Ask Mo: Work progresses on the comment system

Earlier this week, Massively OP reader Sally asked us for an update on what’s changed with the comment system recently. Since then, I’ve been able to put together a solid list of some bits and bobs that we’ve finally knocked off the to-do list. Most of them revolve around things we didn’t like about the native media embedding system. Here’s what’s new down below the bylines.

  • Automatic reply notification just to comments you’ve personally made is in (again). You can turn it off when you post if you really wanna drop a bomb and not ever hear the explosion. :P This may be reverted if we get a lot of pushback about it from people who don’t want to keep turning it off, but we’ve had good feedback from it so far.
  • Video embedding is in, at least from YouTube. Just drop the link straight into a comment, no other effort required. Two minor issues remain: You have to refresh after posting to see it, and it squishes a bit if you’re posting deep into nested comments. (This was originally disabled because it borked up videos in posts, but that has been fixed. Exhibit E down below.)
  • Social embedding is in, including embeds like WordPress post links and tweets and Reddit posts, which will automatically expand if you just drop them into a comment, no code needed. Facebook doesn’t work. This can be spammy if you use too many of them in a single post, so use it sparingly. You will need to refresh after posting to view it properly. (Exhibits B, C, D, and K below.)
  • Multi-link posts with five or fewer links should no longer go straight to the moderation queue. If this gets abused or we get hit with a spam wave, we may need to change it back, but so far, spam has been minimal — this is one of the major benefits of our admittedly complicated account creation system. If you want to post more than five links at a time, post them in replies or drop me a quick note so I can approve you immediately.
  • Single-image uploads should now display properly in comments as scaled-down rather than cropped or uglified versions of the original. This is the thing I’m most proud of y’all. It should primarily help One Shots posters and you meme-junkies as you should no longer need to upload single images externally and link them into comments to force them to display properly without a click. (Exhibit H and J below.)
  • Multi-image comments will still display those images in a gallery, but now you can upload eight per post, and they’re a bit larger than they used to be. (Exhibit G below.)
  • Single-image embeds should now expand without effort just like Twitter and YouTube links. You don’t need IMG tags anymore, so I presume that is why the plugin designer removed it from the comment editor UI. Just pop in the image link and it’ll show up. Boom. Hotlinking like it’s 1999. (Exhibit A down below.)
  • Spoiler code — I think this is new as of a week or two ago when we had a general plugin update. Make sure you “close” the code with [/spoiler]. This is a great way to handle it if you want to dump in a ton of links like so. (Exhibit F down below.)
  • Captchas — I have had one report about captchas in the comments causing weirdness. Here’s the thing: We don’t have captchas in the comments, and in fact we don’t even have that module purchased or installed, but bugs gonna bug! If anything weird like that happens to you, try to record as much info about the issue as you can and send it into us so we can try to track down what is going on there.

What isn’t ready yet that you are likely to care about? Donor badges and the login overhaul. Work continues on both, along with a dozen other things, but those are the most important and next up.

Feel free to break things — I’ve added some examples in the comments already.

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Sylkesh

Very nice work done here! Thanks guys :D

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rafael12104

Coolio! Ok. Here is the real test.

comment image

YUP! It’s all good.

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miol

Awesome! o/

edit: The comment system swallows backslashes “”! XD

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Utakata

Now I’ve test driven the new UI patch for this commenting system, I still have some minor sticking points my pigtails want to see addressed:

1) Ability to delete my own comments long after the editorial option is closed.

2) The ability to see who /upvoted.

3) The ability to remove an /upvote if I’ve had second thoughts or accidently /upvoted a comment.

4) The ability to see folks and my own commenting history when clicking the respective avatars.

5) As well to deal with these two persistent browser based bugs I am having:

a) Can’t post pics option using Internet Explorer.

b) Can’t see my own avatar when using Firefox.

6) The ability to see the edit options when opening up the edit window to re-edit something I posted. They seem to disappear every time I do that.

…I think that’s it for now.

