Hall drops Ion hints, says he worked on DayZ ‘longer than [he] intended’

    
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What exactly is Ion, the new sci-fi sandbox being developed by Dean Hall in collaboration with virtual world firm Improbable? We still don’t really know, though Hall did drop a few cryptic hints in a recent interview on the PC Gaming Show.

“It’s not Star Citizen, it’s not Elite, it’s not EVE,” he said, before elaborating about a third-person isometric setup akin to Diablo. “We’re sketching together regions and letting players have their own regions. It’s a 3D environment, but it’s not true isometric. There’s an offset camera,” he explained.

Hall also responded to accusations of abandoning his ultra-popular zombie sandbox mod for Arma 2. “It comes down to learning the lessons and I think that when I first came up with DayZ, it was an accident,” he said. “It was a mod I thought 50 people would play, but a lot of people played it. I didn’t have the resources [to develop it alone] so I sold it to Bohemia, and I stayed for a lot longer than I intended.”

And speaking of DayZ, current project lead Brian Hicks also visited the PC Gaming Show and said that single-player is in the works, as are more vehicles and repair resources.

Source: Polygon
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Bannex19 Lights_andMusic PizzaDoh eLdritchMD

He could have still ate without abandoning the project.  When people pay you to do something and you take the cash, you are supposed to stick around and work on it.

They voted with their wallets that they wanted to buy the game and have him continue to develop it and he made a contract with promises in exchange for that money.  They voted with their wallets, then he ran off with the money rather than fulfill the promises.

He knew how popular it was becoming when he decided to make a stand alone version and sell it.  He made the choice to start selling it for cash.  People bought it as something that was in development and that he was going to continue to work on and develop.

That’s great that you feel you’d be a sell out and screw everybody else as well but to many people that isn’t right to do.  This is a person who makes promises and then says “Screw it, I changed my mind.”  The thing is you can’t “change your mind” about promises, that just makes you a liar and a contract breaker.

Maybe the game is better off without him, that certainly is a possibility.  That doesn’t mean that it was right to do or that his silly excuses mean anything.  He was supposed to finish the game, not run off in alpha with the money people paid in advanced for a full version he was supposed to be making.  

He’s a d-bag in a world filled with d-bags so maybe that makes him normal but people at the very least should be able to voice their grievances with the situation.

And hopefully people *will* vote against his future projects with their wallets (which I do understand is what you meant) and not buy them.

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I didn’t play Day Z (I’m all zombied out), but while I think Ion looks interesting, I’m getting the sense from the comments that this developer has a serious credibility gap to overcome.

So, I’ll wait until Ion is finished , and on release, and then I’ll see what players have to say. Thanks for the heads-up MOp!

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Gnomeland Security ihatevnecks Bannex19 Lights_andMusic PizzaDoh eLdritchMD I mean by making a shit ton of money, still having a healthy and continual player base, and still patching in content on a monthly, if not weekly, basis :)
None of which needed Dean Hall there.

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ihatevnecks Bannex19 Lights_andMusic PizzaDoh eLdritchMD For a game that sold over 3 million copies and has been in an Alpha state since 2013 I’m not sure what you mean by it “is in a good place”.  You mean by making a shit ton of money and taking almost 2 years to leave an Alpha?

Even going by the *current* Steam price of $29.74 they have made upwards of $100 million.

Dean Hall talked about “leaving the industry” several times in the past and we all remember his hiking trip in which he vanished for months… He’s a part of that very exclusive club of douche bag designers who have put together quite the history of failing on not only promises to customers but also likely to people working / helping under him.

Even having his name associated with this “project” will hurt the firm he is working with.  He should have not been a coward an ran off with a bunch of money and finished the shit he started, failure or success.

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Bannex19 Lights_andMusic PizzaDoh eLdritchMD And it’s not like the game has somehow died because he left. I mean for fuck’s sake, it’s seen more forward development since Brian Hicks took over than it ever had under Dean.
People worship him because of what he accomplished on the mod, but the fact is the standalone is in a good place despite him, not because of him.

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Damonvile Lights_andMusic PizzaDoh eLdritchMD I agree, money isn’t everything and he made the right decision to leave

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Werewolf Finds Dragon 
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I can’t imagine it’ll be anything like Transistor. Hall just doesn’t have the imagination for it. I think it’ll be more ‘dry,’ it’ll try to be realistic and ignore how science theory and progression actually works, so it’ll be filled with the kinds of grating, ancient anachronisms that bother me so much. As I’ve said before, I like being cynical, it means that I can be pleasantly surprised. In this case though I think I’m right on the money, it’ll probably make less imaginative and educated people happy, though!
I loved Transistor, it was an experience. I think the only peculiar thing about it was the attachment to the human form, which I do understand but only after a fashion. I don’t think that developers realise how unsafe they can be when dealing with the kind of demographic that those games would target. The biggest anachronism in Transistor was the belief that by that point we wouldn’t be self-modifying. Even the Fallout 4 trailer hints at some fairly heavy body modification going on (which surprises me, but I suspect it’ll be downplayed as something negative and there won’t be any intelligent deathclaws).
Honestly, by the point of time that Transistor was set in, we’d have much more control over our physical forms and you’d probably be some kind of supremacist to stick with the form you were born into rather than at least experimenting somewhat. I suppose not everyone is brilliant, though, so the capacity to deal with the loss of the human form is one that many today still have a problem with. And if you’re looking to edge in some sales from people who’re attracted to the main character rather than the setting or the story? I get that. It’s still a shame, though, as it was a black mark on an otherwise genuinely compelling and flawless experience. Bit dystopian, too, but I get that as well.
At this point, I’m hoping for brain backups or decent cryogenics before I die. That way I can deadhead for a few centuries whilst humanity catches up. At least by that point fiction might be somewhat less anachronistic.
Though if I wake up in 3255 and sci-fi still has CRT televisions in it then a.) I wouldn’t actually be too surprised, and b.) I’d have lost all hope for humanity.
Facetious? Well, yes. Everything I say is, to a degree. I do try to stress that. My aim though is to get people thinking about things they otherwise wouldn’t. I want people to be more interesting, if people are more interesting then I — in turn — am allowed to experience more interesting entertainment. Completely selfish, yes. No desires to elevate humanity here at all. And of course, that’s a lie too. There’s nothing I want more than for people to just be more interesting for their own sake.

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I felt like I understood your point.

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Bannex19 Lights_andMusic PizzaDoh eLdritchMD Damonvile LULZ at everyone putting words in my mouth.  Where did I say he’s a bad guy? Someone please quote where I say I wouldn’t do the exact same thing?  

All I said was he didn’t just “stay for the gamers” he also stayed for that sweet, sweet cash.