Here’s what Civil War-themed MMO shooter War of Rights has been up to since Kickstarter

Two years ago, Civil War-flavored multiplayer shooter War of Rights raised $118,000 on Kickstarter to see the title to completion, at which point it rather fell off our radar. But it’s been pumping out regular updates since then, including a user interface overhaul, the playable musician class, uniforms, multiple authentic locations, engine upgrades, and skirmishes.

“The biggest event for us in 2017 by far was the release of Skirmishes back in late May,” Campfire Games writes. “It brought actual combat and game mechanics into the game for the first time. We’ve been hard at work improving the alpha the entire year. Countless of bugs and server stability fixes, updated animations, new game systems, updated and expanded character models and going from the initial 3 skirmish areas released back in may to 12 today. Update 86 marks the 48th update in 2017 alone. We intend to continue keeping our update pace up in the next year.”

We’ve tucked a ton of screenshots and videos down below so you can get caught up, but it’s looking pretty impressive!

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MrEllis

The right to what?

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Celestia

Can’t imagine how awful the toxicity will be in this one.

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Cadaver

Not really my period, but this looks impressive. Good work!

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Scrungle

Looks really good.

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Colin Goodwin

This will turn into the alt-right’s kiddie pool so quick if not heavily moderated.
And by heavy moderation I mean literal real time GM censoring. Let’s not get so wrapped up in our idealistic BS to think that it’s not going to happen Mr. Larsen. People have proven over and over again that they are horrible given any chance to show that without consequences. Saying you’re not going to tolerate that type of behavior is one thing but actually moderating it and keeping it actually clear of that mess is going to require a dedicated team. I mean seriously, you can’t be that effing naive to think that in this climate any opportunity to boost an alt right signal won’t be taken.
I’m not upset by the simple fact that this game exists, I’m more upset that the people behind it seem completely willing to push some narrative about moderation when they are creating a platform in which the moderation of disgusting view points will have to be tempered through “historical accuracy” the second some alt right pos tries to pull the “rp” or “your game is literally about this how can you ban me for leaning into the concept” etc is when your idealistic view of what your moderation will be falls apart because the concept of the game itself undermines a lot of potential moderation.
How can you make a game, set it in a specific period of time when this country was cannibalizing itself over the argument of whether or not brown people should stay slaves, and then say you’re going to not tolerate exactly what that environment is going to attract and breed, give me a break.
The dog whistle has already been blown.

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Mads Larsen

Hello Colin,

The game has been in technical alpha (and now alpha) for 18 months roughly. So my statements are not naive – they are facts as it is happening right now and has been for the past 18 months.

It is as simple as creating a game about world war two, vietnam or any other conflict and set the same rules.

Our game is not about the politics of the war. It is about the fighting on the battlefield.

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Colin Goodwin

You can’t make a game about the Civil War and then try to divorce it from the politics that drove it. It will never work, so yes you are being naive in that regard.
Secondly I am currently playing many other MMOs and otherwise multiplayer games that still deal with the issue of moderation, not just against racist remarks but a whole variety of problematic player behavior and despite being comprised of much larger teams than yours they still can’t guarantee moderation like you’ve made it seem your team can so I’m not buying that either.
Your idealistic dream of creating a game about a war that was fought over slavery and somehow not having that touch your game is just that, idealistic drivel spewed by someone clearly unwilling to accept the reality of what they created and what it will attract.

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Melissa McDonald

Where is your outrage for depicting Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in WW2 games? Following your logic those should also be banned. I don’t recall neo-nazis taking over WW2 games being a real problem.

You’re entitled to your opinion but don’t present it as universal fact.

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Mads Larsen

I’m not saying it won’t happen. It will happen as it happens in every game.

I’m just saying people get banned for it (we’ve had a handfull of instances the past 18 months so to label us as a sort of digital meeting ground for neo-confeds is not very close to the truth) on the official servers.

Since you’ve already labeled me as several rather rude things I won’t bid you a good day but simply stop discussing with you.

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theblackmage75

It doesn’t appear to be my cup of tea but I’m still impressed by what’s been accomplished so far. The animations, smoke, environments, and even the challenge of shooting all inspired a feeling of being there on the battlefield. It also does well to hint at the terror and desperation of armed men standing in open fields firing across at each other or rushing into gunfire and swords with a letter-opener on the end of a stick.

I’ll be watching to see how the game turns out now.

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Richard de Leon III

Considering the racial tensions in the US atm, this game might just be a seriously bad idea. How long before the confederate side is filled with real life kkk,nazi, and alt right fanatics and the game devolves into a proxy battlefield between political and social views regardless of what the developers do? That alone will make me avoid the game, i play games to avoid real life not be reminded of it.

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Jeremy Barnes

The very idea that we don’t do things because nazis may pervert them is ridiculous.

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Richard de Leon III

Just saying it seems like a bad idea, if anything bad timing. It would be nice if real life was beyond pettiness but certain world leaders being elected devolved us by about 70 to 100 years.

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Mads Larsen

The game is about the Maryland campaign of 1862 – not America in 2017.

We have a very dedicated community already and I see no reason why it won’t continue to be such in the future. :)

Like any war game, the subject is of course serious which is why we wish to do it justice.

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Richard de Leon III

But once the word gets out, the new players will be the ones to ruin the experience. In current mmos we have enough problems with people the shout out political views even in a setting that is wholly unrelated like fantasy. Imagine a player group forming in your game using the gane chat to justify certain abhorrent views in a setting that is a source for many real life tensions on the topic. In real life many of those types arent even afraid to show their faces, imgaine a platform where they still have anonimoty.
Theres a reason lots of civil war era monuments or historical effect are being removed or contested because civil discourse has all but become impossible nowadays on the topic. Controversy, regardless of attempts to mitigate or control, is all but inevitable with the setting alone. Its just a flashpoint waiting to happen imho.

