CCP is working on ‘a new and highly ambitious MMORPG’

Even with massive downsizing and the end of its virtual reality ambitions, CCP hasn’t quite thrown in the towel just yet.

One of our tipsters noticed that the studio is hiring a lead designer for “a new and highly ambitious MMORPG,” suggesting that CCP hasn’t given up on looking past EVE Online to the future. The untitled game in question is being made in CCP’s London studio with a small, dedicated crew.

“We are looking to grow a relatively small, tight-knit team, capable of delivering big ideas through experience, smart process, and world-class tools,” CCP said. “We are looking for a new lead designer to join this growing team, responsible for leading a small team of experienced designers in the development and execution of our game design.”

This game could be one of two known titles in development, the EVE first-person shooter spin-off Project Nova or the mobile Project Aurora. Alternatively, it could be an entirely new MMO, which presents all sorts of exciting possibilities.

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Mihalis Katirtzoglou

>Starts making a niche game about vampires fighting werewolves with an already established fanbase
>A couple years later: abloobloo why is this not the new League of Legends that makes a shitload of money with zero creative effort??? I quit!!!!

What a piece of shit company.

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Rick

This crap looks like Firefall meets Quake. What closed end choices you have so far for a character. Looks like the same old game with no new twists. Come on CCP you can do better than this.

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sevrl bats

what, exactly, looks like Firefall meets Quake? the art at the top of this post? that’s just an old Dust 514 promotional image Massively used

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Lateris

I see them going more mobile. But that is my guess. They could also go more cross platform as the Xbox and PS4 consoles are all X86 now. Or they could be making a avatar based MMO on the political systems of Eve Online? My guess is on mobile development. I am more interested in Project Nova.

Edited: I think this is for Project Nova?

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MrEllis

CCP hates their feet.

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plasmajohn

CCP does not “get” PvE. At all. Their corporate DNA is all PvP all the time. If you listen to the FanFest 2017 presentations it’s all about how to get folks to PvP more and how rewarding PvP is.

Look at their recent attempts at improved PvE. They spent time and effort to make PvE events that act like PvP. And from what I understand they’re pretty much ignored. Just a thought… maybe people who prefer PVE don’t. want. to. PvP.

How many PvP focused MMO’s have any sort of success? Oh well, when this one crashes and burns hopefully they’ll finally get the hint that PvP isn’t the be-all-end-all of gameplay.

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Lateris

I play the PvE elements of Eve Online all the time. So does my Corp. I would agree that the game needs more PvE elements and thew system can be expanded which they are doing. However, PvP is successful in Eve, very successful. I play as an explorer so my elements are far different. I used to play as a miner, run missions. Please refer to this older article http://massivelyop.com/2017/04/12/eve-fanfest-2017-eve-online-plans-amazing-new-pve-gameplay/

Also join a large corp. Very fun

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zeko_rena

I love how salty everyone is against CCP
I mean how fucking dare a game developer try to develop a new game, what a bunch of assholes CCP are!

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Rolan Storm

What, WoD was not ambitious enough? Almost everyone skeptic on this one, so am I. What the hell, CCP? ‘New ambitious MMORPG?’ Yeah, right.

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Byórðæįr

the things you can get from the requirements,

first there is an art director for what ever game it is so that means the person is working to an existing concept. likely the eve verse.

they are responsible for the starting point of the designs that match the concept, so clearly they are going to have to supervise all the other designers.

It really sounds like a film director working for art director. Which tends to suggest that they are trying to update the eve verse to living breathing version of a mmo. Eve is an MMO, but one thing people keep asking for is stations that can walk around in, ship bridges they can see more than picture of their character. So likely they are trying again with the concepts they wanted with world of darkness, walking around stations, updated character models, and dust. They have millions of lines of story written down and empires and plots but what they don’t have is an engine that can render anything more than a sand table version of the game. Which means that the job is going to be an all or nothing likely. You either succeed in making the game they want or they cut you lose and they continue working on eve online. Either way it is good learning experience but I am hoping if that is what it is for they find some one capable of succeeding this time. Eve is fun but most of the time it feels too much like a spread sheet and not enough flying and shooting.

