Make My MMO: Everybody poops in Star Citizen (September 9, 2017)

Remember a few weeks ago when Star Citizen confirmed survival mechanics like eating and sleeping? Welp, add pooping to the list. This week in MMO crowdfunding, Star Citizen’s Around the Verse focused on the game’s stamina system, which touches on the character’s needs and risks and notifications about them, including “getting drunk, needing to go to the toilet, all the little things that can affect the player temporarily, and then we can expand this to go even to stuff like long-term diseases, depressurization sickness, radiation sickness – all these things that won’t be something the player can get rid of instantly.”

Meanwhile, the three City of Heroes spiritual successors teamed up for a panel at PAX, Shroud of the Avatar honored a player’s father, Dual Universe hit 10K backers, Dogma: Eternal Night implemented combat, and Chronicles of Elyria demoed jousting, plus so many goodies from PAX! Read on for more on what’s up with MMO crowdfunding over the last couple of weeks and the regular roundup of all the crowdfunded MMOs we’re following.

Star Citizen’s toilets

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Campaigns and crowdfunded MMOs we’re watching

3001SQ (Société des Mondes Virtuels) – Kickstarter unsuccessful. Work continues.
AdventureQuest 3D (Artix Entertainment) – Raised 368k; beta began Oct 2016.
Albion Online (Sandbox) – Launched July 2017.
Antraxx (Team Antraxx) – Kickstarter canceled.
Ascent: The Space Game (Fluffy Kitten Studios) – Successful KS. Fully launched 2016.
Ashes of Creation (Intrepid Studios) – Successful KS.
Broke Protocol (Cylinder) – Unsuccessful KS. In free early access.
Camelot Unchained
(City State) – Kickstarter successful; open donations/packages.
Caribbean Conquest (Invenio) – First KS canceled, second ended unsuccessfully.
Contested Space (Zon)
Crowfall (ArtCraft) – Kickstarter win, open packages, Indiegogo crowdfunding ongoing.
Chronicles of Elyria (Soulbound) – Kickstarter successful, open packages.
Citadel of Sorcery (MMO Magic, Inc.) – Open donations.
City of Titans (Missing Worlds Media) – Successful KS; launch planned for fall 2018.
Descent Underground (Descendent Studios) – Successful KS.
Divergence Online (Stained Glass Llama) – Three campaigns; now in KS early access.
Dogma: Eternal Night
(Prelude Games Factory): Kickstarter overdonor preorder packs.
Dragon of Legends (Thrive Games) – Successful Kickstarter.
Dual Universe (Novaquark) – Kickstarter funded, now has donor platform. Alpha delayed.
Eco (Strange Loop Games) – Funded, now in alpha.
Edengrad (Huckleberry Games) – Kickstarter funded; in early access.
Elite: Dangerous (Frontier Developments) – Funded and launched.
Empyrion Online (Eleon) – Kickstarter canceled; launched on Steam early access.
Epic Space (EpicSpace.net)
Ever, Jane (3 Turn Productions) – Now in open beta.
Global Adventures (SubaGames) – Kickstarter funded.
Gloria Victis (Black Eye Games) – Open donations, no end date; in early access.
Greed Monger (Greed Monger) – Abandoned, multiple times now.
Grim Dawn (Crate Entertainment) – Funded and launched.
Guns of Icarus (Muse) – Funded and launched.
Hero’s Song (Pixelmage) – KS canceled; Indiegogo. Canceled w/ refunds.
Infinity: Battlescape (I-Novae Studios)
HEX (HEX Entertainment) – Funded and launched.
Legends of Aria (Citadel Studios) – Kickstarted as Shards Online. Currently in alpha.
Life is Feudal (Bitbox): Indiegogo ended. Currently in beta.
LUX (Chimera) – Kickstarter canceled.
Maestros of the Anthymn (String Theory) – Kickstarter canceled.
Mekria (Infinity Online Studios) – Kickstarter canceled.
Midair (Archetype Studios) – Kickstarter successful.
Nebula Online (Mizar Games) Kickstarter canceled; launched in November.
Neo’s Land (NeoJac Entertainment) – Open donations, no end date.
Novus AEterno (Taitale Studios)
OrbusVR (Ad Alternum) – KS funded March 2017.
Overpower (Hydrant Games) – Kickstarter unfunded; heading to early access.
Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen (Visionary Realms) – Open donations, no end date.
Pathfinder Online (GoblinWorks) – Doom, mostly.
Planet Nomads (Craneballs) – Kickstarted, early access launched sans multiplayer.
Pixel Starships (SavySoda)
Project Gorgon (Elder Game) – Kickstarted in three tries + Indiegogo. In alpha.
Pumpkin Online (Monique) – Downgrading from MMORPG.
The Exiled (Fairytale Distillery) – fka Das Tal; 2015 KS unsuccesful. In Steam early access.
The Realm: Reawakened (Stephen Nichols) – Ongoing GoFundMe.
The Repopulation (Idea Fabrik) – Kickstarted twice by A&B. Back in alpha
ROKH (Darewise) – Kickstarter canceled; now in early access.
RUiN (Tarhead Studio) – Kickstarter successful.
The Stomping Land (Alex Fundora) – Abandoned.
Sacrament (Ferocity Unbound) – Kickstarter failed; Patreon ongoing.
Shadow’s Kiss (Clockwork Throne) – Ongoing Patreon.
Shroud of the Avatar (Portalarium) – Successful KS. Soft launch July 2016.
Star Citizen (Cloud Imperium) – Ongoing donations/packages.
TUG (Nerd Kingdom) – In middle of year-long revamp after funding surge.
Vigor Roads (NeuronHaze) – Kickstarter unsuccessful; early access planned for 2017.

