Guild Wars 2’s latest patch includes bugs and a nasty exploit

This week’s Guild Wars 2 patch was delayed a week, but perhaps it needed yet another week still. Players on the official forums and Reddit are reporting a plethora of bugs and problems associated with the March 16th patch; one intrepid thread starter is making an effort at listing everything and checking it off as ArenaNet’s hotfixes address each one. Complaints range from broken guild chat to borky PvP voting and FPS drops. One Redditor reported that even reporting bugs is buggy.

At least one bug involved an exploit with the Hall of Monuments; it allowed players to cap out their Hall of Monuments with no effort, instantly acquiring the God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals title that should otherwise require a significant amount of work in classic Guild Wars to achieve. ArenaNet is on top of that one: “Believe me, the devs are aware of this issue and it has been and is being taken care of,” Gaile Gray posted.

It’s not all bad news, though: GW2 took home EGX Rezzed’s Game of the Show award for its Heart of Thorns demo, beating out Bloodborne, Gang Beasts, Titan Souls, Life is Strange, Beyond Eyes, Not a Hero, Ratz Instagib, Broforce, and Big Pharma in a vote by attendees.

[Source: Official forums, Reddit]
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Zebes
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plok If they made the stab changes to discourage big blobs then that is a damning statement of their WvW knowledge. 
To understand why the change favors large groups rather than smaller organized groups, it doesn’t take a whole lot of deep knowledge. It’s simple numbers.

The large group can throw out more CCs because they have more characters that can toss a CC. The amount of CCs the large group has will outnumber that at hand of the smaller 20 man group. The zerg can eat through the smaller, organized group’s stab. 

Stab is not equal between sizes.

Before, stab was equal between sides. Each side had to put down  a well placed boon strip to get stab removed. This was hard enough to do that many frontlines engaged with Immob instead of stun, so they could bring stuns in after Stab wore off. This made stability roughly even between large zergs and smaller organized groups. It even gave organized groups an advantage since they set up parties to best distribute stability, while a large, random zerg will have stability unevenly placed. 

Thus stability maintenance allowed organized raids to survive bad, large zergs. 

But even a bad large zerg can strip through stability now with CC spam.

Sylzer
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boots2 Sylzer i am not talking about pug zergs. I am talking about guild groups (20-25 people) fighting vs big blobs (50-70 people). You are playing in pug zerg, try to play with organized guild on ts, then we can talk again.

boots2
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Sylzer boots2 also I do not doubt that the rev will be OP at first. Once hundreds, maybe thousands of people start theorycrafting instead of tens of developers somebody somewhere will find an OP combination that the devs didn’t think of. But that’s fine, that’s what balance patches are for.

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Sylzer boots2 and you don’t seem to understand my point, a good driver will tell you to dodge, change direction etc so that you don’t get CCs or bombs dropped right on you. Fighting against similar numbers or fighting against larger groups has no impact on whether or not you can predict where and when the CCs will be dropped. It only impacts the amount of CC that will be dropped by the enemy group. I have followed good commanders and I have followed bad commanders, when I follow good commanders, stab or no stab I rarely get caught in CC or enemy bombs. The main reason being  they can anticipate it and give the zerg good directions to avoid it. Things like feints/fake pushes,  early warnings for changes in direction etc.  It’s the ones who don’t listen or are not on TS at all or have a slow reaction time that gets caught and that’s nothing to do with the game’s mechanic and is just about people being people.

With the changes to stab, commanders now need to up their game and soldiers also need to up their game. There will be less “Stabs up. Push on me. Push. Push. Push” and more battlefield tactics like feints.

Sylzer
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Sylzer

boots2 Sylzer Guess you did not understand. It is not about ” i want to stay in CC”, you get caught in AOE CC’s that are literally
dropped right on top of your head giving you no chance to avoid them and you can not leave from CC spike because you dont have stability anymore. When fighting vs similar numbers you can predict CC etc, but main problem is fighting vs groups which are much bigger than you ( 50 60 people), CC is everywhere, you can not avoid it. That is my point, it gives bigger groups advantage ( more dmg, more people, more AOE CC’s skills).

All these changes with stability are made for expansion, look how revenant will benefit from stability changes. He has aoe field which gives 6 sec of stability to 5 players around and it has only 5 sec cooldown. There are much more skills and traits.

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Sylzer why question to you is very simple. Why are you or your driver leading your group to stand in CC? A good driver can make an educated guess as to when and where the enemy will pop CC’s and react accordingly. A good zerg will follow the orders of a good driver. It’s all about playing smarter.

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2 nights ago, I was dropped from 3 PvP matches…into other PvP matches. In the middle of the match. 

Much cursing and wailing ensued. (I normally play Ranked, so when you’re ahead 350-100 and get dropped…it is infuriating.)

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Siphaed breetoplay paragonlostinspace melissamcdon I’m all fine with them being somewhat protective, especially with the abuses that can occur.  What I’m not fine with is that it’s so vague that I can’t figure out WHAT is triggering it or how to ensure I don’t trigger it again.  And that they won’t fix it, or haven’t yet.

It’s only $100.  It’s not a huge amount.  If it’s a fraudulent charge – guess what? Our credit card company will work with me to fix it too.  So while the merchant is good to have some blockades, this seems really ridiculous.

I know we came up on something like this before, I believe with TSW or Rift, but it was like a quick ticket and fix.  This is an ‘escalate, escalate, condescend, escalate, condescend and tell you you’re slowing us down when we ask for clarification on something vague and alarming.’  They seem to not care and see us as a bother.  Not trying to be all foot-stompy or entitled, but come on. 

Hey, I’m enjoying SWTOR.  I’ve got WoW as my back-up game (plus Rift or TSW).  I was intrigued by GW2 enough to try it again and buy it at the cheap price.  But I’m not going to get all bent.  If they don’t want my money, fine.  I won’t give it to them. My husband can play it when I’m on the road or something and we can use SWTOR as our couple time game.

While purchasing them on amazon is a workaround, I don’t believe in using a workaround for stupid reasons.  They have a gem store.  I want to use it.  They won’t let me.  Ergo – they must not want my business.  It’s up to my husband if he wants to keep playing and spend money on gems there.  I’m thinking I’ll just save my monthly gaming bucks for SWTOR’s cartel coins instead.  I’ll see how they eventually handle his tickets, and decide from there.

You know it’s an issue when you do a quick search and find lots of threads of “I want to give you my money, why won’t you let me!”  — something in their system is too sensitive obviously and they’re too slow in their response.  People can be impulse buyers and this definitely hampers that.  I mean hey, if he spends $100 in a game, then I start thinking, hrm, my turn!  And often do the same.  By giving me loads of time to think, I’ll go spend it elsewhere.

Sylzer
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Sylzer

Arktouros Sylzer Limiting CC would favors bigger groups again, so i dont think it is good idea. They must do something so stability wont disappear within one sec.

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breetoplay paragonlostinspace melissamcdon We run into crap like this to often, some MMOs released on amazon wouldn’t even let us buy more than 1 copy per amazon account ;(