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Mads Larsen

We don’t allow any racial remarks on our official servers. People caught or reported will get banned.

As noted above by Jeremy we can’t tailor a game to avoid certain people from using it in a specific manner – (idiots will be idiots). By your logic there shouldn’t be any games portraying real life scenarios as they all would, in one way or another allow people to do inappropriate stuff in-game.

I’m not going to chime in on the monument debate (it really depends on location and use I think) but I will say that one of the best reasons to study history is to learn from it and avoid doing the same mistakes as were done in the past.

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Mads Larsen

The game will have community hosted servers like most other online shooters. Naturally we’re not going to be moderating privately hosted servers. If you happen to get into a server with a bunch of bad dudes you simply join another server with more like minded people.

So no, no fleet of admins – although we will continue to moderate the official game servers though. :)

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Paragon Lost

Community hosted servers and no fleet of admins to moderate? LOL Everything that posters are posting on this thread that is critical of your mmo, you are actually reinforcing. Nicely played there Mads Larsen.

As an aside, I also have an issue with the title of the mmo “War of Rights”. It empowers those with a certain wrong mindset to feel more entitled to their point of view being the correct one.

You can play ignorance and “no that’s not what we’re doing here”, but sorry it’s not playing well with the more rational people. Oh and there are quite a few historians, who are gamers who would find what you’re doing distasteful.

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Mads Larsen

Well I’m certainly glad the reception here is nowhere similar to the one we’re getting from actual civil War interested people.

Frankly the pure backlash and need to be offended by something (the need to label us as distasteful, completely ignoring the reasoning for our title use) has surprised me very much.

I’m sorry you can’t accept us as what we are and respect that we would like to honor the men on both sides that fought in that horrible conflict with an as accurate representation of it as possible in a video game. You guys have stirred more issues up than there ever has been in-game. In short, the outcry here about what the game might be catering to has already surpassed the amount of actual incidents in the game.

Do you find reenactors that portray confederates distasteful as well?

If only you knew how much more or a socialistic country Denmark is compared to the states you’d quickly realize even trying to put a right wing political label on our project is nonsense.

Lastly WoR is not an mmo. It is an online shooter with historical accuracy and simulation elements.

I’m done here. Thank you for making me realize we’re targeting the correct audience already and there’s no need to try and cater to others. :)

Merry Christmas everyone!

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Richard de Leon III

Didnt mean to bring up the monument debate beyond as an example. It seems anything related to the civil war just invites a riot so to speak.

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Mads Larsen

Don’t worry, the vast majority of people are able to tell that we’re not trying to push any sort of political agenda so there’s really not much to be outraged about. We’re all about historical authenticity so if it was there (like a confederate battle flag of a particular regiment) it will be featured in the game.

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J. J. Sándor

Say, when the core game is done, how difficult would it be to add another setting as an expansion pack / spin-off? I don’t care all that much for the Civil war, but I’d pay good money to play through Wellington’s Peninsular campaign, or even Waterloo or Austerlitz. It’s an awfully under-used period.

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Mads Larsen

Quite a considerable amount of time – all of our levels are 1:1 in scale, with accurate height maps, roads, fields and structures. Same goes for our uniforms as well as animations.

We’ve been developing War of Rights since 2012 and have no plans to take it to anywhere else – never say never though!

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Melissa McDonald

as it should be! Historical accuracy is something to be proud of, not ashamed of. Wargaming could learn that lesson with its sanitized vehicles!

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K38FishTacos

If we want accuracy, then don’t we also need to include the raping, looting, pillaging, enslavement and massacres of civilians?

Because that’s what happens in war (not just talking about the Civil War of the US), since you brought up Wargaming.

There are laws in Russia (maybe also in Germany?) that Wargaming probably wants to comply with.

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Armsbend

The name ‘War of Rights’ makes me think this is a group that thinks the Civil War was something other than what it was. I’m not taking part in revisionist history – even in my games.

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Paragon Lost

Exactly Armsbend. Exactly.

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Mads Larsen

Hi there! The name was chosen by us as we’re focusing on the Maryland Campaign of 1862 which would enable Lincoln to announce his emancipation proclamation and thus changing the face of the war. The “Rights” in the title reflects two very common stances the people who fought it took. First one is the stance of the “State’s Rights” and the second one is the fight for basic human rights for an enslaved people. :)

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Melissa McDonald

Theoretically that would appease both points of view and both realities. I hope everyone else can accept it as such and not politicize it further. A good example is the popularity of WW2 games without addressing the Holocaust or the similar things that happened in Russia and Asia.

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Mads Larsen

We’re not here to state why the war started. We’re here to portray the actions on the battlefield. We do find it interesting that the subject of its start is still such a hotly debated one which is part of the reason we chose a title touching both sides of the argument. :)

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deekay_plus

couldbe taken both ways – both the confederate claim of states rights and the union/lincoln claim of equal rights for all men and women.

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Armsbend

I’m not doing that – getting into an argument about what the Civil War was in gaming. Frankly, I don’t do that in real life either because I can see the trap coming from a mile away.

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deekay_plus

fair enough i was just saying it could go both ways on this title. :P

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Mads Larsen

It looked like you did above by announcing your thoughts of our lack of understanding of its history. :)

No worries, we’ve been called worse by people jumping to the same conclusion as you did. Luckily most understand the thought process behind picking the title when we explain the two stances it portrays.

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Mukit

I didn’t now this was a thing. Kinda cool! Anyone know when they get to the cannons and horses?