Carbine cracks down on WildStar Primal Matrix exploiters


Let this post serve as another reminder that cheating is bad, and if the game is too hard or time-consuming for you to win at, the solution is to get good or walk away, not cheat your way to victory with sub-Tonya Harding levels of guile, as my dear colleague Eliot put it.

Apparently, Carbine has cracked down on WildStar players who took advantage of a pair of economy exploits that essentially let them zip through the Primal Matrix alternate advancement system introduced to the game earlier this year. Both permanent bans and suspensions have been reported.

While forumgoers are concerned that Carbine has banned too many endgame guilds and players for the game to remain healthy, Reddit is, shall we say, completely unsympathetic to the plight of the banned and is singing them right on off stage, though of course the thread is full of people claiming they’re innocent and were wrongly banned. A few folks who’ve copped to the exploit basically say they were sick of grinding and cheated to get it over with, knowingly taking on the risk of getting caught.


Source: Official forums, Reddit. Thanks, Mike!

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While I don’t go in for the grind your eyeballs out lemming style game design almost all mmos ascribe to anymore, the people playing them don’t really have an excuse for cheating the system if they get caught. You knew the rules going in, you got caught, that’s how the cookie crumbles.

Now whether or not you want to argue if the cheating these particular folks did had any kind of negative impact on the game is an entirely other story, however that’s not how the TOS is usually written, and even if your cheating impacts exactly 0% of other players in a negative way, you’re still risking a ban for said actions so if you can’t handle the heat don’t step in the kitchen.


“… forumgoers are concerned that Carbine has banned too many endgame guilds and players for the game to remain healthy,..”
Begged question, party of you.

Danny Smith

And when does the other shoe drop and they realised they just kicked like a double figure percentage of all their raiders? :p

Because this was the game for teh hardcores right? cheat and get banned, now THAT is an attainment to get around.

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How many people are we talking, here?

Robert Mann

Yeah, sympathy? Right… you can have it once you can show you weren’t cheating, because I guarantee you the GMs who banned you have done everything possible to cover their own backsides at their jobs by getting the evidence, but occasionally sure, a mistake happens. So grab your session logs.

Until then, I’m going with them as just more ‘gimme!’ players who are the type that go to flash game sites with a program that cheats the scoring so they can epeen. Goodbye to that type, and don’t let the ban-hammer hit you on the way out. We wouldn’t want it to get contaminated!

*I don’t play Wildstar, but if it was up my alley I’d have renewed interest off news like this!*

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Yeah, it’s a bit of a tough spot. They probably just banned like, half their active raiders out of Europe with this.

But necessary, screw people who exploit knowingly and then try to justify it with total BS excuses like this (Primal Matrix is for Prime content, it’s not remotely required for raiding which was done successfully long before the Matrix was introduced). Games are better off without those types of folks.

Guess they weren’t HARDCORE enough for the longterm grind : P

Also, that’s a pretty perfect picture for this news story…and a lot of news stories from Carbine : /


It’s HARDCORE, *cupcake.