Lord of the Rings Online wants to know what you want from your VIP sub

Never say the devs aren’t listening: Standing Stone Games apparently is.

Lord of the Rings Online forumgoers learned this lesson today when in a player-started thread from April about VIP subscription benefits, SSG RedPanda piped up to request even more feedback.

“I just wanted to pop in and say hi and let you know that we are definitely interested in hearing more ideas on these things,” RedPanda writes. “We’re not promising anything but we are here to listen.” In fact, the studio rep specifically asks what players want from gold and silver Hobbit presents (and what they don’t want) as well as what, beyond cosmetics, players want out of their VIP monthly gift.

So far, players are suggesting aids to reduce grinding, improve alting, and eliminate junk like low counts of potions; the community wish list also includes marks, mithril coins, experience-boosting skills, and special furniture. A few players have expressed boredom with cosmetics and minipets, too. If you play, make sure to hop over and take the mic.

Source: Official forums. With thanks to Tanek!
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Paragon Lost

I always subscribe when I’m playing Lotro. A simple revamping/tweaking of the daily/weekly hobbit gifts would be a really nice thing and even maybe doubling the monthly lotro points for subbing. They don’t go very far at all.

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Roger Melly

It would be cool if there was one monthly VIP sub for both Lotro and DDO given they are older games now .

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Wakkander

I’ve often wished I could swap my lifetime sub between the two. I’ve spent considerably more time in ddo than lotro, and money to boot. So if they unified subs/points between the two, I’d be quite happy.

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2Ton Gamer

Double the amount of the stipend each month, and make all but the last expansion included.

As for the Hobbit gifts, take out the run speed boosts, the crams and mathom armor and add things like the old keys for the old boxes people are just trashing or giving away in trade chat.

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teppic

People have been asking for an overhaul for a long time. It’s badly designed in that it’s massive value to have it for one month, but it becomes more or less worthless very soon. That’s not how an optional sub is supposed to work.

That being said they need to work on their monetisation in general. Making people pay for multiple expansions dating back years as well as the latest expansion is just stupid, for example. It is an obscenely large barrier for new players. This content is not included in the sub either.

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Chosenxeno .

How about full access? You have to buy every expansion. Atleast get it to where I only need to buy the most recent. That’s what made me stop. I gave it a shot a few months back. Decent traditional MMORPG but way too expensive to catch up.

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Wakkander

I’ll just leave this here.

I have a lifetime sub actually, bought it pre-launch, and haven’t played the game all that much after the guild I was in imploded.

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Tobasco da Gama

I’ll post the same thing on the official forums where it’ll be read by the community team, but just for all you fine MOP people:

Access to all the story content. No arbitrary “everything but expansions” nonsense. If I’m paying a sub, I deserve access to everything the game has to offer.

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Chosenxeno .

Amen.

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Tanek

Not saying this would not be a plus for VIPs, but how many subscription games give the expansions for free to subscribers?

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Weilan

@Tanek, ESO does that, at least DLCs were before chapters came along. Seeing as how even DLCs have a huge storyline, it’s a fair trade. I got the base game, got Morrowind got Thieves Guild, got Dark Brotherhood, during the ESO Plus free week I played through Orsinium and Clockwork City, got my money’s worth. (Still haven’t played half of the base zones or Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood).

LOTRO is an outdated, extremely expensive and not really worth investing in type of MMORPG that may or may not shut down really soon. They need to get more generous and make the game cheaper. Hell, they don’t even have voice acting for the quest text, so why would I want to pay for this? So I can poke my eyes out reading walls of text? To struggle with quests, because their quest representation on the map is inferior to an Asian F2P MMORPG?… No thanks. At least ESO feels more alive thanks to the voice acting.

I would hate to pay for a game that will shut down and I will have no way to play it anymore. At least with WoW you don’t even have to pay for retail as there are private servers left and right. I’ve never played retail, only on private servers since 2007 and now I’ve had so much WoW I can’t take it anymore.

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styopa

I understand your point, but while I *personally* have gotten tired of f2p games and would like to go back to the monthly sub for the full game model, even I admit that – if f2p games can keep the lights on through the income from cash shops, which they clearly can – then the model where I pay (Blizzard, for example) $180/year to play their game by now should really rationalize free expansions.
I know that’s not how Blizzard or other companies have done it, and Blizzard manages to somehow continue (so it’s not going to change, I believe), but I’d say the days of $180 year PLUS $60 per expansion from everyone playing SHOULD be over by now.

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Tobasco da Gama

LOTRO isn’t a subscription game, it’s Free-to-Play. If content is all delivered in the form of expansions that my subscription doesn’t get me access to, why shouldn’t I just save up my sub money to buy the Extra Super Special Deluxe versions of the yearly/every-other-yearly expansion pack instead?

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Tanek

Because of the other things a subscription should offer. Which, granted, are somewhat lacking in LOTRO these days and that is the whole point of the thread. :P

Plus, you can get Mordor for points in the store now, so if VIPs wanted to go that route they could.

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Tobasco da Gama

But you still have to account for the cost of the expansion in your budgeting, is my point. You have to set aside at least $40 for an expansion, assuming you don’t want the new class or race or whatever, in which case you need to budget $80, which is almost the whole price of an annual subscription. There’s basically nothing a subscription could offer that would justify spending $100 a year on top of that.

Keep in mind that, while Mordor is available for points now, it wasn’t on release. SSG didn’t even confirm that it would be available for points until like a month after the expack was out. And then it finally became available for points four months later.

That’s a hell of an advertisement for a subscription, isn’t it? “Pay $99 a year so you can wait four months longer than the Free-to-Play players to get the new story content! Oh, and you won’t get the Aria of the Valar that they all got, or the exclusive cosmetics.”

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Alex Hyer

A new game.

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Diego Lindenmeyer

make it cheaper and take p2w from store.

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Sorenthaz

Well the ability to ignore the cash shop should be the first no-brainer.

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Tobasco da Gama

In principle, that’s what the 500 TP/month stipend is for.

Whether the rest of what you get with your subscription actually makes up the difference between the cost of the sub and the dollar value of the stipend is debatable, of course, especially since SSG decided to start double-dipping into the wallets of their VIPs again with by making Mordor an “expansion” rather than just a quest pack like all the Gondor zones were.