The Daily Grind: What would surprise you from BlizzCon?

There’s a difference between predictions and hopes. Predictions are what you think is actually going to be there. Hopes are what you’d like to be there. So I have my predictions about this year’s BlizzCon, and you’ll all get your chances to publicly share your own in the near future. But that’s not the same as what you hope for, and perhaps more importantly, that’s not the same as what would surprise you.

Case in point: No new World of Warcraft expansion would surprise me. Heck, anything other than a standard boxed expansion would surprise me. It’s not outside of the realm of possibility, but it’s certainly unexpected.

So today, let’s talk about surprises. What would surprise you from BlizzCon? A new game being revealed? New modes for Overwatch or Heroes of the Storm? No expansion for Hearthstone? What sort of things wouldn’t be on your prediction list but would definitely throw you fora loop while still feeling remotely plausible?

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Tiresias

A brand-new IP, regardless of game type or genre.

Blizzard creates fantastic IPs, but far too slowly.

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bereman99

Genuine surprise – WoW adopting a F2P model.

I’m sure it will happen eventually, especially now that Blizzard has some experience with the F2P approach, but announcing it at *this* Blizzcon would be a genuine surprise to me.

Things like World of Starcraft/Diablo just don’t feel like they are plausible, especially after what they went through with Titan’s development, nor does a single player PvE campaign in Overwatch.

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Robert Mann

The only thing I want remains a mass apology for the times they have treated their customers with something beyond a lack of respect. I am more than happy to support people liking their games (and potentially consider the games again pending that first thing happening.)

That would surprise me a crud-ton, since Blizzard’s attitude is generally “We are right. Nothing else to see or say, and no amount of evidence changes that.”

I keep hoping that they will admit they did some things that seriously wronged customers, but they are far from alone. My list of companies I will simply not do business with has grown a lot in the last ten years, sad to say.

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koolthulu

Overwatch single-player RPG.

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Serrenity

A single player WoW game in the spirit of Fallout 4 / Skyrim that falls within the existing story-arc and doesn’t require any retconning.

Persistent Player Housing in WoW

Rebranding from an MMO to a virtual world

WoW-themed Shake-n-Bake

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Chris Brown-DeMoreno

A new MMO (unlikely)
Diablo 4 (even less likely)

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Skardon

A brand new MMO with a brand new IP that’s been in secret development and is coming out next month.

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Roger Edwards

A Sigue Sigue Sputnik tribute act.

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budtoker420

The announcement of Vanilla servers.

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Slaasher

Is there any room for surprises in their schedule?

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hamadubai

They’re developing a Joe Camel game for the sega saturn. that would be a huge surprise.

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rafael12104

The announcement of a new MMORPG, “Titan Reborn”.

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Rumm

WoW 2.

Really not sure – they could come with something out of left field, a completely new project. Not really sure what else they have in store for this Blizzcon other than a WoW expansion. Blizzard hasn’t made a single player game in over a decade, and a new IP could really revitalize them moving into the future. I personally don’t see Warcraft 4, considering the WoW story is already far past the end point of Warcraft 3.

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Armsbend

No big company is ever going to make a single player game again. EA just canceled a big one in Star Wars. Publishers are not interested in a $60 one off any longer.

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Robert Mann

Maybe not U.S. and Korean developers… excepting a handful of die-hards, but elsewhere there are plenty of big developers that continue to produce solid single player games that sell like hotcakes. Any publisher that isn’t dumb will look at the profit, should such a game be available, and gladly put it forth.

That isn’t to say that the interests of most of the bigs here is micro-scams. It’s just that most publishers aren’t going to turn down a really good game simply because it lacks that, given the chance to make a bunch of money.

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Schmidt.Capela

Best selling console games in 2017 to date, according to Amazon:
(Compiled by going through the list of best sellers in the video-games category and picking only the games.)

1. Super Mario Odyssey. Offline, single-player game.
2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Does have online, but is often used offline.
3. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Offline, single-player game.
4. Horizon Zero Dawn. Offline, single-player game.
5. Splatoon 2. It’s the first online-focused game in the list.
6. Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5+2.5 Remix. Offline, single-player game.
7. Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy. Offline, single-player game.
8. Grand Theft Auto V. I wouldn’t call it focused on online, but many people purchase it for the online play.
9. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy. Offline, single-player game.
10. Resident Evil 7. Offline, single-player game.

I would say offline, single-player gaming is alive and well.

