Massively OP Podcast: Episode 19

We’ve got MJ on the show to give us a super-special E3 after-action report! Also in this week’s episode: Heavensward’s launch, Guild Wars 2 expansion marketing errors, and SWTOR expansion details.

Join us on the podcast as we talk about what we’ve been playing in MMOs, the top news stories from the past week, and topics that listeners have submitted!

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ArbiterLibera
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ArbiterLibera

Esoteric Coyote Now take a deep breath.

Nordavind
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Nordavind

Ref MMO and moving your body: Play Ingress. http://www.ingress.com/

PS: Blue rule. Green suck!

TrippinNinja
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TrippinNinja

Zo5o   Reminds me of the Beastie Boy track:

q945
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q945

Great show!
Good to hear a new (old) voice on the podcast.

Bullwraith
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Bullwraith

It was great to hear MJ’s positive, upbeat attitude again. It’s got to be difficult to keep that juicy embargoed info locked away :)

Justin: I remember someone (actually two someones) being very concerned that 2015 was going to be a desert of anything worth reporting in the MMORPG genre back in December & January and I remember thinking “Seriously? How can you possibly expect a lot of blockbuster announcements this far in advance”. I am quite happy to see that 2015 is turning out to not be barren and that you all have worthwhile, gainful employment! :)

Zo5o
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Zo5o

Another great show guys, thanks for making a drab work-a-day hour fly past.

Seriously want to know the “embargoed” Wildstar and EQ2 news, damn you M.J. ;)

Justin’s turn of phrase cracks me up sometimes. He uses the occasional word you just never here in everyday conversation. Today’s belter was “brouhaha”…i don’t think i’ve ever seen it used outside of the sort of regional newspaper that has headlines such as “Local Council Expenses Brouhaha.” Epic! He’s going to use the word “rumpus” soon, i can feel it coming closer every ‘cast. :D

Esoteric Coyote
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Esoteric Coyote

DasBenty You should see the steam reviews, over 7000 and 70% negative.  So many people can’t even play the game on 400 dollar video cards.  It’s not good.  Good thing you get refunds now.

Esoteric Coyote
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Esoteric Coyote

Syppi Nreff Well the large size means plenty of room for updates… If Anet decides to add more to them.

Esoteric Coyote
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Esoteric Coyote

So Anet has a responded now, and the people who bought GW2 during the sale, if they don’t pre-order by the end of next month, they don’t get that refund.  So there is a time limit on at least one small part of the player base.  And part of me thinks that’s okay, because I definitely got 20 dollars a entertainment in the last 5 months or so.  More than my moneys worth.  I’m just worried that the expansion will not offer the same amount of entertainment.  If I’ve learned anything from Anet in the last 5 months, is that they churn out constant updates to the gem store that cost a lot more than 15 dollars a month if I wanted to partake.  Now I know what you’ll say, you don’t have to buy them, and I don’t.  But what about content for me? Where’s my stuff?  I’d like to give you money, but I’m not buying keys to get Black Lion Weapon, or 10 dollar armor set or  dollar mini.  With a 30% scrap drop rate in black lion chests  that would be at least 30 chests, and keys are 80 to 125 gems.  If you convert gems to gold at the current raid it’s 631 gems for 100g, and the current set, Gallant, is selling for 100 to 150g. So would you rather buy 30+ keys or spend 10 bucks and convert it to gold?  That a weapon skin’s AH cost is a 3rd or less than that of what it actually costs a player in keys.  Sure there’s key farming, but the fastest run is what 20 minutes?  Now do it 30 more times. BUT, that’s what you enjoy, that’s fine.  Next players just tell me to farm gold and buy gems with that, but that’s just really hollow way to play.  It’s like Diablo 3 and their damn auction house.  I spent most of my time trying to maximize my gold so I could buy the gear to progress because drop rates were so poor. 
Since I’ve started playing there have been at least 4 black lion weapon sets.  There’s been both the angel wing flash sales, and don’t get me started on flash sales!  Tons of minis and tons of armor sets.  But what has been added to the game?  Until yesterday nothing.  In 5 months of playing I haven’t seen a single large change.  And what did we get?  Access to traits, which should’ve been that way from the beginning.  The personal story “fix”, well they broke it to begin with.  And the revamped Lion’s Arch which is beautiful, and I love the little hunt they added, no spoilers please!  So am I happy?  Sure!  I’m glad they made the changes.  But that still doesn’t solve my issue of where do I buy content?  And how do I know HoT will offer even a 1/3rd of what the core game did?  I’m gonna bet on, it won’t.  And all that cool armor and weapons will always be for sale.
So when people say “Would you rather pay 15 dollars a month?” Yes.  Yes I would.  Because then I get content, not an update ever week or two to buy stuff in the store.  And if I don’t get content, I unsub and go somewhere else.  GW2 has a leg up just because I can play without paying.  But you don’t want a customer who doesn’t want to pay you any money.  Then again.  I’m most like minority.  I told my husband the other day “There’s so very little for a frugal gamer on a budget these days…” .

