Check out Star Citizen’s absurdly detailed in-game hologram smartwatch

Chris Roberts and Sandi Gardiner are helming another episode of Star Citizen’s Around the Verse this week, in the temporarily abbreviated format introduced previously. The headliner of the episode? MobiGlas, which is basically a super fancy in-game smartwatch that your character can use to display every imaginable statistic to you in an overlay interface. I want one!

The Burndown segment this week covers the team’s progress toward alpha 3.0. “If you saw our update to the Public Release Schedule last Friday, you should notice that we started this week at 90 must fix issues that we need to complete before we’re ready to release to our first round of non CIG testers,” Senior Producer Eric Kieron Davis says. “These 90 issues are our detailed lists with set priorities guiding the closed down phase of this release. The reason we need priorities is to help us understand which are crucial to be completed first. We currently use terms and definitions such as blocker, critical, high, moderate and trivial and identifying these issues all start with QA.”

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Roger Melly

Another week and another promotional sales video from Chris Roberts .

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Melissa McDonald

They did damage. Sigh.

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ichi sakari

looks very good, wish it were playable but I can wait

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Roger Melly

I would rather play with that kitten it looks like it’s a ton of fun wrapped up in fluff .

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Mikka Hansen

Well, now we know where the $150m went, I guess…

Dont worry backers, $50b and 40 years more and you’ll be maybe, perhaps, not really close to the beta phase!! Almost there!

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Boom

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I know there is a lot of people impatient for this to release but when it does…my God…it’s going to be amazing!

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Roger Melly

How do you know ? Lots of people once thought Warhammer Online and Age of Conan would be amazing after all .

The proof of the pudding is in the eating and right at the moment it’s just a bunch of doe and mixed nuts in a bowl and it’s not even been mixed let alone put the oven to cook .

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Melissa McDonald

Age of Conan WAS amazing. And then you left Tortage….

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Gene Elder

Hey I know, since some other game somewhere has had something that might be simular, lets not have it in SC at all.. because some other game somewhere else did it, it can never be original, revolutionary or even any good. It must be scrapped, along with the rest of the game, and then I can say, see, I told you it was a scam.

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Armsman

Dammit Schlag – if I short out my keyboard due to spraying Mountain Dew all over it in a short unexpected burst of laughter because of this one, I’m sending you the bill. ;)

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Zander

Some demonstration for those who don’t want to or can’t watch this week’s episode:

Starmap:

Traversing Menus & Directories:

Helmet HUD:

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Utakata

I have to admit that looks cool. O.O

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A Dad Supreme

Nice demo, Zander. Thanks!

It’s either going to be Game of the Century or Bust of the Century.

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Zander

Oops, messed up the first gif link to Starmap. If a mod wants to edit my post to add this, that would be cool.

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Tamanous

In industry terms: This game is going to be immersive as f###.

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Hirku

Wow, that’s amazing! I’ve never seen anything like that…since the last time I played Dead Space.

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Hebel

Really?
Strange, because i can’t see the UI of my buddy in Dead Space Coop.
And there is a reason.
The SC UI is a 3D volume, the DS UI is a 2D interface.

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shear

Just remember man,nobody said this isn’t cool. We’re just pointing out that it isn’t new.

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Gene Elder

well if its not new, then it should be taken out of the game, and never mentioned again, and instead SC should work on mental telepathy as a UI.. now that would be revolutionary tech, and if its not so far beyond 2020 tech, well then its a scam and everyone is being ripped off and Chris should just kill himself now.

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Hebel

This kind of UI is new.
A 16bit texture from the first Doom and a texture from Battlefield 1 base on photogrammetry is also not the same texture.

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deekay_plus

you know transparent 3d objects have been a thing since like 2003 right?

dx9.0a called.

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Hebel

Oh really?
But its not a simple 3D object its a 3D volume based on a texture for a UI.
You know render to texture …

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deekay_plus

/eyeroll

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Gene Elder

/taco

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Hebel

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Gene Elder

tacos have been a thing for a long time. but eventually someone will make a taco unlike other tacos, even though its still a taco.

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Darkwalker75 .

Been reading the comments here and have to say I like your taco comments.
Some of them even made me laugh the way you responded to other comments using taco references.

I may not be the taco lover you give the impression of being, but I do like tacos.

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shear

THANK YOU! I was wondering what this reminded me of!

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Hirku

No problem. I’m not knocking this UI thing, but the SC fans need to stop acting like Roberts is splitting the atom or curing polio and call it what it is: a new version of a decade-old design.

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Gene Elder

and what would you consider revolutionary enough to be included in SC? since you are now a developer..

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shear

I’ve said it a year ago, nothing they are doing is groundbreaking at all, and all you need to do is take a look at the games released (ED, NMS) and the games that are on the horizon to see it (Infinity: Battlescape, BGAE2, Dual Universe)

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Gene Elder

so what would wow you? for that matter, what game currently in development doesnt make you yawn with cynicism?

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shear

Really, after years of hyping games up and constantly being disappointed, I don’t get wowed anymore.

I keep the hype levels down and get pleasantly surprised nowadays.

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primal

ED boring exploration centric single player game with some co op (no offense to it), NMS to heavily involved on survival and resource gathering with not alot else to do apart from explore. Isnt infinity battlescape basically where your just constantly waring in a single solar system?

