The Daily Grind: Is PUBG finally the ‘WoW killer killer’ we’ve been waiting for?

Say the words “WoW killer” to a bunch of MMORPG players in 2017 and you’re bound to get eyerolls, for good reason: Even though we’ve been watching over the last decade as game after game chased the title, most folks don’t really believe that any MMORPG will ever truly “kill” World of Warcraft except possibly WoW itself, however slowly. Globally oriented, e-sports-centric games like MOBAs and shooters have long since surpassed the MMORPG market anyway, beating them at their own community game.

What I didn’t really expect to ever see was a game that killed the “WoW killers,” and that’s exactly what PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds is doing. Oh, League of Legends, Dota 2, and CS:GO aren’t dead, and they’re not going to roll over and give up so easily, not when they’re still making money hand-over-fist (just a little bit less than before). But I have to admit that I didn’t see this coming. Battle royale is an old game type, and PUBG isn’t even the first to try to revivify it. I never expected this kind of dramatic sea change in online gaming. We’re watching a huge shift happening right before our eyes, and bizarrely enough, Daybreak is partly responsible.

Is PUBG a “WoW killer killer”? Is PUBG really worthy of all the fuss, or are people just sick of the old-school MOBA and shooter lineup?

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no…. cause MMORPG players won’t be moving to PUBG at all, they’re in it for the RPG, not for BR. So by default this is invalid.

And thus I roll my eyes.

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The Dallas Dapifer🌪

Anyone else find it funny that WoW was the Everquest Killer and its still around? Enough of us lived through this MMO Era to realize we have come full circle. WoW will still be around in 2030 after the Singularity and I wouldn’t be surprised if it has something to do with it.

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Mr Poolaty

NO but if GTA 6 is an mmo then yes

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Witches

I think some people never liked that lineup and are just waiting for something that caters to them.

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Fervor Bliss

Like you stated, WoW stoped being No 1 MMO population a long time ago. Even Overwatch crushes WoW numbers. For those that enjoy it good for them. Some people collect stamps. The only thing that changed is no one is WoW wannabe’s anymore. “Let work hard and be No 2”, is not a great rally cry.

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Jeremy Barnes

Overwatch is not, has not ever been an MMO.

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Sally Bowls

“WoW stoped[sic] being No 1 MMO population a long time ago”???? There are probably Chinese MMOs that are bigger. And if you count console sales TESO may or may not be bigger. But WoW is the only MMO in the top 10 PC games revenue. Just because the people here have WoW issues does not mean it is not still the largest MMO.

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Witches

I think you are overestimating ESO.

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Schmidt.Capela

Actually, Fantasy Westward Journey II — the perennial second place in PC games per revenue, behind only LoL — is a MMO. A Chinese MMO from 2001 with graphics that look like an anime version of UO.

So, if you include China, WoW is not the largest MMO, neither by revenue nor by players. And likely never was; Fantasy Westward Journey already had 1.5M concurrent users in 2007.

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luxundae

Ok, lets do this…. Naked Gnome Races starting in Yasnaya and heading down to the military base! No projectile weapons allowed!

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Paul

How can it possibly be a WoW killer when it isn’t even close to being an MMO ??

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Sally Bowls

Reminder:

Please note that back in July, PUBG went to RL$-to-open lockboxes and said those drop-in-game ones probably would not be in the live game. In the following three months, the concurrency skrocketed over 500%, up by nearly 2M concurrent players. Give the customers what they want?

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Sally Bowls

For once, I don’t want to quibble with the article title but it is not a killer in the sense of direct zero sum choices. You don’t get to 2.3M even if you took all of H1Z1s players. Sorry. I meant that 2.3M is bigger than LoL and DOTA combined. And LoL and DOTA are off a bit I imagine but not drastically, at least relative to 2.3M. So there is some market expansion going as well.
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China and Korea are “half” the players. (BTW, where do you think Kakao is spending its marketing budget on, a year old BDO or their Korean launch of PUBG?)

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Schmidt.Capela

I’m not sure where LoL currently stands (they are very selective in which info they release), but it had over 5M concurrent players back in 2014. Assuming LoL didn’t lose most of its players since then, PUBG still has a lot to grow before it can challenge LoL.

Though, of course, the two are not direct competitors.

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John Mynard

I would like to remind everyone about how stars work.

The bigger a star gets the faster it burns through its fuel and sooner it dies.

