Massively Opinionated: Is Star Citizen’s ‘first-person universe’ really a new genre?

In the final episode of Massively Opinionated in 2015, our host Larry Everett is joined by panelist Mike Byrne from MMO Bomb. The debate questions are many, all supplied by our Patreon patrons Duane and Vikingr. And this week, it will be up to you to decide who actually won the debate. Below the video sits a poll for each question. Give us a listen, then cast your own vote for the winner of each argument.

This week’s questions:

Thanks goes to our Patreon patrons Duane and Vikingr for this week’s questions.

Should MMOs update with large expansions or small DLC?

  • Large Expansions (76%, 273 Votes)
  • Small DLC (24%, 85 Votes)

Total Voters: 358

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Should OverWatch be free-to-play or buy-to-play?

  • Free-to-play (34%, 114 Votes)
  • Buy-to-play (66%, 221 Votes)

Total Voters: 335

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Are MMOs more fun with or without PvP?

  • MMOs must have PvP (65%, 233 Votes)
  • MMOs shouldn't have PvP (35%, 126 Votes)

Total Voters: 359

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Can MMOs have good graphics and good gameplay at the same time?

  • Yes, both can exist in the same game (96%, 361 Votes)
  • No, developers have to choose one over the other (4%, 17 Votes)

Total Voters: 378

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Is Star Citizen's First Person Universe really a new genre?

  • No, it not a new genre; it's just marketing. (53%, 209 Votes)
  • Yes, it's a new genre because we've never seen these elements combined before. (47%, 187 Votes)

Total Voters: 396

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This week’s panelists:

Larry Everett
Twitter: Shaddoe
Website: Hyperspace Beacon

Mike Byrne
Twitter: Magickmann1
Website: MMO Bomb

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GabeNewellFetish
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GabeNewellFetish

Sometimes, I fall asleep to myself fantasizing about having Bill Gates money. Like, $100,000,000,000. How I’d take out two billion dollars and invest it in a trust from which half of the return would be re-invested and the other half would be put into funding a game studio on that ~$80mil/yr. That studio would have pretty much unending funds there and I’d charge just enough for the game for it to keep itself afloat and re-invest the extra back into the game itself, forever. And have whole fleets of developers constantly working on revamping the engine, so it would be completely updated every couple years. And other teams that did nothing but produce story, art, and events… and the world would just be forever improved upon and revised. So much content that you could play for years and we’d still keep dumping in more awesome content.

But then, I usually realize that if I had Bill Gates type of money, I’d probably be too smart for MMOs and have more important things on my mind than funding a massive MMO studio just to keep me entertained, when I could literally just build my own country or something in real life. :(

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Bluetouchpaper

Star Citizen at this point is an idea which the developers are working towards . If its released them it would be a fair question to ask whether it is something new .

GoJammit
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GoJammit

BryanCo Sounds legit.

Darkwalker75
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Darkwalker75

deekay_zero GoJammit 
I’m curious, why are you so insistent in trying to find faults with what they do?
I’m curious because get the impression that you are trying to find something no matter how trivial and insignificant and make it sound as if they are somehow trying to cheat us and not make the game they promised.

I can understand that you don’t agree with everything they do, I don’t agree with everything they do myself either, but that don’t mean I try to pick apart every little thing and blow it up to sound like we are being cheated and that CIG are somehow doing something nefarious.

MorpayneRADIO
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MorpayneRADIO

neobone Videos like this must anger the haters. 

Long live sci-fi, death to D&D.

GoJammit
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GoJammit

Vikingr If I may paraphrase,
“Ask them if they want to help save this genre from the onslaught of integration. You know the system. They want to throwfps and space ships into the melting pot of integration, out of which will come a conglomerated, mulatto, mongrel class of MMO! Both genres will be destroyed in such a movement! I, for one, under God will die before I’ll yield one inch to that kind of a movement in MMOs.”

BryanCo
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BryanCo

I would argue that it is impossible for Star Citizen to be part of a new genre because a genre, by it’s nature, can’t consist of a single work.  At some point, if other games with sufficient similarity are released, SC might be seen as the first of a new genre.  But that time hasn’t yet come.
As an example Frankenstein by Mary Shelley has been called (most notably by Brian Aldiss) the first science fiction novel.  But no one at the time would have called it a new genre, it was then just part of the gothic novel tradition (it was originally conceived as part of an informal ‘Ghost Story’ competition.)

Vikingr
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Vikingr

neobone
“Are you a Troll?”

Yes, he is.

Vikingr
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Vikingr

ichi plays 
Happy New Year to you too.
(For a moment there I thought you were Bree because your avatar looks somewhat like hers)

Vikingr
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Vikingr

The rest of the vidcast was Ok. Good show, with a fresh debate!

About the last question – Is Star Citizen’s First Person Universe really a new genre?
I think it will be, when it’s released, and I base that on two factors: a) because of the mixing of many genres in one game, on an unpresedented level; but more importantly b) because it’ll become the level of game which sets the new standard that “everyone” will strive to reach upto thereafter.

Point b) is perhaps the most important factor of the two, IMO.