Elite: Dangerous has sold 825,000 copies

The good news for Elite: Dangerous fans is that the latest financial report for Frontier Developments is available, and the game appears to have done fairly well for itself. Cash balances are up, profits are up, and revenue is up. The report also states unequivocally that 825,000 copies of the game have been sold, accounting for 84% of the company’s earnings between those sales and associated merchandise.

The bad news is… well, there isn’t any.

Statements within the financial report indicate that the studio is continuing to transition from work-for-hire development of titles to self-published games, with the second franchise for the studio currently in development along with the Elite: Dangerous expansion. It’s a rosy outlook for the year, and it certainly appears at a glance as if we can mark this particular story in the “success” category.

Source: Investegate via Reddit; thanks to Cotic for the tip!
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GoJammit
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GoJammit

Frankminer Damonvile Belcross What they are adding in the future does not have anything to do with how bland it is right now.

Frankminer
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Frankminer

Damonvile Belcross

Belcross, Damonvile isn’t wrong. It’s a game which you can nibble at in very very small mouthfuls. It’s even possible to avoid the difficult docking procedure of the 2001-esque wheel stations. There are gravity-free outposts littered throughout the Galaxy.

You will get better as you play. I got better when I played, and that’s saying something! As you get better, you can start digesting larger and larger chunks of challenge. Just bear in mind that the Elite Galaxy is full of challenges for all levels of players and you should watch out that you don’t bite off more than you can chew.

Where Damonvile is mistaken is in saying that Elite is bland. The developers are adding more and more flavours to the game just about every month, and at the end of the year they are bringing a whole new course to the table.

Defector1980
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Where does Lord of Bread fit into that.

Defector1980
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Defector1980

Are you one of the hosts of Lave Radio?

Kass40
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Good on them, though I really should make more effort to log in and play. Got it in the STEAM summer sale, Not been able to get into it as much as I hoped but really need to make more effort. It’s NOT a bad game by any means, far from it.

I really do hope the game continues to do well.

Kataq
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Kataq

PhoenixDfire LordOfBread Cotic_OP I wish you the best of luck with your request Phoenix, but the sad reality is that LoB has been trolling ED comment sections for many months. I suspect he’ll keep doing it till SC’s release. At least I hope that’s when he’ll finally stop.

PhoenixDfire
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PhoenixDfire

Rustybladez You’ve got the ED community so wrong. You are forgetting the fact that *MOST* E:D backers have also backed SC to some degree and they want *Both* to succeed. However, within every community there are those that are a little bit partisan than most but they don’t represent the Community as a whole. Please remember that before generalised every Elite player a ‘fanboi’

Every time someone has asked about Planetary landings it’s been mentioned as DLC. These days DLC is almost always paid for as an extra and that’s the assumption that most people have made. (Although I wish that Frontier  had put PAID expansion whenever anyone had talked about it, just to make it clearer).

Frontier did offer Refunds but they had go through a long winded process to evaluate if there was a genuine reason (i.e no internet or horrendous internet restrictions) and not one of those who said ‘Oh, I’ll get a refund of My Beta and just buy the game again much cheaper.’ (You can get a refund on steam without a problem) . Personally, I wish they had given everyone a refund who wanted one and then banned them from the game for a year to avoid that but it was their call.

Most ED streamers who have been doing this longest were alpha backers (A lot more expensive than your $80)  so they were never ‘gifted’ their copies to promote it.

The difference between SC and Elite is that you can play in the sandbox galaxy at the moment, whilst you can play arena, races and talk to other people round a space station in SC. Now, I’m under the impression (and I’ll probably be corrected if I’m wrong) that SC is aiming to get most of the modules to come together at the same time, while Elite: Dangerous is constantly adding to the core game, which they quite clear in their Kickstarter. 

