Massively OP Podcast Episode 174: Fallout vs. Elder Scrolls

On this week’s show, Bree and Justin take tentative steps into the early reveals of E3 — including Fallout 76, Elder Scrolls Online, Anthem, and Final Fantasy XIV, all while dealing with a ton of updates and even an expansion launch. June is here, and we’re all gaming hard!

It’s the Massively OP Podcast, an action-packed hour of news, tales, opinions, and gamer emails! And remember, if you’d like to send in your own letter to the show, use the “Tips” button in the top-right corner of the site to do so.

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TomTurtle

Happy Belated Birthday Bree!

One thought I had about forums is that I’d like to see how viable it’d be to have moderators give an infractor a chance to edit their post to be constructive in an attempt to have them learn why their initial language was against the rules. One of Tina’s articles that mentioned moderation, as well as ArenaNet’s stance on forum moderation brought this to mind. The latter of which has been often criticized for being too harsh and not doing a good job informing players why they were infracted in the first place. It’s hearsay on my part, but it comes up often enough on the subreddit that I doubt it’s entirely made up.
At first I would say that would take up too much time, distracting moderators but then I stop to think, well, it’s their job to moderate. That is to say this would apply were it not for companies piling on more than moderation on these individuals, giving them more broader titles like community managers. I feel that companies should be employing full-time moderators and not half-assing it. When they don’t put in the effort of course the discourse will degrade into unhealthy territories.

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Bree Royce

Hmm, I am not convinced moderators’ job is to hand-hold people who don’t break the rules – to me, the actual job of the mods is to protect the rest of the community from those folks, not to impart basic life lessons to miscreants. If they do hand-hold, it’s a nice public service, but not one I think they are obligated to do. It’s an interesting thought, though, and I would like to see companies put more effort into dealing with toxicity on the whole – I’m going to work this into a TDG I think!

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TomTurtle

It’s a fine line to walk. I fully admit to not being an expert on moderation. It might be too optimistic of me.

I agree about wanting more effort put in. It can be a deal breaker when the really toxic attitudes get through without moderation, driving me away. Good moderation is why I continue to comment on MOP, and I’m thankful for your hard work on that matter.

I remember when both Joystiq and Massively were still a thing, and I initially avoided commenting on Joystiq because of their more lax moderation, but I felt more safe to comment on Massively. Later though Joystiq got better, really putting in the effort to moderate, and it felt like it was finally starting to become a good place to comment. And then it got shuttered. Sigh. It’s not always easy to find enjoyable discussion sites like this.

Another random thought I’ve had is as nice as the typical MMO forum format is, I’ve come to prefer the way Reddit or MOP nests comments. It’s a better organization format than dumping all thoughts into multiple web pages where discussions can easily get lost, and it’s harder to join in.

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agemyth 😩

Ahhh! You played Meadow! That game is a cute overload and refreshing little break from the objective driven nature and franticness of most other games and life. I’ve been trying to poke MJ (in a non-annoying way) into streaming that game for a while now. Tell me that is not such a MJ-friendly game.

Even if its just an hour of exploring what the simple game is, that hour would be memorable. Also, if you happen to get back in the game there is a map (more like a radar) you can open that can help you see in what direction some other animals may be. It is fun to run around with others and emote to try to explore and stick together. The game still receives content updates and patches even though it is almost 2 years old and only $3 with no microtransactions. The game has a very small but active player base.

Anyway, enough of that. Happy b-day Bree! Enjoy your voxel stone Lost foot.

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Bree Royce

I thought it was really sweet, especially once I figured out the communication and movement. I did figure out the map thing! I also managed to fall through the world and die, hehe! What I didn’t really figure out was how to sort of get into the plot – I gather there is a Myst-like quest, right? It’s not just squirrels chatting. MJ would love it!

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agemyth 😩

As far as I know, there is no explicit or implicit story in the game. A quick search of Meadow’s Steam forums seems to support that.

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On the other hand, there are also thousands of posts in those forums of players telling anecdotes and tales of the times they shared with each other. Here’s a pinned thread where players are just thanking the anonymous animals they recently had a good time with, and even reading about them is incredibly cute. It is a sandbox with basic systems that provide some sense of progression and encourage cooperation.

You probably noticed there are other games in this “universe”, but if not there are a few games with some kind of narrative, two “living books” that look like they could kill me with how cute they are, and a more traditional comic book.

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Amorey

Happy Birthday Bree Bree from a fellow June baby <3

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Celestia

Happy Birthday, Miss Bree! Thanks for another year of great MMO news and content!

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NeoWolf

Happy Birthday Bree, I hope you have a fantastic day and at least get to do some gaming during it lol

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Minimalistway

One more thing, Bree, let me tell you about my nephew, he is a good kid, honestly he is polite and kind and he didn’t learn that from his parents, some people are born kind, it depend also on culture, recently i read this article in NPR, kids want to be helpful:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/06/09/616928895/how-to-get-your-kids-to-do-chores-without-resenting-it

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Minimalistway

Happy birthday Bree ^_^

For Daybreak, i’m enjoying EQ2, not paying anything, i want to pay subscription but the situation makes me wary, so i’m waiting.

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dixa

there is no vs. here. 76 is more like ark and conan exiles than an actual mmorpg.

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Fervor Bliss

So Pokemon Go passed WoW a long time ago, So Black Desert Online has past WoW also? A quick search showed WoW with only 7 million players.

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Bree Royce

Nah. Pokemon Go is F2P and counting total registered players. BDO is B2P but frequently goes on sale for very little and is also counting global registered players total. I would be really surprised to hear BDO has more than a few hundred thousand users globally right now. Not that that’s a bad position to be in.

The last time WoW posted sub numbers was years and years ago; all Blizzard does now is post monthly active users across all its games (38M). We don’t actually know how many subs it has, but I suspect it’s still in the 5M-10M range based largely on the fact that it’s held really steady on revenue over the last few years.

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Tanek

Why be an Argonian? So I can have a fire sorcerer named Walks-In-Flame, that’s why.