But I do want to as posting image options and links, this commenting system is certainly more than there now. I can’t begin to say how much I appreciate that. And how much that gives the commenting system more character and dynamic liveliness. Thank you for this. /bows

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miol

2)If I left-click on the /upvoted number and leave the mouse cursor on that very position, I can see a list of whom did it. As soon as I move away, it gets hidden back in again.

5b) Even if Adblock allows “graph.facebook.com” avatar pics, it only works for me, if I completely disable Adblock. Maybe it has to do with the notion, that facebook needs the ability to redirect that link into a “scontent.xx.fbcdn.net” link, where the actual image is stored, even though those 2nd type of adresses aren’t blocked either by Adblock.

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Utakata

2) Got that! But it only works for Firefox.

5b) Is there any way I can get Adblock to accept avatars for just Mop?

Thanks for the tips though. :)

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miol

5b) That’s the mystery: Both “graph.facebook.com” & “scontent.xx.fbcdn.net” are already globally allowed by default. They were not even needed to be greenlit as an allowed exception.

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miol

I’ve even tested by manually forcing exception rules, but to no avail:
@@||graph.facebook.com^$domain=massivelyop.com
@@||scontent.xx.fbcdn.net^$domain=massivelyop.com

I can only see facebook avatars when right-clicking “view image”, like yours:
h t t p s://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/c31.12.150.150/541265_115828885217592_589806557_n.jpg?oh=dc8e2e7d60ec5fe58e51b0df689d176c&oe=59516D41

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Utakata

Well…that’s a pain. Because I have browser set to clear history every time I shut if off, it resets all back to blank again after reloading the image.

You know, if IE is know for its carelessness, Firefox should be known for its retentiveness. In the end, both browser have their issues.

But again, thanks for looking into that for me. :)

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Schlag Sweetleaf

Outstanding! Well done, Bree & Co. :)
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rafael12104

All good as long as meme ability remains untouched.

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Neurotic

It’s all good from my perspective, thanks guys!

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Hunam85

It would be nice to be able to customise what I see. I’ve never been a big fan of media in comments threads. Unless I’m missing something?

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kgptzac

Having to manually opt-out the email notification of new replies is a horrible practice. I don’t know what kind of logic is behind having that automatically enabled without user having the ability to turn it off…

Don’t get me wrong, having the option of allowing users to track future replies to a comment is a good feature. It’s a bad thing to automatically check that box. If anything, give me a setting to turn this automatic behavior off.

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kgptzac

Also, there needs to be a way to unsubscribe from threads in THIS COMMENT PAGE. I can only unsubscribe from the email link as of now it seems.

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Jack Pipsam

Keen as a bean.

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BalsBigBrother

This seems like a good time and place to ask this.

Does anyone else have an issue scrolling down pages with their mouse scroll wheel when you come to the MassivelyOP site?

For some reason and it has only started recently I am unable to scroll pages down with the mouse wheel and have to drag the scroll bar thingy (see I know all the tech term) at the side of the article. Yet I can click into another website on a different tab and scroll wheel works, go back to massively and nothing.

Oh yeah using Google Chrome btw

Its a little annoying but not the end of the world but thought I would mention it while we are in this sort of article.

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Jack Pipsam

Nope, scrolling works just fine for me.

Does it work when you press down the middle-mouse button (activating extreme boost scroll mode, another tech term) and you move it around the screen?

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BalsBigBrother

Funny I posted that and in the last hour or so everything has been fine, if I wasn’t wearing my tin foil hat and taking my meds I would get paranoid :-)

Will try extreme boost mode if / when it happens again o7

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Paragon Lost

You aren’t imaging it. Off and on lately I’ve been seeing a bit of that myself as well.

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Sally Bowls

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/bow
TYVM

Small businesses are tough – and TBH a lot tougher if you deal with gamers – but

sometime, when the team is up against it — and the breaks are beating the boys — tell them to go out there” and think of how many lifetimes it would take to get that many functionality upgrades approved and implemented by Oath née AOL.

