Massively OP Podcast Episode 41: Trove talk

How do you add PvP to an MMO after its launched as a strictly PvE game? That’s the fascinating question we have for Trove’s lead developer today on the podcast! Also on tap for discussion: the new SWTOR subscriber rewards, TSW’s Issue 13, LOTRO’s insta-95s, and more!

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dionm01
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dionm01

Oh by the way, great show is always.  Enjoyed listening to you guys, as im stuck in L.A. traffic on my way home.  And Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you both if you celebrated as such.

dionm01
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dionm01

TOPIC SWTOR news segment
I will agree with Justin on this one, I think it is a form of bait and switch.  As of this post my account is going back offline and I will be devalued back two A preferred member.  For me, my whole drama is that Bioware/EA needs to show more love to the preferred members.  We have given you guys money and for the most part we are buy to play players.  All I ask, is for them to increase the money cap to 5 million credits and I would be a happy camper.  That way I can buy the most expensive thing that cost me for my legacy.  It would actually for me make the game my number one game instead of its current form the way it is.  Or, they need to introduce away for preferred members and subs get subscription tokens soul buy to play players like me and a lot of you I could imagine, could play the game at a subscription capacity.  Why should they care where the $15.00 a month comes from, as long as there getting it.  And if I have to earn it through grinding for two weeks set of a given month to be able to afford to pay for it, ” I’m cool with that”, and you keep me in the game and my buy something from the store instead.  You would get the subscription money and you would get my money from buying things on the store.  Just the thought, and I’m sure they can work out the cartel credits issue accordingly.
One man’s opinion on the issue

Dion markgraf
AKA: Dionsol

imayb1
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imayb1

Cultural note: Japanese and Koreans treat Christmas more like we typically treat Valentines’ Day– a romantic night out for couples. They are very keen to finish up all major projects to start the new year fresh, though. New Year is the big-deal holiday for them.  In Japan, it runs from Dec 31-Jan 4, shutting everything down at that time. Everyone returns ‘home’ and Tokyo sort-of empties. In Korea, they follow a lunar calendar and while sometimes it coincides with western new year, their start to 2016 falls in early February this year. So… yeah, Koreans aren’t sweating the Christmas holiday schedules. :)

Enikuo
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Enikuo

Syppi Enikuo Oh! Okay, thanks. I didn’t re-listen to the entire Trove interview. My bad.

BalsBigBrother
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BalsBigBrother

With regard to the Lotro insta level up I would agree with the point Bree made briefly.  Being able to see the content at the end can be a big incentive to push through some not so great parts (which any mmo will have) with lower level characters.
Using insta level up in swtor that came with KotFE  allowed me to see the content that came with that expansion but also gave me the incentive to level up some of my other characters had been languishing in the mid to low on various planets.  Since then I have taken two other character to max which probably isn’t much to many who did the 12 xp thing and capped everyone but for me amounts to a lot of mmo playing.  I would never have done any of that if I never had the chance to see the end part and seeing the fun to be had there.

As far as Devillion goes I found it to be ok for an arpg but not really anything special.   I didn’t see anything that really made me excited enough to want an early acces pack or think I will spend any money on it.  I am sure that because its a an arpg I will put some time into it at some point but only if I am out of other options (and there are a lot of arpg options out right now so it may be a while.)

Syppi
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Syppi

Enikuo Trion didn’t want us to reveal the new Trove class until Tuesday, so I took out a minute of the podcast for the early edition that dealt with that.

Enikuo
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Enikuo

So, what was under embargo? Because, it seems to be the exact same recording. Was that just a joke and I missed it?

I think you’re partly right that the lack of enthusiasm for Devilian is related to the bad feelings around ArcheAge. I didn’t even play ArcheAge and I’m wary of another imported game from Trion. I feel like they earned that wariness. But, I’m also less enthused for Devilian because I already have Marvel Heroes, Diablo 3, Torchlight 2, and Titan Quest. Plus, I just learned that PoE lets you dual-wield vanity pets and have a corpse condo. I mean, come on! That’s cool. 

I completely lost interest in Blade & Soul when I learned that their wardrobe feature is behind a subscription. The costuming was the main draw for me and with that being locked behind a sub, it would feel like a “begrudging free to play” set up that Justin was talking about. And, I’m kinda at that point where I have enough games that I feel great about that I don’t need to make it work for something new. 

