyone plays this way, and is more prone to need a reset option.

AdeptusEnginus
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AdeptusEnginus

I actually find this surprising. Not that I disagree that Retcon potions don’t need to exist…just that, well they practically don’t exist already as it is, especially with the advent of dual-spec. Unless you are respec-ing multiple heroes on a daily basis, it’s all but impossible to actually run out of respec potions. I’ve got like, 80 saved up just from playing the game normally, and I think I’ve used a grand total of like, 4, in the whole of the time I play the game.

Ah well, no reason to complain about free stuff.

Ironwu
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Ironwu

A superior decision.
One the EQ2 made quite a while ago.
And that other MMOs have adopted as well.
Locking players into build that cannot easily, or ever, be changed is a defunct design.
Good on them!

omedon666
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omedon666

JonBuck For me, it was always the principle involved: “Are you suuuure you want to respec? You only have X number left….”  That’s just not something I swallow well.
Particularly with the Omega system, I really started to feel this now that all my crew are 60 and Omega actually matters to me.

JonBuck
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JonBuck

I have almost 50 retcon potions saved just from playing the game. I’ve never needed to purchase one.

omedon666
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omedon666

AAAAAHHHH!!!
THIS. WAS. THE ONLY THING. WRONG. WITH THE GAME!  IT IS FIXED!  I… I CAN’T EVEN! 

AM I DREAMING?! IS THIS REAL!!

boredinBC
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boredinBC

Honestly, what a great move.  Retcons were one of the few things I did not enjoy spending money on.  It’s so much more satisfying buying a hero or a skin or even a loot box.  By making retcons free they are adding value to every hero purchase by encouraging build diversity and experimentation.

Greaterdivinity
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Greaterdivinity

Sweet. Even though I’ve been stocking them up as I get them, this has always been something that was on my mind when I played. Guess I gotta find yet more time to carve out to work this back into my rotation -_-

Sorenthaz
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Sorenthaz

About freaking time.  Even a year ago when I played they were handing retcon potions out like candy to where I have a huge stockpile of them that have gone unused. So it’s hard to imagine that they’ve been making much profit off of them, and limiting retcons just led to me looking up cookie cutter builds so I wouldn’t have to take time to think about what skills were actually good to pick up.

KenAddeh
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KenAddeh

YESSS!!!! Finally I can experiment on all those build types I’ve been watching online.

BalsBigBrother
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BalsBigBrother

dirtyklingon keep a on eye on their news post in July :-)

BigMikeyOcho
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BigMikeyOcho

Esoteric Coyote Not even really hard to get later in game. I have about 40 of them, and just hit 60 on my second character last night. At this rate, and the fact they drop from chests fairly regularly, I’d never use them. Since I’m definitely not alone in that sentiment, and probably nobody is buying them, it’s a win-win for Gaz to just drop them entirely.

TrippinNinja
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TrippinNinja

Moondancerbb  You can play all the starter heroes to level 10 for free now. Also, I think right now they have an Avengers event going and they have added all the Avengers to the list.

BigMikeyOcho
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BigMikeyOcho

Nice! It’s not like retcons were hard to come by, by any stretch, but they’re right, with more modes of gameplay being stuck in a build is too dated of a tactic.

Llokki
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Llokki

You can play a small selection of ‘starter heroes’ up to level 10 for free if that helps you find your feet once more.

Neo_Wolf
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Neo_Wolf

Its a nice gesture although to be fair retconning in MHO was never a big deal as retcon items were pretty common it never has been like an atypical mmo where retcons are rare and expensive affairs.

