RIFT addresses paywall controversy, explains F2P finances

The recent decision by Trion Worlds to set up what many see as a gear-related paywall in RIFT certainly has cause quite the discussion this week. The studio hasn’t been ignoring the controversy, but unleashed Director of Community Relations Linda “Brasse” Carlson on the forums to lay out the case for Trion’s balancing of its need to finance operations versus its desire to provide as much as possible for free.

RIFT is not dying, not by a long shot. What is happening now is a shift in how we ask for support to keep the game healthy and moving in the right direction,” Carlson wrote, going on to state that only a small percentage (seven to 15%) of players subscribe or purchase items from the cash shop. She said that she wished the studio had rolled in the new changes more gradually but didn’t apologize for the company’s need to make bank.

“It’s not a choice based on greed,” she wrote. “It’s a choice based on the reality of running a business, ANY business, be it retail, service, or even non-profit venture.”

On a separate thread, Carlson defended RIFT’s inclusion of lockboxes, saying that they were on par with opening packs in trading card games like Hearthstone. “Lockboxes work because they allow for the element of surprise and anticipation, which humans (and Dwarves) love. Endless reams of data support the fact that people enjoy being surprised, and will support lockboxes far more than buying individual items on the store.”

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draylynn
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TheGremmel Well, I suppose Archeage had to try and recover it’s cash somehow after such a bad start;
– Account database leaked. Accounts were locked for protection. Monkey support system confirmed users and accidentally IP banned legit players whilst removing the protection… then failed to remove the bans properly for weeks on end.
– Accounts are still going ‘walkies’.
– Exploits, hacks (a lot of economy/game breaking bugs) that were present in Beta, were reported repeatedly and are STILL present in game (something seen in their other titles too), rather than holding off release and actually fixing them like game developers used to do to make the game ‘fit for purpose’.
And instead of fixing the core issues, they decide to exploit the players for more money for an otherwise, broken game. It’s dishonest, quite frankly disgusting and not a single one of these companies will have my wallet any longer or sympathy, you reap what you sow.

BD isn’t much better, cash shop compensation, rather than fixing core issues… not to mention the game practically plays itself, it’s more point/click boredom.

Miss the good ol’ days of MMO’ing where you could pick up a game, play it and not worry about your account, or hackers exploiting the servers or having to pay real money just to keep up with other players, you know, the time before blizzard sold their soul towards the end of WOTLK.

F2P cash shop model doesn’t work, it’s destructive to the game, it’s destructive to players.

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SallyBowls1 Dixa Right on. I feel like paying for gaming time in the form of a subscription is the biggest ripoff there is. I really don’t mind paying and I’ll pay for games in 3 ways: pay up front, pay for content, pay for life. Asking me to pay, as an adult, for the one commodity I don’t have much of? Ridiculous. Subscriptions take advantage of way more psychological tricks than any lockbox does. Plus, you could ignore a lockbox, you can’t ignore a sub.

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BriarGrey Malthesia paragonlostinspace Mark Jacobs A Dad Supreme Thanks so much for the suggestions! :) Hopefully she finds some of her friends from the Ice Age. :)

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Malthesia paragonlostinspace Mark Jacobs A Dad Supreme Oh and also GS4’s public page – https://www.facebook.com/GemStone-IV-60194690885/?fref=ts  can probably find people by comments and such there too!

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Malthesia paragonlostinspace Mark Jacobs A Dad Supreme Hey, the wife in question here ;)  There is a group on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/groups/gs4life/  It’s a closed group, so I think when you go to it, you just ask to join or something?  I read it from time to time.  Also, the PC forums are, I believe, still in operation, but I was never much of a presence there. 
The FB group would be my recommendation – there are about 700+ members, and there’s bound to be people who knew her and who know others who she may be looking for, for example – and from there you can friend them or message them, etc.  I’ll say I rarely even look at the group itself, but I found lots of people through it that I had missed :)

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Malthesia paragonlostinspace Mark Jacobs A Dad Supreme   I’ll forward this onto the wife. Not sure if there is a GS list or something on Facebook.  :)

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Malthesia

paragonlostinspace Malthesia Mark Jacobs A Dad Supreme Heheh..I hear you about being spread to thin at that particular place in time. Never mind the cost! :) Another reason why I love the pricing nowadays. I don’t think twice about paying subscription fees to 2-3 games that I really enjoy. Of course, finding time in the day to play them all is another matter…

My wife has been trying to get in touch with her old GSIII friends recently and hasn’t had much luck. I wonder if my wife and your wife have any friends in common…

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Malthesia paragonlostinspace Mark Jacobs A Dad Supreme Thanks, its an addiction or so I tell the wife. Though I think I’d better make this one last for a few years or my wife will disown me. :) 

I recall when LoFP came out, I was so deeply committed at the time and DragonRealms when that came out that I was worried about spreading myself too thin and not getting anywhere. Always had to keep that sort of thing in mind due to playing with hourly charges in those days.  I felt I was spread too thin as it was due to also playing Multi-Player Battletech 3025 as well on GEnie.

 My wife keeps more in touch with the old GS crowd than I do these days. Mostly through Facebook, something I don’t care to really use. Plus she was staff with Simu for some years. She just passes on messages from them to me and visa versa these days. :)

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Malthesia

paragonlostinspace Malthesia Mark Jacobs A Dad Supreme Congrats on the new ride! :)

And, yeah, definitely a small world. My wife and I went on to work on a game called Legends of Future Past after we left GSIII.  Some of the people we met there are still friends 20 years later.

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Malthesia paragonlostinspace Mark Jacobs A Dad Supreme  Oh yeah I recall her name, I think her surname/name was Wayfinder. Yup there still is a street named after her priest. The Kelfour’s Edition/Chronicles of Kulthea recall correctly was the name of the paper. Louvella Parsnips always amused in the paper. Loved reading it, really miss the community.

Sorry for taking a day to reply. I went in for a service of my 2015 Softail Deluxe and had been grumbling about getting onto a touring motorcycle and well six hours later ended up leaving with a brand new Road Glide Special. lol Been busy since yesterday getting it all adjusted, set up and broken in. 

 Anyhow, gotta love how small our gaming world can be. :)