As far as the expansion pricing is concerned, from what I understand, there will be a new expansion pack every year for the next few years and Frontier have a ten year plan. So if that would be at least £300 if you bought them individually or £120 for the lifetime expansion pack. You might consider it a yearly sub if you like. Personally, I would have liked to see a bit more of a discount for existing players without the LEP but based on how much play time people get out of it first version

LordOfBread
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Rustybladez Not entirely true, it was clear that planetary landings will be a paid expansion. But overall I agree.
The nickel/dime policy sucks. Asking money for basic features other games have at launch? Only Frontier gets away with that.

I just wonder how often they´ll charge for said planetary landings, because the so called planet coming in December will be an empty airless desert with a few POIs, which is basically a bigger asteroid which has already been in the game the entire year. WIth that, the planet landing box is ticked off. On to the next feature “season”.
(ಠ_ಠ)_%

Cotic_OP
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Cotic_OP

Rustybladez 
Which has what to do with the topic on hand?

Cotic_OP
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Cotic_OP

LordOfBread 
Are you stupid? I know there were complaints. I posted a fucking link
showing you there were complaints when you were denying there were
any…. and now you’re trying to say that you knew there were complaints
and I didn’t, WTF…

You were bitching and whining long, long
before Elite was released, always griping about them. Massively started
reporting on them from when the KS was a thing and your puling probably started the very same day “Ooh they’re copying this, ooh they’re copying that waah waah waah”

Yes,
your bloody M.O. every single time your conversations devolve into the
irrational ranting and raving looney we now see before us.
Flagged for trolling you twat

Rustybladez
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For a fan base which routinely lies to other potential buyers, the ED community is really quick to attack Star Citizen whenever a post regarding ED comes out.  I remember just a few months ago where every ED fanboi I talked to said, “oh planetary landings are coming out in a patch” when ED was compared to SC.  Now the same fanbois are saying, “but but but Frontier always said such **expansions** will cost money.””  Yeah but your lying butt didn’t.

The number on the front of SC’s page is the number of people who have paid money into Star Citizen – whether it be $5 or $50000. Also, the actual $$$ raised puts the average dollar per backer at around $90 or so.  The $90 or so puts the cost per person right now on par with the cost of “driving” not “walking” but “driving” around on the surface of a planet in ED which at retail will cost, what $100 ($60 for the full price of the game and $40 for the expansion?).  Right now in SC we can walk around a bit of a city, fly some solo or space combat, and walk around inside our ships.  By the time ED has “walking inside and around space ships” the expansion drop you are talking $140 to fly a space ship, drive around a planet, and walk around ones ship.

Right now, with nothing ever to buy again you can do that in SC for $45.  There is no requirements to spend another penny on the game.Alpha access to modules cost $5 not $80 (based on the price of paying for ED alpha access).

Also don’t forget Frontier offers zero refunds and has given away copies of ED to streamers to sell the game.

But.. if you really want something to compare it to, Assent:The Space Game has everything ED and SC promises now plus planet side land ownership, manufacturing, and the ability to have player built space bases.  All for $20.

LordOfBread
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Cotic_OP You´re obviously suffering from severe paranoia or you don´t read your own Elite forum coz there were thousands of user complaints about all the mentioned points, and refund requests for killing the offline game + telling backers about it two weeks before release. Who ever you think you´re blaming is likely your own alt you´re using for staging discussions of controversial issues, DS style.
2 1/2 years , are you nuts? That game isn´t even out for a year, paranoia boy. MODUS OPERAND………..LOL you´re sounding like a DS twink. He´s also a big Elite supporter, I´m starting to see a pattern.

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LordOfBread Cotic_OP Funnily Enough, that was because of the hype machine that surrounded SC. People weren’t expecting SC to take this long. Elite was kept under the radar and made small increments which reassured the community that work was proceeding. Backers were happy enough with that until the offline change was announced but after a while the vast majority (99% +) of backers were happy to proceed with the model they suggested.

