WRUP: Better living through obsolete technology edition

Are you the sort of insufferable dillweed who wastes everyone's time during a social gathering talking about how humanity should never have moved on from vinyl records or failure-prone game cartridges or whatever else makes you just insufferable instead of Amish? Then you should order our new series, Better Living Through Obsolete Technology! It's perfect for the change-averse weirdo who doesn't understand why no one has not programmed a decent MMO for the Commodore 64.

This comprehensive 18-tape VHS set with an additional audio reading 8-track recording and laserdisc companion series will guide you in the delicate art of yelling at computer salesmen, why scanlines are the best thing ever, and how to scold people for ruining your playback because they turned on a vacuum cleaner within the same time zone. To order, send a personal check (no money orders or PayPal) to the bottom of the trash can and leave your weekend plans in the comments for What Are You Playing this week.

Andrew Ross (@dengarsw): ​Ugh, I'm so behind on work that I probably shouldn't play much, especially since I intend to go to a cherry blossom festival... mostly for food and secret Pokémon Go time. Fire Emblem Heroes will probably happen too, since it has that Pokemon feel but the units are now much more customizable. Niantic, get on this!

Brianna Royce (@nbrianna, blog): Definitely Guild Wars 2. I'm back in and building up new toons and even finished off another leg of the living story. If my poor wrists hold up, I'll be back there this weekend!

Eliot Lefebvre (@Eliot_Lefebvre, blog): Mass Effect: Andromeda is sort of in early access, but I'm waiting until it fully releases next week. So I'll just be tooling about in Final Fantasy XIV, as per usual. I'm good.

Justin Olivetti (@Sypster, blog): With word that Update 20 is coming out next week for Lord of the Rings Online, I'm scrambling to get all of the remaining quests done in North Ithilien before it drops. It'll probably end up being a silly move, hurrying to finish up content in a gorgeous zone so that I can go into a toxic wasteland, but it's the first time in a while that I've been ready to go with the crowd into a new area, and I want to be there for it.

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Melissa McDonald

I still know people using hi-fi VHS systems to do an analog mix-down of digitally recorded music.

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Sega Box

Did I mention that the Sega Box is capable of running floppy disks?

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Malcolm Swoboda

Mass Effect: Andromeda trial. Lots of good, some great, some mediocre, and.. some poor. The loss of immersion from animation quality and bugs... is real :(.

But besides that and a few smaller issues, I really did have fun.

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Jonny Sage

Cant seem to find any MMOs worth playing, so instead finished up Tomb Raider, and picked up XCom2 on steam sale. Also grinding through Arkham Knight.

Say can we get a calendar of upcoming MMO releases?

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Danny Smith

Cleared Nier automata 100% with all 26 endings. Man if you are a longtime taro fan that was some satisfying stuff. Certain notes about project gestalt and two characters from the first were the sort of thing i was thinking about hours after i finished playing. Not since MGS3 has a game got its hooks in me like that. I imagine if you don't know the universe and havent touched games like Nier of Drakengard its just a very easy devil may cry you beat in 10 hours and go 'what where was the plot?' but even if the first twist was transparent from the off if you know Taro that game is going to be for the PS4 what Shadow of the Colossus is for the PS2. Its something pretty damn special.

Now trying a mess of backlog stuff while waiting for my switch since zelda is the only game besides P5 left for me this year bar the FFXIV expansion.
Tried Dragon Quest Builders finally and combat blows but the rest is a fun, charming minecraft-dragon warrior hybrid thats super nostalgic.
Tried Paladins on PS4 and hoo boy some of that stuff is beyond 'clone from another game' level, but its fun even if everyone is made of wet tissue paper compared to any other game like it i have played.
Tried The Last Station which in concept i should love. A side scrolling, very minimalist sprite artstyle game about a train driver who comes back to work from vacation as a kind of zombie tar man apocalypse occurs and you manage resources, fix up your train and stop at towns to scavenge for supplies to carry people and a valuable military experiment down the line -BUT its ui is trash. On a sunny day you cannot see what you are selecting like its an original gameboy outside. I actually deleted my save data because the screen is black with grey or slightly less grey as selected or none selected and thats the tip of an iceberg made up of 'this should not have passed QR testing' problems. What a shame.

