Anthem compares itself to Star Wars and Marvel movies

    
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When BioWare’s newest IP finally arrives on your computer screen next year, don’t expect a hard sci-fi approach in the vein of Mass Effect but rather something with more general, blockbuster appeal.

“[Anthem] is in a genre we call science-fantasy,” said BioWare General Manager Aaryn Flynn in an interview with CBC, “very much like Star Wars, very much like the Marvel Universe, where you see a lot of amazing things happening, but we don’t worry too much about why they’re happening, or how they’re happening, the science of it.”

Flynn said that he hopes families will enjoy playing Anthem together as a cooperative experience. “This game is much more about having fun in a game world that is lush and exotic and sucks you right in,” he said. Anthem is the first new IP for BioWare since 2009.

Source: CBC, VG247
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Richard de Leon III

I really do hope they dont make the same mistake Destiny did by partitioning the lore and practical lack of an open world gameplay.

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Sray

So, while speaking to a mainstream news outlet, to a mostly uninformed and non-gaming audience, Aaryn Flynn used well known cultural touchstones to describe genre; and the responders in this thread lose their shit over it? Get a grip folks: he “compared” Anthem to Star Wars and Marvel in the same way that the cast of Game of Thrones were “comparing” the show to Lord of the Rings seven years ago during interviews.

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Alex Willis

I agree. It’s the CBC. Its audience is decidedly in the “lay” category.

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thirtymil

The only real similarity between Game of Thrones and Lord of the Rings was Sean Bean’s survival rate.

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Schmidt.Capela

I don’t mind they describing Anthem as Sci-Fantasy, but…

“very much like Star Wars, very much like the Marvel Universe, where you see a lot of amazing things happening, but we don’t worry too much about why they’re happening, or how they’re happening, the science of it.”

This doesn’t sound like a description of Sci-Fantasy. Rather, it sounds like a description of badly written Sci-Fi where the author never bothers figuring how things work in the scenario being created.

BTW, I don’t quite consider the Marvel universe to be Sci-Fantasy. It’s more of a kitchen sink setting, where anything even marginally cool exists; in the Avengers alone, as seen in the Cinematic Universe, you have a super-spy, a special agent that has in the past been written as a thief-turned-hero, an old-fashioned super soldier, an iron-clad gadgeteer, a super-scientist that transforms into a radioactive monster, and a god.

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Sray

Marvel and DC superheroes -superheroes in general actually- are the most post-modern and American fantasy genre: a juggernaut that can absorb any type of other sub-genre into itself, and allow seemingly contradictory elements co-exist. You’re very right to call it a “kitchen sink” genre.

But I feel “science fantasy” as a label works for superheroes and Star Wars: it’s saying the fantastic things going on aren’t magical, but it’s just not getting into the exact science of what is going on. The Marvel movies have established on multiple occasions that what is going on isn’t magic, but just unexplained scientific phenomena; and that was the case even in Doctor Strange.

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khrome

I find it rather interesting that Bioware implies that it considers Mass Effect 2 and 3 as ‘hard science fiction’.

WTF

If that is hard SF, how worried should we be about Anthem’s internal logic? This feels like an excuse to completely and utterly ignore logic in the lore and story of the game, and to come up with ridiculous explanations for whether or how something works.

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Karetyr

I wouldn’t read too much into it. This sounds more like general PR than any real thematic revelation.

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rafael12104

So, maybe it’s because I just watched the Noclip vids detailing the launch and rebirth of FFXIV, but SE sure does put EA/Bioware in sharp relief.

Yeah, yeah, I hear you out there saying I’m being overly dramatic, irrelevant etc. etc. But, IMO, it is totally relevant. Why? Because Bioware has sullied their own reputation and is doing very little to restore trust. Instead of mending fences, they are off talking about “science fantasy” and comparing Anthem to Star Wars or Marvel.

Lol. I too scoff in their general direction.

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Jack Kerras

I feel like you can make statements like ‘we don’t do hard scifi, we do sci-fi without tons of real scientific underpinning’ by saying that you’re doing it like Star Wars does it. It’s recognizable, fantastical, and fits within the (incredibly over-broad) sci-fi continuum, but it’s decidedly different from something like Gravity or Life, which tries to be at least a tad truthy while it’s being science-fictiony.

I don’t think this equates with slyly saying ‘we’re in the same boat as Star Wars’, I think that’s something a developer said by way of a widely-recognizable example.

People ascribe a lot of shitty behavior to folks who just -say stuff because it’s true-; the total bullshit re: cover-your-ass Community Manager-variety statements are nonsense, and saying something honest like ‘Oh, we’re not going for anything crunchy, we like lightsabers a lot more than thoroughly-researched Alcubierre drives and time-debt and NAFAS travel with cryofugue’ is a totally fucking acceptable thing that developers should be able to do without everyone saying OOH THEY THINK THEY’RE THE NEW STAR WARS

Come on. Every time someone says any words, the whole community just tears their shit apart, which is why you get bullshit content-free platitudes all the time.

Take it easy, wouldja? Jesus H. Christ.

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rafael12104

I hear you, but it isn’t about the words IMO. Let me put it this way, if MEA had been a blockbuster success the words would have the exact opposite effect as fanboys and fangirls would declare a new genre as developed by Bioware.

However, in this case, given Biowares recent history, people are ready to pounce on the slightest detail and derail.

Context. Context. Context. I myself won’t be giving them a pass on this either.

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Tarka Roshe

“Science Fantasy”…..but you’re not actually going to give any explanation on the science……. really?

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Jack Kerras

Sure! Which is actually super okay as long as it’s internally consistent.

Why don’t trees fall down when you punch them out in Minecraft?! IT RUINS MY IMMERSION! >:C bad game 0/10

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Jay Power

I think a better name for their concept of science -fantasy is science-less fantasy. Lazy, greedy, careless buttheads the lot of them.

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hurbster

Like I’m going to trust Bioware again after their last shitshow.

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Necromonger

Bioware ruined their name, their reputation, their franchise……

Before i buy i will see a very good deal of inbiased youtubers who can still revieuw games without bullshit.

Mass Effect Andromeda could have been goty but it was a mess and thats a serious underderstatement.

So lets see if they still have magic or they ahve lost it all.