Everyone knew that the Gamma release was going to be the one which would go live, and for an updated version of the original Elite, it was perfectly fine. In these days of MMOs being constantly updated, the difference between a Gamma and a Release seems very blurred. SWTOR has many more mechanics in it now than there was in the original release and it’s improved over time. The same has happened with Elite and the same will happen with SC when it’s released,

The 2.5 million on Marketing comparison is unfair and you know it. Elite has a product they want to push, Look at any other game release and you’ll see marketing budget soar when they have a product their confident enough to sell. The game has been released and you’ll probably see the same amount (if not greater) of marketing spend from CIS when they feel the time is right to roll out SC.

I’ll delve into SC when it’s got either Squadron 42 or you can do some trading but I’m quite Happy with the rate that Elite is progressing. 

However, It is pretty obvious that you seem willing to have a go at Elite no matter what they do. So I make a humble request @LordofBread. You’ve made your point that you Don’t like Either Elite: Dangerous or the way that Frontier do business. WE get that. Now can you just stay away from Elite and concentrate on helping the SC community (or having a well deserved go at Smart) instead of  running down a game that other people enjoy.

Cotic_OP
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LordOfBread 
No Ravenhurst, I’m not interested in playing your games.
You
don’t have valid complaints, this is just a really transparent
attempt at twisting things to have a bash Elite – all under the guise of
“defending” Star Citizen.
We’ve all seen your modus operandi for the last 2 1/2 years.

LordOfBread
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Cotic_OP You can call out SC for taking longer, no problem. Just admit the hilarious double standards of the press regarding both titles, never calling out Elite.
The way I see it:

The reason SC takes longer is that they hit stretch goals, many, many stretch goals.
The reason Elite took longer was? What?  A reduced feature set. Ho-hum.

Now that we know FD blew 2.5 million on marketing , while CIG doesn´t place ads on major outlets and isn´t in bed with a publisher doing consoleware, everything suddenly makes sense. Absolutely everything.

Cotic_OP
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LordOfBread 
I don’t get you.
You’re complaining about Star Citizen
being called out for dates that shouldn’t be taken as set in stone and
yet here you are calling out another game just for that. Do you not see
the problem here?
You complain about people saying Star Citizen is
taking too long and then you complain about another game releasing early
and not having all the features you expect. Do you not see the problem
here?
Your bias is staggering but remains unmatched by your ignorance.

LordOfBread
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Cotic_OP  they barely hit a single delivery date, that was “first round Alpha” which was nothing but a few scripted missions, without even having their galaxy generated, Dec 2013.
After that every other KS delivery date was missed, although severely cutting down on previously announced features:
First round private beta test: Estimated delivery:
Jan 2014 – MISSED BY 4 MONTHS

Second round private beta test: Estimated delivery:
Feb 2014 — MISSED BY 9 MONTHS (GAMMA)

Release: Estimated delivery March 2014 — MISSED BY 9 months, multiple cancelled features
(grats on releasing an “MMO” that touts the 1.1. as a cool update because it included GROUPING and CHAT. In an MMO. No kidding. That was an update.

“On 14 November 2014, one month before launch, David Braben announced the removal of the game’s offline single player mode”

Cotic_OP
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LordOfBread 
A simple google search shows mainly reactions to the removal of offline mode –

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=elite+dangerous+removes+offline+mode&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=2P3vVcimNYjaU96ylwg

They missed one Kickstarter date which was partly due to
implementing the supercruise mechanic along with everything else that
entailed. Besides a date given before development had officially started can hardly be taken as written in stone.

DDF
was never a release day thing, it was proposals for the game which
could mean 6 months after release, 2 years or even 5 years after release. It’s just ‘these are things we would like to see in the game at some point’.

LordOfBread
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rioinsignia That´s all they can do. Little Man Syndrome. Whenever someone points out another fail decision of Frontier, they go bash SC as defense.

Reminder: No one made a press witchhunt after Elite missed its Kickstarter date by ONE YEAR.

No one made a press witchhunt against Frontier after multiple severe bait and switch actions like cancelling the core offline game, missing all Kickstarter delivery dates, releasing with half of the promised DDF features missing whch are still no where to be seen. 

