Red 5 says all Firefall devs have now been paid, rebuts rumors of doom

In an email to Massively OP this afternoon, Red 5 has issued a formal statement regarding allegations that its financial situation had led to a failure to meet payroll for Firefall developers last week.

Red 5 Studios, Inc has paid all employees in full. Recent rumors of Red 5 Studios’ financial situation are not accurate.

Firefall is currently operating a limited-account beta test in China. Red 5 studios is encouraged with peak 2nd day retention reaching 84% and working on optimization and content updates for both US/EU and China clients. The upcoming content is now being tested internally and scheduled to be updated to the Firefall US/EU servers in Q1 2016.

Red 5 Studios continues to develop content for Firefall and is planning to have synchronized global updates after the US/EU update. In the first half of 2016, Firefall will have a major content update in China in preparation for the Chinese Open Beta test. Red 5 Studios is committed to provide a high quality interactive experience to gamers all over the world. For more information, please visit www.firefall.com.

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BritoBruno
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MorpayneRADIO What are you talking about, everyone wants pvp back.
Firefall got bended because of bad decisions, not because of cattering to anyone.

ManastuUtakata
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Midgetsnowman ManastuUtakata chriskovo Ceder 
I think we can do that in Canada as well, since our national debt is to ourselves. Wall Street will likely go all ape shit if did that. So yep, making money magically re-appear makes a lot of powerful folks real nervous. But I think we’re digressing…
…and we’re not communist either. :)

jesseschulkers
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Man. I was really excited for this game. I bought into the early stuff and certainly got my moneys worth out of the game. But damnit! I hate the fact that there were just SO MANY shifts in how they wanted the game to go. Is it a PVP game? At a few points, yeah. Is it a PVE game? At a few points yeah. They had so many different ideas on where the game should go it ended up using all its time and resources in re-inventing itself.
Instead of finishing development on the game and improving it they changed its direction nine thousand times. Among other things… Bah. Great fun for a couple months of play but then it wears thin.

Midgetsnowman
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Midgetsnowman

ManastuUtakata Midgetsnowman chriskovo Ceder also likely theyre the sorts terrified china can magically “call in the debt” without successfully destroying the chinese economy instantly

Midgetsnowman
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Midgetsnowman

MorpayneRADIO Because certainly games that have gone for the pvp crowd as is are models of sheer profit.

DPandaren
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DPandaren

MorpayneRADIO OPvP would be neat, but I don’t think it would really fit with the themes of the game. Maybe if there was a system in place with different factions players can join into, that would work well, but I don’t think the game world is large enough to support every Tom, Dick, and Harry’s guild in the game.

ManastuUtakata
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Midgetsnowman chriskovo Ceder 
…not to mention, most of the gaming companies over there are privately owned (or publicly traded where applicable). But I guess it’s in China, it must be communist according to the internet loonery. /sigh

MorpayneRADIO
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MorpayneRADIO

The game screams Opvp and guild territory control. Catering to the carebears who riot at the mention of meaningful pvp has sunk any chance this game had of carving out its spot in the mmo landscape.
Having to deal with the Chosen army’s RTS A.I and enemy guilds at all the captureable towns, while thumping for resources with guildies while watching your back like a child molestor in a prison bathroom would have made Firefall one of the best experiences out there.
But nope, lets bend over for the anti-pvp crowd yet again since they don’t already have dozens of games just for them. Where are those pve players now Red 5?

JudgeDavid101
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JudgeDavid101

Don’t feed the trolls. Happy New Year Red 5 & everyone.

Yangers
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Yangers

chriskovo Ceder and the unfun, not Putin riding a zebra, Communists at that.

ausj3w3l
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ausj3w3l

breetoplay teehee2 I have so many haha – although most on the old puter. It was a pretty game at times.

ausj3w3l
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ausj3w3l

cheesybites76 Darthbawl no didn’t you hear, it’s a re-re-re-launch

JayBezzOfficial
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JayBezzOfficial

I know one of the team members.  Not happy and looking for work.  Southern California job availability anyone?
That being said trying to spin and divert attention to their Chinese development is also a false flag as this development has been going on for a while.  They are trying to open in a NEW market because they don’t have confidence in the western MMO market (as they shouldn’t).

I don’t understand why they think they can conflate the two.  “What does that have to do with the price of Tea in China?” nothing.

Midgetsnowman
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Midgetsnowman

chriskovo Ceder considering china is more hypercapitalist in the marketplace than even america, and big chinese gaming companies like tencent are extremely competent with their money? A lot more than this.

Severik
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Severik

BalsBigBrother A Dad Supreme schlag sweetleaf I’m really disappointed that nobody used Baghdad Bob yet.

