Star Citizen alpha 2.0 goes into testing

Star Citizen fans have had a long wait for the game’s big Alpha 2.0 update — but that wait is just about over.

CIG announced over the weekend that 2.0 is finally on the test server, where select players are stress testing the patch for its future release. The studio is increasing the testing pool size by 15,000 which was sent out in two waves of invites. Currently bug fixing and polish is the studio’s primary concern for this update.

“This release really is a landmark in Star Citizen and video games history as we’re now pioneering technology that’s never been undertaken to this scale before,” CIG said, “and it’s all thanks to the belief in the backers who helped fund the team to make the dream a reality.”

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GoJammit
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Geoff Dassad GoJammit Had my shot. Turned it down.

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GoJammit  Ask for a ménage à trios.  For some reason the dev’s decided your chances of a positive outcome from that question (however it’s formed) are higher than a lot of other more common tasks.

GoJammit
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Ok. I’ll bite

Geoff Dassad
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Vikingr Pro : Sex scenes can be awesome,

Now don’t get me wrong, some of the sex scenes are great, some are great but then there are some that are absolutely the best thing every. Seriously, for anyone reading this and who is playing “Outside”  There is one thing I suggest you do. SERIOUSLY. One thing

That 1 thing is :

(Are you ready for this?)

(Seriously?    –    ARE YOU READY ?)
Seriously, will only say what it is if I get a reply.
Supercereal.

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The 2.0d patch seems to be adding a bit of stability.  Although it
looks like it’s not ready for “Live” launch.  Which is fine by me.
As
for anyone who “thinks” that 3 years in development is an indication of
something going wrong, then I can only assume those people are
newcomers to this site and, by association, the MMO industry as a
whole.  3 years is nothing.  Heck if an MMO took only 3 years in
development, I’d be really concerned about the level of depth and polish
that it got.
So, SC Alpha 2.0 is in the place where it belongs
right now.  On the PTU server, being actively tested by a small(ish)
group of testers and CIG (when they aren’t enjoying the holidays).
Yes, it crashes.  Yes, it glitches. Yes, this should be expected.

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TheChiefTurtle theeknighthood To be fair, sometimes bethesda’s level of polish does make me question their development time/priorities (joke btw, not actually serious… Their writing department needs to be outsourced though, god fallout 4 is poorly written despite being fun)

Geoff Dassad
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Vikingr Darkwalker75 Yeah, +200 years ago they may have put it down to a Kraken or something, the shape of the hulls being a factor was brought up as a factor some years ago as there was a Russian fishing ship that had a hull that was offensive to big ass squid. There were several occasions it was attacked by giant (possibly bigger as since then they’ve confirmed that the giant squid isn’t the biggest) squid, the reason the boat was fine is because the squid couldn’t get a grip on the steel hull and they were pulled into the props.
Was also witnessed by other ships in the area, so take that event occurring 200yrs ago, tentacles wrapping around a ship, lots of purchase on riggings / hatches, add a bit of superstition.

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Vikingr Geoff Dassad I don’t know,

– flying in space
– aliens
Are more Easter eggs / Bonus material, they’re just really hard to find, more so than extremely rare items.

– Killing people
– Pirating or other crimes
Doable, but it really hits your karma levels and is generally looked upon with disgust by other players, also not advised as the repercussions are ridiculous and way, way more serious and the police don’t give up so easily like they do in other games, eg GTA
– trading
Done on a small level by everyone, but yeah, large scale trading has quite a high entry point

Vikingr
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Darkwalker75 
I wasn’t thinking specifically of the Kraken when I wrote it. There are many stories about giant squids from seamen in the sailship era. Often stories and myths have some root in reality.

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Vikingr GoJammit 
You mean the Kraken?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraken

Think that was a little more than 200 years ago.

Vikingr
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GoJammit 
That too. We need strong shields before going down there, you and me. But those special pods that has gone deep seems to discover new species every time so there have to be more. Maybe those giant squids they talked about 200 years ago, who could crush a ship to firewood?

GoJammit
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Im talking ceeatures and crevaces. We still have really seen all the stuff in the place that are too deep.

Vikingr
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GoJammit 
Ocean? Yeah, that’s true I guess. Lots of sunken ships full of gold and gems! :)

GoJammit
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There are those who would say we still have plenty if oceal left to explore.

