WRUP: Names I have used for MMO zones other than their proper names edition

Boregrimmar. Dorkshore. Strangle-me Vale. Dun Moron. Ironfudge. The Kvetchlands. Hillsbad Footfails. Poorgrimmar. Zangrymarsh. More Donuts. Fishguard. Palaran. Nar Shady. Lomsa Lemonsa. L.A. Nausea. Goopstaberg. Winderps. Valkurm Dooms. Fort Smellsba. Rolanberry the Headless Thompson Fields. Castle Ooze Troy. Snoregrimmar. Nar Shut Up.

Lizardtown. Camp Steaky-place. Tython, land of pythons. Ord Mantelpiece. Sith Seattle. Invincible Turtle River. The Lich King Summer Camp. The Boyz II Men Tree. Gay Planet. Shadowlord Fun Time Activity Zone. Kitty Jungle. Pirate Jungle. Crackton. The Alliance Lives in a Closet. Stormwind Red Light District. Cat Gas Park. Earth Space Duck. “Oops I Crapped My Pants” City.

And those are just the ones where my wife and I didn’t just add obscenities to the name for no reason, or referring to a zone in one game with the name of a zone from a completely different game. Let us know what you’re playing in the comments, this is What Are You Playing. Theoretically.

Andrew Ross (@dengarsw): Oh man, it’s gonna be one of those weekends! Pokemon Go is happening as usual since one of our families with kids is looking for Entei, but I also have a console party going on, which means Smash Bros, Splatoon 2, Mario Kart, and hopefully more Ultimate Chicken Horse. I’ve got a bunch of non-gaming stuff on Sunday too, but I’m hoping to sneak in some time with Overwatch on PC or PS4 now (don’t ask) since Cultist Zenyatta and Dragon Symmetra are some of the best skins I’ve seen for the game.

Brianna Royce (@nbrianna, blog): Guild Wars 2 of course! I’m starting to get a tiny bit frustrated with the zones because so far it’s seemed always necessary to leave before they’re done and come back later with a better mount. I’m not even a completionist, but it’s annoying me. On the other hand, everything we’ve seen has topped the last for jawdropping prettiness, and I’m much more pleased with the rate of mastery point allocation.

Eliot Lefebvre (@Eliot_Lefebvre, blog): Did you know that Final Fantasy XIV had a big patch recently? Because I sure did, and between various family outings that’s going to get the lion’s share of my time. I’ll also be wrapping up my GW2 adventures for Choose My Adventure, since I won’t have much time when I take my anniversary trip next weekend.

Justin Olivetti (@Sypster, blog): If I get my gaming machine back from the shop, I have a lot to do to catch up after a week away from MMOs. Probably a little of everything, including going back to the Haunted Burrow in Lord of the Rings Online, running a mission or two in Star Trek Online, finishing up Transylvania in Secret World Legends, and maybe even heading back to World of Warcraft for some seasonal fun. I also have Divinity: Original Sin 2 begging me to play it — and I haven’t yet had time to give it proper attention.

MJ Guthrie (@MJ_Guthrie, blog): With the exception of streams, I haven’t played pretty much anything for almost two weeks, which sucks! So this weekend I am planning on some time in ARK: Survival Evolved on the Ragnarok server as well as some Secret World Legends. If I can squeeze any EverQuest II Nights of the Dead in I will, but that maybe be pushing it. I’ve overestimated how much gaming I could manage now for months, so if I get into these two games I call it a win! If I get into more, I call that a miracle.

Pierre, patron: After a very busy week at work, I’m dying to get some free time on Sunday (still some work to finish on Saturday) to continue my adventures in Destiny 2. It seems like a lot of players are over it now, and the others are waiting for the PC version of the game, which is coming soon (on October 24). As far as I’m concerned, I’m still enjoying the game. But the fact I’m playing it casually leaves a lot of content unexplored yet; that may be the reason why I’m still into it. I finished the solo campaign recently and loved it. I was really impressed by the fast action-loaded rhythm and epic-ness of the final missions, it was a real treat. I hope you have a great weekend fellow MOP readers. Don’t forget how lucky we are these days, in terms of deeply enjoyable gaming experiences, and leave the negative and hateful thoughts aside; just have fun gaming. That will be my wise advice for this weekend. Cheers!

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Malcolm Swoboda

Finished SWL main story!!! Bought the first (2015) Star Wars Battlefront all content for less than $10.

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Jonny Sage

Ran out if things to do in GW2, and story instance kept DC, so quitting till next content release. Back to EVE for real adventure!

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Rabidwargamer

World of Warcraft.

Legion has kept me well entertained and I’ve reconnected playing with a dear friend. Duoing is my absolute favorite pastime, and two Demon Hunters is stupid amounts of fun.

My side project of getting a Horde rogue to 110 is puttering along. Been working on the quests to get the ravasaur mount from Un’Goro crater at an appropriate level actually. I know WoW gets lots of flak for it’s leveling experience, and rightfully so, but I enjoy it!

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Rees Racer

I’ve tried…again, to enjoy Ghost Recon Wildlands (during the free weekend and heavy discounts), but it’s just not to be. It’s very slick, and fun in places, but I think it will end up too repetitive, and I’d only be interested in the 4v4 PvP ultimately. Just not enough incentive, for me personally.

