PlayStation 4 heads into the end of its life cycle, making console MMOs nervous

No console lives forever, although it seems like the more recent generations have enjoyed lengthy runs. Sony delivered some disconcerting news to fans this week as it said that the PlayStation 4, which debuted back in 2013, is now heading into the end of its life cycle as hardware sales decrease.

This doesn’t mean that the console is going to be abandoned any time soon, just that Sony is shifting its hardware priorities elsewhere. Software sales are still expected to continue strong for the time being, and the company reported that the online PlayStation Network now has 80 million users. Sony told The Wall Street Journal that the next iteration of the popular platform is at least three years off.

Still, this news does concern the growing field of console MMORPGs, many of which have migrated to the PlayStation 4. These include Final Fantasy XIV, DCUO, Neverwinter, Star Trek Online, Elder Scrolls Online, and Warframe. We saw what happened with the PlayStation 3 at the end of its life cycle, when studios stopped supporting their products on that console (such as when Bungie ceased updates for Destiny on the PS3 while continuing on with the PS4). How long do these games have on these platforms? It’s still too early to tell, but one thing is for sure: The clock has started ticking down.

Source: Polygon
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I went immediately and got a refund for Diablo 3 for their being no Necromancer because the “PS3 couldn’t handle bodies flying all over.” No thanks.

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Sally Bowls

Some observations:

Sony is deemphasizing hardware in favor of recurring revenue. My guess is things like PSN will become more common and more expensive.

Moore’s law says that transistors (performance) double every 18 months. So a 7.5-year console cycle means the desktop CPUs available at the end of the console life will be 3200% the power of the CPUs at the start end of the console life.

I do see consoles as cheap – less than the cost of a video card and half the price of a smartphone. There is a reason the core console market tend to own both consoles. Over a console generation, I tend to spend more in PC gaming on stupid Razer gaming mice and keyboards that suicide themselves under coffee/coke.

Does anyone see [m]any new AAA or even AA MMOs that are PC-only no console? NCSoft has said they won’t and look at FF and TESO and even H1Z1 can do well on console.

Futurist ponder, which generation of gaming console will no longer require the console? If more work is being done in the cloud, then could you play the game on a PC or even tablet?

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I’m not in the loop on how console life cycles run, but it seems odd that Sony would announce end of life for the current generation product before they’ve made any noise at all about the next generation (maybe they have started hyping PS5 and I just don’t know about it, but I’m not aware of anything that’s been said).

Either way, what are the chances that Sony will do something like backwards compatibility on the PS5 to let you continue to play PS4 titles that you already own, like how you can play XBox 360 titles (some, anyway) on the XBox One?

I can understand reasons that might not be possible or practical, but it seems like with the proliferation of multiplayer console titles that people tend to play for a lot longer than the usual single player fare this would be a bigger selling point than it once was.

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Tobasco da Gama

Not only that, it feels like they JUST released the PS4Plus or whatever they call their console with the improved hardware. The actual PS5 release must still be a year or two out, but it still feels really weird.

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Sally Bowls

Three. At least. As per the article above, the CEO just told the WSJ the new console was at least three years out.

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Only rumors for now, it’s likely that we’ll hear more about the PS5 next year, if maybe not an announcement.

Backward compatibility is really a necessity in my eyes, and it certainly is doable (same architecture, unlike the PS3)… but will they?
Who knows.
It’s likely that the PS5 will be an iteration over the PS4 model rather than something completely different, consoles are very much akin to PCs now.

But of course, it’s always a matter of choice from the platform holder.
Same way some games got a PS4 Pro patch, while some didn’t.

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Suikoden

I wouldn’t worry if you are a PS4 mmo player. It was many years after the end of the PS3 that FFXIV and DCUO cut the platform. And if the PS5 is 3 years away, I’ll give the current MMOs a 6 year span from today, easily.

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Your Honor

I think it’s a bit suicidal to not include backward compatibility at this point.
I simply won’t buy the next gen console if there isn’t any.

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The good thing with MMOs is that your account is (supposed to be) platform agnostic at least.
Some scummy companies ask you to pay when you change your hardware, but I’m not too worried about them.

