Notorious EVE Online player banned for threatening to cut off someone’s hands in real life

Yes, you’ve read that headline correctly. It’s been an insane day for EVE Online, as players awoke to the news that powerful military alliance Circle of Two had been betrayed by one of its top people. A player named The Judge stole over a trillion ISK worth of assets from the alliance and gave away all of its space stations to its enemies in one of the biggest political betrayals the game has ever seen. We’ll have a full report on the record-breaking theft and the current political situation in EVE later tonight, but this story has already taken an unusual turn.

Circle of Two’s leader, a notorious player named gigX, was so furious to learn of The Judge’s betrayal that he went into full meltdown mode in the alliance chat channel. Not content to keep his rivalry in-game, gigX asked his alliance to give him The Judge’s real name and home address. He followed up the request by writing “The Judge feel free to use your hands by typing here” before adding “while you can” to make a pretty serious threat.

CCP Games has a very clear policy surrounding making real life threats in-game and immediately issued gigX with a permanent game ban. Some players are asking for the ban to be overturned and citing worse cases in the past that didn’t lead to permabans, but it’s pretty hard to argue with a threat to cut off someone’s hands. Stay tuned for a breakdown of last nights’ massive theft and political betrayal that led to this bizarre turn of events.

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Frank White

Sigh. I guess I’m too old to be “sensitive” enough to take every threat so seriously. Personally, I think it was a bit of an overreaction on CCP’s part. I mean, if he was serious about getting the thief’s info and harming him, it’s not like being banned from the game would dissuade him from that path. If anything, getting permanently banned on top of everything else might be the one thing to put him over the edge and convince him to follow through with his threat. I think it would have been better for them to issue him a warning and maybe a temporary ban, enough time for him to cool down and come to his senses.

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Jacobin GW

Disgruntled guy with guild bank permissions steals stuff. Other than the scale its not all that impressive and really just abusing the mechanics of a game that is supposedly lawless, yet personal bank space is invincible.

If the guy stole the cash and then had to fly it across the galaxy to a safe heaven it would be cool, abusing permissions with no risks or repercussions for the theft is not.

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Roger Melly

Never heard anything but bad things about the community in this game . Does it have any decent friendly people in it ?

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Jonny Sage

No. Everyone who plays EVE clubs seals. Or at least that whatve I gathered from comments on MOP articles.

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kgptzac

Yes. They just don’t make the news, for obvious reasons.

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Bree Royce

Sure it does. Brendan has been writing about the good as well as the bad in the community for going on nine years? Ten? Longer than I’ve known him, anyway. Nobody champions the positive in the EVE community like he does. The difference is that EVE is designed to allow/encourage extremes of “bad” that most other MMOs lack, so it has more stories like this one than other games, and that skews perception.

Notably this year, the EVE community has been participating in exoplanet research. Last year, there was a huge fundraiser for the widow of an EVE player. Surely you’ve heard of Plex For Good too. As media, we would really rather be talking up the MMORPG community than admitting sociopaths are on the loose in our genre, which is why we’re publishing going on seven hurricane relief articles this week alone. But most of you don’t click on those stories, so you don’t even know about them. That doesn’t mean we don’t write them.

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deekay_plus

eh i got threats of violence/death threats against me on my wow tbc realm forum and no one cared. not even teh gms/forum mods XD

seen threats of violence in various games since without getting much talk.

i mean they’re all pretty empty threats and i’ve seen worse on sports and bodybuilding and music production forums (seriously on the last lol).

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Bree Royce

I don’t know of many MMOs where you can legally steal thousands of dollars’ worth of stuff from other people or get away with the kinds of verbal abuse and harassment and doxxing that goes on routinely in EVE. In EVE, it’s more than just shit talk over kill stealing because it’s more than just kill stealing to begin with, you know? If you do see wild stuff like this in an MMO backed up with studio action and provoking wars, tip us. :D

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Jonny Sage

Legally steal is a oxymoron.

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Bree Royce

“Legal” here referring to what’s permitted in the game according to the game’s rules and mechanics.