Now i'm playing Night in the Woods -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u17kM8oSz3k

I was put off mostly because its getting another Undertale cringe fanbase of the brony/homestuck/dashcon variety but after friends kept gushing about it being a supernatural horror indie flick version of animal crossing i looked into it and so far im enjoying it. You play a young girl back from dropping out of college and in her sleepy former mining boom town gone to rust during halloween she leaves the local diner with her friends on her first night back to find a severed arm on the sidewalk.
The dialogue can be a bit iffy in its "real people arent this quirky pls stop oh god" attempts at being whedonesque a good 15 years too late but other than that its actually a fun game and not the furry cringefest i expected.

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Hirku

I can't believe I'm typing this, but I'm playing a lot of SWTOR and enjoying it like crazy. Of course, a big part of that enjoyment is that I only care about the class stories and I'm playing for free with all the unlocks I need to enjoy those stories. It's so much more fun when I don't have to care about the lame Knights of the Porcelain Throne story or the miserable endgame grind or $60 lightsabers.

Still, there's only so many stories and when I've played my fill it'll be the mmopocalypse for me. I've become almost completely fed up with modern gaming (too much bullshit, not enough fun), so I've started gathering a "greatest hits" collection of classic and semi-classic games, hopefully enough that I can ignore the games industry for many years when I'm done with SWTOR. I'm up to about 18 titles so far but will no doubt add more during the next round of Steam / GOG sales.

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Pedge Jameson

MMOpocalypse, that's exactly what it is everywhere. The bubble has burst. :/

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Sray

Noticing that myself this week: a lot of people not only not playing any MMORPGs in this week's WURP, but many also stating how they're kind of sick of MMORPGs too.

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Pedge Jameson

Indeed, which is why Massively also has changed their coverage up a bit to include MOBA's and such. Not much going on in MMO's besides kickfarters :P

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Little Bugbear

Well the boyfriend and I have been sick all week so definitely not going out. So, some Hots, Gw2, FF14. Maybe some A Link Between Worlds when I'm laying around. Also if any of you are looking a good single player game checkout Nier:Automata great story make sure to play endings A through E (Not as much repetition as people think. Especially for MMO gamers.) to get the full story and the best ending.

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nobleeinherjar

Like others have said, I'm also pretty burnt out on MMOs for the time being. So this weekend it's more focus on Breath of the Wild with helpings of Nier: Automata on the side. Plenty to keep me occupied until Persona 5 releases.

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mysecretid

When not recuperating, eating, or sleeping and all of that, my gaming time has been mostly spent playing Destiny.

I never would've expected this, but -- as I keep mentioning -- there's enough story, plot, and lore giving the missions context and depth that I keep wanting to play more. It just hits me the right way.

I've been playing some Rise Of The Tomb Raider, also on the PS4, when I need something different.

I think RotTR is better than the last game (i.e. there's actual tombs to raid in this one), but I'm still not a huge fan of this "re-imagined" Lara, who still comes across as too uncertain and self-doubting to impress me.

Simply put, if a young male hero in an action game sounded this tentative and quasi-fearful, the internet would be crying out for digital blood.

Maybe it's just the voice actress? I still agree with British gaming site Rock Paper Shotgun who opined that this Lara has one of the phoniest-sounding English accents -- even though the voice actress is verified English, born and raised.

Or maybe it's just I liked the last "re-invention" of Lara Croft so very much?

Tomb Raider: Legend, and Tomb Raider: Underworld remain two of my favorite games, especially the first one.

You can get them both on Steam for barely a wink and a promise now, provided you're okay with older graphics. These two have got a proper Lara in them, as well.

MMORPGs? I've barely touched them -- even Star Trek Online, which says a lot.

I guess Star Wars:The Old Republic's inability to provide me sufficient entertainment during "off-content" periods has tainted my experience of most of my MMORPGs right now.

Basically, I'm tired of replaying content I've already seen a number of times, for rewards I don't care about -- so I'm following the fun, instead.

Have a great week, folks. Take care of yourselves.

Cheers,

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Hirku

Aren't these current Tomb Raider games a "Lara Croft Begins" sort of origin story, which is why she's not as bold and confident as she usually is? I haven't played them, I could be wrong, but that was the impression I got from the reviews.

Legend was definitely great, and I'd also recommend to anybody out there Tomb Raider: Anniversary, which is a remake of the original TR in the Legend engine.

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mysecretid

I was okay with "She's a novice" (mostly), for the first game, but this is the second game in, and she still seems way too uncertain about herself and the kind of life she's leading, at least for my tastes.

Part of this is probably because there's a huge disconnect between the kind of character Lara presents herself as in these games, and the way she handles the action.

