The Daily Grind: Will World of Warcraft hold its 7.2 patch until June?

On October 24th, World of Warcraft launched patch 7.1, which contained a lot of not-quite-ready-for-launch Legion features and a bit of content. Since then, the game hasn’t really launched any content. Sure, patch 7.1.5 launched in early January, but that just added the Brawler’s Guild back to the game for content (which, admittedly, has a lot of new boss fights). We’re looking at a content gap that’s starting to spread out a fair bit already, and patch 7.2 is coming out… well, eventually?

Of course, MOP’s Bree and I are in pretty close agreement about when it’s coming out: June. Because that’s when a new Final Fantasy XIV expansion and The Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind both launch, so they’re going to want to try to kneecap both of those launches.

At least from this side of the fence, that’s a pretty dumb plan. It’s the same plan that was in place for patch 6.2 of Warlords of Draenor, which wound up with lots of complaints about the delays, and it doesn’t seem to have really crippled the launch it wanted to “intercept” there, either. Still, it’s the sort of plan that Blizzard has used in the patch, and with two big competing releases in the same month it seems almost absurd to think it wouldn’t be tried. So what do you think, dear readers? What do you think the odds are of WoW holding its next patch until June? And how much grousing do you expect if people are waiting that long for more content?

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Joshua Dickerson

They have ESO and FFXIV to contend with, I believe it will be closer to those dates.

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Bannex

If this patch comes out at the end of the month or beginning of next what will all these edgelords find to be mad at a game they no longer play!?

As many have said, it’s already marked for release, it won’t be coming out in June. I hope you all feel really really foolish and I’m shocked that this article was posted at all but then again that was the point wasn’t it? ;)

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It’s already on the background downloader and the current PTR build is marked as a release candidate. That means 7.2 is coming the first week in April, or maybe sooner, with Broken Shore and all of the catch up / lead in stuff that will get us ready for Tomb of Sargeras.

Tomb of Sargeras is what we will get in June. But we have a ways to go yet before it makes any sense at all to be opening the next raid tier. For one thing, there are less than 60 kills on Mythic Gul’dan in the entire world, two months after Nighthold launched. So there is plenty of time, and plenty of nerfs to come, before the current tier is wound out.

And if Tomb opens with the first reset in June, that would be right on schedule for the 4-5 month pace that Blizzard has said they want to maintain for major raids. So far, from everything we have seen, they are sticking to that pace, and plan to continue.

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Roger Melly

I don’t think a WoW patch will have any real influence of the sales of either an Eso or FF14 expansion . These games for the most part appeal to completely different types of gamers .

If Blizzard are really doing this to “knee cap” the competition they are really only doing a disservice to their loyal subscribers .

And in the eventuality there are people who are playing either ESO and/or FF14 and WoW at the same time I doubt a WoW patch will stop them buying expansions for other games they are enjoying in fact any substantial delay in such a patch may give them second thoughts about remaining a subscriber .

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Arbs

Now if their was no release candidate or background downloader hadn’t begun already than maybe your post wouldn’t look so silly. 7.2.5 in June is possible. But the raid will surely come out in June / July. Also with raid tiers or pvp seasons not being tied to patches it allows them more freedom when patches come out.

I’m assuming Elliot had this already written up already & just dropped without actually checking up on 7.2 news at all. Because if they actually followed up on news than this post prbly wouldn’t exist.

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Ben Stone

Uh I think you are forgetting that Nighthold only launched mid-January as well. Casual players have only just unlocked Guldan last week, and progession raiders only just cleared mythic. So not much of a content gap really. I expect it will be launched in the next month, given prepatching has begun.

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Leviathonlx

I feel like this article was written before the background downloader for the patch came up on Friday. That and just about anyone that pays attention (which I’d expect of people writing for a game site) could have guessed that 7.2 was going to be late March or early April after Blizz has repeatably said the raid isn’t tied to the patch. Now the raids opening date being in June along with a 7.2.5 a week or so beforehand is pretty likely to 1. compete with Stormblood and Morrowwind and 2. because that’d be 6 months of Nighthold which is how long they want raids to last. That and Blizz themselves last week saying a 7.2.5 is going to precede the raid.

I tend to expect better articles on this site rather than something that comes off as click-baity.

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Arbs

It is kinda obvious that Tomb of Sargeras will release in June / July it fits directly with how long a raid lasts 5-6 months.

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Denice J. Cook

About the only thing WoW can kneecap is itself, and Blizzard has been doing that steadily since the day Cataclysm launched.