Much more worried about CCP and their soon to be revealed F2P battle royale MOBA card game exclusive to the PS4 Pro and Atari Jaguar and to be released about five days before the PS5 reach the shelves.
Or something like that, they have a knack for stupid projects.

Outside of that, makes sense, consoles getting older and all that.
The PS4 is still selling gangbusters though, can’t see it being dropped off even with the next gen coming up.
I just hope we’ll see more backward compatibility, it sucks that Sony and Nintendo got rid of that (even for digital games… this certainly wouldn’t make me buy anything on the Nintendo store when I lose everything on DS, Wii, 3DS and Wii U the moment the next console is here… what a bad joke that was).

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Malcolm Swoboda

Not a big deal. Console gen will still be happening through somewhere 2019-2020, and relevant somewhere through 2020-2022.

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Sally Bowls

The Sony CEO just told the WSJ that the new console was at least three years out. So I am certainly not expecting a new generation in ’19 or ’20.

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Malcolm Swoboda

Cool, that’s what I said then. ‘Nearing’ the ‘end’ of a ‘life cycle’ still doesn’t necessarily mean a new console released this year, next year, or maybe even the year after. We can just be sure that there’s work being done for it. And even then, there’s the ‘crossgen’ period, and even at least a year or two of general cultural relevance (PS3 may have ended early 2010s, but still mattered until mid 2010s to gamers).

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Jay Power

Kinda leaving out the important part that says will be three years until the next console.

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Darthbawl

Kinda leaving out the important part that says will be three years until the next console.

Ugh… :P

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Bree Royce

It’s literally in the article. At the end of the second paragraph. The giant link.

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David Dwyer

Oh my Gosh Bree. You and Justin are such Xbox fanboys. Such biased reporting! Go back to Halo you PS4 hatzorz =P #sarcasm

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Sally Bowls

I am surprised they can take time out from their personal vendetta against Bless in order to savage poor Sony. :-)

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A Dad Supreme

Now expect Xbox to announce something similar.

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Bryan Gregory

Consoles have become such a scam. It’s sad. I’m grateful that JRPGs have finally been making their way to PC, as I really dislike keeping up with both a PC and a console. You can just do a bajillion more things with a PC – and do them a bajillion times better too.

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A Dad Supreme

How are consoles a scam?

You pay $400 (new) or $300 (a year later) which is far cheaper than any computer or the components that you have to put into the computer as replacement. If your console burns out or blows up and it’s not under warranty, it’s easy enough to drop another $300 and get a new one.

You can take them places you can’t lug around a desktop and have minimal re-install times when you get there. There isn’t any need to download tons of additional mods just to get your game to work properly (like in ESO PC)

I love my computer but since the dearth of good, new MMOs over the last five to seven years, the PS4 has been a breath of fresh air when it comes to gaming especially lately.

As for keeping up with both, I find it actually easier. I bought Witcher 3 for PS4 because I have having issues with the mouse/keyboard control setup with Witcher 2 and other games so a controller simplifies it dummy-style.

Plus there are exclusives like Horizon: Zero Dawn/God of War that I simply couldn’t play on a PC. Got to wait a year afterwards: https://www.dsogaming.com/news/sonys-first-party-titles-officially-coming-to-the-pc-horizon-zero-dawn-in-q4-2018-god-of-war-in-2019/

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I find it weird for you to bring mods of all things as a bad PC aspect.
Not only do you not need them for ESO PC like in your example… but ESO with its base UI is absolutely horrendous, one of the worse in the entire market.
And you can’t do shit about that on consoles.
Yay…?

And pretty much everything like connecting to friends is far, far worse on consoles.
I mean for one, you pay every month just to play with them… and I wouldn’t exactly put the XBLive, PSNetwork or the shitshow that is the Switch online as reliable. Or fast.
Without even talking about overheating and the like, when the PS4 is notorious for choking on dust and taking off with its hidden jet engine.
The less we talk about the 360 the better, too.