In the first game alone, she probably kills more bad guys than ten special ops teams trapped behind enemy lines during wartime -- and some of those kills are, frankly, f#cking brutal -- and yet, the story wants to insist that she's this uncertain novice who's almost in over her head most of the time.

I mean, the advanced "stealth kills" in Rise of the Tomb Raider -- where she kills enemies by hacking them with her climbing axes -- I actually shouted "Jesus!!!" out loud the first time I saw the kill animation play in-game. It wasn't horrifically bloody or anything, but it sure seemed over-the-top for this "uncertain" young woman.

I could see killing a threat that way once, maybe, out of fear and adrenaline -- but to make it her go-to stealth kill seems out of character for the novice Lara they keep insisting she is ...

Sure, it's obvious the game's writers and the people who design the combat clearly weren't talking to one another at all -- but it ends up making Lara look like some sort of split personality -- one part blood-soaked professional killer, and one part "Ooh, ick! Spiders! Ewww" It just seems ... damn weird, my friend.

My opinions only, of course,

Cheers,

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Sray

I love the new Tomb Raiders games, but I do agree that Lara could sound a lot more confident by the end of RotTR, but -very minor spoiler warning- by the end of the game you can see how they are definitely a planned trilogy that tells her origin story, and that the connections between the two games are much heavier than they initially appear.

My biggest issue with the new series is the over-the-top graphic death cutscenes in the new games. While RotTR seemed to tone them down a bit from the first one, or because I played both back to back I had just improved to the point that I saw very few of them in the second game, they are still too much, and players should have to opt in to see that if they want it (they should default off because you can't unsee things, so opting out usually comes too late; and because watching that kind of stuff should be a decision that you have to make, not one made for you that you have to back out of).

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mysecretid

Agreed. I can handle graphic death scenes in games where they serve some sort of story purpose, but they feel gratuitous and out-of-place in these new Lara Croft games. Please see my reply to Hirku, above, as I think some of what I wrote touches on what you're talking about as well.

Cheers,

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Esoteric Coyote

I'll copy this from the last Albion article, with a few updates.

So I may have fallen for the whole peer pressure to get Albion, power guilds can easily control the market and progression of other players. In cities you can buy land for crafting stations and set the price or the use to anything. You can make the private, or charge people a 500% markup, mostly because food prices are too high. I hit this already, I can't make tools without paying 500% markup past T4 and most Albion players just say "lawl get good" Some of these markups means using that station costs more than to buy the material or gear off the AH. On top of that, players who bought an ox carry 8(more like 10) times as many materials as on foot and run twice as fast. So their progression is miles ahead of me which means I'll never be competitive and it makes the grind long and annoying. And there is massive money to be made keeping those stations on lock down.

Getting an ox through the vendors requires you to have a level 3 island, which in total costs 100k and a single baby ox or horse is 12k for the lowest quality. On foot a foal costs two trips of tier 4 mats, for the isle that's just 18 runs or so... Through two to three zones.... With Ox you can get 4/6 foals in one run, or a level 3 isle in one or two runs. I ended up buying an ox from players for about 40k, and it took me more than 2 hours to fill it to 58% capacity at which point all my tool broke. I was carrying over 1100 mats, on foot I can carry about 200. Massive difference. I'm gonna wander in to a yellow zone and if competition for mats is lower because the game seems... slightly overpopulated.

TL;DR Do not recommend unless you play with a large group to feed you mats, gear, or use their crafting stations. And for a crafting game it's probably the least appealing options. Don't listen to people on the internets...

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Xijit

LoL, it is like they threw in every shitty/exploitable game mechanic, that have been proven to cause an MMO to fail over and over again, while muttering to themselves "it is ok; it will work this time because I am a special snowflake."

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butterpanda888

Everquest, Everquest 2, DCUO, Tree of Savior, Stellaris.

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Drainage

I still use a turntable. Wouldn't have it any other way.

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Pedge Jameson

I have one next to a box fan just in case a Troll comes out of the wall and tries to steal my breath when I sleep.

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Drainage

Pedge. That was delightful.

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Drainage

Pedge, I understand the joke. :-)

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Pedge Jameson

Sorry very obscure joke. :P

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Manastu Utakata

I have two.

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Crow

Despite it not being spring yet, really, we trekked out this morning to one of the region's first flower shows of the season. Beautiful tulips. It smelled like dirt and pollen. It was wonderful.

