Star Citizen Caterpillar sales resume, particle system explained

    
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In this week’s episode of Around the Verse, Star Citizen’s Chris Roberts and Sandi Gardiner cap off another round of developer updates on the crowdfunded MMO. The Austin team checks in with news on the pricing structure for the gameworld, mission rewards, hub NPCs, mission givers, and the carry system. The Turbulent team also outlines progress on the Spectrum communication software, and there’s a behind-the-scenes segment on visual effects — they’re going to some wild extremes to make sure that engine trails look right in atmo.

Most importantly? “Along with the bartender we are also getting the useable for the bar stool up and running. Once this is done a player will be able to go and sit at a bar stool and order a drink,” Producer Jake Ross says.

Meanwhile, CIG has a flash sale running this weekend for subscribers, once again offering the Caterpillar for purchase until Monday, as well as a new Q&A on the Nox, which was the last ship up for sale. Check out the whole episode down below.

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deekay_plus
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so apparently the big controversy this week that’s everyone above and below are missing is that they previewed ship engine trails and fans hate becuase ‘muh realism’

i think these must be the same people who think the CE physics is actually at all realistic or ever was.

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*Plays white rabbit in one tab, stares at the gif in the other*

o.o.. Fear and Loathing in Star Vegas. Place your bets!

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roo woods

Sale of ships and an optional subscription for an unreleased game . This just gets more shocking all the time .

Out of interest is there a team working on the game called “The Turbulent team” or is that a reference to the turbulent development of Star Citizen itself ?

If I was someone who had invested in this game given controversy surrounding it I would want the companies finances to be made more transparent so as I could see where the money is being spent and more importantly how much is left .

It strikes me there might be some very suspicious practices going on at CIG .

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McGuffn

Its not just the sale of ships or a subscription. What got me is that you need the subscription to buy the ship in the first place.

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You don’t need a subscription to buy a ship. Instead, subscribers get rotating discounts on ships. There is a difference, as subtle as it may be.

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nope this is literally a subscriber only limited time sale. not the first one either.

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Joe Blobers

All ships were available for sale at concept stage then regularly once or twice a year for everybody. Except few very specific ship not sold anymore, I bet an aurora that Caterpillar will available to purchase to eveyone between now and end of 2018 :)

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ichi sakari

The ships are offered as rewards for supporting game development, so that sort of implies the game is still in development.

I’m glad to see these weekly glimpses into where the money is being spent, they help me track progress with the added bonus that MOP reports on it, which brings out all of these over the top ‘concerns’ about what’s going on over at CIG.

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Roger Melly

More openness about the state of their finances wouldn’t go amiss and it would put the “over the top concerns” to rest .

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Joe Blobers

They did. Chris Roberts CEO said: “Situation is healthy” and they hired 40 more guys.
The day you understand companies (including crowfunded) do not have to provide finance, you will be able to focus on ATV’s content rather than repeating the same wording from article to article.
Companies does not share finance. End of the story :)

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Roger Melly

Whatever !

You are one of the usual suspects who defends the practices of CIG no matter what in these forums so its not point having and sort of discussion with you because you always will twist what ever is written .

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Darkwalker75 .

And we can say exactly the same about you on the opposite side.

Just because people are offering an opposing viewpoint and don’t agree with you how things should or should not be done, does not mean there is a conspiracy or they are defending CIG no matter what.

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Roger Melly

Another usual suspect and I wont be drawn into a conversation with you for the same reasons .

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Darkwalker75 .

If you don’t want to listen that’s fine by me.

Just don’t expect people to take you seriously with that kind of comments and attitude or me to stop presenting opposing viewpoints to yours.

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Darkwalker75 .

Contrary to popular belief in some circles, more openness about their finances would not be a good solution.

There is no guarantee it would put those “over the top concerns” as you call them to rest.
And even if it would, it’s fare more likely you get the very same people with their “concerns” to pick apart any financial statements.

You would have people like DS come in and use whatever information they give out to further their agenda by trying to tell people how that is proof that the money is somehow being misappropriated.

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Roger, let’s be realistic here, no it wouldn’t “put the over the top concerns to rest”.
Why? Because no matter how much CIG showed, the trolls would still bitch and moan with conspiracy theories that not everything is being shown.

In all likelihood, the only time when such individuals would be satisfied is IF CIG suddenly announced bankruptcy and said that they were no longer working on SC/SQ42.

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Joe Blobers

Roo Woods… taking over the last week “loan to bank owning CIG”? :) controversy/suspicious practices… same wording of a couple of guys but different alts… :)

Keep trying man. There is nothing suscpicious except your copy/paste acitivities of we know who :)
Everything is under control. Between last December and now, CIG did hired +40 guys… clearly they are seeing the end of their healthy funds right in August and decide to accelerate spending? :)

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Roger Melly

Whatever :)

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June in game highlights (no commentary)

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I was reading some of the press around this, and I’m sure I’m late to the party, but is it really true they have a subscription fee before the game is released?

