The Daily Grind: Which MMORPG most deserves a sequel?

I was writing a post earlier this week with a pair of screenshots labeled sequentially — “eso1.jpg” and “eso2.jpg” — which mentally startled me because, you know, Elder Scrolls Online II doesn’t exist. And it struck me that out of the core AAA MMORPGs — and even the big up-and-coming crowdfunded indies — only a tiny handful are sequels. Maybe more importantly, none of the major MMOs right now has given any hint that a sequel might be incoming, which you might consider a sobering thought or a relief that studios are leaning toward supporting what they’ve got instead of splitting their playerbases.

Put aside what’s been rumored (or not rumored) and tell us: Which MMORPG do you think deserves a sequel?

Every morning, the Massively Overpowered writers team up with mascot Mo to ask MMORPG players pointed questions about the massively multiplayer online roleplaying genre. Grab a mug of your preferred beverage and take a stab at answering the question posed in today’s Daily Grind!
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Cyro-Nydd

There are 3 I’d love to see again in updated engines, UI and other goodies:
Meridian 59,
Vanguard,
Fallen Earth.

I feel like Vanguard’s diplomacy minigame remains utterly unique to the genre, and Fallen Earth has what continues to be my favorite crafting system.

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Andrew Ross

Of course I’m going to say Asheron’s Call, but lemme throw ya’ll a curve ball: Horizons/Istaria! It was a fun PvE sandbox at launch with an above average crafting system, good economy, player events, live GMs, server-wide unlockable content, flying dragons as a playable race if you’re into that… it just had boring combat. A second round might be nice.

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Datom

Wish that Phantasy Star Online 2 would come west/ to current consoles. Many good memories of the first on the Dreamcast.

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Malcolm Swoboda

Not that I have trust in Trion for it, or that I think it is where it should be to be ‘done’ yet (I think there’s at least a couple expansions that could go), but part of me wants a RIFT 2. Aside from its disjointed and too silly elements, I think RIFT has a significantly better identity now/recently than originally. Again, still stitched together from other stuff and still with seriousness out the window, but its something.

TSW Season 2 go. (same game tho)

GW3 can happen after dragons are dealt with, and that’s years away but hopefully its something in plans.

I might love a SW MMO that keeps a narrative importance AND incorporates user-friendly sandbox importance.

Something multiplayer and new Warcraft can happen some day and I’d be open to hearing about it.

Aion 2 if it kept a lot of recap of the previous Aion, as well as nostalgic soundtracks etc included in it. I’ll never get into Aion but it keeps having parts that make me wish I would be able to bear it.

As it is, I have no big call to have a direct MMORPG sequel, but some are close, others are within sight (2020s).

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Zen Dadaist

Now Anarchy Online is confirmed on maintenence mode and will no longer be getting any attention from FC (check out the current crop of exploits running rampant if you need proof), for the first time I’ll actually say I want to see an AO2.

I’d always have preferred to keep AO1 but with more development instead of going for a sequel. But now, well, here we are. Except it won’t ever happen. Not even a CE or SWL type clone (not that either of those two would itnerest me).

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Vunak

FFXI, GW1, Lineage 1 and 2, EQ, Vanguard, SWG, CoX, tabula rasa

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Melissa McDonald

EverQuest (standing on hillside playing “Amazing Grace” on bagpipes and wiping away tears)

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draugris

Warhammer Online please

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George

Warhammer Online

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Necromonger

I want something totaly new instead of the same old same old :P

A completly new IP with a living breathing world without pay to win and generic contend.

A mix between WoW / Archeage / GW2 / Eve Online with the best features of these mmo’s combined all stuffed into a brand new epic engine.

Maybe one day…..

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Ken from Chicago

If we’re going for something totally new instead of the same old same old, how about an mmo that’s NOT the bazillionth fantasy-based one?

A western MMO set in South America or Australia or Canada?

A far future where minds are uploaded to a digital cloud allowing you to inhabit virtual worlds of your own making or sharing it with others or interact with meatspace using drones that can be sent across the galaxy to explain the digital network into deep space?

An alternate history MMO where 90% of Native American nations were not wiped out by a massive plague, so they had the numbers to prevent Europeans from taking over but lead to a more integrated settling amongst the various competing nations?

Maybe instead of western colonization being the major arc, but building of a transcontinental railroad where competing local nations supported it as means of great wealth, travel and independence while others would oppose it as a potential threat?

Or maybe a Roman mmo about the building of the Appian Way, the Roman road system that spanned across the Roman Empire.