I, personally, don’t see the appeal, but others do and that’s fine. But when you start trying to sue people for producing a similar product to your own, you’ve passed into levels of douchebag reserved for politicians, high-level bankers and movie executives. I sense the end coming for PUBG, it won’t be pretty and it won’t be fast, but it’s coming.

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Raimo Kangasniemi

It’s about as much a ‘WoW killer’ as…. let’s say Zelda is a Super Mario killer. ;)

One is a MMORPG, the other not even a MMOFPS.

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Sally Bowls

I almost sent in a tip topic:

How do you think the PUBG success will (and should, different question) inform MMO devs?

One argument is “see, people really do want to kill each other; we need more PvP in our MMO”

Another argument is “MMOs are expensive worlds and will never be able to compete with higher volume, cheaper to make games. We need to make focus on the content MMOs can uniquely deliver.”

Of course, there are the also rans such as the genius at Turbine who got them into MOBAs at the expense of MMOs who will pitch the idea of a survival game “and if we just get 10% of PUBG’s numbers we will be great”

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Witches

The problem with argument #1 is the pointless 50+ level grind required to start killing other people properly.

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Dug From The Earth

The tree ran over the far reaches of the side bar, unknowingly sparse of all pretense, hunger, and smell. One might think, “birds dont understand” but truly, thats only speculation. If things continue, expect fathom depths of amazing splendor.

Oh what? I thought it was post something utterly ridiculous and nonsensical day when i saw this article. :P

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Roger Christie

PLUNKBAT! It’s PLUNKBAT!

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Knox Harrington

If we’re talking about killers of WoW killers, then wouldn’t Battlefront 2 be the most obvious choice? It’s poised to kill SWTOR, which was once poised to kill WoW. I don’t see how PUBG or Fortnite or any other game in this new fly-by-night genre is going to affect any game that could be considered a WoW killer or attempted killer.

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Greaterdivinity

No.

I still don’t understand the draw of the game and why it’s still blowing up. I feel like I’ve had folks try to explain, but for some reason it just never “clicks” with me. Then again, half the games that blow up due to streamers (shit like 5 Nights at Freddy’s) confuses the hell outta me.

Oh well, continue enjoying it, people I don’t understand. Enjoy all the battle royaling, with or without cheese.

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borghive

different strokes for different folks

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Sally Bowls

+1 and /salute for the movie reference. Although, are we still allowed to like Harvey’s movies?

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A Dad Supreme

Sure. Harvey didn’t star in them, he just financed them lol.

It would be like saying Trump haters (me) aren’t allowed to like Suicide Squad, The Accountant, Batman vs Superman, Midnight Special, Mad Max (Fury Road), American Sniper, or The LEGO Movie because Steven Mnunchin (Trump’s Treasury Secretary) produced those.

Sometimes despicable people can help make decent things.

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Carebear

I was always saying that wow killer is wow itself and is not that far from truth..

While i still play some months per year the game have definitely is not as popular as it used to. 80% of eu servers are empty..

Last time i really had tons of fun playing wow was in a vanilla private server.

I dont think pubg is wow killer cause it has nothing similar with an rpg mmo to attract players from there.. or any other rpg mmo

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Utakata

It looks and smells all PvP. So from a PvE perspective, it won’t be killing WoW for me.

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Personally, I think Fortnite is more accessible, and that’ll end up the ultimate winner. That being said, I’m not terribly surprised that Battle Royale is doing well these days. We’ve seen people respond to arena matches in the past. I’m more of a world PvP type person, but Overwatches single elimination 3v3s may be my favorite mode for when I want some quick PvP action. The survival genre had been playing with this (H1Z1), but a lot of those mechanics have limited appeal. Stripping some of those away and working it more into something between Arena play and World PvP with an ever-shrinking “world” almost seems natural for MMO fans at the least, and something lobby shooter fans can “get”

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deekay_plus

the gun play balance and itemization of fortnite is fucking terrible tho. unless they can fix these fundemental issues quickly the short term mild success it’s seen will be … well short lived.

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borghive

PUBG will win out in my opinion, the game has been out longer and the graphics don’t look like a Pixar movie.

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#1 Reason this game is killing it is that player interaction and community are the focus of this game.

WoW used to be this way, but they started to cater to people who basically want a single player RPG. There is very little meaningful player interaction in WoW these days except for maybe Mythic + and raiding.

Casual players like myself have very little avenues for meaningful player interaction in WoW these days, that is why I love games like Overwatch and PUBG.

Granted there can be times of toxicity, but the majority of my experiences have been a lot of fun as well as meeting some great people.

