Leaderboard: Did Guild Wars 2’s preview weekend convince you to buy Path of Fire?

This past weekend, the gaming segment of my Twitter feed was positively dominated by chatter about Guild Wars 2’s Path of Fire expansion free preview weekend. I even saw a few of my guildies dip back in, which shouldn’t have surprised me — quite a lot of our readers and friends told us in last week’s Leaderboard poll that they had plans to try the free weekend, many of them no doubt trying to decide whether to buy it and return to the game or even play it for the first time.

The question is, did it work? Did Guild Wars 2’s preview weekend convince you to buy Path of Fire? Let’s hit the polls and find out.

Did Guild Wars 2's preview weekend convince you to buy Path of Fire?

  • I preordered Path of Fire even before the preview weekend or because of a reason other than the preview weekend. (38%, 284 Votes)
  • I preordered Path of Fire because of my experience in or coverage of the preview weekend. (9%, 66 Votes)
  • I played the preview weekend and am still on the fence about buying Path of Fire. (13%, 99 Votes)
  • I did not play the preview weekend and am still on the fence about buying Path of Fire. (9%, 67 Votes)
  • I played the preview weekend and will not buy Path of Fire because of that experience. (7%, 51 Votes)
  • I decided not to buy Path of Fire for reasons not having to do with the preview weekend experience. (11%, 81 Votes)
  • No answer / elf butts / just want to see standings. (14%, 102 Votes)

Total Voters: 750

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justiceburrito
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justiceburrito

Sadly no.
It’s a wonderful MMO. Beautiful to look at, fun to play (minus the inventory slog.) But you know when you reach that point with a game where going back just isn’t fun anymore? It’s not the game’s fault. For me – I just can’t go home again.

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Jonny Sage

The worst part about GW2 is that I cant play for more than 5 mins without having to clean out my inventory.

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Jonny Sage

Played POF, but wasnt impressed enough to buy it at that price. Im still grinding through HOT content.

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Thomas

For all I promised myself I wouldn’t buy it, yeah, the preview won me over, and I preordered PoF. Just seeing the Crystal Desert again and the promise of also seeing parts of Elona won me over. (The cool mounts didn’t hurt either.) It was nice to see the return of the heart quest as well.

I am still worried about the general difficulty of the expansion (so I may regret buying PoF in the long run, as I did at first with HoT), but — dang — ArenaNet knows how to design a gorgeous and intriguing game.

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kelvar

For what it’s worth, I read that the difficult is much less than HoT and that hero points will be soloable (I mean, many are now but presumably they will be easier to solo if desired)

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TBPlayer2112

What little of the preview I played I did enjoy it a lot. Being able to see something and ask, ‘What’s over there?’…and then being able to get there was…refreshing. Really involved with ESO atm but I’m probably gonna pick up PoF either at launch or soon after.

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Malcolm Swoboda

I played it, looks cool, but in no rush to get anything GW2.

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Dušan Frolkovič

Did not play the preview, was spending the weekend catching up on the whole of Season 3.
Had a blast, something about their writing is just right up my alley, so preordered PoF after that.

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Mr_Planthead

The good news is I didnt see a single vine coming up out of the ground! But it didn’t really get me interested, maybe when I see more about it I may change my mind. Also, did anyone else think the sand sharks animation just looked completely stupid?

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Peregrine Falcon

I was on the fence about Path of Fire. I played the preview weekend and it convinced me to pre-order.

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George Sweatman

Still on the fence. Which is positive in this case… as I went into the demo looking for anything that resembled the horridly unfun design that HoT was on release and consequently bail on the expansion entirely.

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Rottenrotny

I purchased the standard edition PoF simply because I enjoy GW2, not because of any preview.

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wratts

Played for an hour or two. Seemed like more of the same. I don’t hate GW2, it’s just not compelling enough to regularly make my rotation

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Jeremiah Wagner

Nope. The combat is just so……. I dunno….. boring I guess. Its feels like watching a fight more then actually fighting for some reason.

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Jonny Sage

Thats odd because I always felt like GW2 selling point was the opposite. You dont just tab target and run a macro. If you dont move you die. If you dont swap weps and use utilities constantly, you die. If you stand on a Mordrem Sniper line of death for more than a millisec you die.

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Sorenthaz

No thanks, I have other non-subscription MMOs I can fall back on if I get bored of XIV.

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threeknee

I will get PoF but I skipped the preview weekend because I didn’t want to spoil it for myself.

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Toy Clown

This is what I did as well: Bought PoF and stayed out of the expansion so I wouldn’t spoil it for myself.

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Alex Willis

Jumped in and played some PvP. Had fun. Not sure about the expansion, given that I have yet to complete the Thorns content. Odds are good I will get it eventually, but no rush right now.

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Nater

Apparently, you don’t even need to complete it to play PoF. However, I sort of understand the completionist mentality.