Guess that´s the benefit when you blow money on marketing like the big ones.

Cotic_OP
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Cotic_OP

bit2 
The onus is on you to prove it. Waving your hand and saying it’s all there is bullshit.

Cotic_OP
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bit2 
Meanwhile they have transferred from contractor to self-publisher, they have repaid in full their ACOA loan and are debt free. Profit went from -1.7m in 2014 to +1.6m in 2015, with all of that in mind that’s pretty damn good going. What really matters is steady sales and profit at the bottom line.

Cotic_OP
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bit2 
If it was a finished complete release then how come there will
have been 5 additional content patches prior to the initial expansion.
That doesn’t sound very finished or very complete to me…

Vikingr
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Wratts 
Maybe it was this article: http://kotaku.com/one-thousand-gamers-embark-to-explore-the-entire-galaxy-1677603818? The guy interviewed in there is an ex-NASA scientist (Astrophysics).

Darkdrakke
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Darkdrakke

Nice, just keep the new content coming and i will be happy.

Wratts
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Wratts

I didn’t save the one I was thinking of, but a quick Google of elite dangerous nasa found all kinds of crossover links. I’m sure the guys at nasa love this thing

schlag sweetleaf
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schlag sweetleaf

Well done Lord Braben…

Vikingr
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Vikingr

Wratts 
Do you have a link to that NASA thing? I’d love to read that! :)

Vikingr
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Vikingr

GoJammit seasontwo 
Plus, not everybody want to be on the leaderboards. I opted out as soon as it was possible to do so, and I think many others did too.

Vikingr
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Vikingr

rioinsignia 
Facebook? I’ve heard of that. Not going there.

krazy_wabbit
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bit2 Cotic_OP  Can you give us a link to those ‘publicly filed accounts’, pretty please.

bit2
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Cotic_OP bit2 You’re wrong. It is all in the 2014 and 21-05 accounts. Just read.

bit2
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seasontwo The big difference is that ED is being sold as a finished complete release and SC is not.

bit2
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Cotic_OP bit2 Adjusted profit is meaningless since it ignores significant expenditure and is quoted just to fool gullible investors. Read down and you’ll see the the real profit of £1.6m, which fails to cover the losses already incurred since the start of the ED project.

bit2
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CromulentWord bit2 “Average Pledge Per Backer: £61 ~ US$94” KS pledges covered a lot more than the game. Things from Design Decision Forum membership to the 3D ship models costing £900 that FD never delivered.

seasontwo
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rioinsignia Kataq rioinsigniaKataq So you have a “family” of people lying to yourselves and working in an agenda to “goodmouth” a game, no matter how many wrong things that the company behind the project makes, which actually, considering obvious realities of this market/industry (very different standards of the mindset of such tiny family), jeopardized the project and its future as a whole, for the sake of maximize earlier revenue (in other words, making easy money, short-sighted, ignoring the impacts for the future – considering how people/gamers in general, behave).
In other words, working totally disconnected with the reality of the business/market, and thinking, that magically, with all the mistakes done, that in minor number, lead many companies or projects to die soon, not long after a release (or even cancelled before), magically will work here, because “its Christ Roberts”. We should support him, no matter how many bullshit he does, or because we are limited and can’t risk to “badmouth” him (in your point of view) to do not make him sad with us – the man with 80 million dollars in his pockets.
lol
What a dumb family you decided to create here! 
A family of “religious fanatics” looking for salvation, when what saves anyone or anything is reason, logic, reality, and been preventive instead reactive.
“Wait and see” is what dumb people makes. The smart ones, try to alert the public and the devs to avoid or minimize a disaster.

Then you go to the top of the comment section and make a sensationalist propaganda about divergent opinions of yours. You are a shame actually. To the purpose of the success of this project, you actually are the kind that helped to lead the company to follow the path to the obvious disaster. In practice, nobody is more troll of Star Citizen, than die-hard fans and highly invested (financially) people like you.

