Dogma: Eternal Night puts up new pre-order page

Dogma: Eternal Night is not about to let a flopped Kickstarter campaign get in the way of its money. Er, dreams. Well, probably dreams and money. The studio wasted no time in getting a new pre-order page up for fans who would like to back this dark supernatural MMO, even though alpha access is a while off yet.

The pre-order page sells four packs, including a “pay what you want” selection. The packs include bonuses like the soundtrack, wallpaper, an in-game apartment, and alpha and beta access. There are also options to tack on special purchases such as having your mug made into a most wanted poster and slathered all over the game ($200) and a personal mansion ($500).

As of the writing of this post, Dogma has raised $3,778 through its store.

Source: Dogma, pre-order page. Thanks to DDOCentral for the tip!
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breetoplay
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Wild_Phil A Dad Supreme Possible they’ve simply changed their minds, changed their scope, or gotten some outside investors?

Ernost
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Ernost

Something tells me thus game is never going to see the light of day…

BritoBruno
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BritoBruno

Of course they did.

rottenrotny
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rottenrotny

I hope this game succeeds as I want to see more horror themed MMOs but..

/facepalm

Wild_Phil
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Wild_Phil

A Dad Supreme Another area that makes no sense.  It was stated in their Kickstarter project, “The team has almost finished working on a prototype…The team needs expensive equipment, software, a lot of effort from the
artists, designers, programmers, and a lot of time as well. We need to
create new animations, better textures and effects, tweak the game
balance, and put in new content along with other exciting game
possibilities. Out of all of this the team could only do it with the
help of the community.”
However, their pre-order website says, “Alpha Access Available: 2016”.  This implies they’ve moved from their limited, working prototype to working on alpha (all in less than four weeks since the Kickstarter campaign failed).  And yet the stated they wouldn’t be able to move beyond a basic, working prototype without the finances to do so in the first place.

And now they’re saying they will complete the game to release regardless of funding? Simply doesn’t add up and more indication this is a scam.

A Dad Supreme
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A Dad Supreme

“Q: WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DO NOT COLLECT ENOUGH FUNDS FROM THE PREORDERS, WILL THE GAME BE STUCK IN ETERNAL DEVELOPMENT HELL?
A: We plan to release Dogma: Eternal Night no matter what! Success of the preorders will help us get the necessary equipment and operating software, and move to a central office, making the development more efficient.”=======Well, at least they didn’t guarantee it. They said they ‘plan’ to release it no matter what’. A guarantee might have been legally precarious.

Wild_Phil
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Greaterdivinity ddocentral Exactly. Here is specifically why I think this is a scam and they need to prove otherwise:The development team consists of literally only a handful of part-time developers, and only two ‘programmers’, with a grand total of zero game development history (let alone MMO development)Their Kickstarter of only $100,000 was unrealistic for any MMO; now they’re only asking $25,000 – that went from unrealistic budgeting to flat out delusionalThey claim to be approaching alpha in 2016 and yet every piece of ‘media’ shown is no more than a ‘creepy’ linear walking simulator. When asked specific questions on gameplay or systems, the response is either generic (and in effect answers nothing) or “we’ll talk about that later at some point”.

Greaterdivinity
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Greaterdivinity

ddocentral Still zero information about the experience of their staff (how long they’ve been in the industry, games they’ve shipped etc.), still no (that I could find) actual budgets in terms of costs to bring the game to market or what money would specifically be going to, and some other issues.
This started triggering every single “SCAM” at worst or “EXTREMELY NAIVE BUT WELL INTENTIONED!” at best alarm in my head as soon as the Kickstarter went live. I’d much rather it be the latter rather than the former, but either way it’s money thrown down the drain. And given that we’re continuing to see crowdfunded games either flat out abandoned after they weren’t able to be finished with the funding received (even when they were vastly overfunded) or things like Greed Monger or Trials of Ascension which continually promise the world but deliver little more than slightly altered storebought assets and promises (wish Massively would stop covering those), it’s absolutely worth it to be skeptical as hell as a potential backer/consumer.

Wild_Phil
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ddocentral Wild_Phil No, he was a ‘backer’ of the failed Kickstarter project.  He in no way is ‘backing’ the game development nor individuals behind it.

melissaheather
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melissaheather

Maybe some lucky sod who wins the big lottery will be an MMO fan and we’ll get some awesome vanity projects.   You know, like one with playable undead/unholy/monster races like vampires, werewolves, mummies, Frankenstein-type zombies, the classics, alongside ordinary humans.  Basically anything seen in a classic Universal or Hammer horror film would be in-scope.   Rather like Van Helsing but not nearly as cheesy and comic-relief-y. 
That’s the game I want to play.   Use some art assets from The Secret World, give me Black Desert quality graphics, the playable races I mentioned, and take my money.  Seriously.  I’d pay a subscrip.  I will pay for awesome.  I don’t want mediocre for free.

ddocentral
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ddocentral

Wild_Phil The project has the backing of Mark Rein-Hagen, the World of Darkness creator.

Wild_Phil
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Wild_Phil

This is what they call a scam.  There are far too many things that don’t add up about this ‘project’.

karmamule
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karmamule

I think it’s “Dreams OF money”….

Silvercat18
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Silvercat18

Maybe if I put up a sign on my front door asking for money, I too could make an mmo – cos that’s basically what we are looking at here.

Syco_at_Twitch
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Syco_at_Twitch

At Least their financial goal is more accurate now then just 100k…

Greaterdivinity
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Greaterdivinity

Don’t preorder, please.

Sorenthaz
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Sorenthaz

Well hope it works out for them.  I’ll maybe consider it when there’s more substance.

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