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deekay_plus

eh if we’re gonna ascribe real world value to these digital items then we need to start talking first sale doctrine and then we need to start getting police involved in thefts like this one. and probably insurance companies too.

i really don’t pay that much attention to stuff like this when i see it in games i play anymore beyond the casual bemusement when it happens and then forgotten a few hours later.

but stuff like that is definitely why i don’t roll on rp servers anymore. seems to be more infested in those venues than elsewhere and impactful of my personal enjoyment of a game in that area and that of my guildies.

otherwise typically it’s just in zone chat randomly after some random guy pk’s another or w/e or doesn’t dps well enough or stands in teh fire. lol.

there’s some great old school memes of people raging on various once famous forums and threatening death upon others too – hence teh refeerence to non gaming venues.

and as per our email exchange, i do keep in mind that this particular case is news worthy where random casual threats may not be because of the circumstances involved here.

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odin valhalla

A toxic game, often leads to toxic outcomes. A great example of why EVE is a great game to avoid.

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deekay_plus

eh i’ve found chat in game of eve to be generally pretty friendly and chill :P

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Mewmew

Is there ever any Eve news that isn’t some backstabbing thieving crap going on there?

Anyway, the hands comment would have just been some stupid comment, except for the part where he asked for the home address of the person.

Although in real life people say threats all the time in the heat of anger that have no actual meaning. People rage about doing things to people in the emotional early moments that have no real backing or basis.

Still he should have raged without asking for the address. I’d feel a lot more comfortable about defending the comments if that address wasn’t asked for. Realistically what that person cost some people, some of these victims may really want to do actual physical harm to him. And in Eve this stuff is all cool to do, so you don’t get to bring it off game.

Does anybody really think some game player was going to go and cut off this guy’s hands? Doubtful, very highly doubtful, but since he asked for the address I guess Eve has to protect themselves from the minuscule possibility by banning him. It’s too bad, as others posted, it’s a double whammy for this person after losing so much, but don’t ask for someones home address!

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Rolan Storm

When I got the news I have no idea what people were talking about, so I thought ban is justified. But in truth it is not necessary. He said it in the heat of the moment, they lost a ton… what I am talking about? There is no ‘them’ anymore. So I imagine the guy was pissed. I do not think he can do anything like that. I remember a story about a guy knifed over Lineage 2 item or something like that – his attacker never talked about it. Anywhere.

Loudmouths rarely go ahead with their threats and real thugs do not announce their plans. There might be exceptions, but like it was said – there were worse threats and no one was banned.

Guy lost only his organizations’ assets overnight, but account as well. That’s a crushing defeat. They should give The Judge Sith title or something.

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draugris

That´s exactly why i think it is an incredible stupid idea for studios implementing game mechanics and policies that allow and encourage players to scam each other.

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Estranged

Kinda scares me that some feel these threats are excusable.

Shouldn’t you just say, “well played!”, in EVE?

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Rolan Storm

Heat of the moment. Just imagine how much they lost.

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starbuck1771

Heat of the moment does not excuse IRL threats. It’s a damn game and if you get so worked up you start threatening a persons life you have issues and deserve a lot worse then a ban from the game. Maybe Jail and time in a mental facility.

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Rolan Storm

No.

First, I do not deserve anything like that. I was not the one threatening The Judge.

Second, that’s just cheap. Since when EVE Online became Pride and Prejudice Online? There were worse threats thrown in EVE, yet no bans given. Or so I hear. I am sure there are occasions it was – veterans say so. And if devs think person is going to threat someone’s life for real it’s the last thing they should do. They should contact authorities and disclose his location – they have inside information (though it is posible IP was hidden) and provide any data necessary.

If this guy is serious about this he is still a threat and now even more so. He might find The Judge and do something to him. And all they did additionally piss him off.

All CCP did quickly passed responsibility off them and you guys support them for that. Aren’t them who made this situation possible in the first place? Whatever he intends to do about his threats ban is wrong decision. Worst-case scenario – ban does not save anyone. Best case – an overkill.