I saw the column here (and received an e-mail) for World of Warplanes 2.0. Right. So I went ahead and installed all 50GB to see if it had really improved. I still firmly believe War Thunder to have a better iteration, but will admit that the game is MUCH improved, and actually quite fun. I’ve gone round and round for years (without any animosity at all!) with Scottish lass and regular commenter MM on which game better captures air combat manoeuvring with enough detail and accuracy to suit most players. We disagree, but I’m happy to admit Wargaming has made some nice strides, although likely not enough to supplant any time I still put into War Thunder. I’m curious to see what (if anything) she might add on the changes.

Finally, I’m still making some headway in Guild Wars 2, having advanced my two primary characters (Mesmer and Thief) past level 60, and enjoying the journey. I made certain to make a character (Ranger) to boost to 80 to obtain the Glider and Mount account-wide masteries from the expansions, but explore no further to avoid spoilers. I’m in no rush. :)

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butterpanda888

I’m sorry, but I have to ask… Which district of Stormwind is the Red Light District?

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jinarra

I’m guessing Goldshire.

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Utakata

This week: A warning! Tiny post! No apologies!

Still playing WoW! B&S is still on the pigtail radar! And that’s it!

Have great week and weekend folks!

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butterpanda888

This is a 3ds weekend for me with Pokemon Moon, Ever Oasis, and Monster Hunter Stories.
Today I downloaded TSW and Darkside Detective to play on Halloween, as well.

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thirtymil

Can’t get no satisfaction, so I’m eyeing up the Arkham Horror card game in the cupboard and wondering if I need a break from the online gaming.

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Mick and the boys feel your pain, 30! :-)

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Robert Mann

ROFL. There’s so many good ones that can be done, like Fogochel, or Ew Inn Forgets.

I’m playing a mix of Fishing in a hut on the shore of a lake with friends since we don’t want to burn out on grind, and ELEX when it comes out because *HYPE, new Piranha Bytes game!* Hopefully they will show a strong return to more Gothic I/II levels of production, would be awesome. Will still be fun either way.

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More Titanfall 2, plus going to work on Battle Chasers later this night.

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Maggie May

I learned today what my new puter fund was for … And it’s not a new gaming rig, Dang nabbit !!! I knew this would happen. Can I cry now? Other than that I’ve been trying to make a Kajjit that looks like my daughters cat with little success, so maybe I’ll give it another go. In ESO, because even tho the game is laggy as hell and the monsters are invisible, at least my characters look good.

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deekay_plus

sorry about your puter fund. better luck next time?

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mysecretid

Warning! Huge post! Enter at your own risk. Apologies in advance. :-)

This week? The usual Star Trek Online, of course; a return to Agents of Mayhem, now that it’s been patched up, and a whole lot of World of Warcraft, despite what Eliot may think (hee hee).

Developer Volition just released the 1.0.4 patch for Agents of Mayhem on the PS4, and I’m happy to report that I can now play my DLC chracters (Johnny Gat and Lazarus) without the game hanging on me. We’ll call that a win. :-)

You know, it got me thinking, though (warning: time to go get a sandwich if you don’t effing care what I’m thinking :-) ) — it’s pretty obvious when one plays that neither Johnny Gat nor Lazarus were created as “additional side content” for Agents Of Mayhem; everything indicates that the two characters were simply extracted from the game’s roster of playable characters and turned into “exclusive pre-order content”.

And here’s the thing — both Johnny Gat and Lazarus are arguably two of the most interesting characters to play in the game.

Gat plays similarly to both Braddock and Hollywood in the game, but (in my opinion) his unique abilities are more fun. Plus, you’ve got actor Daniel Dae Kim back doing the voice work for Gat, so that brings additional fun.

Lazarus plays differently from any other character in the game. She’s basically a android/cyborg quasi-undead type of character (look, this is a Volition game, it’s gonna get weird, right?) and her powers involve zapping bad guys with stacked debuffs until they die.

Shorter version? She’s sort of like the Vision in the Avengers movies done sideways. Kinda.

My point here is, both Gat and Lazarus are among the game’s more interesting characters to play — and they both got partitioned off as DLC. I think this was a bad call in terms of selling copies of the game

Simply put, you don’t take two of the most interesting characters in your game release, and move them out of the core game — especially when one of those characters (Johnny Gat) is arguably the most recognizeable link to the franchise (Saints Row) that you’re spinning your new game out of …

With a new game, you want to hit buyers with all the good stuff right out of the gate; you don’t put your best-known character, and one of your most unusual characters, behind a paywall because, if the game doesn’t make a good impression on the regular buyers, most people won’t stick around long enough for the paywall DLC.

My opinions, anyway.

I also had some thoughts on my journeys through World of Warcraft, but this post is already far too long.

So, I’ll just cut to the question which popped into my head before I bailed on Mists of Pandaria and moved on to Warlords of Draenor:

Are there any significant non-caucasian human NPCs in World of Warcraft? Because I don’t think I’ve seen any, ever, which is frickin’ WEIRD when you think about it.

And don’t give me that “all fantasy is based on medieval European history, so of course everybody is white” Breitbart bullshit.

There were no purple-skinned floppy-eared archers at Agincourt -WoW may have borrowed a basic technological template from history, but the similarities end there.

I am NOT suggesting that the Blizzard developers have consciously done this — or that it’s some sort of secret, evil conspiracy — all I’m saying is that it seems damn weird to me.

I live in a pretty caucasian part of the world right now, but I can go to the market, or the movies, and see a wider array of human colors and cultures there than I can see in a game which features two shades of Orc, sentient panda bears, and talking cows who wield magic.

