Destiny 2 stream is canceled in the wake of player rage as a free trial surfaces

So, let’s recap the Destiny 2 saga. First, there was a leveling scaling problem wherein players discovered that the game was now slowing leveling speed while claiming that it was working normally. “Whoops,” said the development team, “let’s fix that by also doubling the experience needed for each level.” Superb! So it is perhaps a good thing that the third scheduled Curse of Osiris livestream was canceled, replaced with a promise of addressing these points of community outrage and other issues with the game’s endgame mechanics and so forth.

Seriously, you should have stuck with the loot caves, guys.

Given all of this information about how everything is nice and peachy over in Destiny 2 land (which is technically just Earth), don’t you want to give the game a chance to suck you in? Perhaps you still do because lots of people are still having fun with it! And you can jump in on the new free trial and see if you’ll have fun with it as well. Just, you know, mind the warning signs. They’re there to warn you.

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K38FishTacos
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K38FishTacos

D2 = the sex is ok but there’s nothing to talk about in between

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Robert Mann

Wait, you mean Destiny 2 continues to have problems? There’s poor communication and response? You don’t say….

*Sorry, but there’s some history here that makes me wonder exactly what people expected.*

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Jeff

I don’t want to get into the whole Bungie kerfuffle, but players should be aware that there is serious considerations of limiting player dev communication even further.

I know of at least 2 mmo developers that are seriously looking to close their forums and to start disabling comments of their social media outlets……I know that there is a lot of underhanded practices in game development, but I don’t see constant hate and the occasional death threat doing anything but making developers think that all gamers are sociopaths.

I would hate to lose things like forums, Facebook comments and twitch chats.

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Alex Hyer

I wonder what shit Bungie is doing that they HAVEN’T been caught for yet.

“Oh you caught us! We’re sorry (now)!”

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McGuffn

was this the stream that was going to address lots of the longstanding complaints or was it another promo of the new content?

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freyr_prime

It was a promo for their new expansion. It was cancelled in favor of a blog post to address the longstanding complaints (maybe).

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freyr_prime

As a day 1 Destiny player.. They lost me.

I finally gave Warframe a try and it’s safe to say that it would take a truly herculean effort for Bungie to win me back.

It’s kind of hilarious honestly. I dismissed Warframe completely out of hand back in 2013. I disliked basically everything I saw, and promptly forgot about it.

Wish I hadn’t! I could’ve had an Excalibur Prime >.<

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Darthbawl

:P

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Tiresias

Maybe it’s just me and my specific lack of need for “progression”, but I’m enjoying Destiny 2 for much the same reasons that I enjoy Guild Wars 2: once at the level cap you quickly get to the point of being able to handle all of the game’s content with no need to grind out power and can just focus on enjoying yourself.

This means that with my relatively limited playtime I was able to get all three classes through the story (which is thankfully short since completion is required to open up the game world) and to the appropriate power level to participate in any activity including raids and PvP.

Now I get to just sit back and enjoy the game! The moment-to-moment gameplay is fantastic, just like Destiny 1 but now I have a mouse, keyboard, and 60FPS to enjoy it with.

Don’t get me wrong — the game definitely has issues. Grinding for armor sets via tokens that award random drops is a terrible system that needs to be changed. The Iron Banner PvP event was rather boring; it was nothing more than a simple team deathmatch with no other changes. Hunters need a little more group utility to make them compelling to bring to raids and Trials of the Nine. The list goes on.

But from a core standpoint, if Bungie would just stop stepping on their own toes with stupid stuff like the endgame XP system and stingy token rewards from common activities the game would be perfect for someone like me.

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Nathan Aldana

Tbh thats exactly why I have no interest in destiny. sure, at cap you quickly gear to the point you can do whatever..but theres also no way to progress ever again without raiding so you might as well put the game down and go play something else at that point.

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ihatevnecks

Raiding isn’t at all needed for progression; aside from maybe the raid rocket launcher, it doesn’t even have the best weapon drops. You can get to 305 light by doing the same stuff that got you to 290, 280, etc; weekly powerful engrams, public events, and strikes or pvp if you’re really bored and want variety.