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MeltWithYou

It blows my mind that CCP doesn’t consolidate that team and dramatically expand the scope of EVE to compete with the likes of star citizen. The foundation is already there, they have a huge advantage and a loyal diehard fan base.

Sad thing with CCP, they have built a solid reputation for walking away from failed ventures if it’s not an immediate huge success…kinda like Sony…which is why I won’t buy the new flashy device Sony has for sale unless it garners PlayStation one levels of success, that way I’ll know it’ll be frigging supported next year.

/meh

I wish them the best, I’m not holding my breath though

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Wilhelm Arcturus

Hah! Compete with Star Citizen! That is hilarious! Somehow a nearly 15 year old game that makes money of its own accord needs to adapt to a pile of promises likely never to be delivered? That way lies madness.

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Koshelkin

They should sell Eve to Perfect World Entertainment or Nexon and invest the money into a new MMO to show their “fans” how a middle finger really looks like.

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Crowe

I didn’t think they had enough staff these days to properly run Eve much less take anything new on.

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Tithian

The real question is… why? Why try to create one more niche product (due to the size of the team, and the overall philosophy in CCP, it can only be niche) in an overly saturated market? Is EVE revenue slipping?Do they just want to throw money into a black hole for some reason?

To be fair, after the cancellation of WOD I feel like they blew their chances to penetrate the MMO market with a second (successful) title.

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Cyclone Jack

Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?

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Grave Knight

Maybe it’ll be a urban fantasy where players can be vampires, werewolves, hunters, mages, and other supernatural beings. They could call it World of Darkness… :|

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7BitBrian

If only Dust 514 had been more like Destiny or the Division. Hopefully thats what Project Nova is going to be because it had a lot of cool concepts and ideas and I think it’d fit that gametype very well.

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Sally Bowls

Good luck; new MMOs are always welcome.

It is essentially 2018 and so MMORPG does not automatically mean PC-based MMORPG. During the restructuring discussions (layoffs) the CEO complemented some of the mobile MMOs in China, I would expect, could be wrong, that the new game will at least have a mobile component.

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kgptzac

CCP’s VR stuff was “highly ambitious”, and see how that turn out. tbh this job description is quite red flag

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Rolan Storm

IKR? Every time this phrase surface you can bet dollars to donuts it will not end well.

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Nosy Gamer

We know it’s not an FPS – that’s Project Nova being developed by Sumo Digital.
We know it’s not a mobile game – that’s Project Aurora being developed by PlayRaven.

Also, we know that CCP is getting better, at least with games set in the EVE universe. CCP finished recovering their development costs for Valkyrie back in March. As well as Gunjack sold, that probably is in the black as well. If Gunjack 2 hasn’t recovered it’s development costs, it soon should. The game was made as an exclusive for Google’s VR system so CCP probably made quite a bit of money from Google from that fact alone. The big question is Sparc, which was not set in the EVE universe. Will that make a profit?

It looks like CCP cashed out of VR while it was ahead (which given CCP’s history is really weird). After selling the Newcastle studio, they should have enough to pay back the venture capitalists who invested $30 million into CCP for VR development back in 2015 and have a tidy profit left over. I expect the tidy profit, since one of the two venture capital firms, Novator, has been an investor in CCP for over 10 years and will still be the biggest investor in CCP (as well as have 2 of the 5 seats on the board of directors) after New Enterprise Associates departs the scene. While I believe all of the moves (Newcastle sale, Atlanta closing, layoffs) were forced by NEA wanting to cash out, I highly doubt Novator will allow NEA to walk away with all the money.

Given what I saw at EVE Vegas, I expected CCP to become more of a game publisher than a game maker in the future. This bit of news has been floating around for a couple of weeks and I’m still trying to figure out what CCP is up to. Maybe we’re finally getting Walking in Stations.

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Sally Bowls

It is interesting and intriguing to what CCP will do. The polite way of phrasing is that CCP is not bound by conventional wisdom in its plans.