ManastuUtakata
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ManastuUtakata

chriskovo Ceder 
….
…I think 4chan is that way somewhere. —>

scratches16
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scratches16

chriskovo Ceder
You mean like Riot? I hear they still manage to pay their employees on time, though…
Oh wait, I get it… you’re just misinformed to the point of delusion about every country except your own (well, perhaps even your own, too). Believing everything you hear on tv is bad, mmkay

cheesybites76
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cheesybites76

Darthbawl But wait! They are going to be totally remaking the leveling and crafting system in a month! …..Again.

cheesybites76
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cheesybites76

Hmm….pretty sure this isn’t the first time in the past 5+ years we have heard all of this “good news!!” from Red5.

Meanwhile, Firefall still has a teeny-tiny game world with very little to do in it, and not much on the horizon except yet another whitewash of entire game systems.

Something tells me those Red Beans….you know, the currency they have been selling since 1956…..aren’t exactly flying off of their virtual shelves.  Oh well, it was fun for a couple of months lol.

Silvercat18
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Silvercat18

We didn’t pay them, for reasons and that’s ok.

Cos reasons.

BalsBigBrother
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BalsBigBrother

A Dad Supreme  I am but a padawan to schlag sweetleaf gif mastery

WoOpin
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WoOpin

I’d ditch that company ASAP and find one that pays people on time. Just shows how much of a s**t they give about their staff…

chriskovo
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chriskovo

Ceder What you expect from a company now owned by communist china?

A Dad Supreme
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A Dad Supreme

Do these people do community podcasts? Because I wouldn’t dare miss their next one.

A Dad Supreme
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A Dad Supreme

BalsBigBrother ohhh you set the bar high now, son.
Schlag will certainly have to up his game now.

Ceder
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Ceder

The good: they admit they were late paying their employees at xmas.

The bad: They were late paying their employees at xmas which never should’ve occurred in the first place if they were financially sound.

ManastuUtakata
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ManastuUtakata

Well…good for them. But since the title suggests “now”, we can safely assume that Red 5 was indeed holding out on their workers. So it’s reasonable to conclude not everything is right in the State of Demark as the PR quote suggests. What that actually entails remains to be seen, I guess.

Darthbawl
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Darthbawl

I guess after that Red 5 feels like saying:

AdeptusEnginus
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AdeptusEnginus

Siphaed That’s kind of one of the things that the leak mentioned in the AMA. The China launch falling through rather fantastically from what was supposed to happen was one of the major things that put the studio’s arse to the flame.
Compared to the information put forward by the leak, this really smells like nothing more than damage control. Can’t blame them, if the leak really WAS being honest and accurate about their situation than that AMA may have just sunk any chance Red 5 had of clawing their way out of this situation.

Qarran
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Qarran

MikedotFoster Lol.  So, I’d like to see the 3 day retention numbers then.  We could establish a downhill trend. ;)

Qarran
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Qarran

BalsBigBrother Nicely done.  I’ll add to the theme.

MikedotFoster
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MikedotFoster

I didn’t know second-day retention was a metric until this moment.
Christ, just apologize.

Siphaed
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Siphaed

Didn’t they say that the China Open Beta was already to have launched 2 months ago? I’m sure of it (http://2p.com/36915555_1/Firefall-to-Start-Open-Beta-in-China-Next-Month-by-Wei.htm). Back in August at ChinaJoy 2015 they were claiming that the Chinese servers were going to have the best version in the world (take that EU/NA!) and was mentioning what would be ready for the up coming closed beta tests. (http://2p.com/35464667_1/Firefall-Interview-Chinese-Server-Will-be-the-Best-Version-in-the-World-by-Aaron.htm)

So the information coming in is conflicted.  They said it was going to be a big closed beta with 80hrs of gameplay back in August. Now saying “limited account beta”.   Mentioned it was going to go into Open Beta in November….and nope, from the info, that hasn’t happened yet.

Their PR really needs to play catch up with the past 6 months before releasing bad statements.

BalsBigBrother
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BalsBigBrother
ITPalg
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ITPalg

chriskovo teehee2

It’s not like there aren’t current shots they could take without going into the game.

I sure hope the game continues. I have physical FF swag to giveaway (perhaps asking for more Red Beans giveaways from Pez) and would like to continue my (semi) regular Firefall Friday streams.

breetoplay
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breetoplay

teehee2 It’s what I had handy in our database for a breaking post. We usually update them later when we have time.

chriskovo
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chriskovo

teehee2  Since no one will notice anyway since its changed so many times perhaps?  :P

syberghost
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syberghost

“Red5 is encouraged with peak 2nd day retention reaching pretty much exactly average for the entire MMO industry”.

teehee2
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teehee2

curious why MassivelyOP only uses Firefall screenshots from 2 years ago (or a 10 year old computer on lowest settings) … hmmm

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