John Smedley talks smack to nearly 25,000 banned H1Z1 players

    
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Call the WAAAAAMbulance.

Do you like people who cheat in online games? Daybreak president John Smedley does not. After 24,837 H1Z1 accounts were banned for cheating (7,000 of them esp hackers banned just in the in the last few days), Smedley took to Twitter to discuss exactly what he thinks about cheaters. In his own words: “You think we don’t know these cockroaches? We do. We are going to be relentless and public. Screw not provoking them.”

Smedley went on an extended rant about cheaters and the sites that cater to cheating programs last night and this morning, declaring that cheaters who truly want to apologize should make a public apology video and send it to him. “If we ban 30k and unban 20 for making videos that are seen by a lot of people, and they apologize, I’ll take it,” he wrote. But you’d better really mean it! “Please address your apology to fellow players, not us,” he stated. “Although you hurt our business this is about them not us.” He also announced a wipe coming on Thursday in order to “get rid of the banned people’s stuff” and “purge their existence.”

Smed’s retweeting the apology videos; we’ve embedded the first few below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtk7OZZ9nNY&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyUJGG9H-po&feature=youtu.be

Source: Twitter via Eurogamer
Update 2015-05-20 1:39:41 PM EDT: Smed has posted the following on Reddit in response to the public apologies he’s been tweeting:

I’ll give you my perspective. So far we’ve unbanned 3 people out of 30k we’ve now banned. One of which is probably about to get re-banned for taking his video private.
I want to make sure it’s clear there are consequences for cheating. You don’t just get to make a video and get unbanned. This is a very limited time thing to try and raise awareness of what’s actually going on. You may say “hey there clearly aren’t consequences if you are unbanning people”. Let’s get back to the part where I said we’ve unbanned 3 people. If these videos go far and wide and it elevates the importance of getting rid of the cheaters in PC gaming, I feel it’s an excellent trade.
Why?
Here’s why. These guys could easily go right back in, make a new steam account.. use an HWID hack and play anyways. Yes, that’s the reality. It’s ugly, but there it is. And it’s true for every single PC game out there. Even the ones that say it isn’t.
So is this the right move? I don’t know. But doing the same thing we have been doing is a tough fight and I’d like to at least try something different.
Video submissions end at Noon PST today anyways. Maybe by then it will be 4 or 5.
Smed

 

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Between Smedley’s own ineptitude and the DDOS attacks from hackers that he continues to bait, it’s just not a good idea to play any game Smed is associated with. He has a long history of being a dick with bad judgment that it’s just smart to avoid him.

cromahr
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Dobablo Ekphrasis I am not sure the comparison works. I am no history buff, but I doubt that, in the days of the stocks, you were told “You did something bad. Here is your punishment. Oh and there is a stocks over there. We will leave it up to you to put yourself in there.”

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Ekphrasis Lethality I know we probably will never get to agree if we start a discussion, but.. as I said in another comment, I really am not sure whether this is actually “public shaming”.
I think it would be public shaming if these people had made these videos for Smedley personally and sent them to him, asking him to watch them but noit share them. If he had shared them anyway, that wouldn’t have been right at all.

Also, he did not force them to do this. He left a door open. These are, apparently, adults or at least close to that. They got into the game, made a decision to cheat, were caught and banned. Smedley made an offer (which I don’t find very professional). But they MADE A DECISION to record themselves and upload the video on their YT-channel for the world to see.
They decided to do this. It’s not like some kinda H1Z1-dev-SWAT-team came to their house, forced them to say these things, taking the video to upload them. 
These people made their decision. They were not even guaranteed they’d get their accounts unbanned, as “if you want us to even consider…” isn’t saying “Post a video and we will unban you”. They decided to not accept the ban. For some reason, they are willing to expose themselves like this to get their account back.
I understand that they invested money and time into the game, but they broke the rules, and were caught. So they should live with that. To react this way to an offer that doesn’t seem to be a guarantee…well, it’s their decision. At least some of them look old enough to make a decision like that.

Let me be frank, I dont understand why they made these videos and uploaded them. I never have hacked in my life, and if I did, and was banned, I imagine I’d be much too ashamed or maybe not quite desperate enough to make a video of myself and post it on the internet. 

They could have accepted their punishment and let it be. They messed up and broke the rules. Smedley’s “offer”, imo, is quite unprofessional, I really don’t think that this is a very relaxed or professional response. But its not like he posted their irl names or pictures against their will. They chose to do this themselves.

Do they open themselves up to mean comments, bullying, whatever? Yes they do. But it’s not like anyone took their ID cards from them, waved them around and went “Hey guys, look, these guys cheated”. The tweet went “If you want us to even consider your apology a public YouTube apology is
necessary. No personal information please. Email me the link”
Their punishment was the ban. They didn’t want to let it rest, went for this (as I said, I don’t see anything like “If you post a video apology, we guarantee you will get your account back and keep it”) and they made this decision.

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ZenDadaist I agree that public shaming is bad. However, I think this is the wrong term for what is happening here. If Smedley would post the rl-names or even pictures of the guys (if that was possible) on the H1Z1 website or anywhere else, like some wall of shame or whatever, that’d be public shaming.
These guys, for a reason I really don’t understand, made these videos and uploaded them themselves. They were not exactly forced to do this. They are banned for cheating and/or breaking the TOS. That’s their punishment, and no shaming here. The fact that they react to this… offer by Smedley and actually record themselves and upload it to YT, well that is their decision.
I really don’t get why they’d do this, as I’d be much too ashamed, or maybe not desperate enough to want my account back after breaking the rules, but I never EVER would post a video like this. IMO, they weren’t forced. Smedley had this weird idea, but he didn’t record them and upload these videos against their will. 
And no, Im not defending Smedley, I find this whole thing pretty embarrassing and unprofessional, and if I was an H1Z1 player, I’d kinda feel weird seeing this. 

These guys made a decision to cheat, they were caught and got banned. They could have accepted that, but insteaf, they decide to go public. That’s a really bad idea IMO, but I guess they should know that.

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Malvious Ekphrasis “if you have nothing to hide, then privacy shouldnt ever be a concern of yours” is always such a goddamn stupid justification

LordOfBread
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LordOfBread

someone should put a small violin music piece under these videos.

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gt4980b

WildarX KenAddeh I think you can only buy the game through steam.

eLdritchMD
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Estranged eLdritchMD well it’s everyone’s decision to make of course but I do believe that our wishy washy treatment of delinquencies and small crimes is what leads some people to big time crime. I know I never gave a damn when I was a teenager and would break all the rules… Took some serious convincing by family and friends and getting kicked out of school to get me back on track. I never got into drugs but I’m pretty damn sure it can work the same way there.

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sonicblue31

I think it’s cool approach. Entertaining too.

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MikedotFoster

I’m very uncomfortable with this. Cheating is uncool and cheaty players deserve a ban, but there are long-ranging consequences to videos like this that aren’t always associated with games. It would be terrible to see someone harassed in real life or fired from their job for running aim hacks in a video game when a ban solves the problem just as well.