I can’t be the only one who finds that a little strange, can I?

Players can create a variety of skin tones, but I don’t think I’ve ever met a significant human NPC (or any human NPC) in World of Warcraft who wasn’t white. I find that stranger than talking cows, myself.

Have a great week people, and please take care of yourselves. Life is difficult, at best, most of the time, so be good to yourselves.

Cheers,

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Armsbend

Personally I feel that if an artist, developer whatever really doesn’t have a reference towards one race or another they shouldn’t feel compelled to shoehorn it in if they don’t want to. A little odd? Maybe, but it really shouldn’t be.

For an analogy I know: David Lynch gets called to the mat for not having AAs in his movies/tv every now and again but really the midwestern fellow raised in the 60s doesn’t have a real finger on their pulse(I guess I am not he nor am I his friend). Better to leave it out then look like a fool or not be true to yourself imho.

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I agree that creators must be free to follow their vision, but would add that their freedom doesn’t render their creations immune to questions or criticism once they exist in the world.

Thanks for the considered reply to what some might see as a contentious question. Massively is better than most (usually) for intelligent discourse (unless Star Citizen is mentioned, apparently :-)), but that’s never a guarantee.

Cheers,

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Jonny Sage

or EVE, or any PVP game.

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Utakata

Last Star Citizen article only had 16 comments with one “great” Star Trek: Wrath of Khan reference! o.O

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I spent the morning painting our kitchen cupboards. I spent the afternoon taking my son out to get his haircut, then replacing the spinning rust in my PC with a shiny new SSD. I plan to spend the evening in the Haunted Burrow in LotRO … assuming the updates I need finish downloading before then. I expect to get both DDO and the Lich King-era WoW client back onto my PC this weekend, so I hope to spend a little time in both those as well.

I keep saying I’m going to get back into TESO on the Xbone, but my daughter just got Cuphead, and at this rate I’m not expecting to log time on that console before November! I love both the retro 30’s cartoon look and the soundtrack for Cuphead, though.

I hope everyone had a lucky Friday the 13th, and has a great weekend!

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BalsBigBrother

I have watched a couple of Cuphead streams. It looks really slick but I think it would be the sort of game that I would end up breaking something either my hand or a mouse hehe :-)

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syl has been singing cuphead’s praises the past 2 weeks!

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I’m playing Overwatch, Divinity: Original Sin 2, and No Man’s Sky. I’m liking NMS so far, about 15 hours in. It’s quite a beautiful game, and I’m still finding plenty to see and do. I like playing with the photo filters.

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I wanted to add a couple more pics, but the comment tool wouldn’t submit when I had more than two.

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Sorenthaz

Well my microphone on my Logitech G430 died, so that’s fun since it greatly damages my ability to communicate in one game I was planning to dip into today. As comfy and good feeling as the headset is I doubt I’ll buy it again unless it’s on a significant sale, didn’t even last me a full two years (at the same time I was fairly careless with it at times… so *shrug*).

Games-wise FFXIV, LoL, Smite, Dying Light, and Warframe will probably be the main ones I touch this weekend. That I can freely talk about, anyway. :p Also just trying not to let the worries of next week bog me down in the meantime. So it’s a good thing I have plenty of options gaming-wise.

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mysecretid

I have a sordid history of accidentally destroying headsets as well, so I feel your pain. :-)

It’s part of why I never buy expensive headsets — $200 headsets break just as easily as the $20 ones, unfortunately.

Hope things get sorted soon,

Cheers,

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deekay_plus

i usualy go with the microsoft lx 3000. i usually go though one a year but it’s usually due to me sitting on it or otherwise abusing it that they die and not a single component failure on the headset it self.

and i’m about to dip into the one game myself. hopefully the people i land with will be down to hunt some other players or at least not avoid them >>

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Vexia

It’s been unusual for me to play only one MMO at a time (instead of trying and failing to juggle 3 at once), but I’ve been going through Final Fantasy XIV’s main story quest as much as possible lately. I am level capped but not yet finished with the final zone. Since I sadly didn’t make the journey up before the first major patch of the expansion, that at least means I won’t lack for things to do when I finally am done. Silver lining?

On a semi-MMO-related note, Splatoon 2’s Splatfest today is Vampires vs. Werewolves, and I already stayed up late last night fighting the good fight for undeath, turning into bats, etc. Werewolves aren’t bad, but in my life I’ve had the influence of a lot more vampire-related media like Dracula, Anne Rice’s series, Hellsing, etc.

Lastly, I must report that my attempts to get back into Pokemon Go were unsuccessful. After a few weeks since re-downloading, I haven’t played for at least 6 days. It just doesn’t mesh with my lifestyle (nor does having a depleted battery although it didn’t seem quite as draining this time). Ampharos, my all-time-favorite Pokemon, is technically available, but its pre-evolved stage, Mareep, is apparently super rare to find around here, so even that is not enough motivation to keep me going. But that’s ok; there are plenty of other ways for me to pass the time.

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Playing some Divinity: Original Sin 2.

Annnnd… that’s the disappointment of the year.

The story is pretty good, the main characters are a lot of fun, no doubt.
The problem?
You have about one quest involving them every five hours.

