Derek Smart’s Line of Defense brings on secondary team for console version

Derek Smart’s MMO Line of Defense has a progress update this week covering the state of the game’s build. A new patch is on the way, and it’s fairly light, according to the post, being focused on the “underlying tech.” But that’s partly by design.

“Progress has been somewhat slow due to various factors including team and tech related challenges, as well as scheduling,” Smart says. “In addition to this, due to resources, scheduling, and dev costs, I also made the final decision to complete the PC version of the game using the existing custom engine in order to avoid any long term delays and complications.”

This means Line of Defense will be ported to UE4 by a secondary team. “In the end, we’re going to end up with two engine versions of the game, one for the PC, and the other for consoles,” he tells early access backers. “But due to the similarities between our Havok based custom engine, and UE4, there are currently no concerns related to parity in the game’s features. If anything, most of the noticeable differences will be in visuals, due to the vastly superior graphics of the UE4 engine.”

The game has been in development since at least 2011, when we first profiled it on Old Massively. In the last couple of years, it’s been pulled from Steam over review bombing and switched its business model to buy-to-play. It’s still not clear whether the Steam version of the game will return.

“Some people keep asking about the Steam store page etc.,” Smart notes. “We disabled that back in April 2016 and moved the game to CBT. As we have enough people who access the CBT servers helping us test, it allows us to focus test the game without distractions. That’s why we now have very few known issues left to address; which for such a large game, you would agree, is pretty impressive.”

“We’re working on some exciting things related to the game and future plans for the Line Of Defense series,” Smart concludes.

Smart is at this point best known to MMORPG players for his involvement in the Star Citizen metadrama; in 2015, he dubbed himself the “internet warlord” and famously began a series of rants against the crowdfunded sci-fi game, publicly declaring it a “failure” and “unmitigated disaster,” issuing demand letters, and threatening Cloud Imperium with a lawsuit, which to date has not materialized.

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Jan Hollander

Really, this is going to be the best game ever. With neuro scientific intelligence, better graphics than anything out there. Amazing AI, gameplay and millions of people playing together on one server, seamless transitions from space to planets, and all from the best developer ever, who is also a very nice guy who has got no time to smear others 24/7 on twitter and other forums, and certainly is no sissy with earrings. Yes, i can’t wait for this.

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Crowe

How about a secondary team for the PC version?
(with a new developer)

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Armsbend

I half-realize this is almost a trolling post – if it were any other website it would be. But I am surprised DS can’t even make an appearance in a thread dedicated to his own game. All publicity is good publicity they say.

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primal

to be fair that was over 1 year ago…. othersiode nothings really changed!

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dsmart

nothings really changed!

Really?

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Greaterdivinity

Oh man, skipped in a bit to where they started talking and this is absolutely hilarious.

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primal

i was going to right lots but theres no points. i just hope he doesnt decide to sue publications for there horrendous reveiws becuae lord gaben will kick it off stesm then it notorietay wil increase to the point whewre console gamers will not recommend you even bothering

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primal

you know sites will compare LOD to star citizen but not because of what he thinks that reason is because hes been saying his game will be better than star citizen. he reckons his engine tech is better even though his custom engine is horrerndous., the minreason why they will compare LOD to SC is of him. they will be comparing technical abilityyu over everything else and his team sorry to say is crap.

he’ll use the same old exciuse i havnt got 155mill of 428 employees and but he sill doesnt understand thereb are devs out there with less money and less experience building games that are 10x better

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dsmart

but he sill doesnt understand thereb are devs out there with less money and less experience building games that are 10x better

True. And none of them are working on Star Citizen.

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MMONERD

At least he is still in the game development.

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dsmart

At least he is still in the game development.

And unlike CIG, I have actually shipped a game. Several in fact. With my own money.

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ceder

No he’s usually on here and other sites criticizing Star Citizen for hours and hours on end.

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ceder

Just think, if he’d actually put all his time and effort into this shovel-ware as opposed to his crusading against SC and spending literally whole days of time debating it in comments on sites like here, he may have gotten a metal shovel instead of a wooden one at this point.

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primal

Tbh i think he thinks hes a really good game dev but even now if he thinks hes matrching even the crappiest stuff on steam hes delusional. i think hes trying a pump and dump style. The worst thing is to release a m,ess and PC because it will attract alot of attention and possibly get reviewed as a cautionary gaam,e to be had till UE4 version drops but the graphics may imporve but the terible game itself wont get fixed. its like he wants to get suckerz to buy it recoup his money then leave it to die.

thats what id do if i knew my game was garbage and pumped millions in. get what you can and get out

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Oleg Chebeneev

This game will have more developers then players

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Roger Melly

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Oleg Chebeneev

Lol. My naive friend, Line of Defense was in development for LONGER then Star Citizen. And if in Star Citizen case we see huge improvements every year, Line of Defense looked like crap 7 years ago and still does. Its a vapoware of MMO genre and not surprise considering who is behind it.