Or a not so far future where Earth is devastated by pollution, radiation, warfare, so (almost) of the survivors flee on generation starships to a new star system with multiple words that they’ve terraformed to varying degrees. The center worlds being the easiest or most Earth-like and thus gaining most of the survivors with some colonizing on outer worlds with harsher realms but greater freedom. Naturally, for the sake of order, the inner worlds with great population, wealth and tech would seek to … unify … the system causing conflict from the outer worlds that want independence leading to some kind of … unification war … where you could pick a side, or being among those supplying either side or among those who want no part of the conflict and only want … serenity.

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Cyro-Nydd

A low-G world like Larry Niven’s Smoke Ring would be super cool, I’ve a soft spot for lost colony stories, and on that note, a steampunk/AG universe set up like the anime series Last Exile, or the graphic novel Keepers of the Maser would make me giddy!

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Tiresias

Dungeons and Dragons is long overdue for an MMO sequel.

No, Neverwinter doesn’t count. Neverwinter is not a D&D game, and it would have been better off as an original IP.

I’d love to see an action MMO of D&D done right using 5th edition rules as an inspiration. All of the classes — even spellcasters — make sense in an MMO under that ruleset, right down to having a limited number of very powerful spells that you get to use in a set period of time, with cantrips filling in the space between.

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James Mock

Neverwinter certainly has some really fun components to it, but if it didn’t specifically mention D&D in the title I would have no idea. If I could play a D&D game that incorporated all the classes and races I would be super happy.

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Space Captain Zor

Tabula Rasa!

sorry… lol

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Fisty

Either a new Star Wars or new Dungeons and Dragons. Two IP’s that should always keep their numbers up.

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mcsleaz

Any new Star Wars MMO needs to be handled by a studio that doesn’t exist right now.

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Fisty

At least none that has ever touched it before.

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Tamanous

I wonder how exclusive the EA contract is with Disney on Star Wars games. If EA is the only option for a Star Wars mmorpg … then hell no!

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Sally Bowls

Decade-long exclusive for non-mobile games.

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Fisty

I thought it was a publishing license, but the dev’s could be a decent developer they chose. I dunno. I agree, if they’re too involved, probs not a good idea.

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TBPlayer2112

I wish Everquest III was still a thing. =/

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Eric Campbell

Galaxies. Star Wars friggin’ Galaxies

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David Harrison

Everquest. Everquest II is not a sequel to Everquest. It took Everquest in a different direction.

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parratich

I just want to be Uncle Owen in a star wars MMO…. again.

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Tamanous

Quasi is the word of the day so (I connect some of these loosely):

EQ/Vanguard quasi sequel: Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
Daoc quasi sequel: Camelot Unchained
UO quasi sequel: Seems to be a minor trend to 2D mmos so pick one that doesn’t suck.
Asheron’s Call quasi sequel: Project Gorgon
Shadowbane quasi sequel: Crowfall
City of X quasi sequels: Lost count of how many are in the works. Hopefully one launches.
Real Wow quasi sequel: Emulators (tehe)

I know there is an indie SWG style mmo sort of in the works (on and off and on) but let’s be real … Star Wars has to be Star Wars. Anarchy Online has nothing as well so I’d have to go with a new SWG type Star Wars game or a true Anarchy Online sequel. Both are massive world(s) games and I could only see the new seamless mmo engines being able to make them.

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wakkander

Asheron’s Call

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Cervator

Ultima Online for sure. First ever MMO I played. And it did nearly happen, with a really nice story concept.

IMHO SOTA doesn’t come close to what that might have been, not to mention if UO2 had happened long ago it might still have been something special at the time. Nowadays? Lots of niches getting filled. Still to see if any / a lot of them go somewhere truly interesting, but it is so much harder to stand out today.

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Chris Brown-DeMoreno

FFXI-2 ; -;

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Koshelkin

20 different people, 20 different answers.

Age of Conan 2.

But most of all I want innovation not necessarily sequels.

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Morgan

ttly! 2008 was its initial release date and im sure Funcom has learned so much since then (one can hope) and technology has improved etc. I just wish that game wasnt for such a niche audience.

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Arnold Hendrick

EverQuest III is needed. If only the rights were available for a song…

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Alex Willis

LOTRO (which would be more of a “reboot” than a sequel) and SWG. Neither will happen, but one can dream.

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starbuck1771

You never thought of a prequel based off there and back again, The lore of the franchise such as the ring war, or of the Silmarilian? You do realize the lore of Middle Earth can produce heaps of content for MMO’s.