Cramit
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Cramit

I don’t see how E3 got huge on MMO’s this year.  I heard barely anything on MMO’s although I wasn’t watching with bated breath either.  I know swtor, FF and GW2 had announcements but that’s all I really heard about and none of those games do much of anything for me.  The shroud info was great to hear.  E3 seemed rather bland to me but again, I’m not all over it like some gamers are but it seemed a lot more aimed at console and single player games rather than true MMO’s.  In any case, interesting podcast, first time I listened, might go back in the archive and listen some more although not huge into the games this sight seems to hold in high regard.  I also agree with MJ when it comes to mobile, I don’t do mobile.

BalsBigBrother
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BalsBigBrother

Nreff Its not how big it is its what you do with it that counts, so I have been told many times /blush. hehe :p

That said the guild zones do look nice and its kind of hard to tell without actually having run through them but I do wonder if I will get a bit fed up with running from one end of it to another in order to carry out my various tasks.
Where as if everything was nice and compact it might be more convenient to navigate and get stuff done. As I said until I have visited one and seen them for myself its a little hard to judge at this point.

Syppi
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Syppi

Siphaed Syppi Nreff Bigger isn’t always worse, true. I am just not a fan of size for size’s sake, particularly when it’s being done (as it feels like with GW2’s guild halls) to be a bullet point feature. 

I’ve always liked smaller and more intimate (yet useful) guild housing, a place to bring people together. Tossing folks into a space the size of the grand canyon feels excessive, especially for the smaller guilds.

Bigger starts to collapse upon itself when its size outweighs the population and/or believability factor. Get that sword too big, and it’s just a silly parody. Throw in too many huge PvP zones with a small population, and you get Warhammer Online’s RvR excess. Raids that go on for hours and hours due to size and scope? Well, those have been soundly rejected by a majority of gamers these days.

What I was trying to convey on the podcast is that — to me — the “bigness” of a guild hall/zone isn’t an attraction. I’m always more interested in smaller spaces with more detail to them. I’ve always hated feeling lost in large spaces and populations.

Siphaed
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Siphaed

Syppi Nreff 
Except the new BIGGER Lions Arch is far BETTER than the old tiny, cramped one.   I’m not talking about the one that was post-Scarlet’s Michael Bay scene, either; the original Lions Arch. This new one is a bigger better more awesome thing.
   The new borderlands to be released with HoT: bigger.

And as for Guild halls:  Bigger = better.  This is especially true when you’re able to host an entire arena within and have guild fights/tournaments.  

In any MMO, it always seems that bigger is better.  Bigger end-game.  Bigger weapons (Why is my greatsword 2x larger than my character?!).  Bigger mounts… in games that actually have mounts.  Bigger shoulders.  Bigger zones.  Bigger cities.   The only exception may be bigger health pools for bosses that turns what would be a 15-20min fight into a 1-1.5hr fight.

DasBenty
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DasBenty

yay something to listen to tomorrow. Or tonight while I wait for the apparently gimped PC port of Arkham knight to download

Syppi
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Syppi

Nreff Bigger isn’t always better. Games have never sold me on “lookit how HUUUGE our zones are!”

Celestia
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Celestia

Another fun and info packed episode. I’m looking forward to hearing those currently embargoed tidbits.

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