Star Citizen’s 3.0 alpha appears to have been delayed yet again

    
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Ever wonder whether developers regret transparency? With Star Citizen, probably not so much when the money keeps coming anyway, even when the game’s 3.0 alpha and persistent universe continue being delayed.

In April, CIG estimated 3.0 for this summer, achieved mainly by pushing off many of its features to later in the year. Earlier this month, we found out that 3.0 would be delayed into August following a month in Evocati testing. And this week’s production schedule report suggests it’ll be even further delayed.

“This week, we entered the optimization, polish and bug fixing phase for the 3.0 feature set,” says CIG. “As there have been so many features and content implemented, we’ve encountered some stability issues that we want to address before going to a wider test audience. The ongoing work on the new Patcher system (that will save you from having to completely re-download each build) and some new bugs with CopyBuild3 (our internal version of the patcher) have also slowed us down. Because of this we have pushed back the Evocati and subsequent date ranges to reflect the additional time needed to get Star Citizen Alpha 3.0 ready for prime time.”

Redditors keeping track of changes in the production schedule have pointed out out that major systems (mission givers, inventory system, entity owner manager, the UI) received either no updates this week or delays, in some cases up to an additional three weeks, putting Evocati testing at least that far out and the actual patch even further than that. Speculation over Gamescom and CitizenCon causing further delays isn’t unwarranted.

“There isn’t a lot interesting happening,” the Redditor who monitors the schedule, KJ3Farden, notes. “All delays observed are replicates of the 3.0.0 delays, and no task has been completed this week. One thing to observe is that none of the tasks that aren’t in the 3.0.0 schedule were delayed since the start of the Global Progress Watch. This probably means that there isn’t any overview from CIG on what’s out of 3.0.0 (at least on the schedule we’re given), and tasks that are marked as completed may not actually be.”

A Reddit thread complaining about what it characterizes as an eight-month delay and accusing Chris Roberts of knowingly lying about the game’s progress has over a thousand upvotes so far. “Meltdown” wouldn’t be an unfair word, but something tells me we’ll be right back here on repeat in another two weeks.

Source: Official site. Cheers, Cotic.

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Mr_Planthead

I’m trying to remember the last article I read where someone wrote what appears to be an entire book in the comments section defending a game. Or where developers who seem to have their own games to worry about come in to comment and seem to know stalker-like facts like how many viewers someones getting on their streams.

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dsnart

As the local and GREAT GAME DEVELOPER of our time. I would like to point out Delays are part of Game design.
-But these Blog post are just as silly as the content in them. Making something more then what it is to gain traction. When can we expect to get Creditable Neutral blog post? the hyper Inflation bias from this writer is spewing over **into the post.** (edit: Into their posts)

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Space Captain Zor

Let’s remember to keep these 3 things in proper perspective and used appropriately:
Opinions

a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Assertions

a confident and forceful statement of fact or belief.

Facts

a thing that is indisputably the case.

It’s easy to lose sight of the important differences between the 3

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German Avila

Great…DSmart ruined space games and now massively.

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primal

he hasnt ruined space games because hes never put out anything relevant to ruin the genre

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dsnart

@primal has a point. Let’s take a look at the facts here. FORM THOSE who game keys weren’t stolen back by him for leaving bad reviews. let’s scroll down and look for ourselves shall we?
(Line of Defense Steam page)

https://steamcommunity.com/app/266620

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Joe Blobers

Dsnart thanks for pointing out facts about the other guy. However I would suggest to avoid to link anything to his “game” or even name it… because this is exactly what he is looking for and why he was kicked out of CIG.

Leave Last Outrageous Disaster in his oblivion. that does not deserve any king of advertising, direct or indirect. No need to inflict such “experience” to players… and to give 19$ not refundable to a guy with such toxic behavior toward PC Community at large :)

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Yangers

It’s gotta be a meme at this point.

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J

Never saw that one coming… /s

HA!

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Kevin McCaughey

Quel surprise.