Beyond Good and Evil 2, looks good but is likely a single player game and wont be out for quite some time as the engine itself still isnt complete. Good to know ubisoft making a new engine though

Dual Universe i think is going to be more about building stuff with your mates than anything else.

Star Citizen is far more multiplayer focused, more advanced engine and tech wise than any of those others, and starting to shape up really well. Does have a much bigger budget than all those though so should do. With all these kickstarters and stuff it really does look like only the kickstarter games are actually trying to advance the genres as publishers are stuck in the mud thinking cant try anything to radical because might cost tons of money with not much return

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shear

Right but you’re judging all of those games against what SC is going to be years from now.

I’m not sure where ED is heading but I am willing to bet it’s going to be a lot better by the time SC is launched.

NMS is what it is, an arcade space game but it does have seamless landings which is what SC is trying to sell as “new tech”

Infinity is going to be an MMO based in one system, but let’s be fair here the systems are actually so large in reality that the amount of content you could have in one is unlimited. It’s also going to be purely PVP so it will definitely satisfy that crowd of people, and it does look very nice considering it’s in alpha. I actually think this game has the most potential to have the largest amount of diverse content because it’s the smallest of them all in size. Not into the whole PvP though that’s not my cup of tea.

I am not sure about DU, I haven’t looked into it too much but building your own spaceships however you’d like is actually something I’d be interested in, and it’s something SC won’t have.

BGAE2 is basically at the same stage of development that SC is at, probably even ahead since it is just a SP from what I understand.

Non of those points matter though because all I was saying is that SC isn’t doing anything that hasn’t or isn’t being done by someone else as well. Nobody really knows how it will shape up in the end.

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primal

SC is doing it all in one game, thats the difference. There not selling procedural gen as new tech because its been around for about 30 years i think.

I backed Dual Universe, yeah building your own ships is good and might be interesting for alot of people. think id get sick of trying build a big one. SC wont have that which is good and definitely not a negative.

I basically backed DU just to chuck them some money but i havnt got the patience for building stuff or exploring. You say SC may land in a crowded marketplace but there all different games. end of the day

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shear

Well, I wouldn’t call them too different, they are all Space Sim MMOs, WoW and GW2 are different, and play differently and look differently, but they still compete in the same market.

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primal

sort of, beyond good and evil 2 as a single player would have a finite time. i dont see ED as a competitor tbh because anyone who likes elite will stick with elite anyone whose bored of it would be gone by then anyway.

infinity battlescape yeah maybe pends what it turns out like and dual universe i think will attract more space engineers and kerbal type people than anything

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shear

Definitely, DU seems like a very Space Engineers type of game, they showed coding in game recently and I was like ” NOP, I want to play not learn how to code” but I can definitely see how some people will absolutely love it.

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cmdr_cotic

ED boring exploration centric single player game with some co op (no offense to it),

This is precisely the sort of thing someone who knows sweet fuck all about the game would say.

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Gene Elder

i agree, boring single player. so thats two sweet fucks. im sure there are more.. but that doesnt mean you cant fap to it to your tiny hearts content.

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Zander

Nah, he’s correct. Elite Dangerous does some cool things but being a dynamic multiplayer and having lasting interest isn’t one of them.

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shear

It is multiplayer, it’s just large man, very very large, hence you don’t see people often. It does lack in meaningful content though, but as I said, I really like the direction they are heading in at the moment. The lore in the game is absolutely fantastic, and the fact that they are sort of making the players discover it all on their own without any direction is very cool… for the 3 people who manage to figure it out and discover it… :D

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shear

True, I really love the way they are introducing lore at the moment. I have big hopes that next year will turn it around for Frontier. I really do believe they can make Elite into something special down the line, it will just take time.

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Zander

I really do believe they can make Elite into something special down the line, it will just take time.

This I can agree with. Where ED made a great foundation for space gameplay, they lack the substance to keep players engaged. SC took a different route of not releasing the shell game, lacking substance and wants to provide all of that content ED aspires right out of the gate. *pats ED on the head* Our little ED bros give inspiration.

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deekay_plus

we don’t know that about SC yet. the foundation of SC isn’t even done yet, let alone finding out what the content will be like beyond some vagueries and vertical slice demos that make it look like pretty typical mmo quest chains we’ve all done to death for the past 15 years.

sc may very well lack lasting replay value itself, perhaps worse than ED’s grind loop.

turns out as we’ve learned in the mmo genre in the past 5 years, no matter how you dress up quests with voice acting or cut scenes or other gimmicks, they’re still the same boring quests that has become a major albatross for the genre.

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primal

i bought it second day after it released. it is, can you group up with more than 4 players yet? can you directly trade with other players? nah all you can do is appear in the same instance with some people and try follow people around. thats it.

give me a call when they get planetary atmospheres to explore than it might actually become interesting

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deekay_plus

call me when star citizen has any of those things.

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Gene Elder

I will.. now go have a taco.

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primal

okay youll be finding excuses for other stuff when grouping is in next year. i think trading between players might be in 3.0 not sure though

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deekay_plus

grouping is in the game for some time now.

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cmdr_cotic

In other words you don’t know what the game is like now and you’re basing your opinions on something released almost 3 years ago. Imagine if people based their opinions of Star Citizen on Arena Commander that was released just over 3 years ago….