The biggest reason I see MMOS are losing their luster, is because they don’t emphasize community anymore.

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Sorenthaz

Of course it isn’t a WoW killer if we’re going to ignore League of Legends in the same thought.

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Robert Mann

I have never heard of a game in a different genre being called the “X top dog killer.” Simply put, crossing genres with that is new and seems odd. Because you are drawing on largely different groups of players.

That said, maybe? There’s always a new spot around for people to go and shoot at others. How long any of them last, is largely based on when the next idea of how to do it best comes around.

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Nick // Genghis

As an outsider with at least 3-5 friends that regularly play PUBG (meaning it’s their go-to coop/multiplayer game as of right now), there are a few things they did super duper right to make it a success from what I can gather:

1. Catering to the twitch audience and providing streamers the resources to play and engage with the community. They really got people involved from the get go and that’s why it boomed overnight. I won’t touch on the streamer protections that a lot of people got upset about (car honking, etc), but overall just the level of word of mouth was staggering. I can’t tell you how many giveaways, contests, etc that these streamers are doing, something similar to what Warframe is doing now with the new patch and all these streamers being “partnered” with the GAME, not with twitch and I’m sure we’ll see something like that very soon.

2. Randomness = Fun and replayable. You can really choose how to play the game based on what your mindset is at the time. It is very sandbox-y in nature and allows for stealth, rambo-run-n-gun, or tactical/squad based play regardless of if you’re playing with people or not. Like others have said, the game has a high instance of “quiet, quiet, OH SH**” moments and crazy antics from strange graphics or physics in the game. My one buddy that is obsessed with it constantly links clips from his games both goofy stuff and high intensity action where he outplays his enemies. The game doesn’t take itself too seriously since when you get a meal as your reward for getting #1.

3. Monetization. The main things here are that they released in EA on Steam. First good move, get it in front of as many eyes as possible for PC gamers. Plenty of exposure talked about above, on top of a flat fee, with the possibility of cosmetic trading in the marketplace. I know this doesn’t sound like much, but pair that with the same mechanics of CS:GO with knife and weapon skins, PUBG is on it’s way to be that next big eSport, regardless of what we or anyone thinks, the fact it’s already being talked about as televised similar to a true physical sport should tell you everything you need to know. Bottom line, dollar amounts, getting a stimulated internalized economy based on playtime and unlocks and RNG drops = lots of moolah for Bluehole and the domestic dev company (don’t know the name).

All in all, I would more equate it to Overwatch rather than a regular MMO like WoW. The reason being are the memes. And I know that sound super trolly/goofy, but think about it. The rise of popularity about frypans, laying in fields, a sheer amount of Youtube and twitch personalities playing and posting content for PUBG is more reminiscent of the way Overwatch came out, and basically now anytime I go to the bar or tell people I play games, they lead with, “Oh you play PC games? Well you probably play a lot of OW don’t you.” It’s slowly beginning to become more and more ingrained into our culture much like COD, Halo, WoW. South Park episode and cross over promotions with a chicken joint for the “Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner” shtick. It’s only a matter of time, but just the other night I went over to my girlfriend’s parents house, and I saw the Xbox One had Fortnite BR downloading, asked my Brother-in-Law about it and he said, “Yea I would play a ton of PUBG, but I don’t have a proper PC to play it with and I heard this is pretty good so I thought I would check it out.” I chuckled and left. Fortnite BR is to PUBG as Paladins is to OW. Does any of this make me want to play it? Absolutely not. I tried Fortnite and it was just as I suspected, not for me, but I can appreciate from afar as I do with plenty of other games. Just my 2c

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When the New York Times
Said God is dead and the war’s begun…

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“Madman Across The Water” is one of my favorite EJ albums. :)

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Joshua Dickerson

Umm…………nope dont think so.

Different genre’s, different game type (guns vs fantasy).

Maybe a Call of Duty/Destiny 2/GTA Online killer.

But WoW? Maybe the PvP community……….if they like guns and bullets over fantasy.

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Paragon Lost

Since I’ve not paid much attention to PuBG since it looks like a First Person game play style game, I had no idea that Daybreak might have something to do with it? I need Bree or someone to explain her comment towards the end of the article…

“We’re watching a huge shift happening right before our eyes, and bizarrely enough, Daybreak is partly responsible.” -Bree

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Arktouros

If anything WOW should have taught people by now that games do not kill other games.