I’m not one of the people who thinks it’s vaporware, I don’t want the game to fail, I have a basic package… but that seems to be about the most blatant money grab I have ever heard.

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primal

It’s not a fee to access the game it’s to help them fund all the shows like ATV and that and you get some stuff in return like UEC and try out a select ship every month then of course anything left over from whatever they spend it on goes into the development fund

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edangerous

Yes, they have a $10 or £20 optional subscription fee. It used to be quite benign but then they added early build access to subscribers and you know what people are like about getting access before others.

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primal

early build access what are you on about? they dont get it any quicker than anyone else. the only people that get the builds the earliest are evocati and thats got nothing to do with subscriptions thats dependent on how many bugs you find and report. even then its not like they get builds every month

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edangerous

Yes they do. I swear we have been over this before.

Subscribers get access to the PTU far earlier than non-subscribing backers. If you subscribe you can get in on the first wave of a PTU build, loads of people were subbing to do this when 2.0 rolled around and I’m sure loads will do it again when 3.0 arrives.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/search?q=subscriber+ptu&restrict_sr=on

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primal

oh ok so instead of waiting potentially a few days to a week you get in a bit quicker. wow…. well its not that big of a deal. besides i suppose they are paying the download cost so why not. downloading isnt free and would cost CIG upto a few $/£ for the download

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edangerous

All depends, some of the early builds have a couple of weeks or more before all backers are able to join.

The point though is that CIG do indeed sell early access via their subscription option.

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primal

and does that upset you in some way?

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Roger Melly

With the kind of money they have raised the question is why if their finances are in good order they need to sell early access thru a subscription option once they have sold an early access package . It really seems to be milking the people who have invested in it already . Any other game and any other developer most people would be uproar about such a practice but for some reason Star Citizen gets a pass .

Maybe because the usual suspects harass and troll anyone who dares to question what is going on .

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primal

early access, you mean a queue jump. all i see is the same people complaining about stuff. end of the day dishing out those updates to people costs alot of money, so why not give an incentive to offset those costs?

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Roger Melly

Because selling subscriptions to an unreleased game is very damaging to CIG’s company image in the wider gaming public outside of the cocoon of its fan base . Its just bad PR however you look at it .

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primal

no its not do you know why? cus no one really cares. i think you lot seem to think millions of people are passing judgement, when there not. if you look in the comments section of those articles you will mostly find the same people in there, the trolls hating on the game and defenders. there are people who wander in who arent part of that crowd but ultimately no ones really bothered and they wont care till closer to release likely when it has a gold release date when they are properly thinking about picking the game up.

now then as for the people who already have access to the game, thats upto them to decide whether there bothered or not but i dunno if the majority would be. guaranteeing first wave access doesnt really seem plausible if theres ALOT because they want to roll it out to see how it handles X amount of players. if 100,000 people do the subscription thing thats far to many for a first wave test especially with so many changes to the engine tech in 3. so theyd likely still be split into a few waves

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Joe Blobers

Roger Melly, it is damaging your own understanding of what an Alpha must be (care to share your CEO vision in similar game crowfunded situation?).

Leave the fan or not fan base alone. People at large are not reading ours comments or do not care about CIG subscription which is widely unknown to gaming public :)

They will jump in massively when SQ42 Chapter 1 will be released and a bunch of them after SC 3.0 in August… after they got positive words from their friends or saw a video on youtube or one of the many sites on internet providing shorts news or articles :)

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Joe Blobers

Roger Melly, CIG to have Finance in good order as you say, splited costs for game development and marketing/communication.

Hence that give an opportunity to those looking to support the project to do it another way than buying ships. You should be happy of that, no? :)

So subscriber=early access. is it your new crusade? :) Do you realize that many game do have closed or open Alpha/Beta.

Nothing to do with pre-purchase done by EA or Ubisoft to download a 99.99% fully finished game days or weeks before others players. Good luck trying to compare the later with what CIG is doing… :)

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edangerous said:

Yes, they have a $10 or £20 optional subscription fee. It used to be quite benign but then they added early build access to subscribers and you know what people are like about getting access before others.

Leave it to someone with the handle ‘edangerous” to spread misinformation about Star Citizen:

There is no subscription required for SC. In fact the Subscriber money doesn’t even go toward the game development. It’s used exclusively to produce their weekly shows like “Around the Verse”, “Bugsmashers”, etc – is is the game’s Marketing budget

In return:
– Subscribers get perks like a new piece of cosmetic flair to display in their hangar each month.

-They get a ship to ‘test fly’ each month in the PU.