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Ironweakness

I wanted to try the new expansion during the preview weekend but my laptop had other plans and chose Friday afternoon to drop dead. I’m up and running now with a new rig but unfortunately I have been unable to convince it to download the GW2 client. It’s the only game client thus far that refuses to take up residence on my new hard drive.

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Veldan

It’s tempting but every time I look into GW2 I realize I’m doing it only because I currently have no MMO, not because I actually want to play GW2. I’ll stay out of it, like I should.

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Brown Jenkin

Did pricing for HoT ever drop? If not then I’ll probably just pick up PoF, frankly the only thing that has me on the fence is that I’ve still got tons of HoT content I haven’t finished.

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Dave

HoT and PoF are $30 each or $50 for both. Besides that the base game is free.

Of course, if you haven’t played at all in the last year, you’d have to buy all of Living World Season 3 for those story steps AND open world maps (unlike LS2, there were new lvl80 Maps for every LS3 “episode”)

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Sally Bowls

TY. Wait. In addition to everything else, I also need to buy the LS, which I don’t want/need, just to open some maps???????? Srsly?

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Dan Green

GW2’s ongoing story content is released in Seasons. During a Living Story season, every 2-3 months you will automatically unlock, for free, the new episode by logging in any time before the next one releases. If you don’t log in at all during that 2-3 month period, you will have to buy that episode later for ~$2 USD.

Each episode of LS season 3 included:
– 1 new open world map
– 3-4 instanced story missions
– a pile of new achievements related to the new map
– a handful of new weapon/armor skins unlocked in the new map or its achievements
– a new currency collected at that map and some new equipment or upgrades that you can buy with it

If you want/need to catch the story of the season and you didn’t own the game before this or didn’t log on during that time, you will need to buy them. If you, as you say, don’t want/need the LS, you can ignore it. Some end game equipment is more easily purchased or earned through those maps, but aside from that, unless you want access to the specific cosmetics or the story, it’s not like you’ll be at a disadvantage as a player by not running through it.

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Toy Clown

You don’t need to buy them to play any other area, which was stated by development a few weeks ago at the reveal. If you only have the base game and want PoF? You can do that. There is lots of content in the other areas, but it’s not necessary in order to play through PoF. That is the beauty of “linear progression”, in that there’s no extra levels or tiers of gear added that make exotics obsolete with new content.

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Arktouros

There’s a lot I liked looking at GW2 again this week/end.

I really liked, more than POF, the fact that WvW feels fully self sustained now. There’s Ascended gear. There’s Legendary gear. There’s reward tracks. There’s weekly reward objectives. I could pretty much just play WvW and feel like I’m progressing without having to come back to do boring old PvE garbage to farm out the latest gear set or stat combination for WvW. I really hated Legendary armor was raid only, and now it’s not. Time gate on WvW tickets is annoying but seems semi reasonable as of this time (I heard it was worse).

POF I’m not sure on so I didn’t go in yet. The main thing I continue to be concerned over is specializations and game balance. Their latest game balance patch was just peppered with more examples of bad game balancing design and thinking. When I look at the abilities and traits of the new specializations they’re all super strong. This leads me to think they’re just going to sell us an expansion with overpowered specializations then once we’re bought in they’re going to gut all these a few months later once we’re comfortable and the bulk of their sales have gone through.

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Alex Willis

I’m in the same boat as you. Played some PvP and WvWvW and had a lot of fun. I think I’ll stick with that for now, and if I have enough fun, will jump on board the PoF wagon.

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Bhima Jenkins

Thanks for the feedback on WvW. I haven’t played GW2 for awhile, and I enjoyed WvW but it didn’t have much in the way of progression. Sounds like that has been mostly resolved so I’ll likely start up again in PoF.

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CapnLan

I played it for a good chunk of time and do want to buy it now. The only reason I haven’t yet is because I don’t know if I want to bundle it with HoT yet. I’m leaning toward skipping it and just go with PoF but eh, I might think about it a bit more. I’m in no rush.

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Arktouros

Story wise you could probably skip HOT, but the LS3 seems to setup the POF story line a lot more.

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rahkeesh

LS3 storyline is mostly cleaning up loose ends/ GW1 fan service and only the smallest introduction to the PoF antagonist happens in ep 5. I have to think they will review the small amount of relevant info there in PoF’s intro. It is nothing like LS2 that was the entirely centered on the HoT antagonist.

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Sally Bowls

Clearly skip HoT story and avoid as much as possible. But how important is gliding and the other HoT masteries and the nine specializations?

Q: Do I need to own Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns™ in order to play Path of Fire?

Owning Heart of Thorns isn’t required to access Path of Fire content. However, some content is exclusive to Heart of Thorns.