With nice weather so close around the corner I've barricaded myself behind space sims and The Expanse and Babylon 5. The latter I have never seen (just missed it... never been on an easy streaming service I've found) but after watching the pilot film and first episode I am so very hooked.

Temp lows are a bit too chilly for my skinny bones through the end of the month, which is a damn shame since the moon as vacated the evening sky until the end of the month leaving some nice opportunities for non-lunar views. I'm looking forward to doing some in-game/out-of-game comparisons with Elite when we get our photo adapters set.

I did finally get my Sol System Permit in Elite: Dangerous earlier this week, but I've been busting ass to get contracts filled for Winters before heading off to the new Fed/Empire warzone. Nope. Not gonna happen, Empire. Our system. Perhaps some Kerbal Space Program will occur if I'm feeling sharp enough to calculate deltas.

My Cobra just... I can't give it up. I know I should use my larger ships, but... that speed! Perfect mission runner.

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Loopy

The Expanse is probably one of the best sci-fi shows i've seen in recent history, and am super stoked that 3rd season has been ordered by SyFy!

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Bryan Correll

Babylon 5

Just wait until you understand the significance of this:

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zyrusticae

My tonsils got infected, so that's fun. Better than going full-on feverish, but not by much.

In other news, I got into Starbound recently, albiet with a crapton of mods to improve the experience. (I've never experienced the vanilla game and I have no plans on doing so.) It's been quite a lot of fun. I really appreciate what the modders have accomplished with this framework. Nothing quite like being an adorable fluffy space raptor in a badass high-tech super suit while being captain of a huge starfaring vessel! (I still need to recruit more crew members, though. Would help if Avali NPCs spawned anywhere near regularly.)

Also on the docket: Nier Automata, which has been a mixed bag port-wise so far, but as far as the actual game goes, it's definitely a Yoko Taro game with Platinum credentials behind the gameplay. In other words, it's a thought-provoking experience with great action combat and a fascinating setting. It's probably going to occupy a fair amount of my time this weekend. Still playing For Honor as well, but not going to be doing much more than my dailies there. It's lost a lot of its luster after the weaknesses of the current balance situation have reared their ugly heads.

I'll get back to Path of Exile and maybe some MMOs eventually... but it's gonna be awhile, I think. This time of year is just crazy crowded with new releases. Too much to play and see!

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mysecretid

The only mod I used was one which let me recruit any NPC I met as crew if I chose to do so.

If the Avali are the ones who look like foxes, you'll only find them on Savannah worlds, which I didn't start stumbling across until later in the game.

Feel better soon!

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Sray

Sorry to hear about your tonsils, hope you're feeling better soon.

On the plus side though, I do believe that is a reason to be able to shove as much ice cream down your throat as you can handle.

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Loopy

Getting super burned out from MMOs.. trying to find something new and fresh. I'm leaning towards Albion, but the FFA PVP and full body looting is keeping me at bay at the moment..

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deekay_plus

the gmae is fairly pay2win tho given the nature of the gameplay. like hte $100 pack mounts give considerable early game advantage for example.

also keep in mind you can't be self sufficient at all in the game. you definitely have to rely on others while sticking to a couple focused roles.

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Loopy

To be honest, i'm not too worried about P2W. I generally don't play MMOs competitively, but moreso for the setting. Would you recommend the game?

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Esoteric Coyote

No. Ignoring my issues with p2w in another post. The game isn't very good. Combat is meh and the controls are bad, the ui is bad, though weapon choices later on are cool. It's very grindy and overall not rewarding. It might be a good putter game, but I think they are far better crafting putters out there.

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deekay_plus

not sure. been playing 3 days taking yday off in that time and idk... the combat looks better on video than it feels in game to play imo. and without an ox for the weight bonus i spend alot of my progression time traveling back and forth to town due to weight limits so that';s kind of lame.

some interesting bits to it tho. but idk.

but definitely alot less gankbox than i was expecting before hand.

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deekay_plus

so basically most of the gameplay areas are non pvp, and then gradually ramp up in terms of penalties for ganking and risk for ganking from high risk for flagging at all to everyone is flagged.

and then full corpse loot iirc is only in black rated zones. otherwise it's a decay based system.

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Sray

I'd planned on spending much of the day playing "watching Iron Fist on Netflix while stuffing my face with Doritos" but I ended up buying a bunch of Ruffles instead... and Iron Fist seems amazingly terrible. I'm only about half way through the first episode, but it's like none of the characters has ever seen a badly written TV show, so they're stuck doing all the stuff that characters do in a badly written TV show instead of doing the stuff that literally anyone who's ever watched a badly written TV show would do instead. Basically, it seems very badly written.

