SWG-inspired sandbox Divergence Online is now on Steam early access

If you’ve been waiting over the last week for Valve to approve Divergence Online for its inevitable Steam early access release, wait no longer: It’s finally live today. The game is currently $29.99 US, 25% off its usual $39.99 price. Wrote the team,

We’ve been online less than an hour and already making dozens of new friends. You guys are just the best! Thanks for your support and expect another 3-8 new patches tonight with fixes and improvements.

The game is known best to our community for its blatant Star Wars Galaxies influences, its hardcore sandbox vibe, and its community-inspired goal to implement a consensual PvP server. Stained Glass Llama’s Ethan Casner downplayed concerns over the game’s seeming use of SWG assets, telling us he welcomes rather than fears Disney’s attention because he’s “miles away from any legitimate infraction.” He also made headlines this week by ranting against so-called “gaming yelp reviewer bullshit.” Reviews on the early access launch are so far “mixed.”

Source: Steam. Thanks, Sethman!
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Vada_G

Yep, it’s pretty sad.   Now they are removing entire threads, such as a four-pager titled “Hostile Devs”     New folks won’t be warned and can’t get a sense of the immature replies.

Hopefully they are smart enough to get in a negative review before they get their refund.

toomanywowclones
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A Message from the Creator:

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970733188
 [developer]

8 hours ago 

Why does everyone keep assuming they know “what every developer
wants”. Because if you think “what we want” is to sell a lot of copies,
you’re more or less proving with your own words that you, in fact,
don’t.
You don’t even understand what it is you’re saying is the
thing, because the statement you’re making is “If you want to attract
players like me,” but that’s just the thing. We don’t. To be blunt,
you’re fickle, touchy, and easily offended.
Why, oh why, would
anyone who makes anything, choose to attract more customers who spend
less money than fewer customers who spend more when the universal
constant is going to be the necessity of supporting everyone you sell
that product to.
No thanks. The people who buy this game don’t
buy it for $30, and neither do they expect us to either hold their hands
or wipe their ♥♥♥ for them. They come in at $30, walk around, then
march right off to our web store and spend another $250 because they
recognize this specific game for the truth of what it is; The closest
thing to true freedom and a real experience you’re going to find out
there and a project that is worth investing in.
They invest in us
and thus we invest in them. Completely. When I log into the game as
myself and say “Ok, who’s having issues today?” 50 people shout my name
at me, as they do our other two GMs. If someone was hostile to you in
this game, you have a very, very thin skin, and the symptom of that
character fault, like the others who have made the same complaint, is
the need, not desire, but need to tell everyone else in the world how
wronged and mistreated you were.
The game does not try to take
weak people and make them stronger. The game is meant to be a home for
people already strong in their own various ways who want to be among
their own kind. It does that completely.
For that goal, I am
prepared to suffer the indignities of negative reviews and expectations
of the lowest common denominator for the sake of having the project
better today than it was yesterday.
Not everyone is like you. 
Source: http://steamcommunity.com/app/422940/discussions/0/451850468369714744/#c451850468370868078

Vada_G
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Vada_G

It feels like they’re being forced to make this game given the comments by this developer (Shakkles) and Ethan himself. Why would I give a company that is this hostile towards perspective consumers any funding? If you treat your customers this way, I could inspect as an investor that my treatment would be a sugar coated version of the same. 

I understand being upset when you produce a product and you’ve had people stepping on your dream the whole way and have had no help getting over other obstacles, but at some point ‘you’ have to make sure that ‘you’ aren’t becoming a problem when the jaded thoughts set in. It’s not that it’s not offered that sits poorly with me, it’s the way the response was given. 

Just say “Not really our niche, we are aiming at open world pvp, consensual pvp may or may not be in the future depending on the success of the project.” BAM, no cause for foul and even adds an inducement for others to pull together support. As much as I want to tell customers to “f off” sometimes, there are much better ways to do it. Instead of flat out saying you don’t want a consumer’s money?!?

Please guys, get a marketer, a PR person, anything. Get someone to handle your community and give yourselves a chance at success. You only have so many feet to shoot.

Disclosure: I am a customer having supported this during the fund raising phase. I am also an investor who declined this project due to my personal discomfort with legal risks involved.

Liandreth
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Liandreth

For anyone wondering about the consensual pvp server. A few of us were asking about it and here’s what the dev said last night, in regards to it – 
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970733188  [developer] 9 hours ago Originally posted by http://steamcommunity.com/app/422940/discussions/0/451850468365432286/#c451850468367195529:Yep, I’ve chimed in on the topic in another thread. Currently having no options but non-consentual open world pvp is the only thing keeping me from diving in.
Shakkles, why would those who wanted consensual PvP fund the game if there was no concrete plan they they would get a game they enjoyed? If it never happened, they’re out the cost.
Those who want consensual PVP should not fund this game.
Can I say that any clearer?
Please do not buy this game if you want consensual PVP.
We don’t want your money, your complaints, your headache and ultimately your refund.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/422940/discussions/0/451850468365432286/#p2

Ceois
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Ceois

Liandreth Ceois Thanks! I will remove the game from my watchlist. He seems indeed rather cocky. Well good luck to him and the rest of 10 followers that he has.

Liandreth
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Liandreth

Ceois Me too, but according to the dev on steam – 
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970733188  [developer] 9 hours ago Originally posted by http://steamcommunity.com/app/422940/discussions/0/451850468365432286/#c451850468367195529:Yep, I’ve chimed in on the topic in another thread. Currently having no options but non-consentual open world pvp is the only thing keeping me from diving in.
Shakkles, why would those who wanted consensual PvP fund the game if there was no concrete plan they they would get a game they enjoyed? If it never happened, they’re out the cost.Those who want consensual PVP should not fund this game.
Can I say that any clearer?
Please do not buy this game if you want consensual PVP.
We don’t want your money, your complaints, your headache and ultimately your refund.
Gonna be taking this off my watch list.

Skyewauker
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Valhalla Awaits Disney doesn’t own the assets.  They are non Star Wars assets. Sure there are things like “Tera Kasi” and some of the mineral names, but thats it for Star Wars.  
Disney isn’t a concern.  DBG is though.  I purchased the game on steam, downloaded and hopped in.  They didn’t just rip off art assets.  They ripped off the sound assets too.  Opening menus?  Yep, stolen from SWG.  The “error” sounds when you hit a key too much, yep SWG.  Its pathetic.  I refunded with the quickness and won’t look at this game again.

amkosh
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amkosh

I liked SWG.  But I don’t have a lot of want to play it again now.  It would be pretty annoying in many many ways.

Robb760
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Robb760

You know what would be really funny is if this game was just a fancy bitcoin miner lol.

Apollymi
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Apollymi

Sorenthaz TheDonDude The wording on that “consensual” server is misleading.  The way I read it was that you could craft/heal/entertain unmolested but anybody with a combat profession was fair game.  I’m gonna wait and see with this one.