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agemyth 😩

Star Citizen drama gets mentioned waaay below the fold and many of the usual suspects show up to argue about it. Click bait? You would actually have to read the article (or skim to the part you care about, the part that mentions SC) to even know this was about anything but DS and LoD.

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Armsman

I mean one HALF FINISHED game (yes, it was finished, but by another dev team after Derek Smart sold the rights), namely

Battlecruiser 3000

plus now

“Line of Defense”

(in development since 2009); in a 25+ year career should be everything one needs to know about the ‘developer credentials’ of Derek Smart.

And LOD’s popularity should speak volumes too. I mean it lad 3 whole players (a huge uptick from the average player count as recently as June 19, 2017.

http://steamcharts.com/app/266620#1y

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primal

The game is virtually unplayable I’ve got no idea what he’s thinking

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dsmart

The game is virtually unplayable I’ve got no idea what he’s thinking

You must be thinking of Star Citizen.

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MeltWithYou

Coincidentally, there was a Jimquisition…this week actually…that talked about the deteriorating standards of games allowed on the PSN store. I’m going to assume line of defense will join the likes of Spear or Destiny, Firefighters Simulation, horse racing 2016 and Life of Black Tiger….

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Melissa McDonald

Sure, the graphic fidelity isn’t as high as Star Citizen.

But you know what? Star Marine is a bog-standard FPS that pales in comparison to games like Halo and the Noun-of-Noun games. Seriously. It’s not that great.

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primal

Star Marine is a game within a game is not meant to be something you solely play. When you die there turning you into a pile of blocks exactly like tron to indicate it’s a game within a game. It’s supposed to simple

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Estranged

I thought SC was genre breaking? Now Star Marine is simple?

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primal

yeah becuse a gamew within a game means extremem complxitry”

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Estranged

So, space WoW?

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primal

nope star marine well was a platform to test new weapons and stuff. thats kind of gone down hill but, LOD is a pure pvp game with some AI assisted stuff. its like a crappy version playerunkowns battlegrounds except with really bad game design

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Estranged

Primal, I let the FPS pro devs take care of that part of my gaming brain. lol

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primal

have you ever played LOD? honestly the game design is terrible you can not belive me if you want but if that game gets above a 5/10 id be surprised

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Estranged

primal – no clue about this game, everyone has turned this into something about SC.

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semugh

yeah a lotsa games pale in comparison to World of Warcraft. That’s no news, money always wins.

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Space Captain Zor

Just a heads up, Line of Defense pretty much checks off all those boxes about scope and not meeting release dates you listed up there too.

The irony that people will attack CIG but come in here and defend him for all the things LoD shares in common with SC, and many many other games… Serious hypocrisy.

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primal

Derek smart is not a victim. he made himself, when he goes quiet and everyone else starts ignoring him again do you know what he does? he pokes the hornets nest again and again until he gets attacked and then he pushes the narrative of being a victim. hes like steve irwin poking a cobra with a stick until it attacks him.

hes been saying from the start his LOD game is going be better than SC and SC tech cant be done (back in 2011 he was saying his LOD game was going make sony cry when he gets all the players from planetside, more delusions) yet its all going to come out how much of a fraud he is when he puts his game into gold status i.e. fully released. when you do that theres no more hiding behind early access and alphas or whatever and tbh his game is going to get destroyed in reviews

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Joe Blobers

Quote Gnomeland Security:”other than the agenda that’s used to attack Derek Smart”
Since 24 hours I refrain myself to make any comment about this announce.

But your comment about DS being a victim… The guy is making against, whatever do CIG, more tweets, emails, posts than Kim Jung One have made against USA in the last decade… anyway, back to the topic:

I am now feverishly waiting answer to those 6 questions mark:

– Date of release…
– The first review made by independant writers (MOP for instance),
– Comparison chart of the released game vs Planetside 2 + SC features (as the guy claim his game is far superior in eveything but graphics),
– Reaction of the guy and how long it will takes to serve reviewers with extracts from the Book Art of War :)
– At what point after release he will say “working as design”, leaving players on fire as LOD is literally the 15th iteration of the same game, none of them being remotely playable.

And last but not least… Is he going to slowdown his multi media platform ranting against SC to concentrate on his game… or increase it even further to keep media focused on his superior game…

2018 is definitively going to be an entertaining year :)

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Bruno Brito

Smart doesn’t really need anyone to smear him.

I mean, this game is a piece of crap, and he made his bed. He’ll lie on it.

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Space Captain Zor

You really don’t see the irony in your statement? Go skim through the SC articles and you’ll see how similarly lambasted Star Citizen is for some of the same things Line of Defense is, and their developers respectively. MY point is that people are selectively blind to the glaring similarities depending on which person or project they favor.

