Destiny 2 finally arrives on PC, plans four seasons for first year, and becomes best-selling 2017 game

It’s a glorious day for PC players, as they are being welcomed into Bungie’s sci-fi universe with the release of Destiny 2.

It’s been a month and a half since the title released on consoles, and while the game has reportedly struggled to maintain a strong population, Destiny 2 has already become the year’s best-selling video game to date.

There are a few key differences between the console and PC versions, with the latter getting more graphic options, a mouse-and-keyboard control scheme, and some variations on weapon recoil.

Both versions, however, will receive the same updates going forward, and Bungie has a lot of plans for Destiny 2’s first year. The team revealed that there will be four major “seasons” this year, with each featuring a clan reset and weapons changeover to keep things fresh. Season 2 is supposed to add gear ornaments for those who want to deck out their armor with extra bling.

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Major Glitch

Destiny 2 not only fails to expand on the original, but takes a step backwards in many areas. The progression system is broken, the enemies’ AI is terrible, there’s no text chat, the worlds are mostly empty, and the end-game is horribly shallow.
The one bright spot about Destiny 2’s release is that it’s driving new players to try Warframe.

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Chosenxeno .

The thing is, I just never saw how Destiny is better than Warframe. Warframe is also free and now it’s gone sorta open world.

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StonerMk2

Well i mean for one thing its NOT Warframe. I dont understand why people cant like different things..sure Warframe is a decent game but its not gods gift to looter shooters, and to be honest i prefer Destiny to Warframe, microtransactions or not (dont really care about them because im not being held at gunpoint to buy, and they give you Bright Engrams every “level” past 20 for free). Kinda like how i rank Grim Dawn and D3 above Path of Exile.

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Mr_Planthead

Part of me wants to get it, the other part of me is like you should get it. Then the other other part of me says I have 300 games on steam that I should probably try first :/

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sirsam

This is my biggest issue with the “game”.

There is 0 challenge. This is beyond hand-holding. This is teat suckling.

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Mewmew

My money was shot when this was about to come out, I had to get the base version :D I’ll have to get the Season Pass later for once. I didn’t much care for the few other options that came with the higher versions anyway other than the Season Pass.

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Bannex

No complaints so far. The game is extremely fun with what little I had a chance to play. I remember the legions of haters (I was one of them) when D1 was launched. I expect great things for this game especially if it loses a lot of players early and forces bungie to ‘taken king’ it.

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BalsBigBrother

There seems to be a shit storm brewing for the pc players of D2.

Reports are starting to appear of folks being banned for running discord, obs, xsplit and geforce experience overlays. There doesn’t seem to be any way to appeal or even speak with a bungie rep. Might be best to not use overlays of any sort until this gets sorted and it needs sorting urgently.

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/destiny2/comments/78jo4y/psa_avoid_getting_instantly_banned

https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/236531090?sort=0&page=0

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Mewmew

So obviously they’re going to overturn and fix the bans that the auto system gave out accidentally for normal programs and overlays people run.

Yes, they have their heads up their butts right now in their stubborn response that running these programs won’t result in a ban (the numbers of people being auto banned obviously show something wrong is happening), but once they admit something is wrong they’ll overturn those wrongly banned.

The game kicked me out once during the short time I played yesterday saying I needed to run it through the Battle.net launcher – which I *was* doing and don’t know any way of doing otherwise, the launcher was still there and all it wasn’t closed. I’ve been paranoid I’ll get an auto ban because it thinks I was running it another way, so far I haven’t but the detection systems don’t always work right.

If Bungie admitted there was a problem rather than issuing a reply saying using that stuff won’t result in a ban, there’d be less upset people.

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Hirku

Thanks for the heads-up. There was maybe a 0.001% of me buying this, but now I can shave that down to a nice, flat zero.

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velimirius

“It’s a glorious day for PC players…” line is something i didnt expect to see here, its usually reserved by other big pc gaming sites which go full wankfest when some bad ass publisher release an “AAA” wanna be title and they all get in line to get neck deep up their arse for free copy or whatever they get for juicy review.

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zeko_rena

I got bored within a week, have not turned on my Xbox for ages, kind of kicking myself for buying it now lol

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John Bagnoli

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. I just don’t know. Having put in a lot of hours on Destiny I just cannot get all that excited. I want to, but no. My Destiny 1 review sums up as thus:

Pros: Beautiful game and music. Shooting mechanics top-notch, smooth and fun
Cons: No story, characters and abilities bland, painfully easy

I don’t know about the rest of you, but if you are going to have me to repetitive stuff I kinda need something to hang my hat on. Notice I didn’t put that as a con, because many many… many games are repetitive. As fun as the shooting is it all becomes porridge and that flavoring of good looks and sound isn’t quite as tasty as you thought it was. And there is little challenge. Only when I got bored and played stupid or did the ultra hard stuff did my heart beat. And let me tell you, a four hour session is a long time to go on one heartbeat.