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Alex Willis

Of course I’ve thought about it, but the IP Overlords have stated time and again their lack of interest in developing content based on those periods. There are tight restrictions on licensees and in most cases they are limited to LOTR-only. Obviously I’d be pleased to see a First or Second Age-era MMO, but I highly doubt it will be forthcoming.

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Vincent Clark

Agree on LOTRO, but please…some other company besides SSG/Turbine. And make it sub only :)

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starbuck1771

I generally agree however the Sub only part is an issue. Subscriptions are clearly becoming a thing of the past and for good reason. Subs only draw in a small amount of money which was acceptable in the golden age of MMO’s, However to continue to get money they now use F2P with Stores to draw in a lot of money which is needed for content updates, expansions, and the such. Subs back in the day you were luck to get content updates once a year not to mention the gaps between expansions.

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Vincent Clark

FFXIV and it’s millions of subscribers would disagree with you. I agree it’s a rarity, but in the hands of the right company, a sub only model clearly works.

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starbuck1771

However Lord of the Rings doesn’t have a huge following like Final Fantasy in Asia.

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Vincent Clark

While that may be true, it has little to do with the point. It doesn’t matter how huge of a following a game has, if Square Enix didn’t kick out consistent, quality content on a regular basis it wouldn’t have the numbers it has today. One can never say that FFXIV is resting on it’s laurels. LotRO on the other hand…

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smulb

DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS ONLINE II

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MeltWithYou

Return to Castle Wolfenstein – Enemy Territory

I fkn loved that game (back in the day), as bare bones as it was

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Alex Js.

Well, that’s not exactly an MMORPG…

But yea, RtCW’s (including ET) multiplayer was mad fun, probably the most fun I’ve had from any multiplayer game, console or PC. Unfortunately almost nobody (except EA) bothers to make high-player-count multiplayer FPS games anymore, it’s all about boring + very stressful “5-player competitive” stuff today…

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Bullwraith

Shadowbane.

And no, Crowfall ain’t it. CF is a different game entirely.

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cambruin

Most definately! That game was awesome and puts any other ‘pvp-centric’ MMO to shame. And that character customization… dear Lord, no other MMO comes close.

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Coolit

Probably controversial however I’d like to see a RiFT II if Trion didn’t do any of the P2W or f2p crap.

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camren_rooke

I like Rifts. A lot. Wouldn’t mind a Rift 2 at all.

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Tamanous

Please note “Rifts” is a different product from “Rift”.

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Alex Willis

Golly I would like to see a RIFTS MMO though. GLITTER BOYS!

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Tamanous

I agree. Nearly impossible project however due to the insane amount of content. I played Rifts hardcore back in the day with our core RPG group.

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Paragon Lost

Everquest Next.

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michalmichal

A real Guild Wars 1 sequel :P
I’d love to see an updated Saga of Ryzom.

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Paragon Lost

Star Wars.

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FreecczLaw

Which one?

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Paragon Lost

SWG, not the quasi mmorpg SWTOR.

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Darthbawl

Either a sequel or an updated/modernized Asheron’s Call 2. I would also accept a full source code release of AC2 well.

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Dividion

Asheron’s Call w/ VR support. Zojak Quaguz!

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camren_rooke

Oh no you didn’t!

Zojak Quareth!

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Alex Malone

Warhammer: Age of Reckoning.

It’s a fantastic IP and the original concepts for the game were great, they just botched far too much stuff for it to be successful. For some reason, that seems very common with most Games Workshop games – great concepts and IP, but shoddy implementation.

LotRO

So, the current game is now reaching Mordor and the conclusion of the War of the Ring. A sequel couldn’t really be done in the same time period, plus I think the license holder wouldn’t let them anyway. So, if there was a second game, I would probably aim for a different time period, probably hundreds / thousands of years before. That way you can still see some of the familiar sites of Middle Earth, but the devs would have more creative license. The fantasy races could have a larger role, would be awesome if we could have multiple factions rather than being restricted to the good guys, and I’d love some wider-scale world pvp.

SWG

Star Wars is simply a classic and the universe in general is just so full of potential. I’d love to go back to a sandbox philosophy, but have more content to play through and better player housing / pvp objective stuff. My secret hope is that this is already in development somewhere, to be released before the current cycle of Star Wars films finishes.

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cambruin

LotRO 2.0 would be awesome, but not by the hands of Turbine/SSG.

They’re simply out of touch, unqualified to run such a massive IP. World design is still great, the lore-junkies still on top of their game, but the actual game design? Shameful. At best.