The PS4 (or XBX or whatever) is a nice option but… they’re just more limited PCs now.
They come with their own issues, plenty of money making schemes that make lootboxes cute (nothing better than paying for the same service that is literally free on the non-Microsoft or Sony branded PC)…
But yeah they have some exclusives games; if a lot less than in the past. So do the PC ecosystem, by a factor of one hundred at least.
The link was an April’s fools BTW, those first party games ain’t gonna be on PC anytime soon (bar a Sega-like catastrophe on Sony’s part).

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Bryan Gregory

I’m not interested in paying $460 or whatever just to play Horizon: Zero Dawn. I hope you’re planning on listing more exclusives than that. And if it were available on PC it would run and look better. But it doesn’t matter, because PC has tons of exclusives, the difference is they don’t need to use that as a selling point.

I haven’t cared about lugging my hardware to other locations since I was teenager, so if you’re into that, you may be better off investing in a laptop.

I don’t do it myself, but many people buy new hardware once it comes out, sell their old hardware, and repeat the process every year or two. If you sell your old console every time a new one comes out, you lose access to all of your old games unless backwards compatibility is a feature. And when it’s not a feature, you have to re-purchase a game you’ve already paid for if you want to play it on your new console. I can play any computer game all the way back from the 1980’s right now on my PC if I wanted, at no additional cost.

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A Dad Supreme

I’m not interested in paying $460 or whatever just to play Horizon: Zero Dawn. I hope you’re planning on listing more exclusives than that.

Agreed. I wouldn’t pay that either. Because the list is so big, I’ll let you look at it yourself: https://gematsu.com/exclusives/ps4

Laptop gaming sucks worse than console gaming. Why on Earth would someone buy a gaming laptop, lol?

I’m not trying to talk you into buying a console, especially with a statement like “consoles are a scam”.

I’m simply pointing out to you why many people buy consoles and consider them far better alternatives (or additions) to PC gaming than the few bad reasons you were able to bring up in rebuttal.

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Armsbend

“Laptop gaming sucks worse than console gaming. Why on Earth would someone buy a gaming laptop, lol?”

My desktop is upsatirs and I have a much nicer tv downstairs. I use laptops to make an easy connection for games that don’t require as much as my main box.

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Sally Bowls

Hold on.

Laptop gaming sucks worse than console gaming. Why on Earth would someone buy a gaming laptop, lol?

I spend perhaps 100 days a year away from home. In ancient times, I once took desktop computers on airplanes for a tour. ugh! So while gaming laptops are inferior to desktops for the stay-at-home crowd, if the choices are not gaming, non-gaming laptop, gaming laptop, desktop, then I will be in the TSA-PRE line with a gaming laptop. There aren’t many problems you can just throw money at, but this is one.

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Armsbend

Here in ATL the pre-lines are longer than the regular ones.

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Sally Bowls

I live in a small town so no CLEAR for me. :-(

It was a shock when I left Atlanta and heard about these things called “connecting flights.”

Shoes, belt and laptops-still-in-bag still make PRE worth it for me.

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Bryan Gregory

Please explain to me how “Console Exclusive – Games released for a single console (or family of consoles) in addition to PC.” is exclusive? And look at how many of them fit into that category in the list… I don’t even. I mean even the FF7 remake is listed there. I guess it’s OK to claim a game is an exclusive as long as you wait a few years before releasing it on PC, right? Not to mention all these “exclusives” are playable via game streaming these days. And such a tiny list…

What’s wrong with laptop gaming?

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A Dad Supreme

What’s wrong with laptop gaming?

1. Screen too small for the money
2. Lifespan.
3. Price
4. Small, limited keyboard
5. Harder to work on/fix than my desktop

Bottom line: I have a PC. It’s great for when I want to play MMOs. It’s pretty good for when I want to play a game like Fallout and mod it. But overall, I have to sit at a desk and type or use the keyboard and the games recently haven’t been worth it MMO wise.

I have a console. It’s great for when I want to quick connect with friends or other players for games. It’s reliable, doesn’t overheat and requires no swap out/troubleshooting/upkeep of parts and I can sit on the couch and play it on a large television. I can play games I can’t on the PC, at least for a year or more many times, or never.

Between those, I wouldn’t need an expensive gaming laptop or even a decently priced one since I already have a PC.