I actually purchased a few unlocks in SWTOR before I realized that their “premium” level really was just a glorified and monetized trial. People weren’t kidding. I had heard it wasn’t worth playing without a sub, but I thought they were just saying that because of the passes for stuff like raids and PvP. Nope! They meant stuff like not being allowed to equip quest rewards. I should have listened to the haters – they were right. All I have to show for my time in SWTOR is a pink droid and some rocket boots.

I love the enthusiasm of the Trove developers. Andrew always sounds like he huffed an entire box of pixy sticks or something – so much energy! (That’s not a criticism, just an observation.) I really hope they can pull off getting the servers moved and stabilized by the end of the year, like they’re hoping. I know it’s frustrating just in general, but I feel like it’s probably soaking up a lot of development time dealing with the servers all the time. 

Great podcast, as always. Good luck to Justin with his microphone next week! You’ll get there. You just have to keep trying.

Omedon
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Omedon

“If I don’t have my teddy from day one, I just don’t feel like the kind of woman I should be.”
-Justin Olivetti
This needs to be in the massively overheard rotation.

Zulika_Mi_Nam
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Zulika_Mi_Nam

Syppi agemyth I was wondering what was up with your sound the last few episodes.  
I think you should not feel at all bad by blaming anything on the excitement and confusion, due to lack of sleep, of having a newborn.  All 4 of your little monsters will be blaming you for how they were raised for the bulk of their lives later on anyway so blame them while you can!

asdthefish
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asdthefish

Thanks for reading my email guys. You are the best!

Esoteric Coyote
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Esoteric Coyote

Yangers Trying out my mesmer, I am bad… but determined to learn how to play it better.

Yangers
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Yangers

Yeah, it’s a bit of a disaster. Luckily, although I enjoy gw2 PvP, I’m quite bad at it so when I lose now I can at least claim I was intentionally losing lol.

Gylnne
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Gylnne

paragonlostinspace “Nine minutes in. Justin sounds like he’s in a tunnel, sort of
muffled/muddy sounding. I can understand him, but he does sound muddy
and muffled.”
I heard this to Paragon, mic problem?

Esoteric Coyote
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Esoteric Coyote

Oh man you’ve missed all the drama on the forums and reddit about GW2 seasons.  The lack of balance, the MMR fixing, the tanking for faster tier ranking, etc.  In fact some of the best sPVP players have come forward to say sPVP is in the worst state it’s ever been in, because bunker condi is easy to play easy to master and boring to watch.
Two head turtle mount is love.  And I’ve said that about games, action combat gets… almost stressful after a while and then you just need to cool down and play a button masher like WoW.  But at this point I need some mix between the two.  Wildstar has some good aspects like push and hold a button for continued casting instead of “press this every 1 to 3 seconds”.  That’s nice.

agemyth
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agemyth

Gosh. Trove really is the under appreciated game this year. Players can build their own PVP arenas now too? This might be a trojan horse Landmark killer for me :X Unless Daybreak changes course for the better, but lets not get into that issue. Also, chloromancer was my favorite thing to play as in my limited time with Rift. Cool for Trove and Trion. I hope Devilian hits for me.

paragonlostinspace
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paragonlostinspace

Syppi agemyth All good fun though Justin. You are understandable so that’s good. We’ve all had those moments where tech just got us. heh.

agemyth
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agemyth

Syppi agemyth Poor Mic. It’s not your fault Justin didn’t RTFM :P
Bam! Just hit the interview part and you sound clear as a crisp spring morning.

Syppi
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Syppi

agemyth Yes, I am a massive doofus. I will have to mark this mic because it’s tricksy. You can actually hear me record the right way during the interview, so it’s not the mic’s fault.

paragonlostinspace
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paragonlostinspace

breetoplay agemyth LOL!  Too funny. Silly Justin! :)

breetoplay
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breetoplay

agemyth After we finished recording, Justin realized he was actually recording upside down. AGAIN. Hehe.

paragonlostinspace
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paragonlostinspace

Nine minutes in. Justin sounds like he’s in a tunnel, sort of muffled/muddy sounding. I can understand him, but he does sound muddy and muffled. 

On the Trove thing, I don’t like the graphics Bree, that’s a biggie for me. I did vote Trove the most under rated mmorpg and no I’ve not forgiven Trion for the whole AA thing. Sorry that you can’t understand that. I don’t recommend people avoid it, I just know that I am not willing to give them money at this time. 

Back to listening to the Podcast. I’ve been waiting since last night to listen, I decided I didn’t want to listen to the edited/redacted one from last night. :)

agemyth
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agemyth

Can’t tell if Justin sounds like he is recording in a bubble or if this is actually what he sounds like now that the mic is “fixed”. (no big deal anyway)

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