Final Fantasy XIV boasts 5 million registered accounts

Let’s start this news item with an important caveat – we don’t know how many actual active subscribers Final Fantasy XIV has at the moment. What we do know is that the game has five million registered accounts globally, excluding free trial accounts. So while that could mean that the game has two people actually playing and a lot of inactive accounts, it probably means something else.

This announcement comes only two months after the game’s first expansion went live and shortly before the two-year anniversary of the relaunched title. The game also recently launched in South Korea to impressive numbers at the nation’s internet cafes.

Source: Square-Enix press release
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SoulMonarch
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No matter which way to slice it, this is an excellent status report.
5 million non-trial accounts means a full 5 million boxes sold. Even if they have a fairly low sub rate (say 500k), that is pretty good overall. From all the other information they release, they certainly seem to have a considerably higher rate, which is awesome.
Try not to think in World of Warcraft numbers. That was an anomaly. Even WoW no longer has WoW numbers.

collmomo
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collmomo

groo the wanderer  Nreff ………

Obzedat
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Obzedat

Regardless if its active accounts, or boxed copies sold, its still good news.  I just re-subbed a few days ago and my server; Behemoth, is bustling with players and activity.  Not bad for a 2 year old MMO not named World of Warcraft.

DontaleMobasa
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Brian Montfort DontaleMobasa DrowNoble DarkWombat shaw sbst Ten10K Not rude at all, no harm in asking. I can’t remember where exactly I saw the 750k subscribers but I have a couple of things that lend themselves to that. 
First, in 2014 they released official information (in some investor meeting or something) stating that FFXIV was at 500k subscribers. It is documented all over the place but here is an article that has the information: 
 http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/square-enix-mmo-trio-fails-to-muster-1m-subscribers/0143457

Second, this is not the article I got the 750k from but it paints a similar picture. It is a japanese article that gathered data from FFXIV’s official lodestone to determine active players. Now, there are probably some people who are subscribed that do not meet the criteria they use for “active” but it would be a minimal group. They say that there are 730k active players according to the FFXIV lodestone so you could expect the actual number of subscribers would indeed be around 750k. 

http://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/43689452.html

(note, its in japanese)

rottenrotny
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rottenrotny

I hate when they announce registered accounts. The game seems to be doing pretty good, why not just say what the subs are at?

Akami
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Akami

Personally, I would just refuse to report these numbers as a press site for gaming.  Until they give you actual numbers that matter, just don’t report anything they give you regarding numbers.  They are using you as PR for their game, if they want you to generate hype for their game for free, force them to give you concrete numbers.

Personal opinion…

Brian Montfort
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Brian Montfort

DontaleMobasa DrowNoble DarkWombat shaw sbst Ten10K
Dontale, not trying to be rude, just currious, where are you getting the 750k subs information? From what I have seen they haven’t said what their sub numbers are, and they only speak in registered user numbers, then people debate what it means, etc.

When ARR launched, Yoshi-P said that he setup the game to be successful running at 400k subs, so as long as they are more then that, they are good. However, with it’s success he did say that the retention rate it much higher then the industry standard. The standard being around 30-35%, and I believe he said it was around 50%. No idea if those numbers are still true, or if they were ever true.

Anyway, if you have a link to the article from 4 months ago, I’d love to read it as I missed it when it came out.

Thanks. :)

DontaleMobasa
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DontaleMobasa

zyrusticae DontaleMobasa DrowNoble DarkWombat shaw sbst Ten10K The wow number is registered accounts so trails wouldn’t count (you need to register a game code to be considered a registered account). Pretty sure its accurate considering at its peak it had 12 million active, its not too much of a stretch that over its entire life it sold that many copies.

CastagereShaikura
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CastagereShaikura

DarkWombat shaw sbst Ten10K These type of stories are nothing. Sure they SOLD 5 million copy’s good for them and that’s all it means.How many copies has Wow sold in its 10 years or more. They want to impress then just put the number out of people actually playing the game.

groo the wanderer
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groo the wanderer

Nreff Why do you have a picture of that black girl up there ? Doesn’t make much sense to me . Is it because she looks a like she has some sort of learning disability ? If that is the case its in very poor taste .

groo the wanderer
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groo the wanderer

SoMuchMass Bluetouchpaper McSleaz Bit stupid to make this conversation about Elder Scrolls Online when the topic is about FF14 and no one has mentioned TESO  .The standards and I.Q. of trolls are dropping it seems .

zyrusticae
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zyrusticae

DontaleMobasa DrowNoble DarkWombat shaw sbst Ten10K For the record, FFXIV registered accounts includes only box copies, whereas we don’t know whether or not WoW’s number includes free trials (but with a number like ‘100 million’, it’s a safe bet that they did).