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Spello Tape

PUBG is an easy game to watch – it is constantly pushing first on Twitch of most watched games, but it doesn’t seem quite able to match LoL, and whenever some kind of LoL tournament is on it dwarves PUBG and everything else. If it’s killing League/DotA/CS it’s a slow burn, but I don’t know if that can be attributed solely to PUBG: those games have been slowly losing players for years. PUBG was lucky to benefit from that draining of players.

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A Dad Supreme

“Haven’t seen a game eat everyone’s lunch in the gaming genre like this since when WoW started to take off.”
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I said that not a full day ago in a thread about PUBG.

I think most of us who were into MMOs back when EQ2/FFXI/WoW all launched within a couple of years of each other. It was a time when those games were new, healthy and had their own fanbases solidly entrenched as well as a few other older titles. No one ever thought there would be “one game to rule them all”; it just sort of happened within a perfect storm.

As a FFXI junkie during that time, I certainly didn’t see the rise coming even though in-game you would hear whispers about this “new cartoony kid’s game” that came out, but I watched it for years until it reached juggernaut proportions and then I gave it a try.

That’s what PUBG reminds me of; a game that crept up on it’s competition in it’s particular genre without any real warning and took it over. It’s not my type of game so I’ll probably never play it but it’s fascinating to see it’s domination grow each day over it’s competitors just by word of mouth, just like WoW did.

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Paragon Lost

Great write up of the time of EQ2/FFXI/WoW and how things basically rolled. I can’t speak of PUBG because I wasn’t paying close attention to it because I thought it was a First Person Shooter and I just can’t play those without feeling like I’m gonna puke all the time.

Anyhow if that’s what you see going on with PUBG, then you and others might just very well be correct. Interesting, I really had decided that we wouldn’t see something blow up like WoW did for many years. Though who knows, it could be a short burn. Look how gangbusters Pokemon GO burst on the seen and then went lost a lot of players. At the time I had started thinking that maybe that was the future that most everyone would want to focus on augmented reality style games.

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A Dad Supreme

There definitely is the chance it could be a short burn. You never can tell how things will go with any certainty regarding games and gamers.

The one thing I see that’s pretty different from games in the past that faded out is that those games were being pushed mainly by the companies with huge ad campaigns, hype, and gimmicks (giveaways, etc). The companies were relying on themselves to make the game popular in an old-school type of way.

PUBG seems different in that the game appears to be (outsider view here) a purely Twitch player/word of mouth advertised game. Now I’ve read the game pays streamers to play PUBG just as other games do, but the thing is you don’t see their hand in it. It looks to be purely a customer driven/fan driven thing as far as appearances go. That’s important because people like to think they aren’t being manipulated and they are making the choice to like/dislike something on their own without a company pushing something.

The appearance is as if the hype is coming all from the players, not the company and that’s kind of how WoW started. It wasn’t until a few years later (2005-6 ish?) when Blizzard realized they could dominate the genre, they pushed out all those Mr.T/Chuck Norris celeb ads for the game which got MMO virgins into gaming but by then they had already established a huge hardcore base.

PUBG seems to have even more of an advantage in a way than even WoW did, since the hot thing now is competitive gaming poised to rake in millions and become mainstream, much of it due to Twitch which seems to be PUBG’s main vehicle (along with YTube). Many viewers understand they’ll never be a pro gamer but a game like PUBG that doesn’t matter; you can be as good or as bad as you want because the players say it’s just plain fun, which is what WoW was at it’s core.

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I have a few friend that play PUBG and seem to like it not tried it myself yet though ( I will probably wait for it to be on offer or for a weekend trial on steam ) . Sound good but I think for something to be a WoWkiller it would have to be an mmorpg .

I went back to WoW for a month recently and was shocked at how many low servers there are now even at peak times . I am aware that server capacity was increased but even so there were very few medium servers and only a handful of high on the EU servers . It’s obviously far from dead but it is a game that is in a noticeable decline now .

I think Blizzard could reverse that with pristine( advanced mode servers) and legacy servers quite easily

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I’m sure PUBG is going to have a big impact on the fortunes of a number of games. It may have some impact on WoW and other MMOs as well, just because in the largest view the gaming market as a whole is a bit of a zero sum prospect, and any time spent playing one thing won’t be spent playing another thing.

But I’m not sure any of the games you posit as WoW killers ever had much impact on WoW, or the MMO market segment in general. They all have an impact on each other, but I’m not convinced there is a lot of meaningful overlap in these segments.