But a lot of that is somewhat surprising to me. I thought the new VC company got equity not a loan, and the company buying that back with cash was not the way I would expect the deal to be unwound. There are two VCs that own a majority of the stock. If they are fine as is, probably little new will happen, regardless of NEA’s feelings. If those two VCs want to cash out, then I would expect either an IPO or selling the company, perhaps involving a Chinese company. Getting rid of the fat – VR, community team, employees – would be consistent with that or just trimming down to increase profitability.

You may be correct about all the sales being sufficiently profitable. When a product/division is sold/closed then all of the assets that are being depreciated/amortized are zeroed. It’s a private company; I don’t know the details. But I would be surprised if the remnants of the spending on DUST and VR would generate that much cash.

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Nosy Gamer

The 2 companies that did the VR investment got a special type of stock. I don’t know what made it special, but I’m assuming that the companies had buy-out options and that NEA invoked theirs. And as of the financial statement for 2016, there were three financial companies that owned almost 80% of CCP: Novator, General Catalyst, and NEA. The special stock issue given to NEA & Novator for their 2015 investment made up a 20% share in CCP.

What I’m assuming is that when NEA invoked their stock option, CCP didn’t have the cash, which led to the attempt to sell-off the studio in Newcastle, plus the other cost cutting measures. I don’t really know how it works if an investor wants to cash-out their position.

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SeedEve

I’ll believe it when I see it running but right now looks like another CCP’s ambitious project which will probably never see the light of day.

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boredinBC

It’s not like Ubisoft, Activision, EA, Bethesda, Daybreak, Funcom, Tencent, or Riot have had any layoffs in the past few years.

Layoffs and downsizing are critical components to running nearly every business with any scaleable deliverable. It’s messy and it’s unfortunate, but it’s not unethical. CCP hired and fired its employees according to the law and while they worked there they were (by all accounts) paid and treated fairly. Employment in this industry is not cradle to grave.

They’ve had a few defeats, and learned some valuable lessons along the way and now they are ready to have another go–Not every success is “lightning in a bottle”.

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Alberto

“Girl Please, talk to the hand” I have given up getting Hyped by anything NON-EVE related by CCP with their history of talking UP big new IP and then selling them off after firing and closing a bunch of their studios this is going to be Strike 3? 4 for them so far.

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Sorenthaz

Given their track record of being unable to do anything other than EVE, this doesn’t really mean anything right now.

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wandris

Eve Citizen Online… yess!

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kjempff

Shall we make a quick guess.. Yet another pvp mmo to the list ? Compete in a saturated market with a limited player base is a great idea.

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Theryl

Maybe CCP has resolved their project management issues and can refrain from too much executive meddling this time. Given their track record, I’ll believe it when I see it.

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Armsman

Wow – CCP throwing more money they don’t have down the drain…color me surprised. (And yeah sorry but if you call development on an MMO after 6 years and $20 million spent – you know WoD – maybe you should take the hint your ‘team’ isn’t up to the challenge and focus on keeping the ONE success you do have going. CCP couldn’t even keep Walking in Stations going after only implementing then removing EVE’s ‘Captain’s Quarters.)

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Who are you to say they are throwing out money they don’t have? and BTW in case you didn’t know, walking in stations/captains quarters was a 5 or 6 years obsolete feature that had no future and no demand to be developed further. A failed experiment, which was worth the attempt but not something that ever resonated with the players. The avatar creation tools that came with captain quarters though I do not think was a failure and a great addition to the game which is still being used today. Not what I would call a waste.

The best way for Eve/CCP itself to prosper is building more games around its MMO. If they can manage a few hit games it could have huge potential for eventually bringing more new people into Eve online.

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Armsman

Um, just because they announced “Walking In Stations” in December 2005 – and touted “Walking In Stations” in practically every video and Fan Fest discussing ‘upcoming things in EVE’ for the next 6 years until they finally managed to release they ‘Captain’s Quarters’ in June 2011 – doesn’t make it an ‘obsolete feature’.

Hell, if anything it would have made those EVE promotional videos that SHOW Captains, Commanders and various politicians walking around giving orders or scheming a more honest representation of EVE gameplay than what exists currently.