*ducks*

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Aggrax

Since the most recent PTR build was flagged as release, I would say that early April is a more likely.

The big thing to remember is that, unlike previous expansions, raid tiers are not completely tied to patch cycles. So while Patch 7.2 is likely to come out soon, June/July is a likely date for the next raid release.

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Apollo Haner

Given that we’ve already preloaded the patch, June seems rather a silly prediction. I’m guessing 03/28/17.

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Estranged

Same ole promises, never delivered.

More content they said, at a better cadence.

The only reason some folks are overwhelmed with the new release content is the heavy grind on leveling the weapons. Smart move. Looks like more, when it is less.

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Lucas Jordan

“Of course, MOP’s Bree and I are in pretty close agreement about when it’s coming out: June.”

You are quite incorrect. The latest PTR build for 7.2 has been flagged as a release candidate and the PVP season is coming to an end. The patch will likely launch within the next 2-3 weeks.

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Jeff

If they do hold it, it confirms what I have suspected…Blizzard doesn’t have shit in response to Morrowind or Stormblood

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Arbs

Well FF14 is friendly competition & Blizzard/WoW needs it. But in my opinion ESO or Zenimax aren’t competition at all. Just MOP loves ESO & they just throw it in the mix.

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drypulse

don’t i already have it downloaded through the background downloader?

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Shaun Shaungbr

For the past two expansions they promised that there would be no content drought and yet their doing it again. Throwing some scraps under the table is not going to cut it compared to other mmo’s releasing content frequently.

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Wrecktangle

How is their a content drought?

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Christopher Allcock

Blizzard ARE adding content, however, it’s more the case of adding to the ‘world quest loop’ than anything meaningful.

The issue I see with Legion is the same issue Blizzard ALWAYS have with WoW: most of the ‘story’ content past the main ‘intro’ of the arc (Broken Shore in this case) and levelling content is ‘stalled’ until you complete a raid and/or is given out in much a small portion it’s not even worth it. The ‘final’ patch seems to be the biggest leap in content from current trends, adding a new zone and new grind systems in play and it simply doesn’t work anymore.

The problem with this is there is very little story/world building for the longest time considering each raid has to be spaced out for the life of the expansion. Considering there are normally now only 3 raids over 2 years-ish it’s a pretty long wait if they did stick to it.

Right now they are going for a three month cycle, which to be fair works for a certain other MMO, however, in WoW’s case they are really only ‘a dungeon’ or ‘a raid’ to the game on the update; falling back on the world quest loop again to support the playerbase for the ‘non-instanced downtime’. It’s been done to death by the playerbase now and it needs shaking up or at least add another arc like Suramar has to at least give players a break from the loop.

7.2 seems like it may fix this issue, thankfully, let’s hope it doesn’t take 8 months for the next push.

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pepperzine

I don’t normally point this out, but the incorrect use of they’re, their, and there in two posts in a row is really getting to me lol

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Bannex

JUNE!? LOL nope.

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Wrecktangle

Its interesting to see all the comments on how players would be impatient when all I hear from the WoW community is the exact opposite especially for raiding guilds. The content is coming out too fast. With the AP grind and commitment it takes to get more than a single spec up to par….its killed multiple high ends at this point. I believe 5 at this point have stepped down from the progression race.

With the amount of content in the game if they added another Karazhan like dungeon with the length etc with a quest line they could easily hold out till June/July before releasing a new raid.

The problem is Blizzard always seems to knee jerk and go from one extreme to the other.

First the content was coming out way too slow. Siege of Orgimmar and Hellfire Citadel were beaten to a bloody pulp.

Complaints flooded in about the amount of daily quests in MoP. Then they knee jerked and essentially removed them in WoD.

They can never find a happy middle ground. Its one extreme to the other.

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Sally Bowls

Outside of Japanese playing on Sony consoles, is FF big enough for any competitor to care about that much? While a lot of people play TESO on PC, I thought most were on a console. My guess is next week’s Mass Effect will suck more time of WoW players than TESO or FF.

With the Legion content pace, one expects, prior to Blizzcon, most of: 7.2.5, a 7.3 (Argus) info dump, 7.3 on PTR, 7.3 launch, 7.3 raid. Will at least one of those occur in June? Possibly/probably

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bereman99

It’s more about Blizzard’s track record, which stretches back several years at this point – patches routinely land on or near (usually within a two week window) patch/expansion/launch dates of other MMOs. They even did at a one-time “bonus dungeon currency” event in lieu of a patch that just happened to kick off around the same time as another MMO’s major patch. They always say it’s based on when things are ready on their end and they don’t base it on what the rest of the market is doing, but it’s happened I think close to a dozen times over the years…hard to consider that coincidental that many times.