You run wings of 4 people, and then have multiple wings that co-ordinate, not difficult at all. You can trade goods with people, drop your items allow them to scoop or collect with limpets, there’s no magical trade button for 1 tonne units of cargo though.

Why are you criticising Elite for not having atmospheric planets but defend SC when they cannot implement them? After 5 years you are getting 3 moons in 3.0 and you have the gall to criticise another game that lets you land on millions of moons and do stuff already for almost 2 years.

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Imagine if people based their opinions of Star Citizen on Arena Commander that was released just over 3 years ago….

Uhh, happens everyday dude. Why do you think we continue to go back and forth? It’s almost like we have to educate people who want to remain ignorant to new developments. Funny how that works.

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shear

That’s the thing I don’t get, people compare Elite with SC but they judge Elite against what SC will one day MAYBE become.

It’s ridiculous.

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Gene Elder

tacos are not ridiculous. but this argument is.

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Space Captain Zor

Did you notice that you don’t want people to compare completed games to the future feature set of SC, but you DO want people to compare SC’s WIP features against the finished feature set of completed games for the sake of your argument that SC isn’t doing anything differently? I don’t even see how you think that makes sense to do.

If you’re going to compare SC to released titles then it’s only fair to consider it’s planned features and not WIP incomplete stuff.

What’s ridiculous is to sit there saying an unfinished game isn’t doing anything new. You’re also completely oversimplifying what CIG says about their tech and gameplay features to fit your argument that they claim everything they’re doing is unique and never been done before. I don’t really even understand why you are such a broken record about that in every SC article anyway, “there’s no such thing as a new idea.” -Mark Twain

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shear

I compared tech, not content, people are comparing SCs content to that of games that are already out is silly, I see this comparison all the time “SC is going to be so much better than ED” and that may be so but you’re comparing content that SC doesn’t have yet and that insane.

The point I’m trying to make is that by the time SC is out ED might be a lot better than it is now.

When it comes to tech, well NMS has seamless landing, something SC is pushing as very cool and innovating, and if you look through the comment section it’s an ongoing argument from just about any fanboy too, which isn’t true.

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Gene Elder

what do you care if people think one game is going to be better than another. no two tacos are the same. let the taco be, and the people will enjoy or they will not, with or without you. preferable without you.

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shear

I compared to at least three games that aren’t released yet.

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Space Captain Zor

You compared it to ED and No Man’s Sky and last I checked those ARE both released. I don’t care if you ALSO compare it to stuff that hasn’t released yet because the point is that you still compare it to something that IS released. Keep your debate apples to apples, IMO.

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shear

Yes I compared their tech not the content.

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deekay_plus

most of the list of comparison that started this conversation was games yet to be released that have demonstrated doing those things on video before SC did the same.

and if you’re going to compare to ED, is atmospheric planets to land on not a planned feature? let’s see who gets there first eh?

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Gene Elder

a fish taco is not a fajita taco. no matter how much you want to compare the two tacos, in the end, one taco will have fish in it and the other will have fajita.

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Space Captain Zor

His first comment lists 5 games, 2 of which are released… So, okay, “most” is accurate. Given context that it’s a very short list that wasn’t much of a point to make.

Right but you’re judging all of those games against what SC is going to be years from now.

Is that somehow not fair to do if people are going to do the reverse?

I couldn’t care less if people want to compare unfinished games to each other cause IMO it’s completely academic and speculative. What really matters is what they can do and what they have when they are considered finished. As the saying goes, wish in one hand and shit in the other…

The start of the conversation is and continues to be this angle that SC is doing absolutely nothing new, which is a ridiculously moot point to make about something that isn’t finished.

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primal

im not criticising Elite for not having atmospheric planets, and im saying the game will still be boring as hell to me until they get it in.

oh you can drop crap and scoop it up. wheres the ability to sell your cargo to another player in a station or even trade it directly to another player. the only difference when you goto solo play is players disappear, you can still complete all the community goals and everything therefore its a primarily a single player game

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deekay_plus

is selling stuff to other players even a planned feature for sc? last i heard them talking about the economy CR said otherwise, see: npc driven economy.

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Gene Elder

you need to make the taco before you can eat the taco.

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shear

I am pretty sure that there will be a setting to allow people to play with minimum interaction with other people in SC too.

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primal

yeah there should be but you cant turn it completely off

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shear

Perhaps you will be able to. It really matters little I’d say, space games are large in their nature so the amount of interaction between people would be minimal in both games. I mean think how big the systems are and if SC is doing one instance per system it is likely you’ll see even less people around than in ED.

I do know one thing, SC is going to face the same problem Elite did when it came out. All the PvP people moaning on forums because people are playing in Solo mode or their “PvP” slider turned all the way down.

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primal

no you wont be able to turn it off at all. they might have even got rid of that idea now and have players at normal levels. the idea is there would still be player risk when your going about your business.

it isnt one instance per system its 1 instance per area. so youd flow in and out of instances like elite as your travelling through the system. But if they get the server meshing system to work then servers will each handle areas and stuff will persist but there will still be instancing because cant have 5000 people enter the same area, it would blow up the internet haha. Eve online does it well with its time dilation but you cant do that with a first person game. it would be experiencing seriously bad internet lag

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deekay_plus

it isnt one instance per system its 1 instance per area. so youd flow in and out of instances like elite

this is completely incorrect based on statements so rediculous old and long since redacted it’s hilarious.

each system is a whole instance now. has been since 2.0

also CU has done about 6k avatars in the same area on screen at once in real time combat (tho simulated with bots), nevermind what countless mmo pserver teams have done with concurrent on screen player counts.

