Destiny 2 prepares its first raid, vows to remove potentially offensive gear

Hello there, new players of Destiny 2. Did you know that Tuesday is reset day? You probably do, because we’ve decided to have every game reset things on the same day every week just so we have an easier time keeping track, so that’s good. Still, the game is holding its first-ever maintenance today (for about four hours in the morning, it should be done by now), and it’s also hitting its first-ever weekly reset for flashpoints, strike challenges, and so forth. Everything is refreshed for a new week now.

The game’s first raid is also coming out… tomorrow, not today. Game director Luke Smith helpfully announced on Twitter that the raid has a Power range of 260-280, which is notable not so much for numbers as for the fact that players know what’s expected to be able to finish the raid rather than just starting the raid. You won’t be able to get in there until September 13th regardless, but at least now you know whether you can go the distance or just get through the front door.

Meanwhile, if you were put out by the in-game gauntlet that inadvertently imitates the icon of a hate group, fret not, as the studio is fixing it.

(We’re sure the studio means denounce, not renounce.)

Source: VG24/7 (1, 2), Twitter
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Bryan Correll

I’m offended that a sleeve is being called a gauntlet.

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Valen Sinclair

I looked at the screenshot of those gauntlets and I don’t get it. I don’t know what I’m looking for or at, but I don’t see a hate symbol. I had to do the googles to understand. Never in a million years would I have seen that. Then again, I’m not a master of hate group symbolism like some people seem to be. Even so…never would have seen it.

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Tanek

I would not have known about it, either. But looking at the information and comparing symbols, I definitely see where the problem is coming from. As PepinoCantador mentions below, the best choice is to fix it by removing the image and move on.

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PepinoCantador

Eh. I can both see where the symbol is questionable enough that people would want it changed, and where it is probably entirely coincidental and designed by someone who had no idea. I had no idea until I read this, and it isn’t like the design language is somehow unique to the brilliant minds at 4chan, so… Seems like a ‘whoops’ thing that they’re fixing anyway to make people happy. All is well that ends well?

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agemyth 😩

Meanwhile, if you were put out by the in-game gauntlet that inadvertently imitates the icon of a hate group, fret not, as the studio is fixing it.

I find it very hard to believe the resemblance is accidental on the part of whoever actually created it. They’ve gone from lining up as swastikas in Habbo Hotel to injecting their vile shit into billion dollar game franchises.

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Tanek

At best, even if it is true they are a “joke”, they chose very poorly in modeling their symbol on the symbol of a hate group. That has consequences. Accept those consequences and move on.

Edit: this was a reply to a comment that has since been deleted.

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Greaterdivinity

Edit: Nevermind, comments snipped!

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Tobasco da Gama

For those wondering what the hate symbol was, the lettering on the arm resembles the “Kekistan” flag. This piece from the Nib puts it into context with other alt-right/hate group symbology.

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J W

This is ridiculous. Kekistan is a send-up of ethnic nationality. It’s not a hate group, but a parody of ethnic nationalism. It’s entire history is made-up. Any individual can join it. It’s laughing at memes and people like the Nib who act so openly dishonestly and think its normal.

Further, Kek is in World of Warcraft. It originates with Starcraft. Are we banning korean players from Starcraft now?

It is not a hate symbol. It’s laughter. And it’s laughing at people dumb enough to think it’s a hate symbol. Such irrationality is appalling.

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Siphaed

I’m not sure about SC, but “kek” became a meme in WoW but it was one of the only understandable terms of the gibberish that Blizzard made in communication between the Horde and Alliance. When typing “lol” (i.e. laugh out loud) as a Horde, it would always come across as “kek” to the Alliance. That I do recall very much.

However it DID become a symbol of hate with the backface K’s surrounding the sideways bars on a mockup flag parodying the Nazi flag that got appropriated by white supremacists who think that political correctness is keeping them down.

Without context, this seems ‘ridiculous’ to outside eyes. But within the context of what’s going on, the gauntlets do bear an inappropriate symbolization that needs to be removed.

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J W

No, with context it seems ridiculous to informed eyes. The kekistan youtube is not white nationalist. The kekistan subreddit is not white nationalist. The people who sell the flags online are not white nationalists. It’s used exactly as I said.

But a political campaign decided to make Pepe a hate symbol, which has been soundly mocked since and thus we have Kekistan as a hate group. It’s entirely dishonest.

The more context you add, the worse that argument for banning it gets. A troll could take your online handle and avatar, get it associated with Nazis and then you’d be a Nazi to the public. I would defend you against such a false claim, but you just gave me the argument that I should not defend you.

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Tobasco da Gama

Yes, that’s what the guys carrying the Kekistan flags while marching shoulder-to-shoulder with people carrying actual Kriegsmarine flags and shouting “BLOOD AND SOIL” always say.

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Bree Royce

I think there’s just a lot of folks who don’t understand or don’t want to believe that what was once a harmless thing – that we surely all remember as a harmless thing! – has now been appropriated into something harmful, purposely, by bad actors, even if not everyone has caught onto that. It should bother all of us because it reflects on all of us as gamers.

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Eamil

I disagree with the idea that a harmless thing being appropriated for distasteful purposes means that thing should be verboten. It’s inherently a losing battle, because the people doing the appropriating can just appropriate something else. In fact, it gives them the power to make literally anything verboten simply by associating themselves with it.

What happens if they decide to start using “google” as a racial slur?

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Sushi Maru

Small groups might use a countries national flag in ways which are looked down upon. Do we say they “appropriated” the flag and then start to ban it everywhere? Instead of Flag, use any example. We can’t start banning things just because small fringe groups may try to associate with it.

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Tanek

If a country’s flag was shown to be based on the symbol of a known hate group, how long do you think that flag would survive?

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Tobasco da Gama

I wish that were all there is to it, but sadly one of the major propaganda tactics of the alt-right involves exactly this behaviour: every time someone criticises them, a swarm shows up to yell about how “lol, it’s just memes, it’s all in your head, none of it is even real”. Classic gaslighting behaviour.

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Eamil

As a left-leaning person wondering why everyone acts like the sky is falling over memes, your response just makes me wonder how much of what you’re talking about is “gaslighting” and how much is just people not agreeing with you.

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silverlock

Thanks for the link. Normalization of Nazi and racist imagery is a big goal of the alt right so expect a lot of post from people who have never posted here before.

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Mateusz Pachnik

Give me the game already on PC Bungie.

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