By the path that this team decided to follow, when (a BIG IF) Star Citizen “releases”, its going to be a disaster that your tiny “family” is not going to be enough to hold it. So, congratulations for your achievement, but proud, egos, bullshit talking about “badmouth” or “family” and blindly following mindsets and speech disconnected with the reality of this business and the own capacity of this development team, do not save companies in this difficult and competitive industry.

rioinsignia
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Kataq 100% agree.  We’re all one big space sim loving family….or at least we should be.

Kataq
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rioinsignia I guess when Star Citizen releases, and we are all enjoying playing both games, eventually we’ll all come together again as space genre fans.

I mean ffs, it’s been a decade, we should all be celebrating this success for both FD and CIG.

Kataq
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Kataq

Damonvile Belcross That’s all you choose to do when you played ED? They should probably expand the help system in the game for those that need to be lead by the nose.

Wratts
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deekay_zero Just a quick follow-up.  Had a chance to read the report posted on another source and it clarified that the 825k units were ED sales
http://www.investegate.co.uk/frontier-dev-plc/rns/final-results/201509080700233406Y/

Damonvile
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Belcross You can practice the game by walking back and forth from point A to B over and over in your house. Pretend you’re in a spaceship and you’re pretty much playing ED.

Cujo H
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Cujo H

seasontwo I really look forward to the game you’re making. : )

rioinsignia
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rioinsignia

Such a shame that an article which has been created to inform people of Frontier Devs success with Elite Dangerous has yet again been used by the “usual suspect” trolls as a propaganda tool to talk about a different game. Very sad indeed.

Estranged
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Estranged

After reading the comments below…

If we are going there, this game is playable and “complete”.  Turning a profit and is enjoyable to play.  

The only perceived promise that was broken was an off-line mode that was sorta forced upon the staff by the backers.

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seasontwo Cotic_OP Im the same as you love the idea of Star Cizten, but not paying £100 for ships, Elite dangerous i’ve paid £50 because it’s Elite played the game loved it, Elite Horzion came i’ve paid the £50 for that becuase Frontier delivered on Elite Dangerous, as for SC i’ll have to wait 2 more years for that, but 1 thing for sure im not putting anymore money into it until it delivers the first part of a workable game with ships that dont cost £100 to £300, Star Trek online has a loyal fan base but even they wouldnt pay some of the prices SC asking for

Estranged
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Estranged

Armsbend They hit this out of the park.  This is a niche genre.

Estranged
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Estranged

Armsbend Lethality it isn’t about numbers as Armsbend said, it is about profit.

Estranged
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Estranged

Congrats! Great news.

Bannex19
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One thing you linked me was from 2013 the other was last year. I guess I’d like more current evidence. I’m not sure what you’re talking about in reference to the ceo.
If these are true it certainly seems almost as dubious as ffxiv touting registered users.

GoJammit
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seasontwo bit2 sidenymag3 A bigger shame that more people are not willing to play an unfinished game when there are plenty of fully functioning games out there? What a dope. Plenty of people don’t want to spend their time getting nothing done in a buggy developing game. There are also plenty of people not willing to bother with open beta when they know it is going to be wiped. Telling me that someone doesn’t want to pplay the same limited content isn’t big news. It’s news that there are any at all. Good job on that fail, buddy.

seasontwo
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Cotic_OP seasontwo I have no problem with the Star Citizen ideas. I have a problem with their false advertising attitude and their business decisions that won’t make that game to survive in the medium/long term in my opinion, which is sad, since I was hoping to have more story-driven Space Sims and they won’t be able to make, to go further, after the 1st SQ42 release in my opinion.
Star Citizen is a good idea (obviously) but with the wrong leadership and the worst marketing professionals (short-sighted) ever (maybe not all them, but who leads them). The company was basically founded under false ad premises and unfair business practices. A starter company working in a niche with such behavior and pushing that even more? Do not survive in the medium/long term for sure.

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