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primal

each system is a whole instance lmao,… your only around crusader? it isnt even close to the whole stanton system fool. do you think theyve been doing nothing with the network for the last 3 years hahahahahahahahahahahaha thats all im going say

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deekay_plus

you knoiw network and back end is a major albatross on every part of this project?

otherwise i think you need to reread my post becuase you seem to not have read it.

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Gene Elder

to be fair, your posts arent worth reading. you are going to whine and complain. because it offended you for some reason no one can figure out. you sound like a child who didnt get your pony for christmas.

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deekay_plus

ayyyy lmao.

you really need to take a good sober look at yourself and rethink your life.

you’re literally trying to harass someone for not blindly praising a game on the internet. XD

how many times are you going to reply to the same posts tonight? how long are you going to go at it?

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Gene – you just admitted to harrassment.

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deekay_plus

ummm i’m not the one actign like i’m getting worked up over a game bro XD

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Gene Elder

how do you know how the taco is going to work when nobody knows how this taco is going to work? your must making up tacos now. So how can anybody believe anything you have to say about tacos? I know I dont believe you know anything about tacos.

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shear

I watched the video there recently where CR talked about the slider and it seemed like it’s still a thing they are thinking about. Yes there will be some risk but it will be minimal I’d say.

Oh see I thought it was one instance per system, this makes more sense. But then, can you do seamless transitions between instances? Because I am pretty sure you need loading for that.

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deekay_plus

the slider is really old and more or less probably redacted.

but with the full system size and number of pois,plus the target instance population, most of the time you’re going to feel alone.

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Gene Elder

because the taco is not finished. tomorrow that taco might be the best taco anyone was ever had.. because.. tacos.

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primal

if the fail they fail but at least they would of close. youll never get a game like that off any publisher, even sony who seems to be the most relaxed with allowing new stuff. SC fails, evefrything fails

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shear

Nah I wouldn’t be surprised if big devs are working on something like this. I don’t think they thought there was a market for it. Now that they can clearly see there is money in this, you’ll start seeing more space games as we have in the past couple of years.

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primal

no you really wont. theres been space type games coming out for the last few years like you said NMS, failure in reviews and players, ED picked em up at launch and fell off.

they will only build something like SC if they can see there is a demand and the only way business people see the demand is if it sells well at launch and beyond. I dont think it will tbh, hopefully they make alot through squadron to carry on both games development but i dont think SC will attract tons of players at least not enough to sustain there current team size and costs associated with continued development through the years.

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I don’t know man, well-known devs wouldn’t have touched Space Sims with a 10-foot pole 5 years ago, but there are rumours that Bethesda has some sort of space game in the works (not Prey) although I doubt that they’ll make a multiplayer game, it is Bethesda we’re talking about.

I personally wouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing a bunch of them from a bunch of well-known developers like EA, Ubi (they are making one).

What I would like to see is one from Rockstar, Rockstar would knock it out of the park, they always do.

There is one thing you said I can agree with though, no matter how good SC is Space Sims are a niche. Even if it’s outstanding, it may still not have the sort of traction something like CoD has, but then again 156m? Seems like people are more interested in them than one would have thought.

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primal

well thats something only the tech will answer. star citizen has a lot of problems like when your talking even server meshing having multiple servers handling the same instance to allow more players but your still going a have a limit anyway but they will try mitigate it somewhat. unless they can break it down to… for example a master overlook server for that instance, then servers managing whats going on inside certain ships, cus these ships can be fucking huge. thats the only way your going to be able to have tons and tons players.

lets say someone got a javelin or stole a panther/pegasus escort carrier forgot the name, you can battles all over the ship turning gravity on and off in areas because its not one gravity generator per ship having bits blown off potentially throwing you into space etc. also the ships coming in like a retaliator fitted with 2 boarding modules ,i.e. seats to fit marines/players in, or redeemers flying in so the player count can increase exponentially.

when i think about it its sounds insane what there trying to program tbh.

if they pull this off there is without a shadow of a doubt this will be the most technically advanced gamed EVER created.

its not because there doing stuff thats new, its not because there doing stuff that hasnt been doing before, there trying to merge all these aspects in to a single game with no loading screens, no transporting inside a ship, its basically nuts.

and that is at least why its taking so damn long

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Space Captain Zor

given that reality, I find it really funny that people throw such a fit when talking about CIG downsizing 3.0 playable area

Omgz CIG sucks cause they aren’t making the solar system the size they said they were!
…then…
Omgz ED is so boring cause there’s so few people to find in all this space!

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shear

I think it was more to do with the broken promise and less to do with a downsize. I think people who are sceptical about SC find it interesting that the backers who have invested money into this are totally ok with being lied to. You wouldn’t be ok if this was anyone else,but SC gets a pass as always.

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Gene Elder

who is being lied to? we have known all along that 1) Chris wants a large game 2) it takes a long time to make a large game 3) Chris will be as transparent about production as possible.
Nobody has been lied to.