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thirtymil

I think it is doing well in terms of sales, but not in terms of company long-term profits. Until they can shoehorn lockboxes into single-player games (oh, wait… ) companies are going to see online with DLC/microtransactions as the games that keep the lights on while they churn out the next iteration in the franchise.

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Malcolm Swoboda

And we can safely ignore most of those games because *see above at fantastic SP titles*.

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Sorrior Draconus

Japanese ones still do/will

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Armsbend

I don’t really consider any Japanese publishers to be really big any longer.

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Chris Brown-DeMoreno

I guess you’re forgetting that Sony is actually a Japanese company? Nintendo is another obvious one. Namco-Bandai is still floating around out there too. All of these are major publishers with a good number of single player games out recently or in development.

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Sorrior Draconus

Nintendo and SE still are rest i sadly agree with you on..Some GREAT games coming out buuut yeah overall agreed though the second rise of japanese devs may be coming too

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Dug From The Earth

Any announcement about a Diablo 3 expansion, or the next Diablo game.

Announcing that they have a new mmorpg in the works

Announcing that they have a new skyrim-esq style game in the works (set in any of their universes)

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Little Bugbear

Blizzard making Another MMO. That would surprises me. That said, I think this will be a good BlizzCon for WoW.

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qweazdak

For surprises, after reading some of these earlier comments, I think WoW being free would be a huge surprise. I know they’ve been giving away the game for a while now hoping that it will drive up subscribers but maybe they’re going the micro-transaction and premium player model. Out of all the IP’s that Blizzard has, I think Diablo is in the worst state so any plans for that will be a surprise. Diablo 4? Diablo 2 remake? Diablo team to a brand new ARPG? I have no idea what will be up their sleeves.

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Brother Maynard

Four days of nothing but Never gonna give you up, never gonna… on a loop.

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TomTurtle

A classic WoW server. Either Blizzard’s version of “classic” or what many players have actually wanted. Now that’d surprise me.

Also, new IP.

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Malcolm Swoboda

“Either Blizzard’s version of “classic” or what many players have actually wanted” Confirmed now, and I’ll take both.

I only wish they made main WoW Lv 1-60+ F2P.

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zoward

The announcement of World of Warcraft II.

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Oleg Chebeneev

Im pretty sure it will never happen

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zoward

A lesser surprise (that would delight me to no end) would be a crafting overhaul. it’s almost as unexpected as the former, though.

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Red Galaxie

World of StarCraft!

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starbuck1771

or World of Diablo

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Oleg Chebeneev

Legacy servers announcement.
WoW going F2P.
New game with new IP from Blizzard.

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Jeff

The Diablo MMO Actual Housing in WoW a refit of the old world in WoW.

But it will be about what it’s been about for the past two years E sports, I think this will also be the year when the faithful Diablo/wow players say never again to Blizzcon

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Dreema

I’ll be pleasantly surprised if they launch a classic server.

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Utakata

If the sub race thing with WoW is an actual thing.

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Serrenity

I’ve got my wallet ready if they have void elves for the Alliance. My mains on the Horde will cut and run so fast …

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Utakata

I guess I should qualify why I would be surprised to this announced. As some of the suggested sub races would need to have female counter parts, while other art assets would have to be tweeked. Blizz really doesn’t like to touch their active art assets when it’s live. As they are very slow to move out any updates…and they would likely have to apply a lot of updating if they where to pull this off seamlessly.

As well, it would make their Character Creators far more complicated. Which is great for the players…not so great for them, when they’ve had one of the most minimalist CC’s going. So this may bring drastic changes for them they really want to avoid dealing with.

…so yeah, I would really be taken back if they planned to do this with the next WoW expansion. And assuming this initiative doesn’t go the way of their dance studios if they do. :(

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Open_Mind66

This would not just surprise me; it would amaze me if they admitted that the last ten years of development on WOW had been a terrible mistake not only for community cohesion but also a failure in creating a lasting and meaningful game-play experience. Therefore they will be turning back all current servers to the TBC expansion/ ruleset.
If Blizzard ever did this can you imagine the forum drama.

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Slaasher

LOL. It would surprise me too seeing that WOW is the most successful MMO of all time and one of the most successful games ever. I just cant see them admitting that “the last ten years of WOW had been a terrible mistake…”
That was one profitable mistake.

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Armsbend

Reading through all of these they all sound more like wishlists (including my own earlier post).