You must purchase Heart of Thorns to unlock and use the gliding mastery, as well as all other masteries introduced in and exclusive to that expansion. You will be able to complete all of the content in Path of Fire without the use of any Heart of Thorns-exclusive masteries.
You must purchase Heart of Thorns to unlock and use the 9 elite specializations introduced with that expansion.
Path of Fire includes access to the revenant profession, but not the Herald elite specialization. If you only own Path of Fire, you will be able to create a revenant character and unlock the Renegade elite specialization.
You must purchase Heart of Thorns to claim the new guild hall released in Path of Fire, and access the Scribe crafting discipline to fully upgrade your guild hall.

rahkeesh
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rahkeesh

What we’ve seen shows mostly flat land and zero mushrooms/wallows/whatever from HoT masteries.

There will be times gliding makes some things a bit easier but it looks far from essential. Mounts already have some means of mitigating fall damage and you will glide horizontally much slower than on mount, so typically better to drop to the ground and mount up anyway.

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Dave

Not mentioned there, but should be stated is that the 2 Raids currently in the game require HoT to access as well.

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Sally Bowls

That complicates things, not being able to raid is a benefit of not buying HoT. :-)

abyssalstar
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abyssalstar

I pre-ordered the day it announced. Elona, mounts, new elite specs that look miles above the original set. It was also clear Anet learned a lot from HoT and put much more time and work into PoF. They listened to the community and took heed.

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GamingSF

Was pleasantly surprised by the demo, though only saw a few hours Sunday evening due to RL stuff. Will probably pre-order but not for a week or so as I’m too busy to get much value out of the HoT unlock bundle atm.

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life_isnt_just_dank_memes

I played 10 minutes of the new map after the initial story instance and purchased it. I have multiple purchased GW2 base accounts from before the f2p transition and did NOT purchase HoT.

I feel like this is a return to form for Arenanet and also a venture into new territory for them in a direction that I am so so pleased about.

My criticisms are that they haven’t addressed the Guild Hall issues and how guild halls are so intrinsically tied to HoT. I hope that they get rid of hiding guild stuff behind pay wall. Hopefully there is less player segregation as well.

looking forward to trying out the elite specs this weekend for sure.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

I’m a sucker for pre-orders, particularly if extra goodies are thrown in. But not here.

I’m waiting until after launch and people have a good idea what the expansion actually looks like. But I did enjoy the raptor mount and if it’s possible to get mount masteries without all the BS that was in HoT, then I might get the expansion when it’s on sale.

They really messed up with HoT and it isn’t going to be easy to get turned-off players turned on again.

abyssalstar
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abyssalstar

PoF Masteries are totally separate from HoT.

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Sally Bowls

I guess it left me convinced, but not until a couple of price drops. I want to see how mounts turn out and for arguably the most important content in the game, the content that people will determine whether to give them money, I was expecting something more than put out fires with fire extinguishers; not bad but not jaw dropping. I am slightly concerned if that is their “you only get one chance to make a first impression content.”

But it seems like a step up from HoT. HoT sold a bit over a hundred thousand copies and I would think PoF does better. Although whether Blizzard announces their next expansion at Gamescom or Blizzcon might affect how much attention/sales PoF gets. Although only slightly since it so far seems perhaps to be targeting existing customers

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Zim Gunsberg

Actually estimates are that HoT sold just under 600,000 copies…

miol
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miol

I was expecting something more than put out fires with fire extinguishers

Like everything else in the preview, outside of the very first few minutes of the instanced intro!? ;P

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MKlwr

I got it because my guildies are going to play it. I didn’t bother with the preview weekend because I am still getting my first character to 80, so most of the game is new to me anyway.

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Roger Melly

I didn’t buy the last expansion but if that is free once the new expansion releases I will play through the content and see what I feel like after that ( it’ll also give me a time to see what feedback is like for the new expansion )

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Sally Bowls

HoT is the same price as PoF, $29.99, both for 49.99

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Paragon Lost

I see HoT listed as $20.00 if you are buying PoF. Here are two screen captures..

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Sally Bowls

Yes. The cheapest is 29.99 for either. You can add Hot onto PoF for $20 or buy a collect with both for the same $49.99

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kanbe

I didn’t give the demo a ton of time but nothing I saw grabbed me enough to pull me back in.

miol
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miol

I never pre-order anything regardless, does that mean I’m on the fence? Not, really.

But it’s a matter of principle. ;P

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Line

I liked what I saw in the preview weekend, but I haven’t pre-ordered.

I will play the expansion, so I may as well get the goodies. But I’m in no hurry to buy it, it’s not a race.
Pre-orders are a weird thing.