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Yuri Geinish

Levelled a few characters, got something like 295 gear. Took me two weeks. I didn’t log in since then, and almost forgot Destiny 2 existed. They have a long way to catch up with Warframe’s mechanics and diversity.

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Nick

haha totally. Every time I see Destiny 2 catching crap it just makes me think about Warframe.

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freyr_prime

The best part of this whole debacle is it finally got me to try Warframe. Think I found my new home for a bit.

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Boom

Sadly the offer of a free trial still does nothing to sway me & the constant niggles dont fill me with hope. Ive heard its good fun with friends (woe is me) but that after the campaign its just mind numbingly dull & repetitive.

Flashy Borderlands no thanks

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Space Captain Zor

WTB Borderlands 3, c’mon Randy!!!

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Nathan Aldana

tbh the awful mess that randy Pitchford has revealed himself to be in recent years I cant say I’d be motivated to buy anything with gearbox on it.

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Danny Smith

Bungie has shit the bed on this one but its pretty deserved. They have meticulously designed the entire game around a cash shop.
Want the rarest quality mounts and ships you got as marks of pride from raids in D1? CASH SHOP
Want the cool looking ghosts and shaders you used to get from doing well in activities like world events and pvp? CASH SHOP
Remember post cap leveling gave you motes of light you traded for player power increasing items? gone. Now you get bright engrams containing all of the above. where do you open them? CASH SHOP
Oh no wise consumer, we added a hard ten engram inventory limit and yours has bright engrams taking up slots! want to get the player power hard gear upgrade engrams out of the mailbox? well you gotta make room. Where? CASH SHOP
Oh no, we intentionally altered the UI so you didn’t know we were throttling your xp gains. Pretty tedious timewastes amirite? well you know how you can circumvent this?
CAASSSSSHHH SHHOOOPPPP

I logged in today and it gave a message saying “Season 1 ends now!” and was it talking about new events, new strikes or having to get certain weapons?
NO ITS TELLING YOU TO BUY THE ‘SPICY RAMEN’ EMOTE FROM THE FUCKING CASH SHOP BEFORE ITS GONE.

There is a fun game hidden in there somwhere but even with the games myraid flaws as a shooter even that is buried under a game that seems to be Peak Acitivision and designed as a vector for “micropay freebuys” first and a videogame second.

So yeah no shit they had to cancel the stream to shill its paid content update, back in D1 they said eververse existed to fund events which dont seem to be a thing in D1.

Honestly at this point i dont think they could poison the brand anymore and if they can’t pull another taken king out their ass and tone back the REMEMBER THE CASH SHOP WISE CONSUMER?!? constant in your face shilling then maybe we will see a Destiny 3. Maybe.

But D2 was already the make or break ‘fool me twice’ scenario for what fanbase stuck with it through D1 and this is such a clear case of corporate greed taking charge over ‘is this fun?’ design and its crossed that line into gross and obnoxious that is killing this games player retention rate.

I am prepared for a “we hear you, we are listening and promise to do better” typical modern industry “we dont care because whales cover all you fucks leaving” response but we will see.

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Denice J. Cook

I think it’s more like, “We already got your sixty bucks + at launch; if you’re not planning on spending more in the cash shop, please exit to alleviate lag because we’re too cheap to invest in dedicated servers.” :)

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rafael12104

LOL! My first chuckle of the day. Thank you.

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David Blair

So…. would you say you got your 60 dollars worth out of it before hitting the rot?

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Danny Smith

Good lord no. The Cash Shop pushing starts midway and just gets more aggressive as the story content dries up.

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Soy

What do you feel the cash shop has that you need to enjoy the game? Just curious.