Otherwise, you can see the “depth” of the combat in two hours, there’s pretty much no new skills to be found after the first zone (except super powers that you barely use and are affected by the next point).
It’s sloooow as molasses, I just dread entering combat because animations are long, and you often fight many, many ennemies at once, I fought a bunch of golems where it took a minute + just for them to end their first turn. Oh, and the super powers can be recharged by spending a long animation on corpses, in or out of combat.
It’s unbalanced. The difficulty spikes are brutal, and so are the exploits: teleportations are everywhere, all the time, and a big wheel of cheese on the table of strategy… that only involves reloading your save on each fight, because the formation system is never, ever enough to start a fight in a favourable position (that the ennemies most certainly will possess without you seeing hem).

And you grind shitty side quests. Yes, grind. You absolutely need to do them, there’s no scaling, so if you are a few levels lower than ennemies, you get crushed.
Who doesn’t like dozens of quests with vapid characters that just send you on errands, with dialogues that ultimately do nothing at all? But be aware that there’s a limited amount of XP, so you’d better min max that and resolve quests before killing the NPCs, and never sneak around or you’re probably fucked for ever.
Great design here.
It feels like a damn MMO. Kill things, bring back items, again and again.

Speaking of items… worst itemizeation in a videogame?
Like in Diablo (or shittier games like Dead Island really), random loot outside of a few uniques.
A two handed sword with +one handed skill, +intelligence and +water magic? Sure, that’s possible!
You only get junk, with marginal damage and armor bonuses… only to fight marginally stronger ennemies with the same skills that they had in the tutorial.

Oh, and merchants have loot that respawn every hour.
And… they’re the only source of good gear.
Yeah, quests only reward blue trash pretty much, exploration gives you nothing good (and you need precious points to spend on item find)… but merchants? They have epics galore, and even multiple legendaries or even divine items.

I would like to call that the Ubisoft of turn based RPGs… but Ubisoft tries, at least Ubisoft tries.
Those issues have been in Larian studio’s game for eight games in a row.
The game is just a complete bore to play, and certainly not unlike modern MMOs where it’s just a checklist and fake progression.

Is that what RPGs are now?
See the entire gameplay in the tutorial, now grind those icons on the map.
After my experience with the awful The Witcher 3 and its useless world, the new Zelda being exactly the same… is that all there is?
Grind pointless stats, and don’t hope for new items or skills. But you get copy/pasted content all around! 100h games woohoo…

Sigh.

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So the game isn’t for you then and that is ok not everything will work for everyone

Me, well I am currently 80 hours in and have enjoyed every minute of it. Yeah there are a few things I personally found annoying to begin with. Mostly related to nonsensical, to me at least, game mechanics. The devs made the game modable for a reason so I have for the most part got it going in a way that suits me and what I want.

All those quests that you are saying are a bore I found fascinating, added to my immersion of the world and its history. I enjoy exploring for the sake of exploring and looking for hidden things that don’t necessarily advance the main story or relate to my characters. They all do however add to a feeling of a world with a storied history that doesn’t solely revolve around the players and their actions, DOS 2 gave me all that and more.

Incidentally that is also one of the reasons I enjoyed The Witcher 3 too (103 + hours) and I still have things to complete in the last expansion. Must get round to that at some point.

I would be interested to know what rpgs you have enjoyed and why you liked them just to see any comparison to my experience in both DOS2 and Witcher 3. It is ok not to like things and please don’t take any of my comment as criticism of your own preferences but I am interested in hearing other points of view :-)

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I love exploring.
I love it more when there is a reason to.
Not a small chance to proc my lucky charm skill for some randomized piece of trash.

I love quests.
I love them more when they have a reason to be, characters and an impact on the world.
Not grind quests with fetch quests for shady characters that you will obviously kill in the later dialogue if you want to maximise XP. And never hear from them again.

Ultimately, the only good part of the game revolves around your character.
That’s kind of the point of Larian games, you are a god, become one, or similar to it.
It’s not about the world, which is just bog standard and filled with clichés and random zany quests like flaming pigs. I’ll pass on bugs or balance, that I can understand.

But like you say, this is exactly like The Witcher 3.
A large open world, with absolutely nothing of interest. You just loot the same sword for 100h straight. The same skin, same bonuses, just with more basic damage.
In order to fight the same mobs (like, say, ghosts in TW3) using the same abilities, using the same strategy that worked a hundred hours before.

Modern RPGs (and many before mind you) are nothing more than mundane.
The quests are not epic sagas anymore, they’re just monsters to kill or “dungeons’ conveniently right next to the quest giver. Or items to find. Or dialogues with a whole lot of choices… ending in the exact same response, and never any other result than “fight everyone” or “fight everyone after you gave the right answer for more XP”.

The RPGs that I like are a bit all over the place, but I loved Pillars of Eternity for turn based RPGs. Loved Enderal instead of the awful Skyrim. I really enjoy the Ys games… a lot less so the newer ones, which are just that: tons of shitty quests and shitty mats to grind instead of laser focused action adventure.

But the big point: I like adventure and progression.
We like MMOs around here, and that’s a thing that is very common between RPGs and MMOs.
There’s no progression.

You don’t get stronger. You don’t get new skills (ok, one for each spec in the second zone). No new movement abilities. The ennemies don’t get anything new either.
The stats are just bumped higher and higher.
I used Zelda as example, because it’s everything wrong with modern games: you see everything that there is to see, and get everything that you can do in two hours.
And then you grind the map markers and copy/pasted quests for money/mats that you spend on… more stats (armor in this case, because weapons upgrades don’t make sense in a game with 900 nutboyz to… upgrade your inventory space), to kill palette swapped ennemies with more stats.