Furthermore, I don’t know whether LotRO could hold it’s own in today’s world. I loved Middle Earth, but it’s stale, rigid even. Now let’s look at other ‘epic’ IPs, the likes of Game of Thrones, Warcraft, Elder Scrolls, … Middle had appeal due to it being ‘the best’ of it’s kind period. Today? I’m not so sure of it.

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Utakata

WoW 2, City of Heroes 2, GW3…

…but this is the case of what I want to see sequels of, versus, “That will unlikely happen”. :(

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Zander

I’ll be the 10th person to say Anarchy Online. While the combat wasn’t to most exciting, it did graphics, class composition and many other pioneering/honing mechanics that we see repeated in games today. There is just an unexplainable metaphysical beauty about the game you can’t relive.

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johnwillo

I would want to see a WoW 2, with modern technologies and reset to the point where the first WoW began, or some other time in Azeroth’s history. Just because it was my first MMO, and I spent a decade there. But there is no way that Blizzard is going to properly fund a AAA reset of WoW, especially since they can just keep duct-taping new expansions to the current game and pulling in cash. I think that they see their future as Overwatch; WoW is out to pasture, to be milked until it dies.

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Malcolm Swoboda

I think WoW is to be milked over multiple more expansions, but I don’t think Warcraft is something anywhere near abandonment.

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Jay Madison

Here is another vote for Anarchy Online.

But not created or managed by Funcom.

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Utakata

Wait, you don’t want Anarchy Online Legends or Anarchy Exiles? o.O

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Nathaniel Downes

Age of Anarchy Exiled Legends Online!!!

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Utakata

…which is the short form for Age of Anarchy Exiled Legends Lego Minifigures Online! O.o

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A Dad Supreme

Vanguard: Saga Of Heroes II

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Oleg Chebeneev

Pantheon might take this niche

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talaen

A spiritual successor to SWG would be pretty awesome. It doesn’t have to be star wars themed, but it should incorporate most of the concepts that made the original game all about building player community and not just about chasing content. That said – it should probably have more adventure aspect to it… you know, so that there’s more for the player community to go and do together. Bonus if it has really great space combat gameplay.

I’d also love to see a Vanguard sequel, or rather, Vanguard with the world actually fully developed, the content polished, and the graphics and animations updated just a tad. They could reuse the IP, that’d be fine.

Like a lot of other people, +1 for an Anarchy Online sequel.

Finally I’ll be weird and say I’d like to see an EVE Online 2. I had the most fun in EVE back when it wasn’t all about capital fleets, citadels, and giant player alliances. I think with 14 years of experience to learn from, CCP could probably redesign their game to avoid some of the pitfalls that unbalance the current game and that have driven players away over the years, and the result would likely be really good.

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Ken from Chicago

WHAT?! Everyone knows CITY OF HEROES called dibs on “spiritual successors”! ;-)

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Tobasco da Gama

Anarchy Online, no doubt about it.

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AO2 made by Red Thread Games (obviously not happening, but still)

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Ben Stone

Everquest or Vanguard

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Schmidt.Capela

Guild Wars. The current GW2 has little to do with the original except for the setting, and I consider the original to be a better game.

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Zander

Being a daily GW2 player, I hear this a lot. I’ve even seen GW2 players go back to GW1 for the Hall of Monuments unlocks only to come back to GW2 and basically quit because they thought GW1 was a better experience.

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Oleg Chebeneev

I dig Anarchy Online sequel. Never seriously played it, only briefly tried. But I love Rubi-ka setting and twinking opportunities. Would be nice to see it with graphics of Bioware’s Anthem.

2 other MMOs Id love to see remakes/sequels of: Neocron and Face of Mankind. I absolutely love lore and cyberpunk setting of Neocron. And I loved uniqueness and roleplay possibilities of FoM.

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Polyanna

Another vote for Anarchy Online. Done by anyone but Funcom.

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My first response is “Ultima Online, duh”. Shroud of the Avatar is sorta kinda but not-really UO2; I’d like to see the real deal before I die.

Fallen Earth would be fun to revitalize, and I always felt that Wurm was on the brink of something truly wonderful.

I’d camp out for City of Heroes 2, if the revenue model for it wasn’t too onerous.

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Nathaniel Downes

I have to say……

Anarchy Online.

(you expected me to say City of Heroes didn’t you? I feel it has enough sequels under development as it is)

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camren_rooke

Yes, it does.

/e taps foot impatiently with arms crossed.

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Rhime

SWG! Somebody make it happen!:)

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