The Daily Grind: What’s your worst MMO guild drama horror story?

    
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Guild Wars 2’s raiding guild drama earlier this week naturally made me think of guild drama I’ve experienced myself. I mean, if you’ve been playing MMOs in guilds long enough, you’ve probably seen everything that can go on in a group: screaming matches, cyberstalking, cybering, divorces over video games, spies, guild vault thieves, drunk deleting characters, that one time a kid faked his death for attention and we only figured it out when we contacted his family with sympathies… oh, yeah. Seen it all.

All of that makes the time I went off on a Ret Pally in Vent during a vanilla World of Warcraft raid for rolling on a tanking mace “for PvP” look pretty tame in the drama department.

What’s your worst MMO guild drama horror story?

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Skarasen Spacesquid
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Skarasen Spacesquid

Rustybladez I’ve occasionally accepted those random invites when starting out on a new realm…sometimes I’ve ended up in a fairly silent guild, occasionally I’ve ended up in a pretty good one.
I did once accept an invite from a guild with an interesting name full of consonants that I thought was Cthulhu-themed. It turns out they were all Finnish-speaking :)

AGx
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AGx

carson63000 That’s funny. I hate those kinds of people. I don’t see anything wrong with the term as I know if’s about gaming performance and not about….actual rape….but when other people are uncomfortable with those types of things, out of respect, I’ll at least not say it around them. There’s really no being right when what you’re doing is upsetting other people and you NOT doing it isn’t hurting you in any style, way, shape, or form. Dude was just an ass.

AGx
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AGx

My story goes back to FFXIV….

Because I hated playing with asshats…I mean the “elite” players, I decided to start my own FC and made it a point to recruit and only allow the recruitment of friendly players, those who were willing to learn content (not just watch videos or read about how to plow through content), teach others, and be able to handle the fact that there will be lots of wipes. We were a moderately successful group. We were able to finish all the content we tried. There were wipes but because we were like family, we had fun, took breaks and never took things to seriously. It was great. As ESO drew closer to release, I decided I wanted to take a break from the game as I knew I’d be switching with no plans on coming back. If I liked ESO, I wouldn’t play FFXIV anymore. I don’t play two MMOs at once. I gave up the leadership to a friend noting that I was just taking a break. I played it for a while (and liked it) but my PC couldn’t handle the PvP zone well so I gave it up. I played WoW for a while, drifted back to RIFT and even SWTOR to check out how the F2P transition went.

I eventually went back to FFXIV and reconnected with the LS. They never kicked me out but demoted me all the way down. Now, I didn’t go in looking to get my rank as leader back (though I did want it) but it never got that far. Most of the members that were there when I was running it were gone so a lot of people had no idea who I was. On top of that, the guild had done a 180 and went from being a moderately successful group of friendly casuals to a moderately successful group of hostile assha…erm, “elites”. For all their boasting and video watching, they weren’t very good. I wanted to get things back in order so when the leader finally came online after about a week, I started talking about being made a group leader to at least organize the runs. Well, no one wanted to hear about learning the content: “just watch a video, this sh** is easy”. It was only in the midst of these arguments that I mentioned being the one who started the FC in the first place and how we were better off before. Well, that’s when the trashing of casuals started and no matter how many times it was brought up how poorly these so called “elites” were performing, nothing could stop the storm. It didn’t help that the new leader had turned into one of them at some point. I guess being able to charge people fees and crap went to his head. At some point, I was even asked by some of the new officers if they were expected to “kiss my ass” just because I was the new leader.

Needless to say, that wasn’t something I wanted to be a part of anymore and I left.

MewmewGirl
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MewmewGirl

I used to have drama in numerous guilds because I don’t like swearing, sexual talk, the stupid immature language and things that so often get said over Guild Chat.  I rarely am in a guild that is free of such things.  Usually if there are a few people online that watch and keep people’s language in line, the guild line turns back to the nasty stupid stuff as soon as those people log out.

I have often wondered why “Mature Guild” means that they talk like immature children in a locker room who just discovered swearing and their genitals.

I usually just quietly quit now instead of causing much drama.  I’m not super touchy in that one or two things get said and I quit, I do give people multiple chances and am somewhat forgiving in some circumstances (like if someone is super drunk that night and it’s out of character) but mostly I don’t want to deal with what many Guild chat lines end up being so often.