Werewolf Finds Dragon
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Werewolf Finds Dragon

This is a good thing. Honestly, I’m tired of MMOs charging for player experimentation. I’m even ticked off at ESO for having an in-game price for it. But why? Isn’t it obvious? When you put a price on player experimentation, you’re literally forcing them to look up a build, just so they don’t screw themselves over on their first character. I’ve seen so, so many MMOs where that’s necessary. You’re literally forcing people to use a cookie-cutter build.
I wish I could slap ZOS around the chops for this, and have them remove the cost for a total respec, but since there’s an item on the cash shop for that now… well, it may not happen. That’s a shame, because there are plenty of other things they could put on the cash shop. My beau and I have sighed at them for not putting more costumes (such as casual NPC clothing and the like) up there. I feel that ESO is a hotbed for roleplayers, they should take advantage of that, rather than forcing cookie cutter builds.
I’m hard on ESO sometimes because it’s one of the few MMOs I like. Once I’ve ‘completed’ it (reached the end of the main storylines), I’ll be done with it. That I can do that and that the game is designed for that is why I’m playing it through, even. Still, for all the good I can say about ESO (it is a lot), there are criticisms. And this is one of them.
But it’s a criticism I can levy at almost every MMO, and many single player RPGs to boot. This isn’t something you want to do to people. It just ruins the diversity of potential builds, and the only people who end up testing different builds are theorycrafters pushing for the max numbers. And their builds are usually boring.
So this is a step in the right direction for Marvel Heroes, they deserve a pat on the back for that.

undeadtexan
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undeadtexan

“Existing retcon potions will be turned into items that can be traded to a vendor for other goodies.”
Very cool. When I heard about this my first thought was, “Ok, what about all those I saved up?”
I know most players got their retcons for free, but they are an item that’s sold in the cash shop, so hopefully the exchange is decent.

SexyKingJesus
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SexyKingJesus

YASSSS
Havent played since Oct but this sounds awesome

Moondancerbb
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Moondancerbb

I tried to get back into this game and was so overwhelmed immediately. I could not figure out my character level based on my character sheet, was in the middle of the savage lands with no talents. and like 300 dodads away from unlocking a second character to start over considering starting a new account from scratch but i have no idea how much i have put into my current black widow.

BalsBigBrother
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BalsBigBrother

I am so happy about this.  
I am not a great theory crafter when it comes to builds so as I result I tend to take go the try it and see what works approach. Which in Marvel Heroes up to this point would be some what tough to do without burning through all your retcon devices.  Hence I tended to stick with whatever safe build I came upon rather than try to iterate it to make it for fun for myself.
Now I can tinker all day and just go for it.  YES I AM EXCITED o/

Enikuo
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Enikuo

Apparently, it’s good news Thursday! I’ve yet to use any of my retcon potions, but knowing that I don’t have to buy any in the future is awesome. I love being able to freely switch out powers and specs!

Porculasalvania
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Porculasalvania

I think this is a smart move for them.  The net effect is that people will spend a lot of time just trying out different builds – and the overall experience will be one of curiosity and joy, as opposed to trying to be cautious, and potentially being frustrated if you regret your most recent build.  The more time people spend playing with their hero’s powers and fine tuning them, the more invested they’ll be in their hero.

To me this is similar to the “power room” phenomena that Champions Online used to have before they went F2P.  Back in the day my buddy and I would spend just as much if not more time in CO’s power room trying out different builds compared to actually being out in the world adventuring.  When CO went F2P and switched to fixed builds a lot of the flexibility, and frankly joy of putting together power builds was immediately cut off for arguably the playerbase that would have wanted to present that to the most – the F2P crowd, aka the vast majority of new players.

Wratts
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Wratts

Finally, I can drop my OCD habit of putting one point to every skill and letting item bonuses take care of the rest.  Not that recon potions were at all hard to get, but every time you use one it feels like admitting failure :)

officeape
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officeape

I don’t play Marvel Heroes, but this seems like a good thing for players, so GG, Gazillion.

Skyewauker
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Skyewauker

Esoteric Coyote This.  I literally have 100s of them.

Alien Legion
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Alien Legion

The amount they have improved this game from launch is admirable.  I do not play regularly, but it is my ‘go-to’ game when I have a spot of free time and can’t decide what to do.  They have just made it, and continue to make it, fun.  Drop in and kick butt fun.

Esoteric Coyote
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Esoteric Coyote

Oh that’s good, but I have like 12 of them and I’ve played for 6 days(got my 6 day award last night).  So it’s not like they were hard to get, but maybe they are later in game?
I love how they called them Retcons though XD

agemyth
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agemyth

Woo, one extra bank slot! But really, this is a great quality of life improvement for the game.

akwartz
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akwartz

Good on them

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