Ubisoft addresses Rainbow Six Siege toxicity, ESPN slams toxicity in Overwatch League

Ubisoft is sick of toxicity in its games, and to combat it, it’s whipping out the banhammer as a “first step” in getting the playerbase under control.

“Starting next week, we will be implementing an improvement on the system we have been using to ban players that use racial and homophobic slurs, or hate speech, in game,” the company told Rainbow Six Siege players on Reddit over the weekend. “The bans for this will fall within the following durations, depending on severity” – that’s everything from two days to a permanent ban. “Any language or content deemed illegal, dangerous, threatening, abusive, obscene, vulgar, defamatory, hateful, racist, sexist, ethically offensive or constituting harassment is forbidden.”

Moreover, toxicity-related bans will be broadcast via global message for all to see.

As Kotaku points out, Rainbow Six Siege in particular has a long history of toxicity that’s become a perpetual subject of angst among the community, such that players have been begging for Ubisoft to do something about it so that chat is usable for non-toxic players again.

Meanwhile, over in Overwatch land, Blizzard is finding itself confronted by a brand-new ESPN article calling out the studio for doing nothing about an Overwatch League player’s nasty comments. “No response from Overwatch League to Taimou’s use of gay slurs on stream” blares the headline. During an incident that took place in January, Dallas Fuel pro player Taimou was caught openly using homophobic, racist, and ageist language toward other players. Apparently it’s not even the first time the Fuel’s dealt with its players being awful, and it’s unclear right now what the team and Blizzard are planning to do about it (a report back in January was allegedly already dismissed by Blizz support). As our readers are surely well aware, Blizzard has been very vocal about thwarting Overwatch toxicity, but skepticism among players and watchers remains high.

When ESPN is calling you out…

Source: Reddit, Kotaku, ESPN via Kotaku
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Tyler1

Possibly the most Toxic player of any game, and still going strong on being Toxic. Yet, he gets unbanned while employee that called him out gets fired.

So yea, in all, companies cares more about players than anything else, especially if that player brings in a lot of Viewers (which means advertisement) for your games.

Blizzard probably won’t do shit about being called out by ESPN, who cares about ESPN when most gamers watches Twitch, which is the source of streams and where ESPN gets their stuff from in the first place, LOL. Most people that watch ESPN, watches actual sports, not Games.

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Danny Smith

How many years now have developers being preaching about a ‘war on tixicity’? and what do they have to show for it?

At the end of the day its at best patching a handful of leaks out of thousands on a sinking ship or at worst it can turn into a witch hunt where a community turns on and devours itself. The sad fact of it all though is this: It is spending time and resources not making the game more fun but making the playerbase smaller to save face.

The knee jerk reaction is “well these guys are assholes so we dont need em!” and its easy to say that while a population is healthy but how many games stay healthy forever? Is Overwatch going to only get more and more concurrecnt users forever? or is it more likely its going to dwindle as people start to realise its got great art but the ‘story’ of it doesn’t exist beyond constant backstory updates and the gameplay is actually quite shallow?

So at the end of the day you just have resources that could go towards making a game better just spent on something that doesnt really mean shit for you the consumer. Has anyone ever bought a game not because it looked fun but because you heard the devs have ‘taken a hard stance on toxicity’? anyone? anyone at all even once?

You can’t stop assholes being assholes. You can add block mechanics for players and thats fine because different people have different opinions, playstyles and so on. Trying to police it just means trying to have a hard line that can only agree with some of your users some of the time and its just not worth it in the long run. You want to keep selling units then that means you want to sell product wether the consumer is an ass or not. Companies like Blizzard try this appearance of ‘a kinder, gentler developer’ but its all about the sale and the healthy userbase. This doesn’t aid either. Its a money pit to solve a problem you cannot solve because the crux of the issue is free will.

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Armsbend

I don’t think it’s as bad as it used to be. In the early Halo 2/3 days the language was absolutely off the charts. It would make a neo-nazi blush. When LoL was in beta? Jesus effing christ the language was intense.