There surely are people who play MMOs and also play shooters or MOBAs, but the FPS and MOBA and now battle royale arena shooter markets are things unto themselves, with respect to MMOs. Those markets are 10x or 100x larger than the entire MMO market ever has been or will be, and my guess is that more than 90% of the players in the FPS and MOBA / arena / BR market do not play any MMO, and would not play one if their current favorite title went away tomorrow.

Also, by any plausible measure there are more currently active and viable MMOs today, and more people overall playing them, than there have been at any point in the past. And the current market easily is 10x or 100x larger than it was at the dawn of the MMO genre when the early major movers like EQ were in their prime.

And there are more new games, in development right now, both WoW clones and games that break far wide of the WoW mold, than there ever have been in the past. Not all of those will succeed in the long run, but some will.

Much of that is due to WoW, but not all of it. Certainly there are a ton of players who never played any MMO other than WoW, and may not ever play another one, and would not be playing any MMO at all if WoW did not exist. But even the games that do only modestly well are doing better in absolute numbers than games that were a big deal back in the day.

In that sense, if anything kills WoW or any other MMO, it will be mistakes made by Blizzard or the developers of other games, or players moving from one MMO to another, far more than players who play other things and have no interest in any MMO, and never will.

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(Edit – Was acknowledged what the intent/question was farther down the chat – removing the unnecessary part of my post then since it was clarified :) )

Will PUBG be the game that kills the other games that people thought were WoW killers?

(Edit – Posting from work, doing so in parts)
I do not know what impact PUBG will have on esports like LOL and DOTA. I do not believe PUBG has an esports scene – correct me if i’m wrong – so it’s only impact is to maintain the top game on Twitch. However, from an esports POV, LOL and DOTA and such still surpass PUBG because…. it isn’t an esport.

It’s just a very enjoyable and popular game to play/watch for a large number of people. But it’s not going to topple any esports giants.

Yeah, it makes money. A lot of games make a lot of money, but that doesn’t really do anything by itself

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Armsbend

I dont understand how this makes sense. Are you implying that a game that has no relation to another game is going to pull so many people away from…PVE questing to a…shooter that it will kill it?

This grind honestly doesn’t make any sense to me.

Maybe if you said will PUBG be the Overwatch killer then okay. Did Overwatch kill WoW?

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Paragon Lost

So it is a First Person Shooter. Ok, thought I’d read about it intially as such. Which is why I stopped paying close attention to it. Good point about it being potentially as Overwatch killer than and not a WoW killer.

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Hah, hell no. WoW still makes much more money than PUBG can ever hope to do. Seeing how one only costs $30, and other costs $15 a monthly sub.

And LoL? That game has a 100 million active players a month. PUBG only has around 1 million active players a month.

What does WoW and LoL have that PUBG doesn’t have? Gameplay variety.
Unless PUBG starts adding more game modes/maps/skins/etc to increase variety, I don’t see PUBG ever killing WoW or LoL.

EDIT: As for it being a WoW killer killer? Over 16 million copies sold with a shoestring budget developed in less than a year. Pretty sure other “WoW killers” will be hard pressed to be that successful. If that’s not the hallmark of a killer. Then I don’t know what is.

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Josh Wolford

I don’t understand what you trying to achieve by asking this question. Though I will try and play along. WOW managed to get 10 million players to purchase a full price game and pay 15 buck a month. This game will never touch that nor impact its current subs in any way. I have always had an MMO and a shooter that I play on a day to day basis, one genre does not take away from the other.

I don’t really understand the hype of PUBG.

Seems these days that the writes of MMORPG’s are tired of writing about them and want to do something else. Seems common among all the MMO sites I visit.

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Pandalulz

If PUBG could be considered a WoW killer, then League of Legends took the title a long time ago. But since WoW will trudge along with or without these guys, it doesn’t even matter.
EDIT: Read Bree’s comment above and thought about it in that light. It is definitely the hot new thing. Let me know when it hits LoL size numbers and has at least a dozen knock-offs and then I’ll call it a killer killer killer or whatever.

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Reht

Nothing is going to kill WoW except Blizzard, certainly not a game that’s not even in the same genre. I know plenty of people who play it in addition to WoW, for their PvP fix, but none who have actually stopped playing WoW entirely because of it.

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Wolfyseyes

I honestly feel like PUBG is doing the Blizzard thing; streamlining what has been done before into an absolute airfoil while also landing at that “lightning in a bottle” moment of dumb luck. I don’t know if that makes it a Wow killer killer or just astonishingly fortunate, but people seem to be enjoying it and that’s good enough for me.