After about 85-ish hours in Horizon Zero Dawn I've completed pretty much everything that I'm going to; there's still some collectibles (too boring), and some hunting ground stuff left (some of it just gets too difficult for my skill level), but I've effectively finished everything that I feel is worthwhile. Some tweets and other scuttlebutt went around this week that Guerrilla Games is working on "an expansion of Aloy's story" at the moment, so fingers crossed that they're talking about some story DLC that we should see in the next few months, as opposed to a sequel that we're still years away from (although I sure as hell hope they're also working on a sequel).

So, with one of the best games I've ever played finished for now (I'll replay some day, but not for a while) I'm looking for something new to sink my teeth into. Looking at my Steam backlog: nothing too interesting. My PS4 catalog has some interesting choices -Beyond: Two Souls, Uncharted 3 and 4, returning to Heavy Rain- but it's looking like I'm going to finally sink my teeth into The Last of Us... although "zombie" game means I'll probably have to find something that I can still play after 8pm (yes, I am that big of a wimp). Also thinking of picking up NieR: Automata for the PC, but I think I'll leave it until the's a patch or two that fixes a few little bugs and hopefully adjusts the UI to work better for ultra-widescreen monitors.

Still miss playing any MMORPGs.

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Bryan Correll

Three episodes in and the show hasn't really grabbed me the way the others did. I'm hoping that it does a reverse Luke Cage (which started super strong but about half way through took a wrong turn.)*
* Opinions may vary, but that's mine. I won't elaborate to avoid spoilers for anyone who hasn't seen it yet. Though if you want to see it and haven't yet, why the hell not? I outta just go ahead and spoil it to punish you for your procrastination! Sweet Christmas.

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mysecretid

I don't hate Iron Fist, but I agree with your assessment that a lot of the characters act as if television shows never existed in their world. Some of the scenes are pretty "stock".

But again, I don't hate it after five episodes or so -- we'll see how the last half of the show goes for me.

Cheers,

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BalsBigBrother

Of all the Netflix Marvel shows I do think Iron Fist is the weakest in terms of character and story or at least that is my first impression of it from the 6 or so I have watched. (reserve the right to change my mind once I have watched the series.) At the moment I am sort of just looking at it as a cheesy martial arts series rather than a Marvel Heroes one and from that point of view it is an ok show of that type.

Oh well we still have the Defenders series to look forward to later in the year and I am eagerly anticipating that that one.

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Sray

I'm about mid-way through now, and the series does get better. Still not great, but it does seem to correct the lagging in the middle chapters problem that the other series have had. Still a lot if poorly written explanations and character motivations, and a lot of scene to scene inconsistencies, but the faster pacing as the series progresses helps to compensate.

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Sorenthaz

MUD stuff, FFXIV, LoL, maybe doing stuff on SMITE. Don't really know.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

Path of Exile for me. Finally got my firestorm witch through the first Lab and now looking to finish up cruel. Had a terrific legendary ring drop and I've racked up enough Perandus coins that I'm starting to look for that slacker Cadiro to see what great deal he'll offer me.

Loving the league stones, as I'm pretty close to finishing up most of the league-specific challenges that I missed in the past.

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DeadlyAccurate

I'll mostly be playing Overwatch and Ghost Recon: Wildlands as usual, plus something else I can't quite decide on. I actually reinstalled ARK and a bunch of mods, but I dunno if that's the one I want to play. I want a meaty survival sandbox with a strong Act 3, but so far I can't find one. 7 Days To Die is probably the closest, but once you've played past day 49 and gotten to reinforced concrete there's not much reason to keep playing.

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Sray

I feel kind of like that's why almost none of these survival games has actually made it out of early access: they've got no idea what to do for high end content. ARK's solution is literally just "raiding to grind towards better gear"; but at least they've got something, whereas your other games like Day-Z and Rust just keep their populations forever running in the mid-game circle.

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deekay_plus

id actually like to see a survival game more like dayz without all this base building grind bullshit they all have nowadays

except like... good. :P

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life_isnt_just_dank_memes

It's a mostly BDO weekend as I level my Dank Knight to 57 from 56. I'll play some ranked matches in Street Fighter V as well. I am thinking of switching from Zangief to Vega. The changes to both characters in the upcoming patch look so fantastic though I may end playing both regularly.