There are big differences between the two projects but enough similarities to warrant the comparisons.

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Siphaed

No need to smear his work based on his SC comments. His work can speak for itself. And that speech sounds like slurred words because his work is a pile of mushy rubbish.

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Yuri Geinish

Just trying to understand the commenting ppl thinking here. Whatever Mr Smart is saying about SC is wrong because LoD is bad? Somebody’s been missing school.

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dsmart

Just trying to understand the commenting ppl thinking here. Whatever Mr Smart is saying about SC is wrong because LoD is bad? Somebody’s been missing school.

Yeah, that’s been an on-going thing since forever. It’s quite hilarious actually.

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Utakata

It would certainly help Mr. Smart’s position that his products have a proven degree of success in the majority of gamers think very highly of. But instead of being a giant in the industry where everyone would be in awe of standing on his shoulders, he just likes yelling at giants while riding on the coat tails of their weak points. Just saying.

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Joe Blobers

Quote Yuri Geinish in another recent post:
“Hey Mr. Smart, been following your blog on Star Citizen for years, thanks for doing a great job”

At least you do not hide about your mutual support :) That is your opinion good for you…. and say a lot knowing who is the guy.

Birds of a feather flock.

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John Kiser

The problem is that derek smart’s criticisms of SC have to be weighed with a certain “grain of salt” mentality when taking his supposed “development” prowess into account. He is attempting to badmouth them as a developer, but his own games have been utter tripe taking a much longer time to actually develop while being much simpler (ie he is guilty of what he is accusing them of frequently). He somehow expects people with a much broader idea of a game to somehow develop shit at a faster rate simply because there is more of them and he doesn’t seem to grasp the concept of how game development actually is despite being a “game developer” himself.

Star Citizen was unveiled/announced in 2012 (derek’s game 2011 and derek’s game isn’t even an MMO of any sorts and is in dire need of a competent developer of any sorts) His opinion is diminished when his critiques come from a place where he claims experience as a developer. Questioning a games development is one thing, but some games take time to develop (mmorpgs take far longer to develop than your bog standard game or multiplayer game so a 5 year time frame isn’t that bad, they are frankly having issues meeting goals because they underestimated the scope of a broad world like that)

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Yuri Geinish

Authority doesn’t matter. Facts and reasoning do, and there’s plenty of that in his analysis.

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John Kiser

There isn’t facts or reasoning in his analysis though. His analysis is based on his “authority” and he is calling out development taking a long time when his own game has been in development a LOT longer and that matters a whole hell of a lot when you criticize other people. I don’t know why you feel the need to protect him, but frankly he’s a troll and his hatred in the gaming community rather well deserved. I’m not even a SC backer and I frankly just hate filth like him.

Look yes SC time tables are WAY off (no one being realistic about it thought they’d meet goals with how lofty their overall game is) and it is asinine that a supposed game developer with more problems than I could shake multiple sticks at is going to bad mouth them based on his “sense of duty” .

Did you even read into smart’s actions? He called for an FTC investigation because they refunded his money and believed they were going to refund all kickstarter backers money and all this other nonsensical crap that had 0 basis in reality at all. He’s also trying to claim ownership of digital items and lots of other nonsensical crap (hint derek, any time you badmouth a company and try and go against them the way you did you are going to get banned from the game and any ToS permits it, by all means try and take them to court, but you will find you get nowhere fast).

There is cautious optimism and then there is the shit derek smart has tried which is so far out of the realm of reality it is like 100% laughable. Hold ups happen in game development particularly MMORPGS from people that don’t have as much experience in that realm. They are not doing an awful job and I for one would rather see hold ups on a game than a rushed launch to appease some guy that thinks he knows a shit load about game development.

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Tandor

As soon as I saw the phrase “Derek Smart’s line of defence” I thought oh no, has he been on the forums again?

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McGuffn

Looks good but I think I might wait for the game of the year edition.

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3lfk1ng

I can’t wait to see if this glitchy mess of a game with PS2-era graphics even sells a single copy on consoles.

Maybe then, once it continues to remain a commercial failure, he will return to hiding under a bridge, once and for all.

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Rolan Storm

Relation of community scales from hated to loathed. Heh.

Guy really should have iron skin to live. Millions help, though. Ha! Derek, I know you are reading! Give me back my $40 for BC 3000 A.D. It was unfinished and unplayable!

No? Oh, well. Especially bad it could have been a great game.