Vikingr
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Geoff Dassad 
And:
– No flying in space
– No killing other people
– No guns (at least not much)
– No pirating or other crimes
– No aliens
– No trading (that’s only for truck companies)
– No real exploring (everything is already explored)

Vikingr
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Thornz 
I think we may see it released in a week’s time, at the earliest. But who knows? :)

GoJammit
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Darkwalker75 Thornz Especially since the thing is still crashing plenty.

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ApathyCurve  Outside? Have you ever played that?
Pros : Great graphics
Cons : Story can drag for extended periods, is generally slow paced anyway
      : Crafting is a nightmare to master
        : Leveling is incredibly slow
        : Earning money is very difficult to a point and if you get to that point it becomes something that just seems to happen regardless
       : Save points are non-existant
        : Even with medkits health-regen is done over time

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Darkwalker75 Thornz One of the occasions I don’t like agreeing with someone. Not expecting a official release until the PTU’s been open to all for at least a few days.

GoJammit
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Are mechanical keyboards that big a deal? Maybe that’s why I keep buying new ones every couple of years.

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Thornz 
I think you are far too optimistic here.
If they were to release 2.0 before Thursday, they would have to do so tomorrow at the latest.
It barely a week, not even that I think, since they released it to the PTU for testing, I highly doubt that a week or less is enough to work out all the bugs and get it ready for a live release.
What you can hope for though is an invite to the PTU, but a live release is too early I think.

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Hope 2.0 is out before thursday, but it may not due to complex issues and more fixes and polish needed before we can get it and test it out.
The wait will be well worth it to me. Seeing a lot of new players taking more and more of a hard look at SC.

Reading through the comments, seeing return of trolls and stealth trolls.
Feel free to FLAG these trolls and stealthers to make the comment section better.

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Gibs Darkwalker75 Damonvile 
If y are looking for a job, CIG are hiring people with the appropriate skills, check their details for more information.
I you are looking to get paid just to talk about/advertise the game, then you are out of luck, they don’t pay anyone to do that alone(at least not some random person on the internet).
You are assuming far too much if you think that because I’m correcting a misconception/misunderstanding, I’m somehow paid to shut up any kind of criticism.

What you all deadline was never a deadline is was always an estimate, calling it a deadline and assuming someone is paid for correcting that misconception, does not change that fact or the fact that they are not just completely different, but mutually exclusive.
You should not go around criticizing others if you cannot handle a little criticism yourself.

And as GoJammit says, its the nature of software development to miss estimates during development.

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If you’d been following the development you’d know why they fell so far behind. The game that was initially proposed got a healthy shot in the ass and it requires more time. Some of their original plans with the software didn’t work out as well. And shit happens.

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Darkwalker75 Gibs Damonvile

CIG dudes, you there? I’m also available for you know what… for a modest sum of money, of course. Message me.

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ohforfs 
Nobody said Alpha 2.1. It’s typically patched in Alpha 2.01 in the PTU. The PTU is for stress testing before releasing it to all the backers, because they expect crashes and other serious bugs. This is a normal way of testing and fixing bugs in software development.

You don’t know much about alpha testing, even if you say you do a lot of alpha and beta testing. And with your own record of 25 years of gaming it’s astonishing you know so little about what you’re talking about.

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Karl_Hungus 
“Basically all the SC fanboys jumped out of the woodwork […]”

You can’t write anything without attacking others, can you? Why is that? Either you have a very thin vocabulary or you never got any decent upbringing. Maybe both.

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I’ve done nothing of the kind. Another lie. The back and forth was never about me. It was also never about judging the game on its progress. Judge away. It’s a jittery crashing mess that is finally showing what it will be like to be in the PU. This back and forth has been about this lie that anyone with a negative opinion gets throttle. Man stay said there was no rp or 3rd person. She was corrected and everyone was happy. The only thing getting derailed here is your ability to argue your own point apparently. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. So yeah, moving on is probably best for you.

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Gibs 
Well, IMO then it’s not vaporware. You have to find another term to descibe something that was seriously under development but failed in the end, because else vaporware will lose it’s meaning in the missed nuances. A better word for an alpha that was never released is perhaps “Failware” or “Neverware”.
But it’s not my responsibility to find alternative definistions, I just don’t think a failed release is the same as Vaporware – mainly because Vaporware seldom show any results of development at all. Development is kept in-house and secret so the public don’t know if they’re working on it or not.
Star Citizen doesn’t fit that category at all, since we not only can see it’s developed but also can play early versions.