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Utakata

Testing…

…can I haz cake? <3

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Paragon Lost

Hey! Your profile picture is back! :)

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Utakata

You must be using Firefox. How did you get it to stick?

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Paragon Lost

Chrome currently. I did whitelist MassivelyOp recently across the board. I used to block some things on it since I also do the Patreon as well. But after looking at how much they’re getting from the Patreon I decided to kick in more by whitelisting as well.

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Xijit

Hummm

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Utakata

This…and a million times! <3

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Nordavind

Good work on everything! However, I’d like the notify to be auto off. Opt in is almost always better than opt out.

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Paragon Lost

Normally I’m with you with the “opt in” frame of mind. Not with posting here though, it’s one of the few places that when I post here I am opting in, in my mind. I don’t like that I have to keep clicking the “notify me of new replies” to each and every post I make.

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Nordavind

And I don’t like keep unchecking it every time I make a post (I have no interest in the notifications).

Soooo, how about a local setting in the cookies for each user?

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Paragon Lost

Actually that would be the best set up of all and my preference as well. That’s how I had it before with the previous system. I set it and forgot it until I did my every couple week system clean up and then had to relog in. :)

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Sashaa

This.

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agemyth 😩

Good work! Youtube embeds at last.

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ceder

Seeing who liked a post more visibly/readily like the old system.

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Greaterdivinity

Looks like that’s re-enabled (I know it was disabled for a bit). Just takes a second after mousing over the # next to the thumbs up for the list to pop up.

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Serrenity

This – I like knowing who enjoys my comments (if anyone heh)

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agemyth 😩

If you mouse over the number of likes it should tell you who clicked it. Doesn’t seem to be loading for me right now though.

Nevermind, it is working after a few seconds now.

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Automatic reply notification is the devil. I don’t want that by default!

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Greaterdivinity

Noticed some of the changes you’ve listed already (and they’re nice, especially leaving email notification by default!) and it’s good stuff. For a last minute comments system, this it’s turning out to be pretty nice : )

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BalsBigBrother

Um MOP you seem to have been hit by a spam bot by the name of Bree Royce who is posting all sorts of random things in this article.

Thor drops the BANHAMMER!

Ah so that explain all those emails I got suddenly telling me about replies.
*adds post it note to side of monitor to unclick the ticky when posting on Massively.*

Good stuff and coming along nicely, thank you for the update :-)

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Utakata

*Pigtails imagines Bree doing that when ever the topic of “diversity” comes up in the articles*

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Leiloni

Looks like some nice changes are in. I noticed the auto notification thing already.

Sidenote – Is MJ going to do an article about today’s SWL livestream? It’s a slow Friday and I’m unmotivated so I really just wanna read/chat about TSW/SWL. :(

Also the comment system won’t let me make colon + backslash faces. Is that fixable?

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Greaterdivinity

: /

Try putting a space between them. I’ve just kinda defaulted to doing that with all my little colon faces due to similar issues elsewhere in the past.

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Utakata

My…

:( :) >: or <3

…don't really need spaces though. o.O

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Leiloni

It seems that anytime I use backslash in any context it doesn’t work. You used forward slash which it seems is ok.

:/

I think the problem is that this comment system uses some code for things like quotes, bold, etc. so it thinks you’re writing a code for something when you use backslash so it doesn’t show up.

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TheDonDude

Personally I vote email notification being off by default.

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Leiloni

Yea I’m not sure if I like it or not. I remember with the last comment system I had to turn it off because the email spam was just outrageous.

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Greaterdivinity

Well, with the last system it would tag everyone in a response chain by default, so if a discussion you were engaged in dragged on for a while and nobody removed your username, you’d get the fun spam.

This only works with direct replies to your post, so there should be considerably less email spam compared to the old system.

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BalsBigBrother

I probably post too much so yeah I am spamming myself really hehe

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TheDonDude

For the last comment system I had turned off all email notification. In a perfect world it’d save everyone’s preference, but that probably isn’t easy to do.

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