From what I’ve read/seen Destiny 2 is even easier, more bland character customization (in terms of abilities) and a shiite story. Basically throwing around some very blasé characters, still without explaining a lot of how this sci-fi universe operates and contradicting what was in the first game a little.

People have said there is nothing to do at end game which is mostly true as this is a gear chaser. And I took my sweet sweet time. I probably got a 70 hour single player-ish experience on my first run-through so I was paced not to burn out. But at the end you are just waiting for the next content drop.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

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Rees Racer

I wasn’t going to buy this after having a rather ‘meh’ experience in the beta, but quite a few in my large gaming community are playing, so I thought I’d have a go. I’m not nearly as good in the FPS genre as I have become in 3D dogfighting games with aircraft and spaceships, but I’ll make do in the PvE portions, regardless…and I’m having fun so far.

Now I’ve just to get out of the habit of checking every nook in the game for loot & chests to lockpick, and other RPG conventions. ;)

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Dug From The Earth

Love how their login queue screen is just

“Signing in”
With a little spinning animation.

No clue how long or what position you are in…. going on an hour now

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deekay_plus

ha we joked when we got put in queue that there was no queue number “servers are at capacity please wait for (something) in teh order you logged in” or something LOL

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CapnLan

I might have to check this out if it goes on sale this holiday season. Never played the first as I’m PC only, but it always looked somewhat interesting.

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Greaterdivinity

Apparently servers are…somewhat stable? Enjoy, ladies and gents. I’m stuck at work all day and then after-work shit so I can hopefully get at least a few hours in tonight. Would totally no-life it and just not sleep/possibly call in sick tomorrow but work obligations make that impossible : (

Curse you, adult life and the need to be responsible and shit. I JUST WANT TO SHOOT STUFF IN SPACE.

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A Dad Supreme

Wonder if this or PUBG will be chosen GOTY by bloggers and writers.

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Hirku

I’d be a little disappointed to see an early access title be GOTY, regardless of its quality.

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rafael12104

Very. It would open up the flood gates too.

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Hirku

Yeah, but let’s face it they’re pretty much wide open already with all the other industry BS going on.

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rafael12104

Heh. Given the recent reviews I’ve seen on youtube, I think it will be the latter. Although, I must say there are other games in the mix there too.

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A Dad Supreme

I know there are but it seems like all I’ve seen or heard about this year was Destiny 2 and PUBG, at least any game people said they were waiting for or enjoying on a large scale.

If you were to ask me to name five games that came out this year, I would be at a loss. The only one I can think of this minute is Battlefield because of the recent television ad blitz they’ve been doing recently.

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rafael12104

Ah, well. The difference could be genres. I can name 5, but I play consoles and single player games as well.

In terms of MMOs, as the term is used today, Lol, Yup. PUBG.

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Jack Pipsam

I’ll get it if my mates get it, otherwise eh.

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Devin Derrickson

View this thread again in a month.

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rafael12104

lol

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Arktouros

Both versions, however, will receive the same updates going forward

Well, till Sony pays them more money and locks off some expansion to be exclusive to PS4 for X amount of months.

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rafael12104

*shakes head*

It could happen…

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Estranged

:-(

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Indigo Salma

1 HOUR

2 MINUTES

57 SECONDS

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starbuck1771

48 minutes!

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rafael12104

Well, I tried to avoid the hype, but it has finally sunk in. I’m excited about this. Lol.

So, yup, I’ll in there as soon as my download is complete and the servers are up barring any snafus.

I think, and I am a card carrying member of the PC Master Race, this is where we will see PCs shine in comparison to consoles. Hey, I own consoles, but for this type of game, there is nothing better than the big clunky graphics bazooka that a PC can be.

My GTX 1080 is ready. Let’s go!

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Anthony Dixon

No recoil. Why would the master race not be able to handle a bit of recoil?

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Greaterdivinity

It’s a different recoil pattern. Mouse/keyboard has a more scattered/random bullet spread/recoil while gamepad (even on PC) gets a largely vertical spread/recoil.