I want a unique experience with unique quests, unique items that are very different and things that I can predict. Not get ambushed by yet more voidwoken, reload to put my OP ranger in a good spot, and get a random blue as reward from the latest villager in need.
I want something that is focused on quality and uniqueness, not randomized crap made to waste hundreds of hours, and rewards that are straight up loot boxes.
Because that’s what those games ares: loot boxes with a fancy skin.
You don’t get a legandary staff that allows you to fly after completing a massive quest chain with puzzles and dialogues.
You’re here for the thrill of maybe getting a staff +2 instead of +1 as reward to the latest token NPC that gives you a map marker in two seconds.

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Hmm ok I am not sure I agree with some of your criticisms, which is fine we don’t all think the same way so I will offer some of my observations from my own point of view.

There are new spells, skills and movement abilities that you can get as you progress through the game. In fact some of the skills, spells and movement abilities come about from you as a player crafting them or combining existing spells to create new ones.

The same goes for equipment which you get it can be combined to give them new abilities. For example at a basic level you can combine weapons with a poison barrel to create poison variants but there are other more complicated recipes to create other things too.

You can find these recipes for both spells and equipment by experimentation yourself or by finding them through exploration or some are quest rewards.

A lot of those zany quests you mention often have several branches beyond the initial objective. Take for example the burning pigs you mention. If you follow it all the way to its conclusion which goes beyond just putting out the fire it will eventually lead to you releasing someone from their bonds. Along the way you find some information that directly relates to the motives of one of the protagonists in the main story and it fleshes out some of their history.

The dialogues don’t all end up with you fighting someone and you can talk npc’s down. Granted there are some that will always end in a fight for story reasons I will give you that much but it is certainly not all. Your chances are dependent on your persuasion skill level and also the choices you made with regard to race, class and the tags you picked such as noble, rogue etc. It all rests on you using the right person for the job, some races don’t like each other, some npcs don’t like certain profession and so on and that all has a bearing on your success in that regard.

As for the exploring bit you will note I said I like exploring for the sake of exploring. The reason I do it is to look around, find new things and take screenshots, that is all the reason I need. It seems you want something beyond that that you feel is not provided by the game.

Anyway I think I have rambled on enough so I will stop here. I am sorry you didn’t have a fun experience and that you didn’t enjoy yourself. I hope something comes along that will give you the same amount of enjoyment that I personally found and continue to have with Divinity Original Sin 2 (and The Witcher 3.)

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Oh yeah, there is some crafting (or specific skill books from NPC)… but not only is it very fast to get them, they are also not very relevant.
They do feel like upgrades more than anything, with the added cost of slowing combat even more to eat corpses (or like the rest of combat – be rerady before the fight, along placing your characters, pre-buffing with skills and making sure to abuse line of sights).

For gear, I don’t agree. Adding elemental damage, runes and stuff?
Doesn’t change the fact that you’re still using the exact same thing, with the same skin, just with slightly more base damage/armor. And again, merchants are far more reliable anyway.
Again, like The Witcher 3, copy/paste everywhere, to use on ennemies that are completely identical from start to finish.

I know that depending on your character traits and stats (and the named ones too), you’ll have different dialogues.
But they are irrelevant.
You either succeed, or you do not.
It’s a couple lines of additional dialogue and more importantly, XP that you most certainly need. Then you should kill them for more XP (that’s a stupid design choice, and one that got worse with release and balance patches actually).

I certainly understand why you like those games, but it feels exactly like MMOs: you grind for the sake of grind, in good looking environments… that are ultimately factice, they only exist because they have X quest for you to complete.

But for me the worse is comparing that with some older games. Or not even old ones, let’s just take Bethesda games, old and new.
Do the quests in DOS1 and TW3 offer you faction choices? No. You have goody two shoes and awful thief.
Do the quests have long term consequences? No, you’ll just be hated by some people that you’ll kill at some point anyway. Saving some random bloke for 50 more gold is of not interest to the player or the character, even (Geralt is quick to say so actually).

They are the themeparks of the RPG. Artificial, bloated with grind, and with no meaningful progression or replayability.

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Names I’ve given to zones most recently. Elfwood, Peachland, Deadsville, Bamboo city, Pleasure shack, Mushin’s pad… Love nicknames when they work.

So… guess what? Yup. BnS has been reinvigorated in my blood. My Gunner, in just these few weeks since launch of the new class, is not only my main but also my best geared toon.

And now I’ve reached the minimum requirements for two bad ass raids and the introduction of at least one more with next weeks content drop so… Let’s just say if you need me, you’ll know where to find me.

On a more somber note, my motorcycle is being neglected. Feel bad not taking her out. The other day, I just started her just to listen to the engine again. LOL.

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Most of the nicknames I’ve given to game zones involve multiple swear words I probably shouldn’t print here :-D

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Seeing this raid boss, just outside the actual raid, Black Tower makes me sing an oldie but a goodie.

“Hello darkness, my old friend
I’ve come to talk with you again…”

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“Who’s my good boy? You’re my good boy! Yes you are!”

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Armsbend

Kind of too cute to kill. He just needs a game of fetch and a cute collar.

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Lol! “What is it, girl? Little Johnny fell down a well? Show me where! Good, girl!”‘

Although I should also add that is one of the things that keeps me playing this game. Some bosses are cute. They look tame, serene and quite harmless. And then, WAHM! A razor sharp talon comes out of their mouth and takes a chunk out of you.

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Armsbend

You made me bookmark the BnS home page in case I can make some room on my HD later :)

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Lol! If you do, make sure you start off by playing the gunslinger. You won’t regret it.