I’ll just keep watching folks like Bog Otter stream it because these types of games generally are more fun to watch for me than to play. Depending on the broadcaster, natch.

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Skai R

Please don’t say that.

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PUBG is worth a lot of the fuss. It’s scalable in terms of teams, you choose your gameplay style, it’s open to a wide range of player skill, etc. However, it’s not really comparable to your average MMO. If its freeform gameplay is somewhat similar to what makes non-linear MMOs enjoyable, I don’t know anyone who plays it as a substitute for an MMO. There’s no persistence, no character progression, no customization, no mid/long term objectives, no lore, etc. It’s great for quick PvP matches like MOBAs/Arena shooters or battlegrounds, minus the requirement for skilled players and the toxicity usually found in such games/modes. I don’t see much overlapping or concurrency between PUBG and MMOs.

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starbuck1771

Yeah PUBG is more of a survival game along the lines of DayZ & H1Z1’s King of the Kill not an MMORPG like WoW which is why it will not be the WoW killer.

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MesaSage

My feeling is anything that can soak up toxicity out of the genre I love is a good thing. Based on how many people PUBG ban on a daily basis, I’d say it’s working.

The gaming herd has never interested me. My tastes are not mainstream. I am always happy to read about where the herd is going, though.

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starbuck1771

This is a funny story since PUBG isn’t even in the same genre. So the answer will be no.

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Gabriel Nogueira

I was about to say the same thing!

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Bryan Turner

Is this game an MMO, if not then it isn’t a WoW killer.

I’m not even sure how any one can call anything a WoW killer, just the tokens alone will keep WoW afloat and profitable if Activision keeps using Battlenet as a platform to connect new releases like Destiny.

WoW is like Mario or Pac Man at this point, don’t be surprised if 20 years down the road they release one of those nifty consoles for TVs loaded with all the Diablos and Starcrafts and Destinys plus all of the Warcrafts Over watch and the original World of Warcraft while we’re all playing WoW 2 using our Implants.

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Ken from Chicago

Isn’t PUBG a shooter, not a full-fledged mmo?

Oh, yeah, I know how much Bree & The MOP Staff just love semantics wars. ;-)

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Funny, I didn’t realize WoW had been killed, much less that we were now on the lookout for a killer of WoW killers. Sure, PUGB like MOBAs before it may have eclipsed WoW in number of players, but these are entirely different games in different genres which have different, albeit partially overlapping, sets of fans. If it’s just a matter of popularity, you might as well have said that Doom killed RPGs back in the 90’s… but the fact that I’ve enjoyed everything from Elder Scrolls to Baldur’s Gate to Divinity: Original Sin since then argues otherwise.

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Knox Harrington

It’s only a WoW killer if it’s in the same sub genre of games. It’s why Blizzard doesn’t mind allowing you to purchase Destiny 2 with WoW gold. They’re similar games but not identical enough to affect their business that much.

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wratts

Don’t see as how it’s a WoW killer any more than LoL was. It may take over that tactical shooter space from CS:GO, but I doubt people who like large form social raiding and fantasy character development are really the main market for PUBG

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Say the words “WoW killer” to a bunch of MMORPG players in 2017 and you’re bound to get eyerolls

*eyeroll*

Its just a TF2 replacement nothing more.

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rafael12104

Hmm. I suppose it depends on what you mean by WoW killer. There are various interpretations of killers and the answer to the question will vary greatly.

IMO, Mobas weren’t WoW killers. They cut into WoW, wounded it maybe, but in terms of what they offer it isn’t an apples to apples comparison because Mobas are not MMORPGs. The WoW killer has to be an MMORPG, IMO.

But, with regard to your broader point and PUBG, yes. I think PUBG could be the LoL killer or a Moba killer. IMO PUBG will not swamp those games making them worthless or nonviable as profit centers. I’m quite sure that Riots bottom line will remain stupendously profitable. But Valve, Riot, and others have taken note. And now the era of the PUBG clones has begun. Lol. Devs are nothing if not great imitators.

The thing about PUBG, IMO, that changes the genre a bit is that you don’t have to be a “pro” to enjoy this PvP. You don’t have to be as skillfull to enjoy around with other “skilled” or serious players. Because of the survival elements you aren’t just fodder.

A little luck and suddenly you are in the top 10 or better. Lol. Oh, and the vehicles and situations you find yourself in are so much fun while you wait for the serious players to kill each other off.

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