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deekay_plus

honestly between watching estranged’s ps4 streams and playing on pc you couldn’t tell me this game has anything really called recoil

but then again when the word recoil is mentioned i get ptsd from half life 1’s firearms’ mod final changes. >< (pls halp).

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Greaterdivinity

I don’t disagree, but that’s more a gripe with modern shooters in general for me. The CoD-ification of gunplay continues to be a source of frustration for me.

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deekay_plus

eh started way before cod with cs if not others if not half life but FA recol was so insane you’d tap the fire click and pull your aim all the way to max upwards instantly, all in the name of realism.

but that mod fucked itself in more ways than that that gave way to cs from it previous popularity prior to those changes.

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Estranged

Unless PCMRs trigger on console exclusives.

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Sray

Been playing some Halo this past week, getting excited for this.

The nice thing for me is that the game was “free” because I was given codes when I got my new GPUs in August. So I haven’t dropped a dime on this yet. If it sucks, I’m not financially invested, and if it’s good then I got a deal.

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rafael12104

Nice!!

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OneEyeRed

They left aim-assist in game for controller support. Bad decision bad, bad, bad. Its a solid console port they can keep it…

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rafael12104

Who cares? No really, I’m asking, why does it matter? Won’t affect me, or will it?

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Indigo Salma

Everyone that likes to play PVP …
Oh its so amazing how you get so many head shots with your skills…
Oh wait there’s a tiny helper which does that which involves no skill what so ever.
So that’s like legalizing a hack that targets the head all the time.

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rafael12104

Ah, I see. Well, I will pvp. I feel pretty good about my skills with a keyboard and mouse, but… we will see. Thank you for the explanation.

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Estranged

It doesn’t attack the head all the time.

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Angel of Def

if you pvp yes, if you don’t no. In beta the aim assist was horrible. People were abusing it like crazy, going 40-4 etc then coming on here and claiming its just because they are better with a controller..

so I tried it out and sure enough, you put the reticle anywhere near the head and it drags it right to the face. If you don’t mess with the aim stick you basically can run around slide head-shotting its lame. The fact that a lot of people try to justify it because they want easy kills makes it even more gross.

what pisses most pvp’rs off is the fact its an easy fix. Allow it in PVE, and not in PVP. Most of us would be fine with that..

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rafael12104

Kk. Thanks for the details. I’ll be watching out for it. Hmm… why wouldn’t they fix it, I wonder.

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Sray

So we’re upset and calling this a disaster because this admittedly largr issue that was in the beta six weeks ago might -I repeat might- still be in the game now? If it’s as bad as people claim, I suspect the PC client will probably disable aim-assist when the mouse and keyboard are being used.

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Angel of Def

the only person making this a disaster is you big guy, calm down Mr./Mrs. Controller user… someone asked why pvp’rs had a problem with it and I explained.

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Sray

I’m not a contoller user, nor making an issue of it: I asked what the problem was from someone who’d made an overly dramatic statement. And since no one is actually playing the PC client yet, we have no idea if this issue still exists.

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Angel of Def

now you are the victim LOL. /smh

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rafael12104

We will see. Yup.

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OneEyeRed

As Angel and Indigo states, there is no MIGHT. It is in game and intended to be there despite the massive complaints from the PC market. If you are a regular MP FPS gamer in PvP you would fully understand. It does not belong in the PC version and the community is really upset about it. Many people cancelled pre-orders due to it. Just look at their forum boards.

They could disable it for PvP mode as Angel stated and that would resolve the whole issue. However, they won’t do that and in a game focused heavily on PvP and PvP rewards, its a disaster.

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Indigo Salma

There is no MIGHT be in the game now. It IS in the game…
And there is a workaround using a wireless controller and a USB stick enabling both keyboard and mouse as well as a controller.

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rafael12104

Or use a controller to PvP and mouse and keyboard for PvE. I have a wired Xbox controller for the PC that is awesome sauce for this type of thing.

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Angel of Def

so I don’t think you understand the problem… the problem is with a mouse, using a very easy work around you get the controller aim assist with the mouse ability to snap target at same time. Even aim assist on a controller to try and “even” the playing field on a device that is Keyboard and Mouse oriented is stupid. There are devices for people who use and want to play with other users w/ aim assist and controllers, they are called consoles and single player games.

It’s like using a corked bat in Baseball, but they ok’d it because some of the players can’t hit as hard as the rest. It’s for lames who want an advantage in pvp. You can tell which lames I speak of by how they defend it.

PVE there is no problem with aim assist. No one cares.

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Sray

What’s wrong with leaving in aim assist for players who use controllers?