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Melissa McDonald

I believe the best euphemism I’ve heard is Larry The Cable Guy declaring that he has to “go take the Browns to the Super Bowl”. ;-)

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primal

hahahaha just thought of this. Pilots in a multi crew ship whilst in a fierce battle needing go to the toilet

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FreecczLaw

As with everything I think there is a limit to how much of this type of thing makes the game better. I don’t mind some things, but this seems excessive to me.

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SirUrza

What about showers? Can we take showers in Star Citizen?

cmdr_cotic
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cmdr_cotic

That is one of the things they claim, apparently you will need to take a shower before some NPCs will talk to you…. which on paper might sound fine but in reality it might be really annoying.

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primal

It’ll be annoying just like all this survival BS. They have to be careful how they implement it otherwise people will leave it through how annoying it is. The eating stuff won’t be a problem if it rewards you, like taking time to eat gives you a boost to some stats like having more stamina etc like in warcraft eating certain stuff gives you a little boost to particular stats.

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Armsbend

So will the $15,000 buy-in super special club have better toilets? Can the wealthy people all shit together when they talk about the space peasants? Will it be possible to sneak your good friends in so they don’t have to vacate in the worst toilet in Andromeda Sector 9?

This could be a new move to sell toilet opportunities.

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Oleg Chebeneev

I love how devs briefly mention that they might add smells and usable toilets somewhere in distant future as minor immersive feature, and MO folks take it as SC turning into poop simulator.

cmdr_cotic
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cmdr_cotic

Perhaps the devs should focus n the here and now instead of letting their imagination wander off on stupid ideas for the future?

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Armsbend

Better yet – when they have their daily stupid ideas – don’t even write them down. Simply look at the room – hey dipsticks I think we actually have to build this piece of shit some day, then laugh and move on to actually coding the game (that is never going to be completed).

oldandgrumpy
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oldandgrumpy

SC is loosing the plot at this current point in time.

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Melissa McDonald

or you might say, ‘gone to pot’ ? LOL

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zeko_rena

I like the idea of radiation sickness but having to poop is going to be a pain in the ass, literally because I will never let my guy poop :)

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Melissa McDonald

a real man can hold it in

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cmdr_cotic

I wonder if they have mocapped an “Oh damn I’ve got to hold that in no matter what happens” walk to accompany a full poop gauge?

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Loopy

Hmm as much as i’m excited about this game coming out, i’m not sure that i enjoy the “realism” it’s bringing to the table. When i first thought of the next iteration of Freelancer, i definitely did not account for all the “survival” elements of it as well (food, hydration, radiation, and all that jazz). Poop jokes aside, like many posters before me stated – when i log into a game, i’m trying to relax and enjoy my spare time, not worry whether i’ll have enough food or water to be able to do content X…

cmdr_cotic
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cmdr_cotic

It could be really annoying and really cheesy as well. You spend a decent amount of time travelling across a star system and then run all the way down to see Miles Eckhart only for him to shun you while one of those ‘inner thoughts’ pops up that basically says “Miles thinks you smell…”

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primal

from what i understand its light survival meaning its not going kill you or anything if you dont bother eating at all but it might place a debuff on you. maybe you run out of stamina faster or something like that. the amount of times i died in ark survival evolved when i first had a go from either not finding food or dying in the cold at night i quit the game.

