Destiny 2’s PS4 exclusives won’t arrive on Xbone and PC until 2018

If the fact that Destiny 2’s PC edition is being held back seven weeks following the release of the console versions sticks in your craw, then you probably don’t want to read the rest of this post.

In its attempt to give PC players a paper cut and pour lemon juice in it, Bungie confirmed on Twitter that several PlayStation 4 exclusives won’t hit computers (or Xbox One) until 2018. These exclusives include the Lake of Shadows strike, Terra Concord Titan armor, Tesseract Trace IV Warlock armor, Icarus Drifter Hunter armor, the City Apex ship, the Borealis rifle, and the Retribution PvP map.

PC and Xbone players can see what they’ll be missing out on this year after the break.

Source: Twitter via RPS
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Valen Sinclair
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Valen Sinclair

That’s okay, I’ll stick with Anthem.

Tamanous
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Tamanous

So people call it XBONE … *cringe*. This means the new version is XBONEX?

Some Korean gamer is going to be really pissed Microsoft stole his name.

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koolthulu

I was actually looking forward to this game, but the more details come out about the PC version the more “meh” I’m getting on it. Guess I’ll give it until 2018 to see if it is worth a buy.

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Jack Pipsam

Same thing Xbox players had to deal with the first Destiny.

Sony paying hard $$$, remember while the PS4 is a massive success (60+ million units), Sony as a corporation is in dire straights. They’re desperate because PlayStation is their only profitable brand right now.

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ordegar

Does the PS4 version work with keyboard/mouse? If not, then I’ll be sticking with my PC exclusive feature tyvm.

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A Dad Supreme

It’s official.

X-Boned.

Yangers
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Yangers

I love how you keep referring to it as xbone in the title.

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kgptzac

I think this game, like all online games on PC, will fumble on the PC upon launch, and will be a shit hit the fan moment because of this statement from the devs.

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Tiresias

Exclusives are terrible, and companies should stop taking money in return for them. I know that’s a BIG ASK, but they burn an awful lot of goodwill when they do so. They may as well put out a statement that literally says “We care more about making money than HOW we make that money.”

That’s a bad image to project when you are building games that are meant to be enjoyed by a large cross-section of the populace.

There is this logically fallacy that exclusive content dramatically alters the buying decisions of potential players, but I’ve seen no market research to back that up. Anecdotally, I’m playing the game on the PC because I prefer the input scheme, and I would be a lot of PC players will feel the same way. I even own a PS 4 Pro, and there is no amount of exclusive content that will change my mind about that decision.

There IS an amount of exclusive content that will just convince me to not buy the game until the content is available (and likely cheaper) or not buy the game at all. Right now, Bungie is riding on that line with a strike being unavailable. Cosmetic-only exclusives are annoying but tolerable; locking out gameplay content is INFURIATING.

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Sally Bowls

I am not a consoler. so was surprised when the Microsoft head responded to a question with something like meh, the core market owns both consoles. So for a lot of people, these deals are more about which platform to buy on rather than whether to buy.

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Jack Pipsam

Xbox is just a part of Microsoft. Without it Microsoft would largely be the same and not be hurt too much.

PlayStation is everything to Sony right now.

Because of this Xbox has the advantage of being able to win people over slowly with stuff like backwards compatibility, cross-play and the like at no great pace. While Sony is paying hard cash because they cannot afford to lose PS4’s dominance.

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Rees Racer

What?…No gender-locking of characters, too? That’s what I call a half-assed attempt at content restriction!

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Drainage

Pound that drum.

So, PS4 users receive a couple of extra items and this is reason to rebel?

Master race, should console players complain about having basically no MMO selection for decades?

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Geoffrey Smith

The problem is in the logic of it. If these are just superfluous fluff, then why would anyone, anywhere, pay for it to be exclusive for a limited length of time? And if it is useful, why would you expect people to buy an inferior product for the same price?

The reality is the console timed exclusive deals like these are all about being a proxy in the console war between Sony and Microsoft, which I have little desire to be apart of.

And as was pointed out, the lack of console MMO’s for long periods of time was due to technical reasons, specifically related to the lack of networking infrastructure and the domains the makers had on them. But I am not entirely sure what that has to do with these timed exclusivity deals…

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rafael12104

Heh. Why would I or anyone pay premium for a lesser product or service than some other group is getting? Why would I spend on a product or service in which I am not the priority?

Hell, yeah, I got a drum set.

Console players can play their own does matter and it isn’t even relevant.

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Drainage

2104 – mercy sakes alive. You folks are acting as if Bungie is keeping half of the game away from PC.