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Karl_Hungus 
The problem with your attitude is not what you describe as “criticism” but that you label other people as “fanbois”, “dicks” and whatnot. If you can’t form a sentence or whole post without using derogatory words or attacking people then you should avoid posting at all.

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Bluetouchpaper 
If you don’t want to be labeled a troll then you should avoid using words like vaporware and development hell. These are usually used deliberatly by trolls to ignite a flame war.

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Bluetouchpaper 
Not intentionally. It’s a WWI pilot: http://tinyurl.com/q6nwvx3
I chose this avatar 3 years ago when I first pledged in Star Citizen, because I admire the gentleman code these pilots/officers had. I think it was lost somewhere in time after the first world war.

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Bluetouchpaper Hanthos 
I keep seeing people saying that is SC fails it will kill kickstarter/crowd funding and so on.
However this always seems to come from the skeptics, critics or trolls/haters as a means of trying to justify their standpoint or validate any concerns r misgivings(usually unfounded) they might have about the game and the ability for the devs to actually to this, seemingly just because they just don’t believe that its possible to do or do on the scale that SC is doing, usually on the grounds that its never been done before.

But I just dont believe that, people here seem to ignore or forget that kickstarter is not just about games, there are countless other projects in other categories such as art, music, film/video, etc, and one high profile project failing is not going to take down crowd kickstarter/crowd funding.
It might have a short term negative effect on these things, and people might be wary of supporting endeavors on this scope and scale again, but to outright kill kickstarter/crowd funding I think is about as likely as our planet spontaneously exploding without reason.

While there are many that have pledged for SC and it being very high profile within its category, there are allot more that probably never even heard about SC that would not be affected at all, but give money to projects they are interested in.
And even many of the people who pledged for SC, myself include, would continue to support other games even in the extremely unlikely case that SC were to fail.

In short, I think you are severely overestimating the impact that a highly unlikely failure of SC would have on kickstarer/crowd funded projects in the future.
Just because its a high profile project does not mean its going to have the profound impact on crowd funding that you seem to think.

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GoJammit I found Elite too hard in the flying department, so I might indeed give SC alpha a go. I do a LOT of alpha’s and beta’s so I am used to early development. I might indeed give it a whirl and see what happens.

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GoJammit Karl_Hungus Iridium ohforfs SirMysk Needs (More) Coffee, Probably 
I’m such a great and terrible liar. I’m so glad SC has stalwart defenders like you, fighting the good fight against the insurgent troll extremists who seek to undermine the very heart of the game. Tell us more about how we are wrong to judge the game on its progress so far and instead should ascribe to unfounded and lofty ideals because a hype train of this magnitude could never be derailed. Your back and forth in this thread has only proved my original point. Thanks. I’m moving on.

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Karl_Hungus GoJammit Iridium ohforfs SirMysk Needs (More) Coffee, Probably It’s not that I’m missing your point. I just don’t buy it. And you’ve wasted all that time expanding on a lie that I’ve already dismissed. 
I know the majority of its fans have reached unprecedented levels of Fanboyism.

Just stop, you don’t know the majority of fans. You’ve never heard a majority of the fans. There’s a difference between LordofBread and Darkwalker, just as there’s a difference between Dark walker ad the real majority of fans who just sit back and wait. You’re not tapped into some big truth. And what little you know you lie about.
Most people are not aggressively defensive. You have a problem with the ones who are, call them out. The number is small enough. You clearly don’t even know who you are labeling a fanboy or not. You don’t even seem to know what qualifies.
And no, I will not let the progress stand for itself. If I did that Manzes would still be in here running his mouth. People are not honest. People are mistaken. All anyone does is correct them. But after dealing with thesame dopes over and over again, it’s not always going to be a friendly message. Bt I’ve always given the benefit of the doubt. The harshest thing I here from people is go do some research. Sometimes they even provide links.

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GoJammit Karl_Hungus Iridium ohforfs SirMysk Needs (More) Coffee, Probably 
You keep missing my point. My original post in this article was about how some fans of this game, which is still in development, are jumping down the throats of -anyone- who has anything even remotely negative to say about the game. Such rabid and zealous fanboyism does the game no favors. If you don’t consider yourself part of that crowd, then stop defending them.

I’m not personally invested in this game at all. I have no positive or negative things to say about it. But because I’m a long-time frequenter of Massively, I click on every article, read it, and scroll through the comments, and there is a reoccurring trend with Star Citizen articles. The bandwagon hype machine fanboy brigade comes down on anyone who dissents in any way, whether they’re actually trolling or not, which again does the game no favors.

