SWTOR is putting lockboxes inside of other lockboxes

Star Wars: The Old Republic apparently couldn’t stand to see RIFT hogging the business model drama spotlight today and has issued a new proclamation about the “Grand Packs” currently for sale on the game’s Cartel Market cash shop.

After February’s patch 4.1, the packs will have a chance to drop a Grand Chance Cube in place of one of the usual ridable or decorative drops. BioWare writes,

“Now you are asking, what is the Grand Chance Cube? Think of it as the ultimate Grand Pack. Inside a Grand Chance Cube you have a chance to receive any available Cartel Market Pack item, including from the current Pack. Also, the Grand Chance Cube acts as a Grand Pack in that if you open an Armor Lootbox, it will contain the entire armor set, not just a few pieces.

This change allows us to place more emphasis on the Silver and Gold items in each pack, as we are no longer building new Bronze items. Now, in place of Bronze items you will receive a Grand Chance Cube. This Cube can contain the rarest of Cartel Market selections, giving you a second chance at highly-desired items.”

“Yo Dawg, we heard you like lockboxes in your lockboxes!” quipped one commenter. You might even call it… lockboxception.

There’s plenty of non-lockbox stuff coming in 4.1 as well, including changes to crafting and insta-gear.

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KorbenDallas
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swingline2008 oh, my bad then, I may try it again after all.
I just dont like RNG bullshit when you have paid for something. I dont mind paying for stuff, I object to paying for an undisclosed chance of getting something…

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Bereman99 Never mind ‘additional’ key. None of the SWTOR boxes require ANY keys whatsoever, whether you get them in game or in shop.

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jeremy2020 wjowski 
 Games are a luxury, you forego luxuries all the time in the real world.

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This morning from Eric Musco:
Hey folks,
We have definitely seen a few consistent topics popping up in this thread and we want to make sure we get answers to those questions. Here they are:
How much will packs cost after these changes?
The price will remain the same as the previous pack at 200 Cartel Coins per pack. Even with the price being the same, it is worth noting that you have a higher chance to receive Gold and Silver items than there was previously.
Are Grand Chance Cubes replacing all Bronze items in packs?
Yes, any time you would have gotten a Bronze item in the past, you will now get a Grand Chance Cube in its place. 
Is it possible that I can get two Grand Chance Cubes in one pack (meaning no new items)?
Yes, this is possible. Just as with previous packs, it is possible to get two Bronze drops together, and in this case that means two Grand Chance Cubes. Keep in mind that you can get a new item from a Grand Chance Cube. It is even possible to get a full lootboxed version of one of the new Gold Armor Sets.
How does this change affect the drop rate on new pack items?
The Bronze category will be less common than it was in the past. This means that there is a higher drop rate for Silver and Gold items (which are new to the pack).
What are the drop rates for Bronze, Silver, and Gold items inside of the Grand Chance Cube?
Although we can’t go into details on specific drop rates, Silver and Gold items will be much more common in the Grand Chance Cube than they were in previous Bronze and Grand Packs.
Are Collection unlock prices going to be adjusted?
There are no plans to adjust Collection unlock prices at this time.
Are there or more less new items in the new pack, with the removal of Bronze items?
There are more Silver and Gold items than there were in previous packs, but less items overall with the removal of Bronze.
Thanks everyone.
-eric

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A Dad Supreme captainzor First of all, you need to relax.  Second, nothing that you said makes what I said any less true (and you even admitted that truth in your previous response.  I am talking about the added VALUE that they give us with the subscription (not the very real need to subscribe just to make the game acceptable in terms of full access to features and content, which is WHY I subscribe, thank you).  They are reducing that added value when they decrease the cartel coin grant spending power relative to how each individual uses it.  Just because you don’t spend it the same way I do doesn’t mean I’m wrong or my point is less valid.

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wjowski jeremy2020 If someone enjoys the game otherwise, but disagrees with lockboxes…they should just stop playing the game altogether? Sure, that may be “right”, but it’s not realistic. 

You could walk away from the modern economy as well and live off the land too.

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Project54 jeremy2020 wjowski Someone had to originally pay for a lockbox to get the item. So even if the person who ends up with the item paid credits for it, it came from a lockbox.

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Most unfortunate part is that lockboxes as they originally had them were fine, then they tweaked them and made them worse, and again and made them worse still and now again..and that result is sketchy but as yet to be determined.

Ideally they should just stop messing with them and put them back how they were :)