I am almost done with the Witness from my Humble Monthly sub and I am finally playing Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor. Both games are fantastic.

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thickenergy

Oh, I forgot to ask what is up with The Massively Mob Steam group? Almost 900 members but it doesn't look like it is being leveraged in any way.

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deekay_plus

tbh steam's community systems aren't very good for much i found. evne tho most of my guild have steam i found it almost useless as a tool to coordinate or communicate to people with as unless they are online and at their computer at the time i send out a message they won't get the msg unless they actively and conciously go look at the group page.

and if people are online and at their computer then the pop ups are going to be annoying while gaming or doing other stuff.

so ultimately at the time a closed fb group worked alot better. tho we've done discord since which is a mixed bag.

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Xijit

Dusted off my PS3 and picked up Rune Factory: Tides Of Destiny on the cheap.

*shrug* what can I say: there is nothing on the MMO-market that combines casual play, with housing, and extensive crafting.

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Liandreth

I'll be playing WoW a tiny bit, but most of my available gaming time will be playing Albion Online. It's really fun. I'm enjoying it quite a lot.

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thickenergy

Getting burnt out on the stuff I've been playing as I've got over 500 hours in Conan Exiles already and have logged well over 600 in Atlas Reactor since it hit Steam and probably have about 800 hours in it altogether.

So I'll be taking a bit of a game break this weekend while I watch Iron Fist and download some games that I need to return to, such as Path of Exile. Might also check out some other games that have piqued my interest, such as Portal Knights.

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deekay_plus

i took st paddy's day off from gaming to just chat with guildies and it was magical! :D

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zoward

My daughter has been sick most of the week, and is still housebound after four days, so we colored Easter eggs a little early and hid them for her to find this morning. Much of the rest of my free time lately has been used to clear snow.

In the world of MMO's, I subbed to Dungeons & Dragons Online at the last minute in order to snag the free lioness companion. although I won't be able to use it for a few levels. I've been all in on this one. It doesn't hurt that a day or two after I subbed the new Dragonborn race dropped - and is free for subscribers! At the time I'd been trying out various builds, including a Drow Favored Soul build which was not going well. So I "re-rolled" a blue-tinted Dragonborn Favored Soul, and playing it has been a blast so far. I've still been playing Lord of the Rings Online, but after the Treasure Hunt ended, I've mostly puttered around, picking up my freebies et al. The only other game I've been playing is The Secret World, trying to get through the City of the Sun God with my Templar.

I hope everyone has an enjoyable and restful weekend!

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deekay_plus

we've been checking out the new wotc made for roll20 and the other one content stuff. it's kind of interesting and the nice thing i guess is that they are licensing it to the companies do the online pnp well instead of what we're more used to with their video games the past several years. lol.

my dm complains about a lack of discount if you already own the same stuff in physical form which i guess makes sense since it's literally the same stuff just digital. tho wotc loves to double dip on physical vs digital in general so idk what he was expecting or is that serious about being airing the complaint fwiw. lol

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zoward

Yeah, I read about WotC's new digital tools. I haven't had the opportunity to do a lot of PnP since college, and since I was a computer science major, everyone in our D&D group wrote their own. We ended up with a bizarre mix of technologies: my roommate's was written in Basic, then rewritten in FORTH; mine was written in Turbo Prolog. It was mostly a conglomeration of monster, player and loot tables, character states trackers, and (of course) RNG, but the players always preferred to roll their own dice. Go figure! Those were good times.

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BalsBigBrother

I have some things I want to do on my alts in Lord of the Rings Online ahead of the rumoured launch of the next patch this coming Monday (20th). Still enjoying my Beorning and having fun with a Lore Master too but if the patch does drop it will be back on my hobbit hunter I imagine.

When not Middle Earthing I have been taking another look at Elite: Dangerous and I am getting back into my stride again. When you have all the galaxy to play in and no real guidance it can be hard to decide what to focus on. More so when there isn't really any direction offered by the game in terms of a narrative.

In the end as a short term goal I decided to upgrade my Python with some engineer upgrades. This doesn't tie me to a particular task and I can take on different types of content while still working towards my goal. I am still unsure what my long term goal is for this game though.

Oh I am also in the middle of a binge watch of Iron Fist on Netflix too. At the moment I am not sure what to think of this one, it is entertaining enough but as a character I am not sure what to make of him or how I think he compares to the other members of the Defenders.