Radfist
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SallyBowls1 Radfist  I don’t really care either, and I know this game is doing well enough to be enjoyed with other players.  But if you are going to release info, at least make it something worthwhile.  Otherwise you are better off saying nothing at all. 
5 million accounts created means nothing to us. It doesn’t tell us how profitable or active the game is.
If you are going to come out and brag, do it with stats that matter.

xania
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xania

I wonder how much the new friend referral rewards have impacted this. I know a few people who bought cheap copies of the game for that Twin mount.

I also find it hilarious people talk about how inflated the “registered accounts” number is. There are ways it can be undercounted too –  you can attach multiple subs to a single account (good way for families to keep track of subs.) That’s why the actual number is meaningless, imo, the important part is how fast the number goes up. And since it was 4M not too long ago, I’d say it’s fairly obvious there’s a huge amount of interest in the game. I think you’d have to be really thick to think an extra million accounts – whatever it means – doesn’t translate to increased subs as well.

DontaleMobasa
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DrowNoble DarkWombat shaw sbst Ten10K Oh and just for an easy comparison of apples to apples. FFXIV 5 million registered accounts, WoW hit the 100 million registered accounts in 2014. So its at less than 5% (less because wow number is from 2014) of what WoW has done. Also seeing as how WoW is at about what… 5 million subs currently? It is pretty easy to see that registered accounts is not remotely accurate in regards to active players. 

Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying the game is unsuccessful. I just hate this kind of miss-information and people touting it all over the place.

DontaleMobasa
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DontaleMobasa

DrowNoble DarkWombat shaw sbst Ten10K You cannot NOT get the game without the free month. The wombat is correct as the last official number for ACTIVE SUBSCRIPTIONS given was 750,000 about 4 months ago or so. It is extremely unlikely that they are much higher than 1 million subs and I would say that is a generous assumption of growth.

bakkahentai2600
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I always wondered how the MMO community would freak out if this “registered user” thing was a strange translation and they were talking about active subs…

Still, getting people to buy 5 million copies and pay for a sub a month after a free month (as you are not considered a subscriber until then and that’s what SE counts – the registered users who have paid for at least one sub) is quite impressive I think.

bakkahentai2600
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bakkahentai2600

Jack Pipsam  I wonder the same thing, Rainbow Dash.

bakkahentai2600
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bakkahentai2600

McSleaz yolosw3g  If that’s all your doing in the game, that’s your fault honestly. You are just doing the easiest/most efficient method.

bakkahentai2600
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bakkahentai2600

Chaz_Lawler  They don’t count XIV 1.0 accounts iirc.

DrowNoble
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DarkWombat shaw sbst Ten10K Unless you by the game with a free month included, you have to sub to be registered.

So, no, WoW is not “way” ahead by a long shot.  Not to mention FF14 is on an uptick, while WoW’s subs are still declining.  I expect WoW will get a spike come Legion, if history repeats they won’t hold that spike.

Skyewauker
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Skyewauker

We don’t know what they do though. They could take money paid divided out by 14 or 15 or whatever currency and use that as subs. We just don’t know how they calculate.

DarkWombat
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DarkWombat

shaw sbst Ten10K Learn to read. It’s fundamental. 5k registered accounts, not 5k ACTIVE accounts. Try again, WoW is way ahead. WAY ahead.

shaw sbst
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shaw sbst

Ten10K Lets say they are neck to neck.

Ten10K
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Ten10K

So does that make FFxiv the new King in town?
Or is WoW still ahead?

shaw sbst
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shaw sbst

Skyewauker ArbsX SularDehendri The thing here is that Blizzard has a mumbo-jumbo about their “sub” numbers. The proverbial problem is that half of its playerbase (asian players) do not pay for a subscription, and Blizzard conveniently keeps on treating these players as subscriptions. So we can say safely that Blizzard is giving BS numbers as well…all for PR purposes.

eLdritchMD
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Greaterdivinity A Dad Supreme the first official number they gave post beta was 1.5 mil registered accounts… so even if you completely exclude all of those that still leaves 3.5 million new ones that have to have bough the box to get into those statistics.

eLdritchMD
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SoMuchMass A Dad Supreme pfft. Guild Wars 2… even Everquest sold as many copies as Guild Wars 2 :P

and seeing how this FFXIV number doesn’t include f2p accounts…

But I’m sure you’re right and not just incredibly salty for some strange reason. ;)

shaw sbst
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McSleaz Its just as diddly squat as boasting 5 million subscriptions, when more than half of those “subs” come from chinesse players that do not pay for a sub.

eLdritchMD
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eLdritchMD

SoMuchMass A Dad Supreme Nate Woodard well that’s kind of a subjective statement though… to me, Killing Floor is a significantly better game than WoW :P

eLdritchMD
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eLdritchMD

SoMuchMass thatchefdude Bluetouchpaper McSleaz well I can say with certainty that the game has at least sold 3.5 million copies, because the first official post beta number was 1.5 million registered accounts.