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Space Captain Zor

I can’t see how you call it lying when it’s an iterative software development process where it was plainly spelled out that stuff can and will change through out that process. Saying that people are ok being lied to is ridiculous. If a software developer says “we plan to do XYZ feature, but please note that this may change because of a billion different reasons throughout development” and then exactly that happens, that’s not being lied to.

Most judgements I see about SC never take into consideration that the game is still in development, but I guess that just doesn’t matter in 2017.

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ppl throw a fit about 3.0 being downsized because it’s less than what we were pitched it would be a year ago and 8 months late from when it was pitched to be due.

and that’s a set of massive red flags about the long term viability of the project if they are showing us x y and z thing and saying it’s this close to being ready and then cut back to just x of the x y and z and can’t even develiver 8 months past the planned date.

it just plays into the perception that this project has incredibly bad project management issues. that in other games where we’ve seen anything like this it generally ended up with a poor product if the game was released at all.

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Space Captain Zor

I would be more concerned about a retail release being downsized but an alpha patch being downsized just seems like another silly thing to sensationalize.

Back me up here @MarkJacobs

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shear

Retail will be downsized. They won’t launch with a 100 systems, unless they want those systems to be very boring. It’s an incredible amount of work to make them all feel and be unique.

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normally sure. but normally alpha patches aren’t hyped to hell and back like CIG has done with 3.0.

when you’re doing launch level hype for an alpha patch, expect launch level qq for said alpha patch.

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Gene Elder

so someone said they were going to make a great taco.. and its taking time to make that taco.. you have decided they have had enough time, and because that you cant savor that magnificent taco, you have no more patience and must badmouth the taco you cannot have. now we understand you. would you feel better if the taco apologized?

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Space Captain Zor

Not everyone is as level headed as I am ;)

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Gene Elder

you can use lettuce from the garbage can to make your taco, or you have buy good lettuce and make a good taco. Id rather have a good taco.. and id rather wait for good lettuce on my taco, than eat a taco with lettuce from the trash can.. if I get a taco at all.

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lettuce went bad on your taco, passed the expiration date 8 months ago

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no you dont need loading, all it does it transfer you from server to server as each server handles different areas so it will seamlessly hand you over .

I actually signed back up to world of warcraft a few weeks ago after a few years absense and the server tech they have now is really good. its like all servers can be pooled together so you dont only play with the people from your own server… makes lfg dungeons much easier.

They call it phasing, i was in broken shore wanting do a world quest with big bad boss, i clicked on the icon next to it to open a lfg for it, hit sign up boom filled up with like 40 players from loads of different servers, even guilds can have people from different servers, what it does is when someone is from a different server from you it says it after there name. And they just all appeared, no loading, no nothing. once its done you leave the group and everyone who isnt on your server disappears again

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deekay_plus

CIG can’t even implement fully stable servers with coherent hit detection with concurrencies of 24 players per server nad you expect them figure out what took blizz 15 years to achieve?

okay bro okay.

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Gene Elder

the Taco was not created in one day. It took years for people to decide what made a taco and what made a flauta. This taco is not complete, and your bitching is mot making it a taco any sooner.

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they obviously just need to setup a con call with blizz :P

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shear

That’s pretty cool.

I haven’t played WoW since Cat, it killed the game for me. :D

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Gene Elder

Im enjoying Legion quite a bit, its not perfect, but its better than Mists.

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primal

i joined in wrath of lich king i think and i left in cataclysm. i didnt like it either. haha

I remember when i used to queue as a dps you used to wait for ages maybe even like 45 minutes to an hour sometimes. was why i started tanking, insta dungeon hahah.

now its like maybe 5 minutes wait.

i started a demon hunter, starts at level 98 haha, its pretty cool class. im at max level 110 but there so much stuff to do its overwhelming. i used to look at open world games and be like uggh but i feel all the world quests trumps that

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You just described my my own experience with WoW haha. I started tanking cause of insta dungeons too!

I did take a look at the class when expansion came out and it looks like a lot of fun. It sort of reminded me of GW2 combat, very active.

That’s the reason I don’t want to resub and start playing again, I am so far behind! I don’t even know where to start. It’s too intimidating!

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primal

its not that intimidating and you can level up fast. i read ages ago cant remember what level expansion it was they reduced the time it took to level up because no one really cared about leveling it was a race to the end game content.

the world quest stuff there can be alot of it to do but its mainly to get things like artifact power now. You have a single weapon for say dps and in that weapon, demon hunter at least you have fel artifact, shadow artifact, and another one and you pick up artifacts and they level up your weapon. Then the weapon has ability buffs in it which gets upgraded with artifact power. so some world quests give you better gear, some give you artifact power, some give legion resources or something.

But flying in broken shore is only earned after a long winded grind. Think you have to explore everywhere, do every quest, do 100 world quests, i did 10 today in the space 2-3 hours and a couple other things.

you still get the same dickheads in dungeons though, if your not flawless oh your a fucking noob go learn how play the game hahaha. some things never change

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See I am the problem, the older I get the less interested I am in learning how to play new games :D

I just don’t want to go through the whole learning possess of it.

Also Massively needs to fix comment section this is getting comically thin..