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Bree Royce

The fact that CCP hasn’t cracked down consistently in the past – and it most definitely has not – doesn’t mean it should stay a free-for-all with no oversight whatsoever. Clearly CCP has decided that at least some of these high-profile cases aren’t worth the bad publicity anymore (we noticed their PR retweeted this article, so they plainly want to make the banning known).

Yes, CCP bears some moral responsibility for cultivating a gameworld where people can be giant asshats to each other in the first place, but that reality should never stay a studio’s hand when it comes to trying to clean it up (or to passing credible threats to the police – whose responsibility it actually is to handle IRL threats – to be dealt with accordingly).

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Rolan Storm

TL;DR: CCP should ban The Judge and _themselves_ for this mess.

Okay. Let’s talk CCP, not the player.

It’s not ‘some’ moral responsibility. It is all on them.

They grew it. ‘$45.000 in assets were stolen.’ Oh, goodie. ‘Someone flew with someone for half an year *Snake!!! sound here* then stolen his ultra-rare ship.’ Oh, you guys, you. ‘Someone threatens someone in-game.’ RED ALERT! CODE ZERO! SCRAMBLE! We will not abide by that! BAN!

What the hell?

Next step. Next step to everything that happens there. Actually it is fascinating they expected it will stay contained (and it did, right? to a degree). Not that someone can be humiliated on playing field and be all friendly afterwards. People tend to hold grudges, yes – ‘over pixels’ (over everything). It is not something new. Some people are bitter loosers, that’s a fact. And pretending that players are all noble fighters that laugh and shake afterwards is childish illusion.

CCP made a mistake long time ago allowing all this: theft, scamming, treachery of any kind, ponzi schemes (that was personal favorite of mine – ponzi schemes in a MMORPG). By the way, why no one even mentioned this great guy, this blasted Robin Hood – The Judge? What, he is a good guy in all this? Moron started all this mess, yet gigX get short end of the stick. I might be mistaken, but no one even talked about him here. I bet this The Judge had the day of its life. Not only it stole 5 trillion of assets (that’s the number, right? might be mistaken) which is about $25000 on black market, but its rival got banned. And no one even angry at him! Hats off, that’s an example of perfect operation. Bleh.

Funny thing I had utmost respect for the company. They made an unique world. They are toughtest team to challenge black market trade (IP bans _and_ hardware signature bans). They were known just for that – containing all that chaos. Well, turns out that ain’t so, right?

I stated two times that ban was overreaction now… Well, I will elaborate. It was not overreaction. gigX is classic scapegoat. CCP can’t ban themselves – of course. The Judge will not be banned because he did nothing wrong, right? (!!!) So gigX will take the fall.

But I won’t buy it. As far as I concerned the one to blame – first and foremost – are CCP. Then the guy who stole – The Judge (great name for a thief, kudos). And only after that gigX for running his mouth way too far. I do not support this ‘victim’ of space either. Threats in chat? That’s classy.

We were fed an illusion that gigX is the only bad guy here, while truth is he is not. And a lot of people agreed to that! ‘He want too far.’ They all want too far, CCP a long time ago and still no one cares. Of course, gigX is the only problem.

If you read all this – I am sorry it took this long to explain my position. But anything shorter won’t be enough. Ta.

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Bree Royce

Hey I don’t disagree entirely – I do think CCP breeds, encourages this stuff, always has, profits from it, even. I just also think the people caught engaging in the worst behavior shouldn’t be given a pass just because CCP deserves some of the blame. If they want to try to clean it up, I’m all for it. It might be too late to save the game, but it’ll be interesting watching them try.

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Rolan Storm

‘Profits’. Yeah, that’s the point I did not make. And I should have.

Neither I think people who threaten other should walk away from it, but I meant – beside the fact guy was utterly upset – its EVE. If I saw headline that reads ‘FFXIV player scammed his guild for $10000 worth of assets’ I’d make owl 180 degree head whirl. With EVE it is another day in warzone. So no, I do not think he deserves a pass in any other game. Or out of it. EVE – maybe. He was lead to believe by the very environment that such behavior is acceptable. Can it be seen as mitigating circumstances? I think it can.