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Hirku

Your BnS screenies have brought me this close to downloading many times. If I get tired of WoW that’ll probably be my next stop.

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Cool! If and when you are ready. Let me know and I will help get you started in the right direction.

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Armsbend

Pretty much just WoW. I’m really enjoying just walking through the zones, listening to the music and getting a feel for the ultra-fleshed out universe. I’m almost at 60 so I get to fly a bit –
exciting. Bought a 3 month sub so I’m invested.

I might try to catch up a bit on Warframe this week too before a big fishing trip reunion next week!

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This has been my experience, pretty much, as well, as someone who basically hasn’t touched World of Warcraft since launch.

There’s so much to see and to do — and with everyone (apparently) huddled up together in the hubs and the current endgame zones, most of the time, it feels like I have all of Azeroth to myself.

Cheers,

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Michael18

Still inching through Baldur’s Gate 2, currently in chapter 6, 75h in.

Gotta say I enjoyed BG1 more (at least when running it in the BG2 engine).

BG2 has some really annoying aspects to it: quests with time limit; quests without time limit but the game is lying in your face and claims there is a time limit (no way of telling the difference); game forces you into story decisions without providing enough info on the options; party members running off; extremely tedious spell system (of course, that’s mostly due to d&d 2ed); game’s forcing you into save scumming; fights that require an huge amout of preparation and thus break the flow of story and exploration (esp. in chapter 5; chapter 2 is ok). I could go on.

Of course, for its time it surely must’ve been a great game and milestone in cRPG design. But I’d not say it aged extremely well.

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Hirku

Ouch. I’ve already struggled with IE games because I don’t like real-time-with-pause, but time limits just might be a dealbreaker.

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I’m under 30 jumps from the bubble after a slow and leisurely two-week trip back from Colonia. The ~22,000 Light Years behind me are welcome in the rear sensors. Once I get back I have some rank grinding to do, some engineering, a bit of Powerplay and some grinding before I set up either a little Keelback, or perhaps a Python, as a Search & Rescue vehicle. I’m super stoked to rescue people from the black void of space and not feel like dropping off escape pods is a direct ticket into slavery. Plus it is an activity that fits well into my Winters allegiance: “We should do what is right, not necessarily what is easy or popular;” “Our society can only become stronger by lifting those at the bottom, not pushing them deeper.”

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Right now, it’s all about Persona 5: I’ve been having my three day weekend since Thursday, so it’s been this pretty much non-stop. At 40 hours in, I’m coming up on the half way point, and I have to say that I’m pleasantly surprised by how much of the story that is surprising me: I find that Japanese story telling often tends to broadcast their “surprise twists” long in advance with gigantic arrows pointing towards stuff saying “this is important”; but while I’m finding the plot somewhat predictable, the exact ways the events are unfolding is surprising to me. It took me months to finally settle down with this game and play it, often looking at it in my PS4 library as a big (and full priced) mistake, but now I’m really glad I got it.

When I’m not playing Persona 5, I’m playing a bit of Mario Kart 8. I can fire it up, play for 20 minutes, and log right back off, having had nothing but fun for that entire time. It is just a pure joy to play, and my only regret is that it wasn’t the first game I grabbed for my Switch.

The coming week could be interesting: Elex launches on Tuesday, and I’m torn about it. On one hand it looks interesting and fun; on the other hand though, from the game play videos it looks cheap and outdated graphically. And I’m not sure of where to buy it if I do jump in. I’m avoiding Steam these days when possibly, but they at least have their 2 hour refund window; GoG.com does not do refunds unless it’s flat out non-functional, but at least has DRM free (so I could “lend” to a friend who wants to play); and Origin has the best price, but no official refund policy for third party games, and I’m not fan of EA’s “let’s take everything awesome about Star Wars, and puke lootboxes all over it” this last year (both Battlefront 2 and SWTOR). I’ll decide soon enough, but it’s looking like one of the two evil empires is going to get my money this time.

A question for those playing Grim Dawn, Divinity: Original Sin 2, and/or Battle Chasers: Nightwar this week: how playable would you say they are on a laptop touchpad? It’s looking like I’m going to have to camp out with my laptop in my local Starbucks for a few hours now and then over the next couple weeks and I’m looking for something I can play without having to hook up an actual mouse. Also has to be available on GoG.com because Starbucks wifi will block Steam and Origin.

T-minus ten days to Destiny 2 the way it’s meant to be played…

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hey if you want add me on bnet for d2 at deekayzero#1268

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I am still doing that thing where I see D2 and my first reaction was, wow, you can use Battlenet for Diablo II still??

Dammit. :D

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Hirku

Heh, I’m already lost most of the time with all the shorthand around here, what’s one more in the pile? : )

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Years ago, I was taught that one uses the full name of something once, at the first mention, when writing, and then the short form can be used for every occurrence afterward.

I’m not sure most media do it this way any more, but I try to remember to do it here in my posts, because I know what i’s like to feel utterly confused by game name shortforms, same as you. :-D

Cheers, Hirku,

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rafael12104

Agree wholeheartedly on Destiny 2, although I won’t start that bad boy until our Thanksgiving holiday, I think.

Ah, Persona 5. Yup. Gets a bit grindy but worth it in my view.

This year has been a great year for single player games. A banner year. Persona 5, Horizon Zero Dawn, Breath of the Wild, Nier Automata, are all game of the year candidates. Usually one maybe two games are real contenders, but this year those 4 are strong candidates and there maybe more with Call of Duty still to come.