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Fluffy Magical Unicorn

Maybe this time it will be more ‘pfffft’ at last.

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Reselect Name

I don’t see how they could pull off working on anything other than EVE at this point.

How many failures have they had in a row now?

They seem to come up with ideas that under normal circumstances would work but then they ruin it by throwing in some kind of gimmicky monkey wrench.

Dust – Release it exclusively for one outdated console when it should have been on PC first and foremost. And wasnt Dust bad on release even for outdated console standards?

Valkyrie – Required VR, VR and 3d are gimmicks.

They need to stop half assing and doing gimmicky nonsense.

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A Dad Supreme

As a non-EvE player with no interest in it whatsoever and never giving them one dime, I fully welcome this new MMO supported and paid for by all the loyal CCP fans over the years. :P

As long as it’s not a “mobile” MMO, color me interested and wishing them very good luck! If it is mobile, then pass the remote so I can change the channel.

As others have noted, their repeated use of the word “small team” is not a good sign.

Last time I heard “small team” and “MMO” in the same breath from a company we got Trove and Atlas Reactor, both of which I had no interest in whatsoever.

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Denice J. Cook

I hope to God it’s actually Project Nova they’re hiring for, and not some other new MMO. CCP habitually spreads itself too thin, then implodes again every few years. I think Hilmar is manic or something.

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Melissa McDonald

emphasis on the “small” in small team. *Cough, cough*

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Jdawg Playsgames

It will never see the light of day just like WoD didn’t.

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TheDonDude

Kinda nice to see a company actually write “MMORPG”.

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Mikka Hansen

Great, I’ll be waiting for it while I play their awesome WoD MMO…hey, wait…

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BalsBigBrother

So are we going to start betting pool on how long this one lasts it get a bolt to the head?

I shouldn’t be cynical but yeah CCP haven’t got a good track record when it comes to developing games with names other than EVE Online. Still I will give them points for not giving up on trying and on how seemingly deep their pockets are to allow them to.

Will have to wait on actual details before I can decide if I am at all interested though :-)

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McGuffn

Highly ambitious, small crew and no lead designer kind of says it all for now.

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Armsbend

I’m not the biggest CCP fan but I’ll be positive and wish them the best of luck. They are capable of doing good things – they just tend to step on their own foot sometimes.

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Sometimes?

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Utakata

I don’t think you are being a cynic at all here. They have a demonstrative track record of claiming to produce an ambitious game, only to pull the plug on it sometime after the fact.

Plus, their pockets are not that deep if they’re laying people off…as opposed to carrying them over to their next “ambitious” project. That’s quite worrisome actually. As in, they could end up inadvertently sinking EVE in the process. /sigh

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John Kiser

I think a big problem is they listen to EVE’s fanbase a little too much on things. The MMORPG they were working on in the past could of been fantastic, but they instead listened to EVE fans whining that it”d take focus off EVE development and scrapped it and largely are paying for scrapping it.

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Armsbend

The people they fired might have been specialists in VR. If that is true and they closed the project it wouldn’t serve anyone to keep them on. One guy can be good at VR tech and not good at drawing landscapes in a video game.

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Nosy Gamer

The people involved in the layoffs included the staff of the Newcastle studio (~40 employees) which is being sold. They are still working on EVE Valkyrie’s last content drop. Something tells me they will still have jobs after the sale is announced.

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Utakata

I suppose. But that’s depending whether everyone they laid off is a VR expert or had skills and expertise in other areas. Either way though…I am still not sure their pockets are that deep.

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Armsbend

Where they fail in creating hit games they may exceed in sound financial planning. You can look at your balance sheet and rather than keeping someone on while continuing to lose money – you close shop and re-focus. Keeping employees on that you don’t need is bad business and a sure way to bring the entire company down.

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Utakata

Putting a side any jokes looking at balance and spread sheets is really no different in RL than playing EVE, I am not really disputing any “sound financial planning” on CCP’s behalf. I am disputing the suggestion they have deep pockets. I don’t think they do. And probably the main reason they may have sound financial planning in the first place if that’s the case. :)

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