Yeah. It will be interesting, but so far they just make it proper. ‘He went too far, we ban him’. Please, guys, keep us all posted on situation, will you? I had an idiotic decision to return to EVE just recently.

I think I’ll stick to SWL. No roleplaying, of course. Heard rumors too, heh.

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kgptzac

@Rolan Storm

Your wall of text still doesn’t explain why gigX shouldn’t be banned given the game’s existing culture and rules. If you are arguing that Eve shouldn’t be what it is now (ie allow and glorify scamming and sabotage), then it’s a discussion on the nonexisting game, rather than in Eve Online.

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Rolan Storm

My wall of text explains everything, you just chose to ignore it.

But I will repeat myself after telling that I never said he should not be banned. It is purely you assumption. I said it is overkill to ban him. And no, that is not the same thing. Whether he should be banned or not is not exactly anyone’s place to decide – it CCP’s, they made their call. Instead of choosing any other way to punish him. Which does not make problem to go away, but rather look like things are proper.

He said things he should not, he got reprimanded – good job!

It is all there. But I bet you would have read it if you wanted to, right? And no, I did not talk about nonexistent game. I merely wrote that one existing at the moment provocative enough to lead some people – like gigX – believe real life threats are the same thing as anything else going on there which makes it in his eyes acceptable, especially at the very emotional moment for him caused by the very game which accepts and celebrates things destructive – like that theft he was target of. Or betrayal, you choose which definition of the situation suits you better.

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zeko_rena

Yes, however that can be said of any competitive game
Some of the stuff I have seen in my time, in EVE and other games :(

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zeko_rena

I have seen worse said in Trade Chat :)

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Dan

I’m sorry, but if you are going to hand over the keys to the kingdom to a fellow guild member, especially in Eve online where $1000’s of dollars are at stake, you’d better already have your corp-mates login info, address, phone number, and bank account/routing numbers tucked away for safekeeping – and he/she had better have yours… Not going to turn that info over? Fine, no keys for you…

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starbuck1771

The funny part was that it wasn’t just his Corporation’s but that of an entire alliance meaning many Corporation’s. Rule of thumb is to not put all of your eggs in one basket but clearly these geniuses were not that smart and lost it all.

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deekay_plus

i have better access control for my 40 man guild than these guys apparently practiced. >>

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John Mclain

^ This. It’s basic common sense in Eve to have “ALL” personal information, and even photos/video of the people in charge of major corps/alliances for security against this stuff. Your letting some random guy on the internet hold onto potentially tens of thousands of dollars in assets, you damn well better know where the guy lives AHEAD OF TIME.

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Bryan Correll

So that you can do …….what exactly? As I understand these ‘thieves’ aren’t breaking any of EVE’s rules and certainly aren’t violating any real laws.

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Bree Royce

I don’t get that either. It seems backwards: You probably shouldn’t share your online stuff with people you don’t already know well enough IRL that you’d share your IRL stuff. Gathering a dossier on internet strangers doesn’t help unless you’re planning to harass or dox people after the fact, in which case they are… still not friends you should trust with your stuff.

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netsky999

I condemn the RL threat
But i also Condemn the thief
Seriously (ingame perspective) why? And to helping Goons? a C02 Director?
The so call “freedom” many are proud of on this game is toxic now
I fear this will stop the influx of new players since last november (f2p expansion)
Its not funny to lose massive amount of items from a player u even didnt know

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Sally Bowls

synchronicity: “the simultaneous occurrence of events that appear significantly related but have no discernible causal connection.

Right after reading this article. I watched the Apple Event. A CEO was demoing his upcoming game Sky, which he described as a romantic, social adventure game. He said compassion and generosity are key in the game. He closed with “join hands with your loved ones and play Sky.” When I was much younger. I would have been so dismissive. But nowadays, perhaps there is something to be said for making games that appeal to our better angels rather than $20,000 thefts and amputation threats.

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Sally Bowls

OOG risk is not new in EVE.