– They occasionally get access to Subscriber Ship sales [like the current Subscriber Sale for the Catepiller]

They DON’T get early access to any preview builds. The people that do get early access to builds are called “Evocatti” <— And they are selected fromn the group of ALL SC backers based on the quality and frequency of their reports to the SC "Issue Council" bug report system – which helps the SC Dev team find and fix major bugs before a build sees a wider release. It's a job most rank and file Backers probably wouldn't want/enjoy because it's really NOT 'playing the game' as the build they get a REALLY unstable and bugged; and they're often asked to do specific mundane things like attempting to spawn a ship over and over; KNOWING it will rest in an error/crash; but it will provide Devs with the info logs needed to better track down and fix such a bug before a build goes to a wider group on the PU server.

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did you even read his post? and i like how your claims contradict joe blober’s when it comes to earlier access. XD

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Joe Blobers

Deekay_Plus, thanks to care about what Armsman and I are sharing as ours own opinion based or not based on latest uptodate information.

Ours both comments are more complementary than contradictory but can be further explained.

I did not mention Evocati (my bad) Armsman did. He did not mention the information about subscribers receiving since mid-2016 invitation to PTU after Evocati finished their own test tasks. I did mention it but should have precised this is not an early built… as Evocati only are receiving the early built. Subscribers and very soon after backers (this is important to take note that several wave of backers do receive also invitation) do receive a built which is very close to the final one.

Well that is what comments section are for: exchange information to provide a close to accurate picture of a project.

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And black is white the sky is green yes means no.

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Joe Blobers

Thanks Deekay_Plus for such educated comments. the more we go, the less you are able to find the right words to hide your hater behavior… :) Remove scam, vaporware and con and as a sudden comments become much shorter and out of context.

Readers are going to appreciate for sure. Please keep going, your help is much appreciated :)

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deekay_plus

yeah such hater comments! XDDDDDDDDDD

commenting on your ability to deflect legitimate concerns and criticism is not hating the game. no matter how you spin it.

and no matter what you believe no one is buying yall’s bullshit on this site. the least of which is the fact that yall are here for one purpose only even.

i mean do you even see yourself? no you don’t. and that’s the sad part.

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Joe Blobers

Whatever :)

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Joe Blobers

Blazing Coconut for information, subscription is absolutely NOT mandatory.
CIG is not paying for advertising so all cash is used to develop the game, subscribers pay to make weekly ATV (check on youtube or on CIG site), events twice a yearlike Gamescom and Citizencon.

As a “reward” they got for free monthly flairs they can place in hangar like this one (https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15948-June-2947-Subscriber-Flair). Flairs can be purchased by none subscribers to support the game if they do not want to buy more ships.

Also subscribers got a monthly digital publication “Jump Point”. They have also the opportunity to buy new concept ship a day before others bakers (ships are technically the same but can have a cosmetic “something” like color or sticker) or ticket for events before others.
You can also be on the first wave on PTU (test server for new patch). PTU stay on test around 1 to 3 weeks depending on patch size. SO unless you enjoy having trouble testing Alpha… that is not a plus but more to give an hands to devs.

This is really another to support the game. Nothing weird :)

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deekay_plus

it is actually incredibly weird and unusual lmao.

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zeko_rena

Then don’t subscribe, it’s pretty simple

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deekay_plus

idk how saying it’s weird as shit relates to not subbing?

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Joe Blobers

Well your call deekay_Plus.

I search hard on internet to find some explaination about the weirdness size of CIG offering multiple options to fund this project and beside the practices of EA or Ubisoft selling an almost finished game days or weeks prior to mass sales, which is not the case of CIG, I see no negativity of CIG behavior regarding subscriber paying to support marketing….

If you think having a free monthly flairs or possibility to buy stuff one day before backers is weird… well the other option is to… sale even more ships to compensate :)

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Yuri Geinish

And of course they sell more jpegs.

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silverlock

You know they have free weekends now and then where you can actually play the game and fly these jpegs right?

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McSleaz

Soooooo, you’re telling me that every ship they sell has been fully completed and is in-game?……….

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ichi sakari

that’s absurd, he was telling the OP about free fly weekends, its a bit of a stretch to pretend he was implying every ship is flight ready

but you knew that

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McSleaz

“where you can actually play the game and fly these jpegs “

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primal

The first person said and of course they sell more jpegs referring to the caterpillar but its flyable in the game so its not a “jpeg” is it

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Joe Blobers

By the way we were able to flight this +100 meters jpeg in a 3 D space, walk inside it, open doors, fire weapon :) Scared to use vaporware or scam? :)

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Godnaz

When the game launches, Yuri Geinish is going to be like

And of course they sell more jpegs.

He loves him some post bait :)

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Ah, particle effects. I know when I tweak the graphics settings on my games, if I’m unable to just play at max (Elitists need not comment), I’ll lower everything else so long as my particle effects stay at max.

I’m perfectly willing to play with graphical stick figures so long as the fireball they toss look spectacular.

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silverlock

I’m not like this at all but it makes me happy for some reason that others are. I hope you build your characters around maximum light show too.

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Joe Blobers

Beside the Network code which have currently an impact in PU, my 3 years old I5 x 4 cores and GTX 780 is working perfectly fine with a 2560×1440 monitor (not even Gsync or whatever)