Doesn’t seem to matter if it’s an MMO with 50k or a few hundred thousand (based on active character data FFXIV falls in this category…best estimates are roughly around 300k world wide right now), Blizzard tends to drop some sort of attention getting something (major or minor) around the launches of other games in the MMO field.

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Wrecktangle

FF has the 2nd largest playerbase out of PC MMOs I believe.

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Sally Bowls

Really? First, TESO is making a lot of positive, for them and MMOers in general, PR. I certainly assumed TESO has quite passed FF. The 2016 Superdata I googled did not have FF in the top 4 (WoW, Linage, Maplestory, B&S).

While FF is a playable-on-PC MMO, I thought I had read some comments that more people play in on console. I assumed that was worldwide and that in the US it might be more PC than console.

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Roger Melly

http://igcritic.com/most-played-mmorpg-games-of-2016/

I had a quick google too this is what I came up with

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Arbs

FF14 is bigger for sure, but like any expansion players numbers drop & rise. I don’t know where FF14 is right now. Just know for Heavensward launch it was around 800k-1M. Stormblood could see the same boost than it falls off. But currently people could be resubbing to get prepared or waiting until June.

Honestly I see zero hype for Morrowind, I feel ESO is more in-line with GW2 player numbers there not tiny or large just in the middle. ESO is really big on console than PC I looked at a post that said 500k for console.

Now ESO does say they have 7 Million accounts, to FF14 5 Million. But again that is accounts not active players.

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Danny Smith

Will Blizzard release its next major patch at the same time as its two most successful competitors releasing an expansion?

You mean like they always do when a new potential player drain comes out?

Will the sun rise tomorrow morning? :p Though honestly i expect a .5 with some big tweak to keep already players playing rather than try and draw new ones away from competition.

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Sray

Call me crazy, but I’m thinking that it’s more likely that Blizzard has a 7.3 patch on deck for June or July to match up against those other releases. It’s probably not as large as other stuff, but releasing something at the start of summer seems like a logical thing to do. So then again, they might just have nothing at all.

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More likely 7.2.5 with some more balance tweaks, minor content adds, and any last bits to get in place for Tomb to be ready for prime time. We will see 7.3 in August if they stick to the pace they have been following so far.

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bereman99

More likely a 7.2.5 or something along those lines – a relatively minor patch that doesn’t do much but at least attempts to keep people’s attention…

That just happens to land sometime between June 19th and June 21st.

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Sally Bowls

Yeah. Although press tour – lots of dev interviews/availabilities/streams throughout the interwebs – probably gets more attention than a patch and does not require syncing up with unpredictable development schedules.

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Bryan Turner

Same old Blizzard, same old Bull Shit tricks, same old drop in sub numbers; but that’s ok they make money on Hearthstone now.

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Bannex

And overwatch and WoW…
Honestly the only thing more pedantic than blizzard’s spin are the haters of said company with zero facts and no reason other than to hate the king.

Dude go find a game you like. Blizz is doing just fine, at least they fund their own games and haven’t gone all ubisoft or EA with microtransactions.

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Roger Melly

I think it is more that people hate what WoW has become . I was there at the start and it was a wonderful game but over the years I saw it watered down to the point I decided it no longer had fun in playing it anymore because it lacked any real challenge outside of a few endgame raids , the battlegrounds and arenas .

I still know people who are playing it from my time in a guild there and they are always getting peeved off at Blizzard for the content droughts and while such delays in new content don’t stop them playing all together many simply unsubscribed until its out now and go and play something else instead .

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Bryan Turner

So I’m not allowed to be pissed that a company went back on its word AGAIN regarding potential content draughts just to stick it to competitors moths down the line? I’ve been jaded by that company one too many times to be fooled into subbing any more than 4 months a year tops and that commentary from Bree just cements it.

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Bannex

If this releases at the end of March or beginning of April will you remain silent and look for something else to be pissed at blizzard? Lol

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Ben Stone

What dtaught? The last raid launched 2 months ago. Hardly a 12 month gap.

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Roger Melly

If this doesn’t release till June wouldn’t that still make it nearly a six month gap ?

To me that seems quite a wait between one lot of new content and the next .