Well anyhow rambled on enough so hope you all have a safe and fun gaming weekend o/

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Line

Nier: Automata is love, Nier: Automata is life.
Bayonetta but with many more weapons and robust RPG systems (if strangely designed, weird to get more "skill space" with gold rather level ups...?), an interconnected world with various locales and wildly different gameplay styles... and a story by Yoko Taro.
It even has shitty MMO quests but with actual rewards (and not only loot, but also unique sound tracks and lore) for those that want it.

Glory to Mankind! (... or what passes for Mankind this time, give me all the plot twists).

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Xijit

I'll pick this up eventually.

Zulika Mi-Nam
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Zulika Mi-Nam

Still in ESO, but I may take a peek at some of the prettier games of Zuli past to see how the new shiny performs - rawr!

Oddly enuff the new 1080TI is smaller than my old 690GTX.

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zoward

Gratz on the new hardware. I'm overdue for a refresh, but my son is more overdue, so I'll probably rebuild his first, as time and money present themselves.

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deekay_plus

my pc is dying and waiting on a lump sum of inheritence money to build a whole new one. every so often on boot my computer takes a shit and windows recently corrupted itself prompting a new install of that. but kind of being held hostage by the motivation to do complete new build given that i can't be sure which component or multiple components are at fault, tho i strongly suspect my evga mobo with expanding awareness of them using cheap components for their custom in house designed products. which is sad because at one time they were one of the strongest brands in teh business but have progressively gotten worse.

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Sray

I usually upgrade every about four years, so I'm coming up due on a new rig myself. However, the problem I'm finding right now is that there's no compelling hardware reason to upgrade, so I might just hold off until next spring to see how Cannonlake and 2nd gen Ryzen 7 CPUs perform.

The performance difference between a new CPUs like 7700K or any of the Ryzen 7 lineup and my old 4770K is not enough to justify the thousand dollars or more on a new CPU, motherboard, heatsink, and RAM (yeah, I like my ridiculously overpowered rigs: so many poorly optimized games out there that I like having the power to bulldoze through most of that). However, this time around I'm planning on building almost entirely from scratch including a new case, PSU and even monitor (only planing carrying over a couple hard drives and probably my GTX 1070s); so this one ain't gonna be cheap, thus I want it to really be a worthwhile.

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deekay_plus

i've upgraded my gpu every couple years until this year. my 2600k is still going strong performance wise but my motherboard is dying or something. probably good reason evga stopped doing lifetime warranties the generation before given the trouble i've had with it for years now.

so i'm waiting on money to come in and i'll build a whole new pc with 7700k and 1080gtx and m2 drive and sexy window case.

ryzen is similar in performance in most games to my 2600k. except games that rely on fast ram in which case it performs like utter ass. so no skyrim or fo4 or arma for ryzen owners i guess. i actualy smh when i see people bragging about buying ryzen for games. it's like literally the worst use case scenario for it and it's not even remotely well priced if you're gaming as it is.

but yeah i've had this mobo and cpu for like 6 years now. they've done their time and the performance is still solid lol.

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Sray

From my point of view, if you're looking at a pure framerate pusher for a 240Hz monitor on a game that's purely single core like say CS:GO then Intel is still the best solution. But, outside of that fairly limited scenario the truth is that with either Intel or AMD solutions the framerates at 1080p on every benchmark I've looked at are still far more than the 60 to 75 fps that 97% of monitors at the size would use. At higher resolutions, the Intel advantage tends to evaporate: 2k, 4k, multi-monitor and 21:9 stuff are where the majority of people who are building high end rigs are playing; making most of the benchmarks that have been getting thrown around kind of useless because the majority of them are 1080p tests.

Furthermore there's certain things that there's not really a benchmark for, such as visual quality of game streaming, which I've consistently found that Ryzen processors do a better job with. And when just looking at games being played, I'm seeing buttery smooth frame rates in today's most graphically demanding games: the actual human end user perception tends to see little to no difference between Intel or AMD.

We're looking at all of this at a time when Ryzen is suffering improper scheduler implementation within Windows itself, so multi-threaded stuff isn't being handled properly; and zero games that are actually optimized to take advantage of the hardware, whereas most PC gaming optimization has been built around Intel for years (hence a bit of a pre-built advantage there).

However, given that we both likely prioritize different things, we could end up smacking heads for days over a bunch of minutiae, so I think we'll have to agree to disagree on Ryzen's merits.

