Landmark’s storytelling system really is incoming

Amid the week’s sad news and uncertainty, one question is getting a happy answer: Yes, Virginia, there is a Landmark storytelling system! And it is coming in the next beta update. Everyone who had big plans for dungeons or other adventures looks to be getting his or her wish granted. Players will be able to collect and place a new type of prop — appropriately called characters — on their claims. Various aspects of these characters can be set, such as respawn timer, pathing, and trigger interactions. They can also be programmed to be friend or foe, with friends fighting foes along side the players.

Of course, we understand that folks may be a tad skeptical; Daybreak is also offering a few clips giving a glimpse of what’s to come that you can watch below.

https://youtu.be/ltsAscQOpw0

https://youtu.be/tg2pSd8Y9hA

Source: Official forums; thanks to Kinya for the tip!
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analogfantasies
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analogfantasies

Lights_andMusic officeape It was always meant to be a full game. It was just meant to be EQ Next Lite. The main focus was meant to be the building though.

Lights_andMusic
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Lights_andMusic

officeape Yes, is this a game or not?  I thought it was like a building block that sort of fit into EQN…but now it’s trying to be a full game?  or ???  I share your lack of interest

analogfantasies
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analogfantasies

CrispyCycil analogfantasies WandaClamshuckr People were using it to power level to max level in a few hours when a new expansion launched, bypassing quests. So for the Altar of Malice expansion they cut its exp and features and they gimped the experience that any zone but AoM zones gave above level 95. So any of the older contested zones that could be soloed, but still give reasonable experience were cut down to nothing the moment you hit level 96. That way you were forced to go through their incredibly annoying questline that involved you flying back and forth multiple times between several largely spaced islands. Eventually they removed that restriction so now people are free to rampage older zones again if they like. Dungeon Maker is still gimped and dead however.

officeape
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officeape

For me, the interest in Landmark was always as a “gateway” to EQ Next. I have no interest in the gateway if it doesn’t lead anywhere.

Sarigar
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Sarigar

As unhappy as I am with the demise of EQN, I also feel bad for the Daybreak developers. This horrible no-win scenario they are forced to live every day is like something out of Harlan Ellison.

ZenDadaist
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ZenDadaist

Might as well crowbar the scattered bits and bobs left lying around into it…

Zenchii
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Zenchii

Ok, question regarding Landmark; does anyone know what’s up with the high-tech assets? Landmark is based off of everquest next in terms of assets so, is tech a normal EQ thing like it is in WoW or is it just DBG’s attempt to separate landmark from the EQ franchise? I’m not very familiar with EQ so forgive my ignorance.

Zenchii
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Zenchii

dragonwhimsy Midgetsnowman PhunThymes Necro Mage It’s really difficult to agree with you when Minecraft is as wildly popular as it is. It’s obvious many find a sort of beauty in it’s Novel 16 bit style, so simply making that statement as if it’s an objective fact does you no favors.

Sunken Visions
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Sunken Visions

So I spent several months playing this game, learning all the ins and outs. After a while, I realized how much effort it was. I could have just learned how to make an actual game with Unreal and Blender instead. Landmark is literally something that never should have been created, at least not as a game. Sure, you can make some blocky pile of crap like you would in Minecraft or Trove, but when you see what the talented builders can do, you’ll just feel stupid and worthless.
Of course, with EQN being canceled, I can’t see anyone wanting to spend any real time on this game. Honestly, I’m glad I quit when I did. I couldn’t imagine how pissed off I’d be right now if I had spent any more time on this game.

dragonwhimsy
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dragonwhimsy

Midgetsnowman dragonwhimsy PhunThymes Necro Mage For many it is yes. Why would you want to create something inherently ugly? For many the urge to create comes from wanting to create something that is beautiful or provides a sense of wonder. Something that speaks to the soul. You cannot do those things in Minecraft or any of it’s clones.

Norlamin
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Norlamin

I feel like Landmark will always be a constant reminder of what could’ve been, how depressing.

Bannex19
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Bannex19

I guess my only hope for the IP is that daybreak dismantles and sells everything off. Maybe another studio will use EQ to at least 1/4 its potential.

Midgetsnowman
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Midgetsnowman

dragonwhimsy PhunThymes Necro Mage because horrible graphics are totally the fucking thing that will turn off a creative mind.

dragonwhimsy
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dragonwhimsy

PhunThymes Necro Mage The point is a creative game that isn’t burdened with Minecraft’s horrible graphics. Landmark could be a very worthy game on it’s own if Daybreak gives it the proper resources (which it probably won’t).

talast
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talast

nice to see. I am more ways of scripting the behavior comes next.

Radfist
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Radfist

Pandalulz bryanjturner Did you try turning on the alternative models? They make the old play doh faces the default but the updated SOGA / new models look better to many players (especially if you prefer a more anime style look as opposed to clay-animation).

A Dad Supreme
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A Dad Supreme

Humble48 Columbus Nova isn’t going to allow too many F2P games. They probably are smarter than that looking over the genre.

Mortam
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Mortam

Dystopiq I also own it. I bought it BECAUSE it was a tool for making possible content for EQN….now it’s just a shit game.