I’m no corporate apologist, just wonder how a scam makes you feel, if Destiny makes you this hot.

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rafael12104

Nope. I’m saying that I wont drop 60 bucks and not get the value that other gamers are getting. I’d rather keep the money, go elsewhere and get the value.

It is stupid for Bungie to agree to this. 7 weeks, that is how long it will have been since the game has launched before the PC port drops, and that is if there are no delays. Do you really think, that at that point PCs would be cannibalizing PS4 sales?

And instead of nurturing and entire new player base, a player base who thrives on shooters and MMOs, they just make it clear that PCs are secondary? LOL!

Keep your Destiny 2, Bungee. I have other options.

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Drainage

Bungie has a bad history with Microsoft, I was surprised the game wasn’t a PS4 exclusive.

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Jack Kerras

That was largely a technological concern. It was very, very difficult to do PS3/XBox MMORPGs, so few did. This is largely because Sony’s and Microsoft’s smoke test and QA process is expensive and lengthy, which means that hotfixing scary issues is very easy on PC and -very- difficult on the major consoles.

For many years, you could do MMOs on PC -at all-, and couldn’t do so on consoles whatsoever, so the way that MMORPGs work in general evolved purely with the PC in mind.

Also: absolutely they should, and I hope that more MMOs go to consoles now that consoles are far enough along to make them work. What I don’t think is that they should go for full platform parity; using PC as a testbed for new patches and then rolling out to consoles as soon as the worst of the glaring issues and gaping holes are patched up is basically a great idea, Warframe’s been doing it to very good effect on PS4.

The ‘PS4 users get extra things’ doesn’t matter. I couldn’t give less of a fuck. The thing is that console choices will not be made or broken by this; it’s not Bloodborne, it’s not Halo, it’s not Uncharted, it’s not a -reason- for someone to pick a console and purchase it. That’s not a thing with timed exclusives like this; the real shit is that there’s content which is clearly built, and the majority of extant consoles (considering PCs) don’t get to interact with it whatsoever for a year for pretty much no reason at all.

I’d be curious to see how much actual money happens here; I’m interested in the difference between Sony’s outlay->Sony’s gain post-exclusive and Sony’s lack of outlay -> Sony’s gain with full parity. I’m willing to bet they coughed up more than they made in extra sales due to exclusivity… but since there’s no fucking way to prove it, this stupid bullshit continues to happen for as long as console exclusivity is moored to games which are -clearly- going to sell a bazillion copies.

I don’t think it does anything for them. I’m sure they THINK it does, but major corporations, when taken as a gestalt, do a lot of stupendously idiotic things. They’d make a fucking boatload of money on Destiny with or without exclusives, and fueling a basically-no-longer-relevant console war is not helping anyone. It’s old shit. It’s just a habit from the way-back. Shrug off that baggage already, you fucking vacuous corporate suckbags, they’re all supercomputers now anyway.

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Drainage

Don’t buy the corporate overlord product, I guess…

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Armsbend

There is no drum to pound. It is their job to get us as customers not the other way around. I could not care any less if Bungie succeeds or fails. It is only becoming interesting as a marketing blooper reel right now – so for that I’ll stick around to see what happens.

I’d like to play this game. If they want to continue nonsense – it is on them not on us.

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Drainage

Armbend, I just think you guys need to find another windmill to tilt. Rage over a dungeon and some lame gear. Come on.

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Armsbend

Knowing the game now has apologists is stoking my fire for wanting it to fail – truth be told. I haven’t truly hated on something in quite some time – politics aside. You have inspired me a bit.

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Drainage

I’m a contrarian, Activision doesn’t need my help.

However, someone out there is raging about Destiny 2 exclusives while buying OW lockboxes. Maybe they will hide Destiny dungeons in OW lockboxes!

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rafael12104

Lol. Gave Bungie the benefit of the doubt before. But I guess it was naivety.

FO, Bungie and Sony. I choose where to spend my coin and it won’t be on Destiny. PC gamers in particular would have been a loyal cash cow, but not this way. I’ll wait for Anthem or play Mario-Rabbids, or play one of a number of MMMos or do nothing before I play Destiny 2.

Destiny 2 and Sony, you aren’t that good.

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Nick

Anthem is a non-issue, Destiny 2 will have been out for more than a year before Anthem comes out, and that’s if they don’t hit any delays.

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rafael12104

Doesn’t matter. I think you see my point.