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I do hope all the anticipatory hype for Destiny 2 appearing on PC doesn’t cause a backlash.

I love the game on my my PS4, but I played it like a mad beast when it came out on the console, and burned through most of the initial content on offer in about two weeks of intense play.

I fully admit, I was playing many hours each day, but it’s the kind of game (like the first Destiny) where you play the content you’ve got, then busy yourself with the repeatable stuff until the next content drop.

It’s not Fallout 4, is what I’m saying. One can’t just wander the digital galaxy at will, looking for undiscovered things. The Destiny games are very much story and mission based.

Cheers,

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Michael18

so sad breath of the wild is exclusive. It looks like a game I’d greatly enjoy.

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i know ppl who play it on pc via emulator >>

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rafael12104

Oh, really? Interesting.

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you need a pretty high end pc for it tho i think they were saying. idk. i don’t even remember what they said the emulator is called. >>

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rafael12104

Yeah, I hear you. Maybe someday hardware won’t be an issue.

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Sray

I’m glad that this is the year that I got off my PCMR high horse and grabbed… well… all of the consoles (it might have looked like I was buying all this crap like a drunken sailor, but it was all quite planned out except for exact timing). In a time where multiplayer game developers all seem to be saying to me “we’re not interested in your money: you’re not the kind of whale we’re hunting” there’s been an absolute wealth of games for me to fall in love with this year.

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I agree. I love PC games, and I love my PS4. Between the two, I always seem to find something fun to play.

I find some games play better on the PS4 for me — in terms of controls and interface — while other games clearly do best on the PC.

I just can’t get into the “platform wars” either — play what works for you; play what’s fun. Fun is the point, after all. :-)

Cheers, my friend,

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i’m not really PCMR myself i just don’t like gaming on a tv or while sitting on a couch or using a controller.

maybe rdr2 will have mkb support – would tip me on getting a ps4 for it lol

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Don’t really see Sony going for M+K on the PS4 anytime soon, but Microsoft would be fools not to make it a standard part of the XB1X: they’re on a big cross platform kick these days, so being able to 100% fully integrate their console and PC users in multiplayer completely nullifies Sony’s population edge. Plus the idea of being able to sell “standardized equipment for e-sports” would be a huge selling point if they had M+K.

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it’s game specific support on ps since ps3 actually. that stupid eve fps had mkb support for example.

ms allows it in xbone as well now.

ofc it’s causing problems for overwatch on both platforms i hear becuase people sideload mkb thingy apps that allow them to dominate in the game with it’s controller centric balance.

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Oh, PCs are still the Master Race, as I’m sure you will agree. But.. there is room for others. Lol.

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I have Elex pre-ordered on GoG. I might be able to give a run down on next weeks wrup if it will help any and you can wait :-)

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Hirku

I’m interested, too. I have a love/hate thing with Piranha Bytes: loved Gothic back in the day, but hated Risen.

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Let me know what you thought. I”m a big fan of GoG and the indie scene in general. The AAA titles that seem to dominate the PC landscape are starting to become too nickel-and-dimey for me.

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It will be another weekend of Rift for me. I’ve just about finished the Scatherran Forest zone on my Rogue and will be either at or close to level 67 when I do, because of the extra XP boost for the weekend and an XP potion I had lying around. Given how drastically the TTK changed when mobs became level 66, I’ll take any advantage I can get, including being a little overleveled. I may spend a little time on my level 50 Mage which I’ve been playing again in preparation for the Mystic Archer release.

And then if/when I’m not playing Rift, I’ll be working through my first play through of Borderlands. Humble Bundle has an amazing deal for all 3 Borderlands games right now which includes a few other titles as well (Wurm Unlimited being one of them) and I couldn’t pass it up. So far the original Borderlands has been a lot of fun. I like the art style and the gameplay seems good however I don’t play FPS games very often so I don’t have a lot to compare to.

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Most of my time will be spent in Final Fantasy XIV as usual, but there might be a few other things that demand my attention. I’ve been feeling the itch to go back to various games that I own, such as Mortal Kombat X and Remember Me. I think I just kind of want to beat people up. Digitally, I mean.

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Bryan Correll

PoE as usual for a while now. Plus some more Wildstar, probably. There’s a lot I like about it and it’s pretty fun to play with its goofy humor (what other game gives you a leveling notification by a voice yelling “That’s f’ing awesome!”?). But It hasn’t really quite clicked with me to the point where I can see playing it long term.

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wildstar is alot of fun with a friend or two for a few months. but i found it really hard to play alone. but i liked it enough i found other guilds to play with when my own guild randomyl quit. lol

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Mewmew

“And those are just the ones where my wife and I didn’t just add obscenities to the name for no reason”

Uh, sounds really mature…

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It’s all in good fun. :D

I am partial to f-bombs. I seldom get to use them anymore, between work and wee ones, so I sneak them in when I can. I know I owe a lot to the community curse jar!

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Armsbend

Mature like commenting on a video game forum with the name Mewmew? Back to my science texts and punctuality classes!

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you forgot the loli anime avatar XD

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deekay_plus

being mature is all about being able to swear as you like and knowing when it’s appropriate and not appropriate to do so.

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Hirku

This week was a crash course in WoW 101: a whole lot of guide-reading, configuration-tweaking (hooray for scalable UI!), and running a bunch of characters through starter zones. Now I’m happily settled with my Monk on a RP server with a friendly population that’s just the right size for me (always plenty of people around, but also plenty of elbow room to go be lonely in the wilderness).