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thalendor

The demo this weekend gave me a mostly favorable impression. Not enough to get me to pre-order, but enough to get me to pay attention to what people have to say over the weeks after it releases to see if the problems I had with HoT are well and truly moot in PoF. As long as I don’t hear about massive amounts of content locked behind intricate mount-based jumping puzzles, anything about “verticality”, or anything similar chances are good I’ll pick it up though…

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Castagere Shaikura

Same here, i don’t trust ArenaNet enough to just flat out buy without hearing what people say a month after release. I won’t be suckered on the hype train.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

Once burned, twice shy.

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Wolfyseyes

Yep. I’m a sucker for a free demo, and though I have no idea what’s going on with the story beats (yet), the coverage I’ve seen and my initial impressions got me to buy in.

Probably a dumb idea, but then it wouldn’t be my first and will most assuredly not be my last.

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BalsBigBrother

I didn’t get too much time in the demo due to other commitments so I am still very much on the fence. I hope the subsequent weekend will help me make up my mind.

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J W

I think people who were going to buy PoF didn’t need the weekend to convince them. I think the expansion is mostly selling to those still playing the game.

The question is can it pull in anyone new?

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Eliandal

Unless they change up the first few encounters (and they already may have, I know I left my rather…constructive ;P feedback on the initial combat and new people) they’ve already lost anyone new. They feel like they play for veterans. Still on the fence, I may decide for sure after specialization play..but who knows

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Sally Bowls

That was my impression. Not that it is a bad thing; giving existing customers what they like is a safe, stable idea, OTOH it does not grow the brand.

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McGuffn

The price is new player friendly. I think they’re clearly making a play there. In terms of the beta weekend, they should have just put you down in the city where the good stuff is and forget about the first story instance.

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Sally Bowls

I have not heard [m]any complain about the price, so it seems like a good idea.

I initially agreed, but upon reflection, I disagreed with “new player friendly” price. It is certainly existing player friendly. Since April, a new player could get everything in the game for $29.99. Come launch, to get the whole game – e.g. get all specializations and gliding – it is 49.99 which is no different than HoT launch and $20 more than April. And if your idea of the whole game is literally the whole game then there is another $10+ in LS. It is not a lot of money. But for me, friendly would be more along the lines of one item in the shop for all content, not two expansions and living story before even starting up the gem and lockbox sales.

In the future, if we release further Guild Wars 2 expansions, we plan to offer all of the prior expansions, the core game, and the latest expansion for one single purchase price.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/pre-purchase-community-address/

I don’t think that ArenaNet has kept to that.

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Emmanuel Carabott

I dont think it’s fair to say Anet didnt keep to their single price promise , though i guess we’ll know for sure when they release their next expansion. When they made their promise they were charging $50 for the expansion and indeed now they’re offering everything for $50 as they promised back then. I dont think its fair holding their offering a new package with just the expansion for a lower price against them.

If next expansion they once again offer a full package for $50 then I’d consider them keeping their word personal, if on the other hand they charge $70 for it then I’ll agree with you.

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Matthäus Wey

I guess it’s kinda hard for anet to get new people in… A friend of mine who also plays MMORPG a lot watched the presentation with my and was kinda disappointed how less they annouced compared to FF14 / WoW.

Don’t get me wrong they indeed showed a lot with the new specializations, but for someone who only plays one character at a time, mounts and bounties (which are pretty basic I guess) it wasn’t that much stuff.

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Nathan Aldana

I mean. it pulled me back in, largely because it was a good signal they were reversing course from HoT’s “fun” start. But dunno how compelling that is to others

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Xephyr

PoF was a buy for me before it was even announced. It’s the only MMO that holds my attention.

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Greaterdivinity

Voted “played but still on the fence” but I’m still very much leaning towards not buying, at least initially. I’ll give the subsequent weekends a try to see if that changes anything.

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Dug From The Earth

im on the fence too, didnt play the demo. Any specific reasons why you still are after trying it?

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Greaterdivinity

Wasn’t a fan of mount controls at all. It’s an extension of character controls so it involves actually turning and movement speed ramp-ups etc., but turns it up to 11 which made unenjoyable to me.

Coupled with me not being too hot on the movement gimmick for them. The design is sound, but I’m not a fan of taking the game in that direction.

Gorgeous zones from what I saw, but the first bit of content didn’t really hook me, either. Was already leaning towards no, given my lukewarm reception of the expansions proposed content/features and especially after still being super salty about HoT, so this largely just added a bit of extra weight to my “pass” arguments. Will give the new guardian specialization a try next weekend, but I can’t say I’m terribly excited about it going in.

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abyssalstar

You’re the first I’ve heard of not liking the mount controls. Everyone else I’ve seen loves it. Can’t please everyone, of course.

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Nathan Aldana

I actually bought it before just to reward them for showing they had learned from the disaster that was HoT’s opening weeks. The lower pricepoint and the obvious focus on solo and small group content, along with elona being my fave GW continent made me pretty happy to reward them for this direction

The demo did solidify that I had made a good choice though.

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