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Armsbend

If Bungie feels like it is their job to annoy potential PC customers with their newsfeeds they are really succeeding. Keep it up and I’ll easily forget about the title and be none the worse. Life will not change with Destiny 2 not in it.

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NeoWolf

I enjoyed Destiny on the P4, and admitedly pre order incentives tend to affect whether I’ll pre order or not.. but in this instance I’m just not prepared to get locked into an 30fps experience for pre order incentives when I can get a 60fps experience on the PC.

Still Anthem may make all this moot anyway hehe

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Nick

I kept thinking about that too until I realized Anthem is more than a year away, and that’s if they keep to their original release date. I seriously doubt it will come out even sooner. Destiny 2 will probably already have a huge content update under its belt by that time.

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NeoWolf

I wasn’t really referring to their releases but more in terms of having my interest. Destiny was great and i’ve enjoyed my years with it but D2 isn’t really promising earth shatteringly new.

I was super excited for Destiny but Destiny 2 just hasn’t grabbed me the same way but Anthem has. I may well wait until post release for D2 and see what the reviews and Twitch streams are like before deciding to jump in this time or not.

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Jack Kerras

Why would you people fucking advertise this?

This makes me insane. What possible benefit is there to locking content from other consoles? How is ‘you get stuff that other people don’t for some reason which is completely beyond your control’ any kind of bonus? Folks with an XBox or a PC aren’t going to buy a PS4 just to get a gun that swaps elements and an extra strike to grind through fifty times.

This isn’t effective advertising in any way. It’s bullshit corporate circle-jerking at best.

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abyssalstar

The benefit is the truckload of money Sony gave to Activision to have these year-long exclusives.

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Jack Kerras

Not going back far enough. I don’t think SONY gets any benefit from this. I think they’re doing it out of habit, and because it’s ‘what you do’, not because it actually makes them real money. The difference in sales would be minimal; folks with an XBox are gonna buy Destiny, not Destiny AND a PS4.

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Armsbend

I think the anti-marketing team picked this one up. It is if they are letting us know that disappointment is sure to follow this title.

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Greaterdivinity

What possible benefit is there to locking content from other consoles?

Sony gets timed exclusive content to make purchasing Destiny 2 on their console a more attractive offer than PC/Xbox One, and Activision at the very least gets big marketing support from Sony channels for the game as well as potentially some solid cash money (that’s not necessarily guaranteed, this could simply be a major co-marketing deal).

It’s not a benefit for consumers, but when it comes to the business end of things the decisions rare are.

This isn’t effective advertising in any way. It’s bullshit corporate circle-jerking at best.

You’d be surprised how successful these kinds of partnerships are. There’s a reason that we continue to see stuff like this on both platform from various publishers.

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Jack Kerras

I know. I understand from an academic standpoint that this shit functions, I just don’t… understand.

Watching people vote against their own fucking interests day in and day out is incredibly frustrating. :|

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Greaterdivinity

Who’s “voting” for this? Consumers have no control, nor do media. This is a pure business decision. Yeah, some Sony fanboys/girls will likely be shitty about it to non-PS4 gamers, but fanboys/girls gonna fan.

I hear you on it being frustrating from the consumer though. I’m not terribly thrilled with it by any means, but sadly there’s nothing that can really be done with about it : /

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Jack Kerras

I mean, selling zero copies of Destiny 2 on PS4, even just for a day, would do it. No one thinks they have a vote, but everyone does… annoyingly, the way to vote is ‘don’t play Destiny’, which plenty of people are doing BECAUSE of this issue.

Folks with PS4s are just gonna buy the fucking thing for that, it’s simple enough, but in a choice between ‘shitty console experience’ and ‘wonderful 1080ti-powered gaming rig experience’, absolutely nothing is going to make me buy on PS4 over my platform of choice.

Still. Console exclusivity will continue to be regarded as a thing that is ‘working’ because of high-volume sales, but, like… those things aren’t DRIVEN by console exclusivity. People who are on the fence about a game and already own a PS4 aren’t going to buy it just because they get bonuses. Bazillions of people buy Destiny, but waaaay back when they had no idea if it’d sell worth a damn or not, they made this deal in hopes it would… help? And then the fact that Destiny is a good game makes it look like a success, despite the fact that it’s fucking meaningless and does nothing but punish people for an irrelevant and unrelated hardware choice.

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Drainage

Jack, do you have data showing the relationship is meaningless? They obviously opted for round 2.

Punish is the gaming word for the 2010s!

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Geoffrey Smith

And that’s why I am happy to skip this now. It’s not like they don’t have a slew of competitors I can play anyway.

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Nick

How many PvE online shooters are there? Warframe is alright I guess.