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primal

tbh its the same games just new bosses with the same old stuff. Also one thing i found interesting is the dungeons have almost a deadly boss mods feel to it. pretty sure it tells you to get out the way and stuff.

yeah we’ll be into 1 letter lines soon haha

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deekay_plus

keeping in mind infinity had a working and player tested tech demo a decade ago showing alot of the “totally new things” in sc.

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Gene Elder

But did it have tacos?

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I remember it being quite the bug circus, lol.

I try not to promote the notion that everything CIG is doing with SC is new or unique or whatever because it’s obviously an exaggeration on many levels. But it’s not untrue to say that they ARE doing some things, and in certain ways, that other developers either gave up on or haven’t been able to just burn the R&D on and get it implemented and at a high level of quality and detail.

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I think it’s more to do with the fact that all this realism will end up being not fun to play. How many times can you lift a box up before you go ” oh I just want to play the game ” on paper that stuff looks cool but in reality, I think it’s going to end up being boring. This is a game at the end of the day.

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So it’s more to do with your opinion on SC being fun rather than if they’re actually attempting something that others haven’t? Those are very different debates. The important question is if CIG can have the cake and eat it too–ie, make this incredibly ambitious feature set at such ambitious detail AND get it to perform well AND make it fun.

Only time will tell. But, that’s why this is an iterative process. Game development is making shit wrong, broken, ugly, and not fun a thousand different times until that one time you hopefully get it right. Believe me, CIG knows that.

It’s highly likely that CR will find out eventually in testing that shit is gonna have to get dialed back for the sake of fun.

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Yep. There is every chance in the world that by the time SC comes out it will be launched into a very saturated market.

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Think of MobiGlas as your all-in-one User Interface. In a traditional sense its your inventory, quests, character sheet, overhead/world map, trading post, equipment and skills build, mounts, already obtained achievements, etc. There is no pop-up window. It’s all in your ‘wrist watch’.

Very impressive tech that took a long time to develop.

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so like teh menus ui in every other game ever made with the novelty of being visible to other players. XD

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Gene Elder

just like some tacos come with flour shells, and some tacos come with corn shells. a menu UI has to start somewhere, and there is only so much you can do with a UI before it is not longer a UI.. like if I decided to make a taco flat.. it then becomes something else.. it might even be called a pizza. a taco pizza.

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impossible, tacos can’t be pizza nor pizzas can be tacos

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Ken – I’m not buying it. Italian and Mexican food fusion is an abomination. Like putting ketchup on a hot dog.

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so like teh menus ui in every other game ever made with the novelty of being visible to other players. XD

Not quite, no. Would you like to explain since you don’t know? It’s a long winded type but I can and you know I’d love to.

Edit: deekay_plus, reading through your comments thus far, your message of discontent is still the same regarding Star Citizen so nah, I not going to explain. The information is there if you want to find and read it but I know you don’t care.

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not quite how? you can dress this up any way you like it doesn’t make it unusual or unique amongst these things.

even the visibility to other players thing is a done before thing.

it’s a nice lore based immersive way to do this stuff but ultimately it’s your typical mmo ui by any other name.

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Gene Elder

Just like tacos. Some tacos are better than others, but you will never know until you try evey tacos ever made.. and you have to finish making a taco before you can rightfully compare that taco to other tacos.

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shear

That’s correct. Then why is this taco being compared to every other taco as if it’s the best taco ever before its even finished?

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Cause the taco cult says this will be the best taco in the history of tacos.

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Gene Elder

i dont know who is comparing tacos.. because i tend to ignore people who compare real tacos to unfinished tacos. i dont lose sleep over unfinshed tacos, eaten tacos.. or people who hate tacos.. but i do enjoy making fun of them.
“These are not the tacos your looking for.”

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primal

well end of the day its a massive step up compared to the current version so thats why its new… for SC game

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i mean the current version is literaly 99% placeholders with the remaining 1% being pretty much useless so ofc it’s a massive step up if it’s actually functional.

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Gene Elder

youre whining about placeholders? placeholders? Chris Roberts game is doomed because he is using placeholders.. as in something to hold the place of something until it gets created and filled in. WTF is wrong with you?

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primal

well placeholder removed the UI is a bit trash currently, gets the job done but not very elegant. This on a visual scale and i suppose functionality will be much better

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i don’t think the part that does anything is particularly useful. i mean all it does is pretty much track the current beacons that need to be turned back on and it’s almost always too late to go to them based on the mobiglass information.

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Gene Elder

The corn shell on a taco is just a shell. And its usually made of corn. So when I make a corn shell for a taco, there is only so much I can do with both corn, and shells. It still has to be made to hold the ingrediants of a taco, and it should be made of corn.

So whining about a corn shell on a taco not being made of something other than corn is silly.

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primal

yeah depends if someone else has got to it first while you’ve been in flight but thats the name of the game. get there first haha.

im just watching the episode now. the new mobiglass is significantly better in every way. its like the current version was just there to give you a way to go to stuff rather than something anything close to a final version.

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shear

CR could show a wheel and be like “check this new thing out man” and 90% of the backers would be like ” how innovative!”

I love it.

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Hebel

Yeah show me another game which has this kind of UI.
Oh sorry, i have forgotten, every other game has it already done before.

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Dead Space. It’s up in the comment section.