I totally get that there is genuine enthusiasm around this unreleased game’s potential, but just remember that all those people that had this same level of enthusiasm for SWTOR whilst in development and have now become its most jaded, bitter haters because the game failed to live up to the hype that the community was partly responsible for. And many of the people that are being called trolls now are going to rub it in your faces with the “I told ya so!” bit. 
For you to say that the SC community isn’t any worse than another game’s community is a logical fallacy. LOTRO is only alive and active because of its amazing community that has persevered despite Turbine’s incompetence. SC has been in development for what, three years now? Go back and check out every Massively article for LOTRO in the past three years. You will find a plethora of comments regarding the overwhelming positive experience regarding the community. 
All I’ve seen from the Star Citizen community so far is a level of d-baggery that makes the majority of the game’s fan base look like the Jersey Shore of gamers. Too many of you are trying to turn every SC article on this site into a private wank fest and if anyone isn’t on board, you call them a troll and chase them away. You don’t see this with other crowdfunded games like Camelot Unchained, where the head guy behind the game goes out of his way to constructively respond to criticisms in the comments section. 
Maybe instead of being so aggressively defensive, you should let the game’s progress speak for itself. Majority of the people you deem to be trolls doubt the game will make it out of development so why not prove them wrong by waiting for the game to release? Thump your chests, but not now. It’s too soon for that.

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Karl_Hungus GoJammit Iridium ohforfs SirMysk Needs (More) Coffee, Probably Call it however you want. Why not just come here and discuss the game instead of taking shots at people. No one gives a shit what your opinion of other people liking the game is. You pretending the community for thisgame is any better or worse than the next game is silly because someone like you says the same thing in every single community for every single game. None of you has a way to prove it one way or the other but that doesn’tstop you from saying it.

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GoJammit Karl_Hungus Iridium ohforfs SirMysk Needs (More) Coffee, Probably 
Yes, I’ve totally been crying that the zealot fanboys decided to “defend” themselves by attacking me because I attacked them for attacking other people. Your epic defense has brought me to tears good sirs. Please call off your Star Citizen Inquisition! I clearly didn’t expect it!

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Bluetouchpaper GoJammit maxrelax Who says they do? And don’t come with the Escapist, they didn’t prove anything.

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Bluetouchpaper Hanthos I can honestly tell you that there is no doubt in my mind tht this game will not complete. Will it complete in the grand form that was originally pledged? most likely. @.0 has already shown most of that is possible. Will it meet all of these stretchgoals, not as likely. There is a decent chance that at some point someone is going to have to come to Chris and say we just cant do this either because of it being to difficult or it just being beyond their ability to make it happen in game.

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Bluetouchpaper GoJammit maxrelax The fact that it is a crowd funded game does not put some imaginary timeline on the games’s creation. The fact that it was built from pledges instead of an investor does not change the realities of software development. Two totally separate entities.

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Vikingr Bluetouchpaper Is that a time bandit in your picture :)

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Bluetouchpaper Smiggins Which is why that definition doesn’t work. 
In the computer industry, vaporware is a product, typically computer hardware or software, that is announced to the general public but is never actually manufactured nor officially cancelled.

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GoJammit Bluetouchpaper maxrelax It matters if they need extra funding to complete it

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JohnT_NC Bluetouchpaper Hanthos Lets hope it does well with the single player campaign because it sounds like that will be the deciding factor for the mmo .

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Hanthos Bluetouchpaper I agree with you about the game industry standpoint and I actually think kickstarter campaigns are a great way to get some creativity back but the problem I see with them is what happens if a game that is supposedly too big to fail never gets released . I know this is a complex game but is it  too complex to ever make it too release . I love the fact these guys are dreaming big but you also when you dream to have to be grounded in reality if  you want those dreams to become real . Put it this way is Star Citizen fails it will take down other kickstarter mmos and it may kill kickstarter projects altogether . To me kickstarter is both a great idea and an accident waiting to happen and I think Star Citizens fate may be closely interwoven with kickstarters . 

Come on you have invested money you cant tell me unless you have money to burn that none of this has ever crossed your mind ?

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Smiggins Bluetouchpaper definition of vaporware according to google “software or hardware that has been advertised but is not yet available to buy, either because it is only a concept or because it is still being written or designed”

Correct me if I am wrong but is this not software that is still being written or designed ? I guess it could be applied to all games prior to release though if you think about it

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Bluetouchpaper  How does one play vaporware?

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