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Ket Viliano

“Survival” is PvE stuff, unless that is the focus of the game, it should not be in effect. Maybe do radiation stuff in a nebula while spacewalking, etc, but don’t bother the player with lame crud.

Estranged
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Estranged

“The Wolowitz Zero-Gravity Waste Disposal System (mockingly referred to as the Wolowitz Zero-Gravity Human Waste Distribution System by Raj) is a malfunctioning space toilet designed for NASA by Howard Wolowitz and deployed on the International Space Station.”

@Armsbend = Raj

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Ryan

I’m so glad I refunded this joke.

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Armsbend

Armsbend we are all waiting at the space station for you. It’s raid time ding-dong head!

Sorry guys I have to take a shit.
wait five minutes.
Okay everyone I’m ready to shoot those space rocks.

Sorry guys my shit meter is full too. I have got to vacate this…oh boy looks like I have space diarrhea. Could be a while guys so I don’t lose my Critical Hit Bonus.

This all sounds like fun.

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Hravik

We told you not to drink the space water.

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Ket Viliano

Watch out for the Space Herpes!

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Bryan Correll

The feature creep on this game has officially crept too far.

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Loopy

“The feature creep on this game has officially crapped too far.”

FTFY

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nobleeinherjar

I was going to make this same comment. It sounds like some of its systems are going to get in the way and interfere with actually playing the game.

Estranged
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Estranged

Next – a smelling hardware add-on for true immersion.

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Utakata

…and for the added bathroom feature creep, your character’s flatulence level will be entirely RNG. Making EVA’s “interesting”. /eww again :(

Estranged
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Estranged

How about color RNG? lol

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Hirku

You better RTFM…

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Stropp

Q. What did Mr. Spock find in the Enterprise’ toilet?
A. The captains log…

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primal

Hahaha. There was a comedian on mock the week, comedy show in the UK and one of the topics was things you wouldn’t hear on a sci-fi show and one of them said… Star date 29 36 24 captains log, still won’t flush will try again later ☺️ was in stitches laughing at that

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Roger Melly

There has always been a lot of drama surrounding the development of Star Citizen but I think it is fair to say it just turned into a farce .

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birini

Could this maybe be patched in after they deliver the game? It seems like a non-essential feature. It just seems like no one is capable of saying “no” in this company.

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Hravik

I mean, are we getting character perks for that? How many points can I spend in bladder control? If I ignore it during a raid, will my character crap his pants? Does that give me a debuff until I take the sure to be coming showers? If I log out in an odd place, will my character not be able to sleep and be tired when I log back in? Do I have to clip my toenails? Brush my teeth? Do I need regular health check ups? If I roll the dice wrong on character creation, will I need glasses? Do I need to take out the trash?

Inquiring minds want to know!

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Sleepy

Can you board enemy ships and steal their toilet paper?

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Melissa McDonald

They won’t have a square to spare

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primal

I wonder if the action will be one up one down and one to polish!!

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Ket Viliano

What a ****y thing to do.
:P

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primal

Wonder if you’ll be able to hear groaning noises when walking past the crapper if someone is in there. Or if you ate a hot curry night before and have explosive craps that sting your ring you’ll get a debuff in walking slowly for a few minutes after you’ve sand papered it with toilet roll. Would be quite funny to pass the time while in quantum travel

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shear

I mean come on! You come back home after a day of work and want to play a game, have fun.

“Hey, are you logging in?”
“Yeah, I’ll just have some food and be there in a min, then I’ll have some food in game and take a shit, then brush my teeth, and we’re good to go”

Is it real-time poop? Like some people take longer than others, will some characters take longer than others? Do you have to wipe? Is there a minigame attached to that? Can you get better at it with time, like gain wiping XP or something? Can I poop anywhere? Cause I am planning on taking dookies all over other people ships. It will be my space pirate calling card, taking dumps in my enemy ship.

“We are under attack! Bro shoot back!”
“My character is autistic!”