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Gene Elder

and oh my garsh.. because of that, no other game should ever try and do something simular, no matter how much it might need something simular. Dead Space did it, therefore it can never be done again, or better. End of line.

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shear

Actually, I never said that. So I don’t know what you’re on about now.

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Ken from Chicago

Btw, last week’s ATV started with 90 issues before releasing STAR CITIZEN Alpha 3.0.
Yesterday had Eric Kieron Davis on Around The Verse saying they fixed 32 issues but that created 20 issues resulting in:

90 issues minus
32 issues fixed
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58 issues plus
20 issues raised
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78 issues remaining

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cmdr_cotic

So in effect, 12 issues fixed over the last week.

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Ken from Chicago

Correct. A net of 12 issues fixed.

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A Dad Supreme

MobiGlass, which is basically a super fancy in-game smartwatch …”
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One thing Star Citizen is very good at… they’ve named, branded and copyrighted more fake ‘real’ products in their game than real products that exist in our actual world.

edit: spelled it wrong. Apparently, it’s “mobiGlas”?

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Ken from Chicago

Good catch. It’s been edited.

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Utakata

“Smartwatch”…sounds more like a program that alerts CiG when a certain “Warlord” shows up to troll articles about Star Citizen. o.O

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A Dad Supreme

Don’t need a watch for that.

There are plenty of SC defenders here who watch for Smart already.

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deekay_plus

they are here with or without dmsart around. as they post every single sc article on the internet to their chat venues without fail.

even as we learned, articles that simply use some sc concept art and are otherwise unrelated directly.

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Gene Elder

Im thinking of a new taco, a taco so magnificient it makes other tacos pale in comparison.. but I wont be able to compare it until I actually finish making the taco. To compare it. With another taco. My taco. Their tacos. To compare. Tacos.

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Utakata

There’s likely a lot of non-defenders and detractors who look out for him too.

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And the reality is if deekay_plus didn’t care about the game at all, he wouldn’t bother posting but he’s gotta try and detract for his own reasons.

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Utakata

To be fair, it’s not good form to call someone out like that. He didn’t even mention you until you brought it up.

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deekay_plus

you guys act like the hordes are at the gates of rome on every sc article on the internet wether or not i’m present or not.

hint: it might help if you guys and CIG didn’t oversell and over defend every little trivial aspect of the game as if it’s never been done before to comical extent.

you’re a fanboy for a game that has been nonstop hype for 5 years with out producing legitimate results, at some point you have to take a seat and deal with the fact that it’s not the second coming of jesus in video game form so far and has severe questions about CIG’s ability to deliver with their funding levels even with their incredibly cynical and predatory revenue practices.

and let’s be real here – my criticsms are not only quite valid – they’re incredibly mild compared to the very real shit storm that is on the horizon for this game when it launches and the larger portion of existing customers actually looks at it for the first time – and any new customers try it.

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Gene Elder

hint: it might help if you guys and CIG didn’t oversell and over defend every little trivial aspect of the game

help what exactly? why does anyone need to sell or defend the game? Ill tell you why.. because of people like you.
Here is the thing. Chris Roberts put out a little video where he made a pitch to the internet community. He spoke directly to nerds like me and everyone else who loves good science fiction and he asked us to fund a game with a very particular form of gameplay. He told us it would be like owning the millennium falcon. There are hundred of thousands of us who watched that video and decided to invest and donate to allow Chris Roberts to make the game he envisioned.
We are still investing and donating to allow Chris Roberts to make the game he envisioned.
So why are you hating on a game that is not complete until Chris Roberts says its complete? What has you so invested that people expect you to find every star citizen article you can find just to bad mouth it? Has star citizen hurt your feelings in some way, so you must obsessively stalk it and hurt it in any way you can? Did star citizen break up with you and you just cant move on?
It not your duty to stop people from investing or donating. Nobody asked you to be the defender of peoples money or dreams. I could sit you down and lecture you all day long about the negatives of Tacos.. but in the end, no matter how valid my points may be, there are going to be people who fucking love tacos, and want me to shut the fuck up about tacos so they can move on.
How about you eat some fucking tacos and move on.

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because of people like me shit posting on a blog i shitpost about a variety of games on?

i don’t see guild wars 2 fans posting every article that vaguely references gw2 to the gw2 subreddit to brigade.

absolutely no one on this site is trying to ruin the game or stop people from buying it. and the fact you think it is shows you are just another brigader from teh fandom which works over time to earn this fandom the reputation it has for being cultish and toxic.

so hwo about you shut the fuck up and go back to reddit where you can fap to your echo chamber with out us massively shit posters doing what we do on this site for every game we’re interested in and move on?

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Gene Elder

So SC did break up with you. You got your feeling hurts and you cant help but cry like a little girl every time someone has something nice to say about it.
I dont know how a stupid game could hurt your tendle little fragile feeling so bad that you keep comeing back to talk shit about it every chance you get, but it must have really gotten under your skin. Instead of seeing valid points, I see a vendetta, and emotional, thin skinned need to get back at SC for being mean to you.
how sad.

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deekay_plus

some nice projection there.

i crticize every game i play and have interest in, which star citizen is both those things.

with more than 1 reply per minute for the last 30 minutes tho you seem rather upset about something.

did someone on the internet say something you thought was mean about your precious?