What we will probably here that we aren’t expecting
COD – Destiny – Overwatch crossover
Lockbox expansion across all games
Subscription tiers in WoW/experience boost cash shop items

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Utakata

They got ’em in WoW already. My Rogue opened a bunch the other day… >.>

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starbuck1771

I think Arms means the kind you have to buy in the store not loot drops that require a rogue to open.

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Utakata

And I am just saying the lockbox mechanic has been in WoW since its release. As I always joke that we have an actual class that can open them. :)

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Armsbend

Only been playing 2 months – still learning :O

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Serrenity

Back when rogue felt thematically different than “melee psycho-path with dual wielded murder sticks,” there were tons of chests throughout the world that not only required a rogue to unlock, but a rogue with sufficient lockpicking skill to unlock. And mobs used to drop Lockboxes (maybe still do?) that required a rogue to unlock to get at the questionable goodies on the inside.

Oooh and don’t forget when poisons used to be things in your backpack that you had to actually apply, stealth was way slower than regular walking, and you were worth your weight in gold for crowd control cause you could stealth up, stun a mob, and burst out against the others. After the tank had aggro.

/end-rose-tinted-yearning

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Utakata

Just a note of clarification or two…

1) Lockboxes still drop WoW, even in Legion. Rogues are still the only class with the ability to open them.

2) Poisons are still used if you roll an Assassination Rogue. You just don’t need the reagents to apply them anymore, as that mechanic went the way of having to carry ammo.

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Serrenity

Thanks Uta – I wasn’t sure if the lockboxes still dropped or not … or if they were just the realm of pick-pocketing.

and yeah, I know poisons are still a thing, I just miss the days when you had to remember to bring poisons – and it was a hassle to leave dungeon to go get them and come back. I can’t say why necessarily, other than it gave me a feeling of authenticity.

I don’t think they way they do them hurts the game, but it does make me struggle with the immurssion a bit more :-)

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Utakata

I think it’s more likely to do with DPS becoming more competitive with meters and such that had a big influencing on streamlining out the “immersion” touch. It’s now all wham, bam and thanks man…for better or worse. o.O

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Makhiel

WarCraft 4.

Or a new game mode added to Hearthstone (not saying it needs one but it would surprise me).

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Doctor Sweers

WarCraft 4!

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Coolit

Development stopped on WoW and WoW 2.0 announced.

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CMDR Crow

I have a pet theory that they’ll discontinue active development for WoW at the same time as they add “classic” and “legacy” servers. They’ll transition from a singular live game to a buffet-style pick-your-xpac service. It works so well in so many ways to monitize the twilight of WoW.

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Doctor Sweers

That has to happen sometime, right? One of these days…

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Sray

Announcing that they’re removing lootboxes from their games.

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Reht

Classic WoW servers and anything D3 related.

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borghive

Total world revamp for Warcraft. Also, maybe some new systems to combat the huge amount of toxicity that is present in Overwatch.

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chriskovo .

They are shutting down Hearts of the storm since no one is playing it. Even after they gave out 20 heros for free to everyone :P

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rondstat

I could see this happening. I’ve never heard of anyone playing Hearts of the storm.

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Slaasher

Correction. Lots of people play it. In fact, its widely seen as the third most popular MOBA out there. Also the prize pool for the HGC finals totals $1 million dollars… again this year.
No one throws millions after a dead horse.

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Armsbend

Tons of people play it. Comfortably the third most popular MOBA. It gets tons of support from Blizzard.

Sorry ;_;

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Slaasher

Sorry I typed my response before I saw yours, so…..ditto!

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Armsbend

People are so beside themselves at Blizzards first perceived failure – even though it wasn’t. being third in a multi-billion dollar genre isn’t a bad place to be.

That and the company that allowed MOBAs to exist in the first place would be nuts to just sit on the sidelines and let things happen. You’ve got to get in the game if you ever want to make a move at the crown that LoL holds.

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Schmidt.Capela

AFAIK it’s seen as a failure because Blizzard was confident it would steal the top spot, so failing to reach that is seen as a failure.

It isn’t doing half bad, though, and if I was actually into MOBAs it’s likely the one I would play.

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Armsbend

I never read Blizzard thought they would knock off LoL. Did they hope it would? Sure, but that is a tough task.

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Slaasher

Seen as a failure by whom?

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Doctor Sweers

Eh? The game isn’t bad at all. I see people playing this quite often.