I'm not trying to come off as some AMD fanboy: I've been happily using Intel CPUs for well over a decade, and realistically there's a good chance that's what I'll be looking at for my next build as well. But from where I sit, calling Ryzen crap for games is a gross overstatement based on slightly poorer performance in a few very limited scenarios due mostly to an admittedly lower instructions per clock, small-ish bugs, and as yet immature drivers and BIOSes. I'm just glad that AMD is back in the game, as this should hopefully push the hardware forward in performance, drive pricing down, give developers even more power to build better looking games, and finally make the cost of upgrading from five and six year old systems worthwhile.

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deekay_plus

makes sense that a single gpu card would be shorter than a dual gpu card. it's actually one of the common downsides as some cases have issues fitting dual gpu cards.

and welcome to the pleasantries of single gpu gaming as well. no more bothering to see if a game has sli support or how well supported it is or disabling sli for certain games. just easy peasy run the damn game operations. XD

Zulika Mi-Nam
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Zulika Mi-Nam

I guess you're right. I wrongly assumed, with the die size being bigger, that the existing "allowed by consumer space" would be utilized for the more capacity and/or component spacing for thermal reasons as it was already an available resource.

And ya, SLI support officially sux now.

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Sray

Multi-GPU support sucks these days, but they'll have to pry my dual GPU rigs out of my cold dead fingers.

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deekay_plus

i had a guy in my guild who ran a 980gtx and then 970 for his 2nd and third screen. completely baffling.

and no he wasn't gaming in surround. >>

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deekay_plus

SLI is way better supported than cross fire, but was never really that great in general. dual gpu's have never really been worth it even at it's best. even when people have heavily promoted it as a killer deal cash wise i'm glad i resisted in favour of higher end single gpu solutions as every time the downsides presented themselves word of mouth wise.

i mean i did run 2x 480s briefly (got a free one from my bro who is a bit more money than brains at the time and ran 3x 480s against my advice LOL) to do surround in swtor when you needed 2 gpus to do 3 screens. and it was ok if a bit hot at the time, but really generally i find it's just less hassle to deal with to do single higher specced gpu if i want the bells and whistles and high performance to go with em.

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Bobuliss

I'll be playing EVE Online. Hopefully there'll be some good fleets to get into to entice me away from my ratting.

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bigangry

Working on my Anima weapon still, as is the theme these days. I'm light farming, still on the first of 10 runes. I... have a feeling I'm not going to get this phase too quickly.

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Danny Smith

Just spam A1S in duty finder, each run takes like 2 minutes and you can complete it in around 2 and a half hours.
Or spend weeks on 15-40 minute dungeon runs :p

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bigangry

UPDATE: Just ran Great Gubal Library (Hard mode) for lv60 Roulette and my first rune is DONE! Moving on to Rune #2 of 10!

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deekay_plus

i'm still stealth sniping bad guys in wildlands, while i plan my exit strategy in archeage. and adding albion to the list of games i'm actively playing this week.

albion has some interesting points but has proven to be pretty pay2win in curious and not so obvious ways. it didn't help that sundial misrepresented how interdependent the game is role wise which has led to some unecessary qq. otherwise it's kind of novel and interesting in certain ways so we're gonna keep at it for now.

this weekend's video share is the moment i found a useful lighting scenario for thermal imaging in wildlands. i don't have video of the normal view but basically it was too dark for normal imaging but a saturated light source made it too bright for NV. and thus i ended up using thermals to good effect. also big explosions in the second scene! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FUP5Pqz1hk

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Simon Kolomar

Just finished Horizon: Zero Dawn so it's time to get back to my PC and continue my adventures in Tamriel (ESO).

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hugmonster

Got a few hours left of the Mass Effect Andromeda trial so I'll be playing some multiplayer. Once that's done, probably ESO.

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deekay_plus

some of the stuff i've been hearing and seeing from MEA is just wild. and often from people who are alot more sympathetic to bioware than i am. it's pretty nuts. ofc people will blame EA for it i think even tho this stuff isn't really typical for other EA owned studios the past few years.

anyways have fun with it! don't let the naysayers hate on your fun :P

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hugmonster

I played the single player stuff so I can see where they're coming from.
Looks like the review embargo is coming back to bite them in the ass since no one is allowed to say that it gets better if it actually does. I'll wait for a few reviews and if it turns out that it doesn't, I'll probably wait for a sale before picking it up.
On the other hand, I played the shit out of ME3's multiplayer and I can see myself doing the same for this one too.
Decisions, decisions... All will be revealed in next week's WRUP :P

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