Mortam
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Mortam

Pandalulz bryanjturner Just wear a helmet all the time :)

Cindy_Adorkly
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Cindy_Adorkly

Pandalulz bryanjturner Congrats to both of you for trying!! The game was okay years ago, but now it’s bad character design just doesn’t cut it.  People were complaining in 2004……

Cindy_Adorkly
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Cindy_Adorkly

WEllllllllll look at that! Maybe my Landmark copy won’t go to waste after all.

mallykbross
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mallykbross

So it seems like this is going to become Daybreak’s version of Trove mixed with a bit of Orcs Must Die? Or are they just going to have the community make the game that they can’t get people that work for their company to do?

Pandalulz
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Pandalulz

MJ Guthrie Telos_ I mean, if I they could get this at least robust enough to make it into the next version of the Neverwinter Nights campaign builder, that would be something right?

Pandalulz
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Pandalulz

bryanjturner I’ll fully admit I’m a graphics snob.  I couldn’t get past the character creator.  I tried, I really did.

pepinocantador
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pepinocantador

The monster stuff looks neat. Maybe they can very gradually slide stuff into Landmark from EQN, and I’ll have something similar to play in 2022.

Humble48
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Humble48

Shouldn’t Landmark just be free at this point? Seems like there’s no reason to support development on a game that’s literally going to go nowhere.

MesaSage
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MesaSage
PhunThymes
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PhunThymes

Necro Mage *Raises hand*

I don’t even know what this thing is anymore. Without EQN what’s the point?

bryanjturner
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bryanjturner

I just can’t do it, my god it’s clunky and ugly.

wjowski
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wjowski

To quote Johnny Dangerously; “And I’mma the Pope!”

Nanulak
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Nanulak

Looks like a poor version of Crowfall now.  I’ll take my losses and move on before I waste any more money or time in this.

Necro Mage
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Necro Mage

Sooo…
How many people here were thinking of Landmark as basically being like EQN’s early Alpha, and that’s why they bought in?
…and with EQN’s demise, all interest in Landmark has fled with it…

bryanjturner
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bryanjturner

I decided to roll a Shadow Knight and attempt to play EQ2 from start to finish because god forbid it gets axed at some point with out me giving it a fair shake.

Rozyn
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Rozyn

analogfantasies Telos_ “It always was meant to be lackluster in comparison so that you’d rather play Next for adventuring.” I think you’re giving them waaaay too much credit here. They just made a shitty combat system, there was no reasoning behind it lol.

chernabog
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chernabog

Yeeesh.   At this point Daybreak could be passing out blowjobs to subscribers and it wouldn’t entice anyone to come back to Landmark.   So I doubt a dungeon decorator will really do the trick.

CrispyCycil
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CrispyCycil

analogfantasies WandaClamshuckr Well that explains why it was being useless when I tried it on another attempt to get back into EQ2.  What was the reason anyways, trying to vitalize their open world?

analogfantasies
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analogfantasies

Telos_ Landmark was always meant to be EQ Next Lite, with the bonus that if you built something really cool and in the theme they were going for, they’d put it in EQ Next. This also explains the complaints about Landmark’s combat, since it’s so lackluster compared to what Next was supposed to be. It always was meant to be lackluster in comparison so that you’d rather play Next for adventuring.

analogfantasies
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analogfantasies

WandaClamshuckr EQ2’s Dungeon Maker can’t even be used to power level alts anymore. They’ve removed all experience and all rewards from it, so it literally is just Dungeon Decorator, an instance where you can stuff all of your extra house items.

Wolf1030
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Wolf1030

MJ Guthrie Telos_ They could also go ahead and start using landmark as the new eqn and slowly release the content to make it eqn but with full feedback from the community as they have with landmark. I’d rather see that then two seperate games.

MJ Guthrie
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MJ Guthrie

Zenchii Yes! Dress them like you can in EQ2 =D

MJ Guthrie
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MJ Guthrie

Zariarn This actually was always intended for Landmark — I wrote about it near the beginning.

MJ Guthrie
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MJ Guthrie

Telos_ This system was planned for Landmark from pretty much the beginning, so I am glad it hasn’t been scrapped.  But if they have anything ready for EQN, I hope they use it in Landmark at least — like other races.

McSleaz
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McSleaz

Too bad the game has only about a dozen player’s to enjoy it, lol. PLUS, these asshats killed EQN, I’ll NEVER support this turd of a company in any way.

rawhunger
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rawhunger

Nope… still doesn’t interest me in the least.  I wanted EQN… screw Landmark.

camelotcrusade
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camelotcrusade

BritoBruno I think this was part of it?  I skipped around.

DugFromTheEarth
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DugFromTheEarth

I hear the storytelling system is code named, “EQ Next”

/snicker

WandaClamshuckr
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WandaClamshuckr

This looks like Landmark’s version of EQ2’s Dungeon Maker, aka Dungeon Decorator.  It’s a really low-grade system, and mostly used by people who wanted to stack a room full of mobs to powerlevel their alts, as well as house decorators who used it as another palette.  It was fun for some, but became a mostly unused feature.

I guess with Landmark, which seems to be highly anemic to begin with, adding something is better than nothing.  I get the feeling they are going to strip some of what they have of EQN and Frankenstein it onto Landmark.

Telos_
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Telos_

Seems like they are going to merge EQN and LM finally.  It was stupid having them as separate projects in the first place.

Humble48
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Humble48

So is this, “Hey, we couldn’t make it work in EQ Next. Why don’t you try and do it and maybe you’ll do better than we did.”?

Zariarn
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Zariarn

I’m willing to bet this feature was intended for EQ Next.

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