An EVE player talks about why and when he thinks doxxing is justified, and what doxxing even is(to him) from GamerGhazi

You are ever so slightly safer, financially and physically, to avoid EVE.

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Denice J. Cook

Oh sure, CCP intervenes…except when it’s Goon CEO The Mittani trying to get the entire Eve player base to convince an Eve miner to commit suicide in real life during a Fanfest livestream….then it’s all a big chuckle fest. *rolls eyes*
Sorry, CCP, but you’ll never live that one down.

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Roger Melly

I remember that from a few years ago it’s the reason I have never tried EVE online .

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John Mclain

The goons basically control CCP, so they get away with whatever they want.

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ceder

If only the depth of that statement were ever officially exposed….

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netsky999

Too much freedom leads to psycho behavior (ingame perspective)
The judge has a psycho char

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Paragon Lost

I’m all for condemning them for any inactivity in the past. My problem here is that somehow you’re coming off as if they shouldn’t step in on this situation? I’m confused by this frame of mind if I am reading your statement correctly.

You should be applauding them for stepping up and let’s hope that they’re more consistent about enforcing TOS/Policies. Agreed that they shouldn’t live that down but if they’re attempting to do better shouldn’t that be applauded?

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Alex Willis

Sorry, are you suggesting they could have handled this differently in this case? Or that nothing they ever do will be good enough because of that original failure?

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John Kiser

I think he’s saying that another situation that was bad wasn’t handled properly IE ccp did nothing.

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John Mclain

I’ll bet you that little shit never insults anyone again on the internet though. These days many children (and even adults) need a good throttling experience for their actions on the internet.

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kgptzac

I didn’t follow up the story but I hope the big shit (the jobless father of three) spent enough time in jail to learn the lesson that it’s not ok to felony assault another person when insulted on the Internet.

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Carebear

If I remember correct, 10+ years ago 1 gamer stabbed another one because he ninja’d a sword in Lineage… or because he ganged him?

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Carebear

thanks for the effort :P but this is for Legend of Mir 3.. I am sure I remember it was about Lineage II… it was when I started playing wow 10+ years ago and my cousin was playing Lineage II and we were discussing about it..

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Rolan Storm

I remember it, I mentioned it in my comment. Though I do not remember all details now.

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Its what came up when searching for Lineage im afraid

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Owen Wells

One thing I wanted to add to this is that GiGx has had several prior warnings from CCP for exactly this kind of behaviour and despite this insisted on doubling down on his threats several hours after the origional incident WHILE HE WAS BEING LIVESTREAMED. So this isnt just some guy having a rage meltdown because his alliances shit got stolen and he didnt have the chance to calm down before opening his mouth.

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Boom

Dear GiGX step back from your computer, turn it off & get some fresh air son.

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The importance of distinguishing between In Character activities and Out of Character.. something any novice roleplayer could teach the rest of the gaming community within the first hour of their play hehe.

I do love a good EVE drama :)

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I see that more as an exception to the rule rather than the rule :) Rp communities tend to be the safest and friendliest communities out there for the most part.

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deekay_plus

my experience is different than yours then.

my decade plus long experience with mmo rp communities is that they tend to use whatever tool necessary to get their way in their roleplay desires. wether it’s harassment and doxing or death threats or manipulating game GMs/CS against other players they feel is doing it wrong or threatening the desired out comes of their roleplay stories.

and invariably as controlling as possible of how others play the game even outside of strict RP play.

every time i’ve looked into an rp server to roll my guild on for some of our spur of the moment RP we do there have been quite evident signs of this paradigm on their forums in their in game global chat channels.

and otehr RPers that have joined us for a time have engaged in such toxic behaviours in the name of RP even when we weren’t rp tagged or on rp servers.

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Geez Dkay I don’t know what RP circles you are mixing in my friend but its clear you need to look elsewhere lol. I’ve been RPing in MMO’s as long as there have been MMO’s and I can honestly say I have never had a single bad experience! Maybe i’ve just be fortunate or mixing with good people?