The game isn’t perfect–the story and characters at least early on are very blah, and the game doesn’t seem friendly for people who aren’t well-versed in Warcraft lore– but it does so many large and small things right that it makes everything I’ve tried since TSW look substandard.

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As I said to someone — if you can take World Of Warcraft for what it is — and find fun in that — it can be a a great diversion.

I lasted about a month back at launch; I’m having a much better time with the game now.

Enjoy!

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the 20-60 content isn’t very coherent story or lore wise at all. it’s almost entirely pop culture references and memes from 2008-2010, and shitty minigames.

it’s a big part of the reason i only lasted 45 minutes the last time i tried to play on a fresh account lol.

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Malcolm Swoboda

Its time to remake the leveling process (using tech and design advancements made since) and leave Cata leveling quests for the private servers… (and lock away the other expansion leveling to be a very optional process through some time portal or something).

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you and me both wish bro.

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Can’t talk, Plains of Eidolon.

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Today is pretty much all about Shadow of War with some breaks to play Alien: Isolation.
I’ve been hitting Shadow of War pretty hard all week. It’s such a huge improvement over the original. The story is adequate, but I am just kind of hurrying through it to get it out of the way so the true stars can shine. I’ve already had more emergent drama in Shadow of War than the original game gave me in its entirety.

Shadow of War has really been pushing me back to LOTRO, though, which is a good thing considering my recent MMO slump. The Ivalice raid is tugging at me something awful, but there are places in Middle-Earth I want to visit before the chance to do so might go away.

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waiting to pick up Shadow of War when it goes on sale (I’m in no hurry, have plenty of games to get through yet).

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lian has been lamenting the turn of events with lotros most recent content patch adn the whole lockbox fiasco, so prepare to be dissapointed sadly. i’m sure there is other older content that is worth looking at tho so maybe just avoid the latest stuff?

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Yeah, if it’s possible I mostly just want to go through the main storylines of the expansions. I’ve never even seen Moria, for example. I haven’t kept up with LOTRO news but what whispers I’ve heard haven’t been great ..

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If nothing else, the Harvestmath Festival is up until Hallowe’en. I bought Mordor, but found myself spending more time in the interim festivals than in Mordor – go figure.

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nobleeinherjar

I love LOTRO’s festivals. My problem has been that every time I’ve gone back to LOTRO, it’s been my luck that a festival is in progress and I end up burning myself out by hitting them hard to get all the rewards I want. I need to pace myself better.

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Well, i’m back, new PC, desktop this time and for the first time i don’t miss using laptops, mechanical keyboard is so nice to use i just want an excuse to write anything, anyway .. the problem now is the wireless connection, it’s not good for online gaming, so no MMOs for me until i have an ethernet connection.

Playing single-player games and Minecraft, man i miss that game, it is so much fun to play, i went back to watch Minecraft videos in youtube, so many creative people out there, trying to learn from them.

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Oh boy so many options this weekend but at the moment I am not sure what to focus on. The choices are GW2: Path of Fire, Divinity Original Sin 2, Warframe: Plains of Eidilon, Grim Dawn: Ashes of Malmouth and Middle Earth: Shadows of War.

The first two I have delved into the most and the rest I have dabbled in a little. If I was being organised I should probably focus on finishing GW2 and DOS2 as they are the ones I put the most time into so far but those other games keep whispering in my ears “Play me, play me”. I might have to break out the dice and let them decide for me if I can’t pin one down myself.

Well hope you all have a safe and fun gaming weekend :-)

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i got shadows of war for free from nvidia randomly but i’m holding off til hafilax buys it on discount some months from now so i have someone to chat about it with. :P

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From the little bit of it I have played so far it seems to be fun. I enjoyed the first one a lot too and this seems to be following on in the same vein but with a few added wrinkles added to the mix.

I find it satisfying just running around chopping off orc heads or chain stealth killing them but there are loads of collectables, quest and story too. I think I will be spending a good chunk of time in this game, even before the season pass stuff comes along :-)

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nice thing about the nvidia give away is it came with the base game and all the previous dlc lol. was kind of confusing until i figured it out lol

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Ysayle was right

*squints* Since when does a WRUP topic have anything to do with MMOs?

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a broken clock is right twice a day but a digital clock that has been reset is forever wrong!

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haven’t gotten much gaming in aside from an NDA player test i can’t really talk about. mostly been watching the boys play hearthstone and factorio as we wait for destiny 2 to hit pc in just over a week.

also ordered adn recieved a new music making machine called the maschine mk2. pretty much integrates with software on your pc which the software is kind of like old school fruity loops but with less obvious instruments/samples. i’m super excited to get working on a new solo album to learn it and then be prepped for the fourth tutty underground album.

which becuase i didn’t take any video at all this week, enjoy yet again teh music video we made for our first single off our third album, the dirty klingon experience!

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also i never remember the names of zones in mmo’s except for wow tbc’s nagrand. so forever after their names become their most obvious traits or their colour scheme. LOL

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Ya….still DOS:2 with 80+ hours so far – best RPG I have played since Skyrim (still have Witcher 3 GOTY waiting on the desktop).

Check out that tail armour.

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Oh wow. High praise indeed. Hmm… Might have to move this one up the priority list.

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we are gonna play dos2 after destiny 2 has worn out it’s welcome in the new year. been looking forward to it for a long time really.

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