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Danny Smith

Nothing and thats part of the problem. The issue is its designed to be the focus of gameplay. Everything else is now tokens for a chance at an rng drop every 30 tokens instead of straight gear drops. Things that in D1 were prestige rewards for completing things like raids are now cash shop exclusive. Leveling past cap used to give in game rewards with ingame uses, now its just a free trip to the cash shop.
The issue is both ‘why remove all the rewards from content and put them in the cash shop’ and ‘why is there nothing to replace them beyond make a visit to the cash shop?’

Because if you don’t buy lockboxes the cash shop pushing is invasive at best and at worst leaves you standing around going “is there any rewards OUTSIDE the cash shop?”

Basically imagine if WoW 2 came out tomorrow and all the raid mounts were blizzard store exclusive and instead of loot drops you got those extra chance coins instead, but it was 30 coins per roll instead of 1. extrapolate from there.

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pepperzine

It’s funny. There was so much hype around this game when it launched, and controversies aside, that hype diminished and turned into pretty much the same complaints that existed around the first Destiny.

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ting

Game was too short and designed as a quick money grab with absolutely no end-game progression. Paid $60 for the game and a month later they want more for end-game content I feel I already paid for. Me and my friends are out.

I feel like the kids who want to shell out more money for this game are just using WOW tokens with their millions of WOW gold at this point.

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Space Captain Zor

Ooh that’s a good idea to get the DLC with Tokens, didn’t think about that. I’ll wait till the season pass drops to like $15 and then get it lol. It’s so not worth $35 right now after already dropping $40 for the shell of the base game.

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Troy Leatherman

WoW tokens are the only reason I got the game. I had no plans of playing it after playing D1.

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deekay_plus

the double exp rate thing doesn’t bother me too much. it’s probably just the optics of the whole thing that annoy me if anything.

me and my usual play partner are on the fence if we will pick up the first dlc or not, as press previews mark it as “underwhelming” and the weekly slog through power level progression is becoming more than a bit of a chore, though generally speaking the gameplay itself does feel pretty good. but i don’t think i cba to do 6+ crucible matches a week for much longer if at all anymore.

this past year we’ve played coop shooters that offered more content than we could digest such as ghost recon wildlands for this price, so this is a bit of a tick or two below that all things considered.

also the cut scenes are way too long in the campaign imo and i’m not sure i wanna slog through more campaign in the upcoming dlc for that reason alone if not the shitty platforming they seem to love injecting into them so much as well.

K38FishTacos
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K38FishTacos

WTF is optics?

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deekay_plus

how a thing looks to interested parties.

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Space Captain Zor

If they drop the price on the season pass by half then it might be worth it. But at the current price and so soon after release is such bs.

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BalsBigBrother

Cool when I find the time I will probably give the trial a whirl. I like a good sci fi shooter.

Whatever else the devs have done I haven’t seen many complaints about the shooting part of the game or story so I will enjoy what I can. Hope I get to enjoy some Cayde banter too

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CasualSlacks

Been playing it for almost a week, but the game doesn’t hold much back. Shooting in the game definitely feels good; it’s a pleasure to kill thousands of enemies. In fact shooting is all I want to do, never mind the leveling and gearing up; just give me targets. Beyond that, the main story is typical silent protagonist saves the world stuff. The missions are fighting through a map/hold a position, kill a bunch of bad guys and don’t die. There’s a formidable variety of enemies. I do find that it is easy to get lost in some places as game is inconsistent about holding your hand. Sometimes, you just have to figure out where to go, who to talk to, or what to shoot. This isn’t bad by itself, but sometimes you don’t know where to go because you just don’t see the particular tunnel you have to run through which is kind of frustrating. PVP instanced fighting in Crucible is unbalanced in that you’re not matched against or with players of similar gear score or level. However, there ain’t no law against killing guys that double your gear score and, so long as the other team isn’t coordinated, matches are not ridiculously lopsided. I assume that the game is best played with buddies, but when isn’t that true? The most enjoyment I get out of the game is from open-world content with randoms and PVP. All the open world missions are repeatable and the only real reason to play through the story is to unlock maps to find new adventures (missions) and scheduled events to play through.