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styopa

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Utakata

You could try posting those from you hard drive instead if 3rd party hosts are giving you flack. :)

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styopa

Yeah, I saw that, but for some reason I wasn’t able to edit/delete, so I flagged for mods to purge but I guess they haven’t done it. :|
So I look like a dope.
Isn’t the first, nor, I’m sure, the last.

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Utakata

I personally don’t think you look dope over this. Rather the site in question tripped you up on the way to the comedy podium. :(

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Darkwalker75 .

Is it just me or is it not showing the images for others as well?

All I see is an image with saying “Please update your account to enable 3rd party hosting” apparently from photobucket.

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styopa

Nah, you’re seeing it correctly; when I posted I saw that and it wouldn’t let me edit/delete. :|

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Darkwalker75 .

Is that an issue with Photobucket or something?
I have seen it on other sites as well which is why I ask.

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styopa

Yeah, I was surprised because I found it on giphy, which was a direct link to photobucket which SHOULD be impossible…but when I linked it, it failed.
Bizarre.
DIAF photobucket.

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primal

i usually use postimg

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Brother Maynard

CIG need to hire a professional PR / communication manager or team. The number of PR hiccups they’ve been producing over the past couple of years is becoming embarassing.

They keep relying on ‘Chris as a one-of-us starry-eyed enthusiastic CEO’ whose all too frequent blunders are basically supposed to be endearing and immediately forgotten. That worked up to a certain point. That point was around 3 years ago.

I know it all started as an indie project, but at this time this aspect is probably the last amateurish part of the whole project, which in all other characteristics joined the big league a long time ago. It’s probably too hard for CR, but he just needs to let go…

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Armsbend

Money would be better spent hiring a top level project manager. One who can effectively communicate between teams. PR falls into place if your project remains on schedule.

I think you are simply suggesting someone who is better at complete bullshit than Roberts.

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shear

Wouldn’t change anything though, CR is on top, he is the boss, so what he says goes regardless of who is managing the project. You need somebody above him and there is simply no one above him in the company.

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Godnaz

Let’s be real though, his brother Erin was the driving force to get this thing going. The project almost failed in 2014 and he came in , took over project management and saved Star Citizen.

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primal

what saved star citizen was crytek not paying there employees for 6 months and CIG picking up the crytek guys. they were struggling because it was hard for them to find lots of people with intimate knowledge of the engine. if crytek guys didnt come on board i think the project would of failed 1-2 years ago. or they may of just scrapped star citizen and just focused on squadron 42

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dsmart

what saved star citizen was crytek not paying there employees for 6 months and CIG picking up the crytek guys. they were struggling because it was hard for them to find lots of people with intimate knowledge of the engine. if crytek guys didnt come on board i think the project would of failed 1-2 years ago. or they may of just scrapped star citizen and just focused on squadron 42

Yet still no game.

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primal

and they wouldnt have gotten anywhere close to this far without them

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Brother Maynard

Crytek’s troubles helped CIG a lot, but I wouldn’t say the project would have failed without them. From the beginning Frankfurt’s focus was on cleaning up whatever FPS mess CIG got back from Illfonic and then on the planetary and procedural tech. Without them it would have come years later, but the game itself was not going to fail because of that one aspect.

CIG had a lot of CryEngine expertise even before Crytek engineers joined. From the beginning Paul Reindell was a key person in the whole project, including setting up the first SC demo for Kickstarter – he’s still CIG’s lead engineer as far as I know; and the Tracy brothers also came from Crytek (Sean Tracy’s previous job was basically Crytek’s US representative (they called his job Cryevangelist) – Sean and Dan even published a few books on CryEngine, they should still be available on Amazon. Even before Crytek engineers came on board, CIG had up to 14 graphics engineers with expert knowledge of the engine.

Personally, I would say the lion’s share of returning the project back on track lies with the F42 UK studio. After that, making Erin CIG’s global head of production made complete sense.

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primal

no they didnt they were struggling to find people. Frankfurt was made because the crytek guys wanted to stay in germany and could work remotely so they set up an office.