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Dantos

I guess there are ways you can trick the game into thinking you are using a controller, while still using a mouse and keyboard.

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thirtymil

In the beta (AKA ‘time-limited demo’) people were complaining that it was ruining the balance in PvP by making it too easy with some weapons.

I don’t PvP though, so to me it makes sense for PvE.

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Mattaui

I ejoyed the first one enough on my ps4, though PC is definitely my platform of choice. Going to be giving this a try and I hope it does well. Curious to see if being part of the overall Blizzard economy will have much of an impact.

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FG3000

As a PC gamer who never played Destiny 1, I’m pretty excited based off what I read as “negatives” from console players.

Based off what I read console players are upset that after 60 or so hours you can have max gear and basically beat the game till the next expansion. I’m not sure why games need to have never ending grinds these days but I’m totally fine with putting Desinty 2 down and playing something else inbetween udpates.

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kgptzac

As a PC gamer who never played Destiny 1

Not sure if you did but you should have already tried Warframe. ;)

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deekay_plus

i’ve tried warframe. i’ve enjoyed destiny 2 better so far (tho fuck platforming)

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60 hours to get max gear…

whatever, no way

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BalsBigBrother

I wonder how well the Blizzard infrastructure will cope with the influx that is less than two hours away now?

I am not sure how Destiny 2 uses said infrastructure beyond the shop / initial start up still it will be interesting to watch from my point of view on the outside but probably not so great if it does creak in anyway or gives log in issues for those wanting to play.

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thirtymil

The main problem for Blizzard is likely to be the login servers – they showed a few signs of creaking when Overwatch became popular, and I found I had to queue to log in to a low-pop Warcraft realm on a few occasions.

I don’t know whether it’s Blizzard, Bungie or someone else hosting the actual game servers though.

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Aymiia Darell

What sort of game is it? I don’t keep up with all the different genres like I used to.

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Dantos

warframe mixed with boarderlands loot and haloish combat….maybe?

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Armsbend

It’s Warframe with a bigger developer.

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deekay_plus

it’s a pseudo mmo rpg shooter from the makers of halo.

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rogbarz

I will wait for Destiny 3 Rise of the Microtransaction

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A Dad Supreme

That’s already out. It’s called Destiny 2.

You haven’t been following the increase in micro-transactions between 1 and 2?

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Estranged

Considering the cash shop has nothing that influences power during actual game play. You might receive a very minor random modification that drops like snow during a Xmas movie with regular game play.

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rafael12104

LOL!

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lol yup

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Makhiel

Getting ready for launch. Meanwhile console players are complaining there’s already nothing to do at end game. :)

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Estranged

This console player is still working on content.

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deekay_plus

sounds like a typical mmo after 3-6 weeks then? XD

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Devin Derrickson

What you will learn is that after a certain light level, there is not “loot specific” reason to play.

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deekay_plus

i saw an avatar selfie this past weekend of someone without a hat on, begging the question: can you turn off hats? and is there actual avatar creation like a typical rpg/mmo?

i mean will find out first hand in 2 hours but would help with the anticipation know ahead of time :D

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Estranged

yes, you can turn off hats in social areas

yes, there is an avatar creator and I got to keep my avatars from Destiny 1

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deekay_plus

only in social hub? :( QQ

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Estranged

You don’t see 3rd person much. I must experiment now.

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venatis

You can turn helmets off in options. There is character creation but I think it sucks, so you might actually prefer wearing the helmet. It’s very basic, a few face options, a few hair options, and some face paint/tattoos/scars. Exo’s look the best IMO.

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Estranged

Yeah, but on console, helmets can only be hidden in social areas. Confirmed.

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rogbarz

I wonder if Destiny 2 will impact the call of duty sales as they are barely launching a week from each-other as both are attractive games but have a price tag of course not everyone can afford both always.

Anyway I hope those who bought it will enjoy the game, personally it was not for me. I don’t feel really connected to the whole destiny franchise and world.

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Anthony Dixon

Nah, CoD has sold way more on console than PC for years, there’s been enough of a gap between D2s console launch and CoD: WWII for it not to matter.

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BalsBigBrother

I tried the WW2 open beta for the multiplayer what was it a couple or three weeks ago. While it is very slick, well presented and ran very well on my old ish machine its just not for me personally. Too twitch based and limited at least from what they showed in the test.

I might pick it up once it starts to get discounted for the single player part because the presentation is superb but I don’t personally see myself getting into the multiplayer at all.

I could probably say the same for Destiny 2 now that I think about it :-)

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