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Arktouros

Honestly I can’t think of many gamers who are really all that exclusive anymore when you get down to it. Sure I like a good MMO and I’m always a fan of a PvE Shooter but it’s not like when an PVE Shooter goes exclusive on me I’m suddenly without any games to play what so ever.

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Armsbend

The game they copied – Warframe.

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Geoffrey Smith

Also The Division, which is in a much better place now than it was.

I’d throw any of the Borderlands games in here too if you are feeling saucy.

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Drainage

Destiny copied the Division? A company that has been making FPS games over 15 years?

Warframe? lulz

Reaching.

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Nick

I played Warframe quite a bit. I don’t like how its not as open and afaik doesn’t have any kind of ‘random zone’ matchmaker. If I want to do a pick up I have to just pick places randomly to check or try one of the events. Also the way gear and upgrades are acquired isn’t nearly as straight forward. Although this might be on purpose to make the cash shop more enticing.

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Armsbend

Pretty much. I always saw Destiny as Bungie trying to be Blizzard. They found an indie hit in a genre they were really good at and made it better with Activision money. Nothing wrong with that mind you it’s just how it is.

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Arktouros

The console exclusivity bullshit finally makes it’s way to the PC. It’s the number one reason I refuse to buy consoles and have extreme dislike for companies like Oculus for creating the same in the nascent VR market as well. I was pretty excited for this one as I wanted to play Destiny 1 but it wasn’t on the PC. However timed exclusives like this are just awful and I’ve lost a great deal of interest at this point now.

I understand devs want their guaranteed paid days upfront so deals like this are tempting but as a gamer it puts me right off the game entirely. You want to take Sony’s money, that’s fair, but why should you get mine then too after punishing me for playing on the “wrong” system?

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Drainage

You are being severely punished! Master race!

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Arktouros

While taking my argument to the level of hyperbole would be convenient for a counter argument of “over-reaction” it’s really just not the case here. The facts of this scenario is I’m paying $60 for a product, a PS4 player is paying $60 for a product, and because the game company took money from the PS4 people a chunk of the game is unplayable to me as a non-PS4 user. Same price, less of the same product with the only reasoning being I’m not playing on the “right” platform.

If Console exclusivity gets a grip in PC gaming it’s going to be a shit show. For example Arizona Sunshine (VR title) initially launched with a whole level/game mode that was only accessible with a certain processor model. Imagine DLC locked off unless you have a nVidia card or exclusive game characters/weapons only if you’re running an AMD processor. I really did want to check out Destiny 1 and was pretty excited for Destiny 2 but fundamentally the only voice I have that matters is my wallet and if I let this one slide I’ll have done my part in letting game designers know that these kinds of practices are okay.

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Michael18

Doesn’t affect me personally, in this case.
But overall this is why I stay away from consoles. On console you are at the mercy of all sorts of marketing schemes (exclusives being just one example). On PC you have at least things like GoG, indie devs, a vibrant hobbyist scene (MUDs, DF, nethack, TOME, …), pservers (like P99) and things like that.
Don’t get me wrong: I love paying for good content and entertainment. But if I do, I wanna be treated with respect, as a customer, and not like an idiot.

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Sally Bowls

I get that. However, IMO, I think we are moving away from all that. Games are becoming a handful of mega corps and Steam. Plus Windows Store and Windows 10s.

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Buchi Buci

Will we, at least, be able to create a character when the game comes out, o ye mighty overlords….
-_-

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Drainage

No, you will have to buy the add on.
/smirk

Destiny 1 had zero cash shop items that were essential.

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Greaterdivinity

So… basically the exact same deal Activision had with Sony for timed content exclusivity on PS3/4 in Destiny 1?

Was anyone not expecting a repeat of this? >.>

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Hirku

Hahaha! It didn’t even take 24 hrs. for the bullshit to start smelling.

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Nick

Works out for me. I already planned on playing it on PS4 before they announced this or the PC delay.

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Tiresias

Congratulation on your short-sightedness!…?

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Tobasco da Gama

That’s fine, I can wait until 2018 to buy Destiny 2.

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Jack Kerras

This right here is what I don’t understand.

Encouraging people NOT to buy what is essentially an incomplete game unless they are on a specific platform seems stupid to me.

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BalsBigBrother

Sony pay more than Microsoft apparently. Non issue for me personally /shrugs

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Matthew Ward

Exclusives like this are just pure cancer for gamers.

Well, fuck em. Not buying on any platform now.

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Drainage

Cancer and punishment, all given out by game companies!

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