There was a time when I caused some drama about it but as mentioned I mostly just quietly leave now instead.

progshine
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progshine

mbbrazen ohforfs Oh my, once I joined a guild like this (BF/GF leaders) and their raids were ‘oh my little bunny, taunt this guy here, he’s “huting” me’ and so on so on, I don’t mind if people do that in their own houses (hell I do this with my wife every now and then) but all the time and on Teamspeak? No thanks!
I left after one raid night.

progshine
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progshine

Well, of course I have one, and of course it’s WoW related…
(Sorry, it’s a long tale)
LK was the main expansion for me, I started in the end of BC (and left on the middle of Cataclism) but LK was my main game, really. I was leveling my Warrior tank (my main and only) and I knew a good healer, we became friends and we started doing dungeons together when I got to cap lvl.
After a few weeks she told that her guild was re-grouping so they could start Icecrown Citadel as the second tank. I was so excited, I had done a few pugs for the other raids but this was for real.
So I joined the guild, they had a bunch of people, they were friendly and some people where helping me to run dungeons in group so I could get the last few dungeon drops (and tokens) I needed). The main tank was much better geared than me (also a warrior) and his build was for bosses (I liked the frenzy of hundreds of mobs) so his was the main, I was the mobs and adds tank, I was fine and happy with that.
A few weeks passed and we formed the 25m group and started Icecrown, that was really great and people told me I was doing a good job for a first time raid tank. So we went on. We killed the first boss and were trying the second when the guild leader, who was out of the game for some reason I don’t remember, comes back. Being a tank (a paladin) he decided (without playing with the group) that he would be the main tank and drop the third one. I was still the tank for the mobs and adds (which is an important tank on a raid) so I was still happy. I wanted the group to progress so I decided to take care of the fish feast (because no one else ever had the mats). I was happy to help.
Then things started to go, weird. This guild leader eventually started changing the whole group that started really well and he added more and more of his friends (well, I didn’t know that at the beginning) and the group actually reached a good status on the server so we had a lot of people in the line for the group, because of that this guild leader decided to swap players for certain fights.
When we got to Deathbringer Saurfang they told me: well, for this fight we don’t really need 3 tanks but we need for the next, we’re better geared than you so we need you to DPS on this fight. I told them right away that my DPS gear was not good because I wanted to focus on tank gear amd that I was Arms (back in LK Arms was not a good dps spec), they told me to try anyway. So we tried this fight for quite a while and even not having good gear and being a spec that wasn’t a good fit I wasn’t the last one in dps. That’s when things started to get really weird. They started to complain (mainly the guild leader) that my dps was too low for the fight. So I did more dungeons, got better gear and even changed to Fury (a playstyle I don’t like), all for the sake of the group. I got in the middle of dps and no one could complain. And yet, the leader told me: for this fight you cannot take tokens because gear and tokens go to main specs and you’re not playing main here. And I was like: because you asked me to! Still…. (I know, looking back I was so naive, but it was my first real guild and my firs raid experience, I didn’t want to get kicked.)
We went on, as the raid progressed I became the best geared tank, one of the tanks left, another pally was added. The raid leader was a bad tank, really, taunting everything all the time out of the other tanks, failling to move out of pools and easy traps, etc. But still we had a decent group and managed to go on and on till the LK. In my opinion he grew jealous, because me and the other tank were quite good (we went on to form our own 10m ICC and beat it before his 10m group) and I felt it throught other fights more and more. Specially when people would go on and say ‘great save there man’ and stuff like that through raid chat. Well, we did a couple of weeks the Lich King fight till he decided we needed a change (even though we were REALLY close to kill it because by then we had learned the fight and it was all a matter of time). So he decided we needed two tanks only and he put the second tank to do 2 jobs at the same time (he didn’t take this responsability, I wonder why) and… he put me out of the group. No one else, only me. Me the guy that was there since day one of the group, even before him, the guy that by that time could tank AND dps very well. Everyone else from the beginning of that group was there, not me. That night they killed LK…
He knew it was a matter of time, we had the fight, and yet he pulled me off the kill. I didn’t say a word, everyone was happy. After 30 minutes or so, everyone was in the chat talking yet so I said I was about to say something, he asked me to go to a private channel and I say no, everyone has to hear this. So I spoke my mind off, telling every detail.
And when I said I was leaving he said but you can kill him with us next week…. that wasn’t the point!
I left and in the course of the next week a bunch more of people left too. I went on to get into another guild and kill LK the very next week. I knew I was a good tank, I knew I had spots in good guilds.
Well, my vengeance was to know that when Cataclism hit the guild was in half, according to my friends that were still there, because he was doing a `great` job managing it. I’ve heard he went on to re-roll to Rogue (because on Cataclism Palladins were not the OP anymore) and change to Horde…
Well, that was my drama, sorry for the book :D

paragonlostinspace
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paragonlostinspace

breetoplay paragonlostinspace Odious personalities are…odious! :)

BryanCo
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BryanCo

Estranged  Filthy Perverts is a pretty good term of endearment for guildies, too.

breetoplay
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breetoplay

paragonlostinspace Truthfully, the loot wasn’t really the issue. It was just the catalyst of the betrayal, the realization that our alliance wasn’t a golden thing like I thought it was and that the other guild had some real pieces of shit who were just going along to squeeze what they could from us, long-term friendship be damned. He had a really DGAF attitude about the whole ordeal, which just made me madder. We never raided with them again, and most of us quit to go play City of Villains not long after that, so silver lining I guess. :P

Estranged
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Estranged

I’ve been diplomatic concerning this subject for months and months. One can go to the devil’s advocate well, one too many times.
But yeah, I made the mistake of not saying “yes ma’am, give me another”…