But I do applaud your skepticism :P

DigitalQ
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DigitalQ

I just read every comment..now I’m just…confused and disoriented..it’s Friday and Yall are just a lil cray cray..it’s the only thing I can come up with ;)
and Mike Foster Get in here more often!

ManastuUtakata
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ManastuUtakata

Wtf?

thatchefdude
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thatchefdude

SoMuchMass Nate Woodard I’m pretty certain just after releasing a massive new expansion the game has over 1M subs right now, in fact this sorta makes sense, being about 1/5th of lifetime sales if the number of boxes sold is 5M

SoMuchMass
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SoMuchMass

thatchefdude SoMuchMass Bluetouchpaper McSleaz Can you provide the source as to it excluding beta accounts?

thatchefdude
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thatchefdude

SoMuchMass Bluetouchpaper McSleaz This figure discounts all trials and beta accounts, this is legitimate real accounts provided from retail game keys

ManastuUtakata
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ManastuUtakata

SallyBowls1 ManastuUtakata SoMuchMass 
This sounds like a perception issue then. I suppose then they don’t want to be judged by subscription numbers alone. Again, if I where an executive, I may not have an issue with this. But I can’t speak for every other executive on this. /shrug

ManastuUtakata
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Syco_at_Twitch ManastuUtakata SoMuchMass 
You almost saying that if it where a good thing. However, I suspect most business would like to view themselves to the public as honest. Whether they are is actually another matter. And whether others are comfortably apologist or cynical about it is entirely a different matter all together.

SoMuchMass
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SoMuchMass

Bluetouchpaper McSleaz So you think 5 million people bought ESO on PC, because 5 million people registered to play the game during beta?

SoMuchMass
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SoMuchMass

A Dad Supreme Nate Woodard I actually never said that.  What I said was they will launch subscription and then change models.  A game has to be significantly better than WoW to deserve a subscription and no MMO has done that.

Nate Woodard
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Nate Woodard

Like I said, /shrug Okay. I’m certainly not gonna argue or debate with anyone about it as I don’t know. I did say probably reaffirming my statement that it still pales in comparison to WoW. It doesn’t matter though. What does matter is people are having fun with it.

MikedotFoster
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McSleaz Moving past the part where you didn’t read the article, I’d say the following people care:
Investors
Square leadership
People who worked on the game
FFXIV players
Other games studios
People who read MMO blogs
People who took the time to type “who cares” on this post

Bluetouchpaper
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Bluetouchpaper

McSleaz  Your question about the free trial accounts is answered in the article “excluding free trial accounts” . So I imagine that means 5 million people have brought the game . That is pretty impressive however you look at it .

McSleaz
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McSleaz

yolosw3g I used to think it was deserving, now everything in this game is a booooooring grind. Hey, lets run the same dungeons25x/day.

McSleaz
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McSleaz

Who cares about “registered accounts”? How many of those are from the free trial on steam?over half probably. How many are inactive like mine? How many belong to the same people like my guildies?, some of them ran 2-4 seperate accounts.

Registered Accounts mean diddly squat!

breetoplay
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breetoplay

John Wise Got a link on the FFXIV 5mil all-time subs? I can see 4m regs earlier this year. Can’t find your stat.

breetoplay
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breetoplay

SallyBowls1 BrotherMaynard SoMuchMass Morningrise If anyone wanted to look:
http://us.battle.net//wow/en/blog/12346804

Does include trial accounts, fwiw.

ManastuUtakata
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ManastuUtakata

…in retrospect though, I think I am being overly optimistic here. :(

Greaterdivinity
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Greaterdivinity

deekay_zero Oh, I know, I was speaking purely as a consumer/MMO enthusiast. I was just taking my business hat off for a moment : )

Lhumierre
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Lhumierre

A Dad Supreme it’s why I wait for the fiscal reports, all companies toss em out and always give real hard numbers instead of PR Registered info.

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