The Daily Grind: Where do you turn for your MMO guidance?

The great part about MMOs is that they’ve embraced one sort of crowdsourcing almost from the moment they first existed, and that’s crowdsourcing information. It’s never been hard to find information about the best builds for an MMO, what abilities work best, and so on. It’s all just waiting out there in handy, easy-to-read guides.

And the fact that often lots of that information disagrees or contradicts itself is just icing on an awful cake! So now instead of being confused, you’re confused and don’t know who to believe.

Of course, we usually tend to find our sources early on and stick with them as long as we can; we all know that there are good sources and worse sources. So our question today is where you turn for your MMO guidance. Official forums? Reddit? Game-specific sites? Your friends in the game? Shrugging and doing your best to work things out on your own? Random number generation?

Every morning, the Massively Overpowered writers team up with mascot Mo to ask MMORPG players pointed questions about the massively multiplayer online roleplaying genre. Grab a mug of your preferred beverage and take a stab at answering the question posed in today’s Daily Grind!
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Crowe

Meh, mostly to MOP and MMORPG.com. If I was actually *playing* a MMO for longer than a couple of weeks (thanks to sucktastic MMOs from the last few years) then that place would usually be their official forums.

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Alex Malone

For finding out about MMOs I’ve not heard of – MMORPG.com and massivelyop.com

For getting more detailed information about games I’m interested in (pre-purchase) – official game websites

Once I’m playing a game, I generally try to work things out for myself. If I need to look externally, generally google for information, or official forums for discussions. I know most people seem to hate official forums but I’ve always found them to be the most helpful places for actual discussions. Sure, the “general” bit is toxic as hell, but diving into class subforums or dungeon guide forums was always really good.

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CasualSlacks

Searching:
Google > Game Sub-Reddit > Youtube > Offical Forums

Asking:
Game Sub-Reddit > In-Game General Chat > Complaining On Twitter With HashTag > Meditating > Official Forums

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Bryan Correll

I like to ask questions in general chat and phrase said questions in a way that implies I’ve only just learned that something called online gaming exists. People are always so helpful!

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Ben Stone

Most new/updated games don’t really even need them. Far too streamlined. Everquest 2 was the last time I had to go look for external help with quests and such.

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connor_jones

It does seem that official forums aren’t nearly as helpful as they used to be. These days I find myself relying more on third parties like Ayin Maiden, Unfair, and of course Dulfy.

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camelotcrusade

It’s been a while, but I favored wikis and fan sites. The best fan sites published regular and relevant content, and, time was, had community commentary worth reading. Nowadays I tend avoid comment sections unless they’re moderated (like MoP!) as they’ve generally soured or gone toxic. And by avoid I mean read them anyway and wish I hadn’t.

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Hirku

A combo of wikis and experimentation with test characters. I usually spend my first month just learning the ropes before actually playing.

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touchofkiel

I play FFXIV, which doesn’t require any sort of guide. It holds your hand through – well, anything. But if I have a small question, the reddit sub is usually good enough.

And I play FFXI… which is the opposite. But a lot of sites have outdated information, and also current information. So it’s usually a process of mixing and matching Wiki and BG, etc.

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nobleeinherjar

Do you know what kind of state the FFXIclopedia is in these days? I haven’t played FFXI for a few years now, but I remember it being an invaluable source of information.

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Utakata

Currently, it’s Mr. rafael. o.O

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Melissa McDonald

if there’s a wiki, i go there.

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Wanda Clamshuckr

I’m more concerned with maps, and having easy to access data laid out in front of me. I’m not that interested in gaming forums, as personal bias tends to choke out information that might be more relevant to me. Well, bias, coupled with popularity contests.

Wiki I tend to use to access skill/ability data. My personal gaming journey does not reflect what the general populace does, so I’ve always created my own builds.

Map sources are dependent on what game you are playing, so listing one isn’t that important here. As long as it is detailed, and up to date, then I’ll use it.

I only use YouTube to peruse the occasional dungeon before I step into it. Some in particular are laden with mechanics that can trip you up, and I’d rather have a heads up to save some pain later. For the most part, I just delve and see what I find.

So, Wiki and YouTube to an extent, and Reddit to tap into the pulse of the community. I really try to avoid Official Forums as more often than not they are a complete cesspool.

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BalsBigBrother

My own stubbornness and googlefu usually see me eventually get the answers I look for about games.

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Minimalistway

I’ve switched to DuckDuckGo years ago, rarely i need to google anything, check it out :-)

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connor_jones

In the words of the late David Bowie, “Google is the Illuminati.”

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BalsBigBrother

*shows Illuminati official ID* and your point is?