In short, if you’re looking for an open-world shooting gallery to share with friends or randoms, Destiny will be enjoyable. If you’re looking for RPG depth in character progression and storytelling; MMORPG levels of customization and same-server interactions; or dedicated, competitive FPS game balance you won’t find very much or any of that in Destiny 2. It’s Borderlands on smaller maps with PVP, better shooting, vehicle handling, public missions, graphics, and music.

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Danny Smith

The story is again barely existent. You lose your powers from D1, leave your home and get them back a mission later. Then a guy you see in 3 cutscenes before the end pontificates in a room using the whole checklist of lazy badguy madlibs including such hits as “we are not so different, you and i”. This is the ‘ultimate, unstoppable warrior’ of the story who ends the game as a bullet sponge fight right out of a PS2 era game. In between there are missions where 90% of it can simply be walked around and every so often the story gives you a free lockbox engram. Takes around 7 hours tops and thats about it.
Nice at face value but wide as the ocean, deep as a puddle.

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pepperzine

I’ve seen many complaints about the story, just check Facebook posts regarding it. They are mostly about its length and how it comes off as really generic. Mind you I haven’t played through it, as after Destiny 1 there was no way I was giving them money for the sequel. The story in the first one though was extremely mediocre, so to me, I tend to believe the complaints about Destiny 2’s story.

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BalsBigBrother

Given I am only going to be playing a trial version to begin with I don’t expect the story length to be an issue before I reach the trial limits.

Destiny 2 if I ever buy it will be another game I will treat like The Division. It will be one I jump into when I fancy some sort of shooting action and won’t be one I play constantly or in anyway farm for end game progression /shrugs

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deekay_plus

the trial only lets you do part of the singleplayer only story afaik, just an fyi.

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Soy

How many of those complaining have actually played the game? The internet in 2017. Everyone is an expert on things they know nothing about.

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Space Captain Zor

I can affirm the complaints are legit. I’ve got 2 characters at 20 and power level 280-ish and I’m starting to feel the burnout. It’s starting to simply turn into boring Overwatch.

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Soy

I’ve got two characters at max level. The third is a level away from being max. We just enjoy logging on and running some heroic public events for a bit. We’ve gone in the raid barely a few hours since schedules are not lining up for a full six.

Not been a terrible experience for us as whole. Sure there are things that could be better. Not a fan of the type of fights in the raid. Sneaking around is not my thing. Play a FPS to shoot things dead. The last phase of the gauntlet fight is kinda sad making everyone run around the room jumping over stuff.

We came into the game having played D1 knowing that it was a super casual, light story, fun shooter. As players who really don’t care for long, drawn-out grinds to max level this fit the bill. Get to 20 quick, then some mindless fun shooting stuff and then hoping the rewards bump your light level.

But some players need lore, in-depth story, and dress-up time. It is not that game.

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deekay_plus

they discovered these things by playing the game in the first place…

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Jack Pipsam

Bungie is long dead to me.

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Armsbend

I was holding off on the game for a new PC build in January. I’ve decided to forego giving scumbag developers any more of my money so I won’t be playing Destiny 2 ever. I don’t even care if it’s a big deal or not. If it is any controversy at all I’ll simply pass – as I am in this case.

Sucks I’ll never play another Battlefield again and miss out on a few experiences but such is life.

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Arktouros

*rage* *whine* *complain* *outrage*
*rage* *whine* *complain* *outrage*
*rage* *whine* *complain* *outrage*
*rage* *whine* *complain* *outrage*

Why aren’t they making any more MMOs or focusing on PC games anymore guys?

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deekay_plus

you know it’s console players complaining too right? and console players of the game have been raging about it since the 2nd week it was out on consoles.

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Dantos

In fact, console players have been complaining about destiny for YEARS!

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deekay_plus

yup! :D

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Armsbend

WGAS WGAF? If they can’t take the heat – get out of the kitchen. The less developers who cause rage the better. They should go do something else. Like become debt collectors or write parking tickets.

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