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Castagere Shaikura

I have to agree with this. So sick and tired of the Wow haters on sites like this. They just hate that Wow is still on top and ESO and FF expansions are not going to change that no matter how much you wish it.

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Arbs

FF14 is more 2nd fav MMO & I know it will be a big boost for the game, but it will not change anything.

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Bryan Turner

See my reply above since basically you just parroted the same cheer leader.

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Jeff

I certainly don’t hate the king, I just think they are the king of Esports these days and not much else. I think that ESO/FFXIV has taken most of the MMO Core players Looking at the massive crowds of players in Daggerfall Castle these days reminds me of old Ironforge or Stormwind. And yeah you’re right they do fund their own games, but I don’t know how much longer that can last when they are losing their Diablo/WoW audience steadily.

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Bannex

What are you talking about!? Lol.
Listen I’m not a blizzard fanboy, I’m too old to be a fanboy of anything but I’m guessing you didn’t see their most recent financial report.

Second, fuck e sports.

Third, all of North America plays on one server for eso. I can’t imagine what wow would look like on a mega server…

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Castagere Shaikura

yeah they try so hard to act like this isn’t true.

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Adam Babloyan

You can’t imagine it because you clearly have no idea what a “mega server” is. It’s just your cross-realm servers, ALL cross-realmed. It’s not magic, and it has nothing to do with player count in the end.

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Skai R

Pre download was already up on the live server last week. So it’s in a week or so.

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Justin Olivetti

I’m hearing a lot of buzz that it will be coming in the next week or two, so I think it’s highly unlikely Blizzard would shut down the test server and then sit on it for two months. Last week of March or first week of April.

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Sally Bowls

Plus, they just called the PvP season and the pre-download has already started. So last Tuesday in March, first in April are the best bets.

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CloakingDonkey .

WoW having a shitty content release cycle and Nu-Blizzard only thinking about their share holders?

No! Impossibru! I’m shocked. SHOCKED I tell you :P

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Bannex

Lol the content release cycle for legion has been the best since vanilla. Idk wtf you’re talking about unless…. you don’t play the game!

IMPOSSIBURU!

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CloakingDonkey .

hmmm Last content patch in October. It is now March… New patch not in sight… probably June… that’s 8 months. Best cycle since Vanilla? ok buddy. Guess the release cycle has been shit since Vanilla then :P

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Bannex

Nighthold came out at the end of January but ok buddy…

Oh and 7.2 is in the background downloader patched for release but yeah I’m assuming you don’t play either

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Sally Bowls

Sigh, keep it credible. There is a lot to criticize WoW on, but with the upcoming 7.2, arguably through 7.1.5, Blizzard has already delivered more content than in the entirety of WoD. It is not that uncommon to find bloggers musing whether the new raid is coming too soon. For most, “shitty content release cycle” would not make the top 100 problems with Legion.

Perhaps there are exceptions, but I think the number of billion dollar products from companies not caring about their shareholders is about zero.

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CloakingDonkey .

8 months is shitty in my book. That’s 120€ for a patch… That would have to be a colossal FFXIV style patch… which it won’t be.

Comparing it to WoD is a bit obtuse don’t you think? Why not compare it to an expansion when WoW wasn’t run by dregs, say, Lich King or TBC? Expansion has been out for 7 months. If they wait til June it will be 10 months. By that point in TBC Zul’Aman was just added and in Lich King we had been raiding Trial of the Grand Crusader for a month…

So please… talk about keeping it credible :P

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Ben Stone

As others have said. Latest raid launched 2 months ago. Casual players only just got Guldan in LFR last week.

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medflash

No way they hold out until June. This patch is dropping within a few weeks.

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Utakata

I would imagine that WoW players would become extremely impatient over that prospect. Especially if Blizz remains silent about their intentions and/or obfuscate their reasons for the delay.

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BalsBigBrother

Don’t care I will be playing Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind no matter what else is released /shrugs

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Have fun, enjoy! :D

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Dobablo

MMOs these days are less about being permanently subbed and more about hopping on and off when there is content. TES and FF15 have established player bases. Competing launches won’t capture players from those games.

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Arbs

Both games are also completely different in style.

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deekay_plus

the ol blizz conspires to mess with other games theory eh?

okay.

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Arbs

I know it is silly aint it. Apprently only Blizzard has a mission to ruin other game launches. An it doesn’t fit in their content release schedule at all.

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Rick Mills

Hmmm, The PTR is already a “release candidate” so my bet is within a couple of weeks.
Have they announced the current PvP season end yet?

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Utakata

Yes, I believe they have.

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