Honestly the more I read about this the funnier this is to me.

This sounds like a chore, not a game.

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shear

Oh, oh can I use the MobiGlass whilst I am taking a dump? Like sort my inventory and maybe do some trading on the side or something? Can I call other people whiles I am taking a dump? Like they showed in the GS presentation? Oh man, the questions are never ending.

Sorry, I am having too much fun with this.

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Ket Viliano

Never ask to see the “Captain’s Log”.
:p

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rafterman

This isn’t the game I backed. RSI are ridiculous and their “game” has become a joke.

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birini

I didn’t back. I feel very bad for those who did. Are the millions in dollars of ships they’ve already sold now worthless for not having lavatories?

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Phubarrh

They’re not heartless, I imagine players will be given a free bucket as a holiday gift.

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Armsbend

I’m sorry but that bucket we gave you is rent only. Pay $5 or we take your bucket.

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Geo Kavu

By the time they release this realistic life-in-space simulator we will probably have a colony on Mars.
And with the amount of money that supporters pay for each vehicle and spaceship each year, if they end up asking for a refund, they will be able to afford a ticket to that colony.
See? Ultra realistic space travel, brought to you by Cloud Imperium.
You haters.

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Tom R

Are they making a game that is awesome to play or are they just adding things because there’s still no grand vision for the game past “space”?

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David Carson

I think they’re just generating headlines to keep their name in the public eye and keep the pre-orders flowing in.

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Armsbend

Lol, this piece of shit isn’t getting made.

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Ket Viliano

Shit, or get off the pot.

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goatleaker

Charming…The worst part of the Sims is having to interrupt what you’re doing all the time to take a deuce.

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Sally Bowls

At the least, I hope they make them Japanese.

For $50,000 in RL you can get a very nice Japanese toilet.

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Bryan Correll

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Sally Bowls

I don’t understand the low self-esteem people who feel everything needs to be a hassle in my escapist entertainment. What’s next? Cancer, divorce, root canals, and ED?

Why not have pro and anti Trump advertisements on some screens to further simulate real life?

/sigh

If you wanted to find something positive to say – I rarely do – you could say this makes the dev time and effort spent on the “RL face to avatar face” seem well spent.

Estranged
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Estranged

You said spent. 😂

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NeoWolf

pooping, diseases,… hmm lets hope they don’t kill the fun with the inclusion of unnecessary minutiae. I’m all for immersion but i want to play a game not live the hardships.

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Armsbend

Sorry you now have Irritable Bowel Syndrome in your video game. Here are your divorce papers.

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Raimo Kangasniemi

If you put in toilets, then make people also use them. There’s logic there, but oh boy will there be whine about this…

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Armsbend

Are you confusing whine with mockery? Because this is mockery.

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Raimo Kangasniemi

No, not confusing. Mockery, yes. Sarcasm, that also. But whine too.

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Armsbend

I really think we have moved beyond whining for SC and gone to full blown mockery. Of the game, it’s developers and it’s backers. Even the backers are beginning to lament and mock themselves.

There is no anger any longer the entire thing is hilarious. I can say this having not spent money on this fail project.

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Schlag Sweetleaf

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oldandgrumpy
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oldandgrumpy

Need to add at least one more zero to the price tag as this is SC we are talking about :)

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Utakata

It can shoot shit more than Mr. Smart can! O.o

camren_rooke
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camren_rooke

Those are some next gen graphics right there!

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Schlag Sweetleaf

putting the” pee-yew” back into pew pew

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Richie K

will there be pepto bismol?

camren_rooke
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camren_rooke

…sometimes…

camren_rooke
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camren_rooke

The above video goes on about 3 minutes too long. Fair warning.

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Phubarrh

Finally a reason to get an Oculus Rift.

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Utakata

Now you can wear it while you’re in business room and do two jobbies at once! /eww

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Melissa McDonald

I’m interested how the new ones from Acer, Asus, HP, Dell, and Lenovo are going to compare. Read an interesting article about how the visor’s built-in room sensor doesn’t find items held behind your back, etc., but the Vive does.

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Space Captain Zor

The current-gen Vive? or a new one?

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Melissa McDonald

Current-gen Vive has you place sensors about the room so it can track all around you. New ones have tracking built into the visor but I’m reading it may not work for objects behind you or not in sight of the visor, so that’s a significant thing

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