I’d rather have a desktop, console and smartphone than desktop, phone, and laptop. I know that’s not for everyone though.

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Sally Bowls

YMMV: I’d rather have a gaming desktop, gaming laptop, tablet and smartphone. Although if I ever “need” to get a UHD Blu-ray player, I would get an XB X.

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Bryan Gregory

Laptops can be plugged into TVs… And bring your keyboard and mouse with you?

Not sure what part of PC gaming is stopping you from “quickly connecting with friends or other players.” And consoles are subject to the same exact overheating issues that PCs are – user error.

I can sit on the couch and use my computer on a large television (I haven’t owned a ‘monitor’ in nearly a decade), what’s wrong with yours?

You can play games on your console that you can’t play on your PC, but are oblivious to the vice versa?

Again, I think this is just more about a lack of knowledge than anything.

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A Dad Supreme

Again, I think this is just more about a lack of knowledge than anything.

I can’t stop you from thinking that, but it’s hardly the issue.

Let’s just chalk it up to preferences, and leave it at that. If you think consoles are a ‘scam’, it’s clear you weren’t going to be swayed from that position regardless.

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Bryan Gregory

Still trying to figure out why you’re trying to sway me in the first place. Shit’s weird. You already knew what my opinion was, and it’s one I have from experience, not one I made up without ever owning a console. And if you were going to successfully sway me, it sure as heck wouldn’t be with all the false information and lack of know-how you’ve provided. So I agree, let’s just leave it at that.

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Pepperzine

Im constantly dumping money into my PC to make it better and keep it up-to-date with latest hardware. My ps4, however, was a one time purchase. I don’t find it hard to keep up with both as the console doesn’t have any upgrades it needs and is self-sufficient.

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A Dad Supreme

Exactly. Just a new gaming mouse and keyboard can be expensive if it’s a good one. Most you ever go through on a console is a controller, which is about $40 each time.
When you download an MMO and something doesn’t work, you have to go and stalk forums to get a decent answer, and half the time it’s conflicting solutions. When you have a troubleshooting problem with PC games, it’s a toss-up:
A) A component is bad.. RAM, not enough power, computer gets too hot, dust, video card, drive went bad, etc.
B) Need other mods, updates, delete files, add files, get proper update from game, etc
C) Operator error… sometimes you’re just too stupid to figure out what’s wrong
D) Combination of A, B, C
E) All of A, B, C

Console is dummy-proof and cost effective, which at my advancing age is now becoming more and more desirable.

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Sally Bowls

I would add drivers, DLLs, need admin, … to B

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Bryan Gregory

Consoles have drivers, the difference is downloading and installing them isn’t a choice and can be done automatically, while you’re asleep if you wish.

Requiring admin is also completely up to you.

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A Dad Supreme

Consoles have drivers, the difference is downloading and installing them isn’t a choice…

Pretty sure that was Sally’s point, lol.
With console, you don’t have to replace them, update or do anything unlike PCs/laptops, so:

edge: console on this point.

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Bryan Gregory

On PC you can download updates whenever you want to, other than the rare times a new game launches and absolutely requires you update your video drivers first before allowing you to play (I can only think of a couple times this has happened). Consoles won’t even let you use your console or play games before you update. So, yes, you do have to. Again with the false information, dude. And it’s not like updating your PC is complicated.

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Mark

Honestly, I have more problems by far with my PS4 (games not loading, hanging, PS Store just failing to load after a while, etc.) than with my PC. I’m not saying you are incorrect, just giving my anecdotal experience.

Conversely, my Switch, on the same network, performs flawlessly.

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A Dad Supreme

This is true for some people. Of course, everyone’s mileage varies.

I’ve had a love/hate affair with MMOs and “updates” since Anarchy Online when you’re required to add files/delete files or some other facet that I feel is a programmer’s job (not mine) to get them to work.

You see on just about every MMO there are threads littered with that and fixes of that kind which gets kind of old game after game after game.

Sometimes it’s your mouse that’s “not compatible with a new fix” or whatever, other times it’s a certain card from a certain company and now you’re screwed, and often times it’s something that can’t be fixed on their end, they know it, but keep jerking people around for months.