:p

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Minimalistway

Basically they lost my trust, shutting down iGoogle and Google Reader was a bad move, i rarely love products, these happen to be things i truly love, i really enjoyed using them daily … then came Snowdon.

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camren_rooke

I ask in general chat first. After I get the usually Alt-F4’s and ‘Delete System 32 directory’ comments, if I don’t get a friendly whisper, I’ll tab out of the game and go google it.

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MesaSage

Wiki’s, Youtube, Forum, Trial and Error. Usually in that order.

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Robert Mann

Honestly? I try not to. I’d rather poke around and figure it out if possible. Then, if not, I mix my own judgment with finding locations and such online as a last resort.

Builds? Min/Max? All that? NEVER. I DETEST THAT. I think it ruins a lot of the fun in the games. And, honestly, having fun while performing pretty darn close to those theorycraft numbers works better 99.95% of the time (because burnout takes that much longer. Seriously, min/max requirements will make me quit *guild or game* in a matter of minutes.)

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Rick Mills

In past days, friends in the guild who were better players of the class I play – nowadays, I usually get a basic start from a gaming site (icy-veins) and go by feel from there.
Other than that, most PUGs will offer advice on your playstyle – but thats not always fun…

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pepperzine

Depends on what I need to know.

Business Model, I’ve learned to go directly to their cash shop and make that decision myself. Opinions on what is p2w and what is not is so varied that I’d rather base any questions of that issue first hand. The cash shop is the best way to see how you judge the model without even having to play the game (as long as you familiarize yourself with the item names and systems they affect from unbiased sources such as a wiki or objective description of them).

Build structures I normally go to official forums, not just for the OP, but for the comments on how it should be tweaked or adjusted to maximize effectiveness, and opinions on how it compares to other builds available.

Questing/missions I normally refer to wikis as they tend to be spot on the majority of time.

For bugs or ingame issues, a google search to see if others are experiencing the issue (pretty much the only time I use Reddit) seems to work fine.

Recommendations on what games to play, I normally turn to my friends in real life rather than reviews (both journalistic reviews and steam reviews) or random opinions on the internet. The majority of the time people on the internet consist of either white knights who think whatever their game of choice is the best thing ever or vice versa. Game reviews from official sources often appear to be promotional to me and I’m not sure I can trust them. On top of that, when providing their recommendations others online normally have no idea about what I personally enjoy, whereas my real life friends do.

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starbuck1771

Nowhere. I am not an idiot. Most of the games I play I have tested and I can’t stand using other players builds because whats right for them might not be right for me. So for me it is trial and error until I find what works for me and my playstyle.

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Zen Dadaist

I spend a while checking out various sources and seeing where the most accurate information tends ot crop up. Official Forums tend to highlight new or changed stuff very quickly, but rarely refine things. Rabbithole Reddit threads can produce some interesting number crunching, once all the spurious crap has been filtered. YouTubers are 99% ego maniacs and farm views with injokes but that remaining 1% with reliable real info get bookmarked. Sometimes there’s a Wiki for raw information too, though with variable degrees of accuracy and update speed.

Eventually I refine all of this into a handful of go-to info sources for each game I play, to save time. It’s never all concentrated into one place, unfortunately.

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zoward

Wikis, followed by dedicated web searches for really specific stuff. These days I’m not playing seriously enough to warrant the latter very often.

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Schmidt.Capela

I typically seek data, not conclusions; I can do my own theoricrafting and reach my own conclusions. Plus, I’m perfectly capable of getting to the data myself (a few years being trained in how to apply the scientific method does wonders here), so I can readily test data I acquire form other sources for inconsistencies.

As for where I go to find the information: every single freely available source (including reverse-engineering and datamining the game myself) except asking other players. I never, ever, ask for help in a game, and that includes asking for information; on the other hand I’m reasonably proficient in finding data without help, so I rarely, if ever, would benefit from asking others anyway.

Caveat: for me, digging out the data and doing my own theoricrafting based on it is fun. My approach wouldn’t be enjoyable for people that don’t enjoy number-crushing as much as they enjoy crushing mobs.

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Modrain

This! Glad to see another number lover.

I do pretty much the same except I tend to rely almost exclusively on online databases over datamining stuff myself.

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Pandalulz

Mostly I bang my face against the wall for a bit, and if I’m still totally confused about something, then I’ll Google Fu it. I kind of miss the days where I’d lurk places like Tankspot for info. As the games’ populations dispersed though, so did the folks talking about them. The info is out there it’s just spread to the wind.

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Zora

Game specific sites, almost universally. There’s always some resource, even for small titles just released like the wildstar of yore…often more than one.

If that doesn’t suffice, generally whatever google points you at for whatever issue you’re having. That’s where you got pointed to the aforementioned site to begin with anyway…

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