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Minimalistway

Heroes you mean? people play it, just searching Twitch now, so many live streaming the game.

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starbuck1771

That Blizzard has taken over development of Destiny 2 because Bungie is doing a piss poor job. After all any complaints about Bungie even through the BBB have been told to go through Activision/Blizzard since 2015.

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Arktouros

Anything Diablo related.

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Polyanna

Titan: Coming Fall 2018.

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starbuck1771

Titan was the code name for Overwatch.

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Harry Koala

That’s why it would be surprising…

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Ittybumpkin

No it was not. Titan was canceled and many of the developers from it were moved to the Overwatch team.

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Loopy

Which also includes many elements and concepts that are now part of Overwatch. So i’d like to think that parts of Titan will live within Overwatch forever (aka until the game dies).

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Polyanna

Diablo IV.

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thirtymil

Player housing in Warcraft. A shift away from raid-focused endgame. Anything not multiplayer.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

Considering the direction Legion took the game, this would be helluva surprise. It would not surprise me to learn the next expansion is nothing but dungeons and raids. Hog heaven for some, the pits for others.

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TheDonDude

Player housing makes so much sense for WoW. Maybe merge it with the expected/rumoured/wished upcoming boats.

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Hirku

A shift away from raid-focused endgame.

Specifically that they fix the messed-up leveling and difficulty so the old content can be challenging and fun rather than skipped.

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Skai R

I single player game like skyrim or fallout.

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Hirku

That would be a very pleasant surprise.

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Minimalistway

Ooh .. i would love that.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

Think about that for a moment. Blizzard attempted an ARPG with D3 and couldn’t deliver. It squeezes past the RPG meter simply because of its name. If this game were entitled GRifting, nobody would consider it an ARPG.

Blizzard doesn’t have the chops to develop a deep, complex game.

So, yeah. This would be a total surprise. Sort of like your local muffler shop baking cookies.

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Bryan Turner

A Diablo announcement.

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MesaSage

Looking forward to the Titan announcement.

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Danny Smith

I don’t really follow blizzcon anymore since Overwatch is the only game they make i still play but Diablo 4 would be a welcome surprise. 3 has been in seasonal purgatory for what feels like years.

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Armsbend

Boats/naval combat in WoW
Single player Campaign in Overwatch
Diablo 4 annoucement
A new IP

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verhaa

Them actually caring about Diablo would actually surprise me.

Ya I know, Diablo isn’t even part of Blizzcon this year so no chance of me being surprised I guess lol

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Minimalistway

Old but someone will say it .. so let me get it out of the way: classic WoW servers from Blizzard.

Diablo expansion too.

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Wolfyseyes

An Overwatch PvE MMO. So I don’t expect to be surprised. :3

I’M TROLLING MOM! LOOKIT ME! AM I DOING IT RIGHT?

….sorry I’m in a weird mood today y’all.

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Utakata

There’s trolling…and there’s wishful thinking. <3

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BalsBigBrother

I would be surprised if it had anything that made me excited about a Blizzard game.

At this point the only one I play is Overwatch but it’s not a game I actively follow in terms of updates and just jump in when I fancy playing. Gave up on Diablo 3 a while back.

Not hating on Blizzard but they have nothing that interests me at this point in time that I don’t already have better option for elsewhere that better fit my preferences.

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Loopy

I’m still of the opinion that Blizzard does make quality fun games. I can remembering having a good time in every single game they’ve published. Unfortunately, Overwatch is currently the only game i continue playing, for whatever reason. So, for me, as long as it’s not same old same old, i’ll probably be excited for it.

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Pandalulz

They make great games, if you really enjoy online multi-player. That’s where they’ve lost me over the years as I’ve lost more and more interest in that type of experience.

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Ashfyn Ninegold

Well said. They even made their single player jewel, Diablo, into a “multiplayer” game, much to the dismay of its fanbase.

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Armsbend

No one is making them any longer.

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Schmidt.Capela

Lots of companies are making them. Quite a few very good single-player games released this year. Heck, EA itself bowed down to player pressure and after making the previous Need for Speed online-only is making the new one entirely playable offline.

Personally, I tend to only purchase a game with a single-player mode if that mode can be played entirely offline. and there are quite a few genres where I’m only willing to pay anything for a game if it has a single-player campaign (which is why I haven’t purchased Overwatch, for example, I refuse to pay anything for a FPS game that doesn’t have an offline single-player mode).

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