It still can be but in my experience it is much more tame than it was 10 years ago. If it wasn’t this political climate would create a language so colorful people might quit games altogether and just go post on right wing forums for their trolling pleasures instead.

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Robert Mann

Pointless, by and large. Toxicity is a societal problem, with much farther reaching issues. Additionally, it is emboldened by a lack of consequence (I choose this word, because name and shaming doesn’t really equate to actual consequence for most people.)

Unless the cost of being an ass is high enough, people will just be asses and re-create accounts or whatever. The solutions that will work are in culture changes (gaming and general) and getting those who thrive on nothing but the misery of others the help they so desperately need. We already know, after all, that people will drop 10K plus on a game, without anything but hope… so the monetary end of stopping this is just a big fat no.

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Scratches

So, because “it’s too hard,” we should just stop trying and give up all hope?

I don’t buy it nor believe it…

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rafael12104

So I’m for anything that eliminates toxicity in gaming. I mean, just like anything else there are some people who are just toxic. But minimizing their impact is important. Go Ubi.

Now as the Overwatch/Espn story. Blizz and Overwatch have done a lot to combat toxicity. But they can do more. As for ESPNs dress down? LOL!

Who are they to come in all holier than thou? All they care about is the money. They are more promoters than journalists. Remember a few years ago when they created “the” hype and an hour show on Lebron’s choice to go to Miami or Cleveland? That was the biggest manufactured news story in the history of sports. ESPN traded in their journalistic and “moral” credentials for money a long time ago. So please, ESPN, shut up, watch, wait and learn.

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Bullet Teeth

Timo “Taimou” Kettunen

Did you see that hunk of gaming beauty?! Holy mackerel. Look out Leonardo DiCaprio…we have a new stud in media. Make no mistake, if I was a chick, I’d have Randy Johnson-pitched my panties at my computer monitor…

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Jack Pipsam

If followed through, that’s going to be a lot of bans in that game lol.

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Bryan Dixon

The way I see it it comes down to how much money Activision blizzard wants to spend on dealing with the issue.
You start hardcore monitoring and lifetime ban this kind of behavior it will in my opinion have an effect.
List it on the forums. Username broke the tos for this behavior. Name the behavior. Banned account for life.

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Melissa McDonald

Go Vols

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Jeremy Barnes

Censorship is not a solution. It doesn’t work.

Games need to be developed to alleviate the causes. This is a game design issue.

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Serrenity

I disagree this is a game design issue. You can’t design a game where people aren’t asshats – asshats have to decide they no longer want to be asshats and that their behavior has consequences.

Also – this is not censorship. Just sayin’

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Jeremy Barnes
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Armsbend

Doesn’t work? Censorship has worked for liekly 1000s of years. It is working right now across the globe.

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Jeremy Barnes

Oh, so LOL isn’t a toxic pit anymore? Fantastic. Glad they fixed that.

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Armsbend

They haven’t censored anything as far as I’m concerned. Aggressively ban people and take away their ability to speak would be more effective.

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Armsbend

I’ll be using this image often in the future

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K38FishTacos

If only it were so easy.

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K38FishTacos

How could a pvp lobby shooter not be toxic?

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Robert Mann

It could exist within a culture that not only showed respect to their opponents but where the very act of being toxic like this was so ostracized that the idiot doing it may as well banish themself from that society.

Obviously not something gaming companies can do…

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Stiqman

But gaming companies can quickly and permanently remove professional players form their league the instant they demonstrate toxic behavior. Blizzard can set the tone with zero tolerance in their professional league and trickle that down to following up with bans in competitive and quick-play. I have sent in reports of people literally using overt racist and homophobic insults in a stream of expletives and heard nothing back. If you have 20-30 lines of chat text laced with toxic racist comments the decision to ban that player should have taken 3 seconds. It’s literally recorded digitally for them to confirm in the chat logs. And the whole OW community should hear about it. Every player ban for toxicity should be announced on a scrolling ticker on the bottom of the lobby screen. People need to know it’s real. Ban a few professionals for life, and ban 500-600,000 regular players and their will not be many left who don’t know somebody who got banned… their ability to control their mouth and keyboard will improve remarkably.