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Gene Elder

someone insulted my taco.. so i must taco that taco before i taco all over their taco ass tacos.

because I have not had their taco, all I know is that I hate their taco for saying they are good tacos and since its not the taco i image a taco should taco, im going to say taco about that taco because taco is taco and i cant let people defend a taco that is so not a taco that i expect a taco to be.

so there!

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Do I make an Omni-tool reference? Glitch from ReBoot? That wrist thing Leela from Futurama wears? A Pip-Boy? So many choices…

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remember don, as always when star citizen does a thing it’s never been done before. XD

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Gene Elder

just like tacos. people make tacos, and no tacos will every be better than the original taco.

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your anaology would almost work if it wasn’t CIG and their fans that constantly talk shit about and disparage other games and game companies.

it’s really rude and really ignorant and none of you are the least bit apologetic about your whole NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE shit you constantly do for the silliest and most mundane things.

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Ken from Chicago

That does sound bad. What other games and game companies has CIG disparaged?

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Gene Elder

no one is talking bad about other games. where did you come up with that load of tacos. Is that your problem? you think someone insulted your taco? point at them and I will taco-slap their ass for you and you can stop being such a negative taco.

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deekay_plus

literally. in. this.thread.

what is your problem? did someone hurt your feelings by being critical about your favouite in development entertainment product? so sad, much mean.

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Gene Elder

my feeling hurt? more like im making myself hungry for tacos.

you on the other hand look like a bitter, sad little hater who has to make up reasons as he goes along to justify his hate for a stupid ass game. youre hilarious dude. viva la taco!

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you really have no idea do you? you have such a victim complex to drive your little crusade.

the fact you think i hate the game is hilarious. shows how thin skinned you are.

protip: you’re in for a rough time when the game finally launches if you think i hate it. XD

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Gene Elder

well it is my taco to feel about however i like. nobody asked you to defend my taco or warm me about any impending tacos. I am a grown man, i can do with my taco whatever i damn well taco.. so why must you put your taco in other peoples business? who made you the supreme defender of all tacos? nobody, thats who, which is why its do hilarious that your telling me my feeling are going to be hurt. (sadfaced emoji).
your the kind of person who tells people what they can and cannot do, while at the same time crying about freedom to do what you want. hypocrite.

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shear

So unless we buy everything CR says we are haters? We can’t have any critical thought or voice it?

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Gene Elder

you can be a hater, just dont be suprised when i compare a GAME to something as insignificant as a taco. people went in eyes open, and noboby, especially Deez_taco has been asked to save us from ourselves.

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But he isn’t trying to save anyone, we’re both pointing out things that are sort of apparent and people end up attacking us for it because it’s not something they want to see. If both of us were here praising SC nobody would have an issue with us, why is that?

If you don’t agree with him and are left with such displeasure don’t respond to him and move on.

He is right too, we aren’t hating the game, in fact, I would be willing to bet we both like it quite a bit, this is why we’re here, but we like a lot of games, and we criticize them all, equally. If you can’t see anything that is sort of BS about SC then you’re a little more than a fanboy.

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Gene Elder

lol. is it apparent that I like tacos?
its also apparent that Deez_tacos hates SC for some reason, and he is going to crusade to save people the pain of being disappointed.
Now that im done with dinner.. ill go back to living my life until the next SC article, and ill make you this bet.. Deez_tacos will be there, and he will have nothing good to say about it, and somewhere in there he will say people should avoid it at all costs because they will only end up disappointed. Again.
patterns are pretty easy to follow.

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shear

I like you. Haha. You get it. You get what I was saying for over a year now.

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deekay_plus

watched the first 3.0 demo with a friend, and she was confused why chris was emphasizing the elevator so much and the crowd was going so wild for it.

so utterly bizzarre.

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shear

And… It doesn’t work… They said they are having problems with it in 3.0… Wut?

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Hebel

You mean as always when SC does a thing every indie game developer has it already done before.

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some are indie games like rodina for example. some stuff like their fancy avatar animations are done by published games like gta.

i decided a while ago chris roberts subscribes to the mike kern school of game design in that he plays a game on the weekend and walks into work and tells people to do stuff like the game he played. lol

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Gene Elder

dont you hate people who only make tacos on the weekends. how can they claim to be taco makers when they only do it part time.. and how do we even know when chris roberts makes his tacos? do you watch him making tacos? i dont think so.

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wat

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deekay_plus

chris roberts apparently remembers the division 2013 e3 trailer better than most.

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Gene Elder

Im sure he remembers the Taco Taqaria taco of march 2015 as well. damn those where great tacos.

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division 2013 e3 trailer

Such a promising game that (much like Star Citizen) was going to try new things. Open world, full city, faction based, robust player market, all trashed so Ubisoft could release it to compete with Call of Duty.. What the developer had in mind and what Ubisoft made them deliver were two completely different games.

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it was open world with full recreation of part of new york. idk where you got the faction thing – other than there being factions of bad guys.

teh game lived up to it’s marketting tho aside from the endgame which wasn’t heavily marketted at all. aside from the darkzone which was bad becuase of the nature of rpg shooters and hardly unique to division.

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Alex Hyer

The mobiglas has been talked about since 2012.

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deekay_plus

that implies a hilarious revision to the history of it’s development.

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Gene Elder

I remember talking about tacos as far back as 1983. Damn tacos are awesome.

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