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Zander

Goddamnit, here we are again trashing another man’s space game. Is this ever going to stop? Okay, yes it’s been in development for 7 years, (going on 8) with significant delays that are unrelated to the project, but those delays are because he’s been focused on another space game’s demise. These are valid industry competitive tactics! We shouldn’t be upset that Steam pulled the game because he wasn’t honoring refunds or he was getting review bombed. We need to be understanding, patient and supportive of his endeavors outside of Line of Defense. Will the game ever get finished? If porting to console means an engine swap and further delays IT STILL MEANS PROGRESS!

So have faith, continue supporting his cause (even though it’s not Line of Defense) and remember. We need to keep his project going forever. He’s counting on you ;)

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silverlock

“there are currently no concerns related to parity in the game’s features. If anything, most of the noticeable differences will be in visuals, due to the vastly superior graphics of the UE4 engine.”

Well I guess it’s a good thing PC gamers don’t care about graphics.
If nothing else DS is always good for a laugh.

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life_isnt_just_dank_memes

Hey! Let the man build his game and ship it! He’s mature enough to understand criticism of the game if it is warranted. I’d love to see him be as transparent about criticism to his game as he wants Roberts to be about his.

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John Kiser

HA no that won’t ever happen.

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Space Captain Zor

A few questions I have that I wonder if he would be candid enough to answer:

tech related challenges

Which specific challenges?

in order to avoid any long term delays and complications

Would you not say it’s already suffering a long term delay? Which specific complications?

As we have enough people who access the CBT servers helping us test

How many is that?

it allows us to focus test the game without distractions

Does this mean you consider having the game available as Early Access is a distraction? If not, what exactly were the distractions experienced prior to moving to CBT?

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Dobablo

Of course early access is a distraction. There are extra users to service, there is extra focus on reliability and system compatibility and all of that takes heads away from fixing the main blockages.
That isn’t too say that EA had its advantages but simplifying development isn’t one of them.

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primal

tbf he only ever attracted a few players to the game so he would of had to pay an external company to test the game becuase no one is interested in playing it

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Space Captain Zor

That is all very dependent on how you handle it, IMO. I just found it curious that he would label EA (and by extension, its customers) as a distraction in the pejorative sense, but still took the money.

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Space Captain Zor

lol oh boy, hashtag triggered

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Oyjord Hansen

If Smart’s name is on a project, I won’t touch it. He’s toxic.

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Fenna

lol this game was a major failure on pc,, it’s going to be a bigger flop on console ahah

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Rustyblades

Excuse the captain obvious hat, but UE4 runs nicely on PCs. I think I have it installed on my main – yup there it is… why go stupid with deving for 2 engines when one will work nicely? This isn’t Contact: The Video game where you need to dev on 2 engines for 3 times the price…

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Schlag Sweetleaf

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nvidia

Looks like an N64 game. That he’s shitting on Star Citizen for anything is absolutely hilarious.

Now where’s my popcorn, I’m sure DS will be here any minute to defend this monstrosity of a game.

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Boom

hahahahahahaha

Thanks for that cheered me right up

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Wanda Clamshuckr

I’d rather read an article about Smart being locked up and trephined, as I think that is the only cure for his malignant narcissism.

Some people are attracted to his outrageousness. I find it tiresome, and deeply disturbing.

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Veldan

Let the man build his game, as long as he’s got money. What’s to lose?

As for all his internet posting, nobody’s forced to read that (though for some reason, everyone does).

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Castagere Shaikura

Agree
Hating on him is getting old. There are worse devs out there that don’t get as much hate as this guy. wonder if his skin color has anything to do with that.

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Bruno Brito

Not really.

What has to do with it, is the fact he’s a underachiever egocentric narcisistic asshole who likes to pick fights and sue everyone into oblivion.

He’s a idiot, and he’s a fraud, and he should be locked up for his own sanity.

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Rumm

No, it doesn’t have anything to do with it. Its the fact that he’s a gigantic douchebag. Other devs don’t get as much hate because they don’t invite it upon themselves by proclaiming themselves internet warlords, or lying about having PhD’s

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Mikka Hansen

troubles with dev costs? Just sell jpegs at $70 a pop, thats the trend nowadays right?

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Veldan

Only $70? Better make sure there’s an exclusive jpeg for $500 also, and a super-backer-early-founder-supporter jpeg for $2500.

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Melissa McDonald

or the Double-Secret-Probationary, Revolutionary, Evolutionary, Wonka-vator Capital Ship for a mere $10,000.00
This also gets your name added to an NPC, adds you to the game credits, and gives you an exclusive pass to the Whale Hunt 2017 Fan Convention, which has been delayed until 2018. But you will get to dine and sup with at least one employee of the company, and you’ll get a goodie bag with an exclusive tshirt, stickers, and buttons.

I think I’ve had too much caffeine this morning.

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Phubarrh

I’d rather spend $140 on them!

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Bryan Turner

Well that settles it, I’m definitely going to buy a Playstation 2 so that I have a console advanced enough to handle this gem!

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