There are definitely those that want to RP and those that say they do but are not really serious which is where I assume the toxic element you describe likely come from. But if you find yourself a good RP comunity in a game (little bit of look around prior to joining) it really can make ALL the difference in my experience.

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birini

So the important question, did this happen because EVE isn’t allowing flying mounts in its new zone?

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Cypher

Devil’s advocate for a second… not sure if that would stand up in court as a threat to do actual bodily harm… one could say it’s inferred but, an average defence lawyer would get him off in 24 hrs… if that dialogue is all the evidence there is.

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Knight Porter

Which is why he’s banned, not arrested.

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The most bizarre shit happens in Eve…

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Paragon Lost

Had he not asked for the player’s real name and address, I’d have said the permaban was too much. Since he was actually asking for said player’s real name and address, this is not role-play and incharacter stuff, this warrants a more serious reaction on the part of the game developer.

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Honestly, I’m pretty cool with permabanning folks for this kind of behavior. It has absolutely no place in gaming, even accounting for nerd-rage.

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A permaban does seem kind of overkill for what seems like mindless nerd-rage

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kgptzac

I disagree. A perma ban is very appropriate for making threats of this kind. An overkill would be a real life criminal conviction of threat of bodily harm.

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Paul

Would agree with you except for the asking for the RL name and address. That’s the line that can’t be crossed and deserving of a zero tolerance approach whatever the pixel provocation.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

Mindless nerd-rage. Sure, we thought Johnny was just engaging in mindless nerd-rage until (fill in the blank here with a RL outrage a nerd committed; there are so many to choose from).

Rage: A violent uncontrollable anger.

If I continually indulge in rage, eventually I won’t know what lines shouldn’t be crossed. Continually being forgiven for indulging in rage encourages me because I am given permission by my peers to engage in thoughtless, uncontrolled behavior.

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wratts

Sure, it’s easy to imagine everything as the worst possible outcome, but of course if he was really intending to follow through with that then a ban would be meaningless anyway. As CCP, you can’t ban him from Reddit and all the other venues he would have to try to track down this guy. If you really thought it was serious, you’d be obligated to report it to the police and give them the offender’s full contact info for them to handle it.

Reality is, a week or two in the ban box, followed by a “calm now?” conversation is all it would have taken. If it was more serious than that, a permaban would have been insufficient. Either way it’s a flawed way to handle the situation

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Ashfyn Ninegold

If I understand you correctly, there’s no point to CCP taking this action, because it could easily be gotten around by going to social media? CCP’s action is meaningless because it won’t stop him anyway, is that what you meant to say?

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wratts

What I said is that if CCP took the threat seriously, their response would be insufficient to the point of negligence. They’d be obligated to make a police report. If they didn’t take it seriously, their response is plainly overkill

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wakkander

Its the most they can do as a company, and it sends a message to others about what will and will not be tolerated. If he cannot separate game from reality and wants the dudes actual name and address, that is a line crossed, and the company shouldn’t tolerate it.

if Reddit, government bodies, or others want to follow through via other means, that is beyond CCP’s control. Permabanning in game is however within their control.

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Alex Willis

Pretty sure that “mindlessness” combined with an implied RL threat constitutes reasonable grounds for a ban.

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Dividion

Where was the threat to cut off the hands? Sure, they did that to thieves back in the day, but from the screenshot above it’s not clear. There are plenty of ways in which the hands could be made non-functional without cutting them off. You could crush them and they’d be out of commission until the bones healed, or you could go as far as paralyzing someone from the neck down.

In any case it’s still assault, and real-life threats should not be tolerated by any means.

Also, anyone who’s a complete dick in-game is probably a pretty big dick out-of-game too. Immaturity is no excuse. I hope people understand this. This goes for anyone who intends to wrong someone else for their own satisfaction.

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Mr Poolaty

He didn’t say he’d cut off the dudes hands be just said that he couldn’t use em. So he could mean just brake em.

I’d say don’t let people spend real life money if you don’t want real life consequences…
If someone stole 5 grand from me I’d wanna beat the living shit out of em.. So 20 grand…

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kgptzac

In real life there’s an entity called the Police. It’s different and better than Eve’s Concord and CCP. You should use try contacting the Police when people really steal 5~20 grands from you.