All the FPS was CIGs fault actually because they didnt set any standardised measurements for things like doors so they were totally wrong and then they werent using the latest builds and stuff so it had to be brought in house.

They didnt get any real traction on the engine rewrites till frankfurt got up and running and only then did things start to progress alot quicker. Reindell was there from the start but so what, the engineering work involved was far to much.

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dsmart

Let’s be real though, his brother Erin was the driving force to get this thing going. The project almost failed in 2014 and he came in , took over project management and saved Star Citizen.

He hasn’t “saved” anything, except the ill-gotten gains from backer money. The project is still a dumpster fire and unmitigated disaster. Basically it’s now Freelance 2.0 – and EVERYONE in the industry is talking.

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shear

I really would love to see what devs think about this whole SC thing. They have to be talking about it, just sadly not publically.
I think it’s important to note, that I do not, infact, hate SC. I want a game like that badly, it’s every sci fi nerds wet dream as I have described it many times. That’s what CiG is praying on, it very obvious. I haven’t given them a dime though because the “dream” portion of that description is very important. I think.

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mike foster

Devs have about the same range of mindsets as anyone else.

Some folks are optimistic/hopeful, some think the whole thing is a disaster, some are wait-and-see folks who hope it works out for the studio and its backers. Many ARE backers.

Devs are just like anyone else so I’d be skeptical of anyone trying to paint the picture of “talk in the industry.” The only devs who might have a unique perspective are those who worked with Chris Roberts in the past — but history has already shown us what that can be like at best (Wing Commander) and at worst (Freelancer).

I will say that generally in the industry people want others to succeed. It’s great to watch a team with challenges get over the hurdles and launch something sick, and it sucks to watch people you probably know or worked with before lose their jobs on a bad launch/project.

At the end of the day none of it really matters anyway. CIG will either deliver, at some point, or they won’t. Everything between now and then is just speculation.

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agemyth ?

Are you trying to tell us that devs are just people too? Lies!

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mike foster

I will say that I’m INFINITELY curious about SC. CIG’s LA studio is across the street from Riot and sometimes I walk by it hoping to catch a peek at something. Never do, though :(

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Joe Blobers

Quote Shear:”They have to be talking about it, just sadly not publically.”

You mean like anyone talking endlessly after work about his job between friends and relatives… if only we had anon sources. That will help for sure non-hater as you describe yourself obligently Shear.

By “CIG praying on”, you mean I guess workers not violating NDA rules and there satisfaction to work in such great company with a project supported by +700.000 backers and upcoming patch demonstrating seamless landing from space to planet?

I agree with you Shear. That would be so great!

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Joe Blobers

Quote:”and EVERYONE in the industry is talking.”

… you mean you and the two guys you hired to never finish the “never ending early access kicked out of Steam? :)

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dsmart

Exactly. He is accountable to noone. And that’s why the project is now doomed.

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Armsbend

It’s true but is he surrendered himself to the the PM guy it could work. Having worn a REALLY bad project management hat in my past I know how extremely difficult the job can be in software. Managing a 400 person + team takes an absolute pro who knows what he is doing.

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oldandgrumpy

Duct tape for Chris would be cheaper and more effective :)

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dsmart

They have David Swofford. He’s an industry veteran. But being a close friend of Chris Roberts from back in the day, means that he’s just the shill machine, rather than the voice of reason. Which is a shame because David is a stand up kinda guy, though imo still complicit in this whole mess.

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Joe Blobers

Quote DS:”They have David Swofford. He’s an industry veteran. But being a close friend of Chris Roberts from back in the day, means that he’s just the shill machine;;; though imo still complicit in this whole mess”

Damned this section is very informative!

Today we discover that a very talented person: David Swofford, a stand up kinda guy, an industry veteran.. become a puppet of CR… by which miracle or curse we do not know.
No better… he is an accomplice of a Scam (flagged by you DS as such still few days ago).

Technically speaking, does it fall in the Free Internet act description of an opinion or a libel? Who care DS right… You never say it and what you say has been diverted of your original statement.
Another one of your proven none-attack behavior against CR right? :)