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Paragon Lost

Break. I slammed on the brakes, breaking bones in my foot. As to the rest of your comment, it’s a game. It’s fine to role-play conflict and threaten character to character in an in game way. Once you start asking for real names and addresses along with a threat of bodily harm you’ve crossed the line.

You also probably need to take a serious step back and take a look at your priorities and concepts of right and wrong. Professional help might be called for. (shrugs) In my opinion CCP took the correct action. It sets the proper tone for others, don’t make real life threats and you won’t get banned.

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David Harrison

Oh give me a break. This was nothing more than the typical forum warrior raging. People are always brave behind their keyboards. I bet anything this nerd wouldn’t do shit in the real world to anyone because he would get his ass kicked.

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Paragon Lost

Until they aren’t and they’re calling for SWATs and other real life harassment. So no, you give me a break, CCP has to set a proper tone on what is allowed and what isn’t. Threatening people in real life is not the correct tone.

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Alex Willis

Maybe. But why would a private organization take the risk? CCP has been criticized for years for not being active enough in interventions against abuse in their community. 6-7 years ago, that criticism was warranted. Since then they’ve been working to improve that reputation. And that comes in part from zero-tolerance policies when it comes to threats. If something *did* happen, can you imagine the fallout? Better to be proactive. This was the right decision.

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Wilhelm Arcturus

“…gave away all of its space stations to its enemies…”

Gave? Goons paid The Judge 300 billion ISK for that Keepstar.

I suppose the post about the actual theft is yet to come. My guess is that it will feature “$10,000” in the title.

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BalsBigBrother

Oh dear ….. not much more to say really.

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Wolfyseyes

That’s an astonishingly specific threat. Which, frankly, drains what meager level of empathy I had for this dude getting his stuff stolen.

Good on ya, TheJudge.

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Alex Willis

Been following the news. It’s a huge theft — maybe the biggest in EVE history? — but that threat is bad. Glad he was banned immediately. Pretty big fall from grace, though. CO2 is an important alliance. This doesn’t bode well for them or for their power bloc.

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cista2bpo

There has been inflation in the price of expensive ships. A unique ship, the Megathron Federate Issue, was stolen somewhere around 2007-2009 I think.

From Evelopedia: “The Federate Issue Megathron is also an event-related ship, similar to the Imperial Issue Apocalypse. It was handed out in the Crielere Incident to Doc Brown. Doc Brown kept the unique ship for a while, then later sold it to DigitalCommunist, who also held it for a long period of time. More recently, Madcap Magician, the CEO of DigitalCommunist’s corporation, plotted and eventually stole the ship and subsequently kicked DigitalCommunist from the corporation. Madcap sold it to Entity, a famous collector of rare EVE items. It is still in the possession of Entity.”

No hands were cut off in the process.
Point is, I consider this the greatest theft in EVE, this ship is easily worth 5 Trillion ISK today.

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Utakata

Oh dear. And…

“Some players are asking for the ban to be overturned and citing worse cases in the past that didn’t lead to permabans, but it’s pretty hard to argue with a threat to cut off someone’s hands.”

…some players should start to realize that moral equivalence arguments won’t cut it here (and no pun intended).

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Schmidt.Capela

If anything, this is a strong argument for CCP to be even more strict in its application of its policy from now on.

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Paragon Lost

Exactly Utakata. Even if they’ve been inconsistent in the past it doesn’t mean that they can’t start enforcing policies against real life threats. Something that they should be doing, so kudos to them for doing so. Hopefully they continue to do so in the future with any other clear incidents like this.

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Rheem Octuris

Pun intended or not, I have to hand it to you.

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Utakata

Somehow this bird never gets old… <3

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plannick

armageddon?

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Darthbawl

Ah, another [sad] case of game spilling over into this thing we like to call “real life.” smh

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Jonny Sage

Or rather, vice versa. EVE is just a less real verison of the worse stuff that actually happens in real life where people actually carry out their threats.

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