EVE Online thieves produce propaganda music video, auction off ill-gotten gains

    
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If betrayals, heists, coups d’état, and threats aren’t enough to pique your interest in EVE Online’s metagame, maybe memes will do the trick.

As PCGN points out, EVE Online players are rushing to fill the vacuum left by last week’s theft of in-game property worth $20,000 (and subsequent banning by CCP of one of the victims for issuing multiple real-life threats to maim the perpetrator). Indeed, the winning cohort, if you want to call any of this “winning,” has now produced a taunting propaganda video set to Johnny Cash’s God’s Gonna Cut You Down and begun auctioning off some of the in-game property its members stole. I’d link to the pun thread as well, but as of press time, there are racist comments in it, so suffice it to say that EVE’s Reddit community has squeezed every imaginable hand- and mittens-related pun out of the whole mess.

Massively OP’s Brendan “Nyphur” Drain, who’s been covering the EVE universe for over a decade, has written extensively on this topic over the last week, discussing the particulars of this arm of the war, the fallout over the real-life threat, and most recently, the shift in what’s considered acceptable toxicity inside the game since its launch in 2003.

Source: YouTube via PCGN
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styopa

The song’s a decent cover.

The video is pretty damned disappointing, considering how creative people can be and how downright beautiful EVE is.

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Schmidt.Capela

One more reason to stay well away from EVE.

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Bryan Turner

It’s stuff like this that propagates the impression that Eve is a toxic Cesspool full of Sociopaths and future subjects for an episode of Criminal Minds.

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styopa

You wrote “propagates the impression”. Did you mean to say “reveals”?
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Bryan Turner

could be, I’m not a linguist.

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Hravik

Its stuff like this that just makes me avoid open PvP games like the plague. Eve seems to be the worst of the bunch, at least for big splash stories where lots of people get screwed over, but it is a general theme of toxic communities in every open PvP game I’ve ever attempted to tolerate.

Always makes me sad when I see new games on the horizon that has some cool ideas, and then I see the open world PvP bullet point.

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Stephen Goyette

I’m so torn on how to feel about events like this. On one hand, look at every open world pvp game out there. It’s many people’s goal to kill and take everything they can from the less geared, skilled, play time etc. On the other hand it’s one of the only games that offers mechanics to take others down through espionage, dirty tactics and other ways that don’t involve fighting.

The ONLY reason that it makes so much noise is that we have tangible result of what it does in real world money standards. If any one thinks that MMO’s out there that involve pvp don’t have such toxic communities then you’re naive. Dig up old Wow stories, BDO, LoL. All have terrible people in them but we all forget them since they are less memorable.

This comes from a casual ex Eve player, so not a fanboy supporting it.

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JP Andrews

And once again Eve fulfills it’s calling a shit hole for sociopaths. The fact that people out there continue to defend this cesspool is amazing to me. Maybe I should be grateful that the most worthless bags of skin in gaming have a place to be that’s not my game.

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Ket Viliano

The is actually a lot of fun, depending on what you do with it.

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Chris Walker

I’ve played EVE for over 10 years and never encountered the people involved in this scandal. I don’t think I’ve come even close. EVE is a huge game with an immense amount of freedom — if you don’t want to encounter “sociopaths”, don’t hang out in the back alleys of space and you’ll be just fine.

I’ve seen just as many bad apples in other games, so EVE doesn’t stand out to me in that regard at all.

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JP Andrews

I’ve been ganked in High Sec space, a lot. I’ve been jumped at wormholes, a lot. I’ve been suicide ganked while mining, a lot. I’ve had corps sold out from under me, disbanded and turn over to other corps. So has everyone who’s ever placed that game, and you know it.

Everytime Eve makes the news it is for crap like this. Taunts, bullying, “Let’s get that guy to kill himself,” theft, and treachery. The work of hundreds, if not thousands of people flushed down the crapper by one guy at the top. Over and over it’s the same story, and every time there’s someone like you who says “oh no, it’s not really like that.” Well that’s crap. That game, your game, has one of the most toxic communities in gaming today, and you’d have to be willfully ignorant not to know that.

Eve doesn’t have just a few bad apples, Eve is being run by the bad apple.

And yeah, there are toxic communities in other games, but the studios that run those games try to discourage it, unlike CCP, who has spent a decade encouraging it’s player base to be as big a bunch of asshats as they can be, and once they are big enough asshats they put them on the Stellar Council to make sure they serve as an example of how it’s done.

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Schmidt.Capela

I’ve seen just as many bad apples in other games, so EVE doesn’t stand out to me in that regard at all.

The difference is that in most other games the “bad apples” can’t screw you over. In each and every MMO I play I can just ignore any obnoxious player, unilaterally removing from that player the capability to influence me in any way, so the “bad apples” don’t reduce my enjoyment of the game.

Or, in other words, it’s not that EVE has more “bad” players; instead, EVE enables those “bad” players to have a much more detrimental effect on the game for everyone else.

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zeko_rena

The few EVE Online players I know who post on here me included never post such horrible accusations of people from other games… so…….

Unless this is a troll post in which case well played :P

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JP Andrews

I’m not trolling you, I’m reacting to the news. I stopped playing Eve years ago when I realized that CCP had no interest in a civil society. It was a sad day too, because it could have been a glorious game if the developers had done anything at all to insure that the average player could enjoy it.

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zeko_rena

I am not sure what you would consider the average player?

Despite the fact that I have been playing on and off for a very long time I consider myself a very average player.

I avoid PVP like the plague, and focus on mission running and mining / industry, I run a little two man corp, just me and an alt as I am not active enough to properly support other players.

In the past five years (I don’t remember prior to the last five as I was in null way back in the day) I have had a gank attempt on my mining barge once (which failed as I tank them like a maniac)

In the past five years I have also had one war dec on my corporation, however this happened prior to the free to play move and my account was inactive at the time.

What had happened was a corporation of French players had EVE mailed me asking if we could come to an agreement on a price for me to remove my inactive POS at a moon.

After I had not responded for a month they simply did a war dec, blew up the POS and then closed the war dec, I was impressed they waited a full month.

This news also happened between two massive alliances out in null sec space so has no effect on the average player in high sec what so ever, high security space really is quite civil.

Well as long as you avoid Jita Local chat hahahaha, if you read that your IQ drops in real time.

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Mewmew

This video is a massive troll taunting everybody who got hurt and punished even more. Did you really need to embed this?

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Mr Poolaty

I’m calling on the SWEET LEAF to help… You should make a meme that’s says
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Bryan Turner

Referring to my coment up above ;)

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BalsBigBrother

Been having a long hard think about my Eve playing as my sub is due for renewal. I am not sure I want to be associated with the game anymore though to be fair I personally haven’t had any issues while in game.

I just feel I can’t continue to support a game were incidents such as the recent one can occur though again to be fair to CCP they handled it as well as can be expected. It really is a case of some bad apples really spoiling the barrel so I am going to step away for now. I won’t rule out going back but yeah for now on a break.

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Sally Bowls

“to be fair to CCP they handled it as well as can be expected.” – I don’t disagree, but something doesn’t feel quite right. They set up a player council for big null sec blocks to get their people, like the Judge, elected, they flew him to Iceland and the “deal” was negotiated in front of CCP employees. Nothing leaps to mind that “CCP should obviously have done …” but IDK. put me down for unease at the least.

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There are many sophisticated aspects of EVE. But at the end of the day, I am not sure the world is a better place because CCP provides a place for EVE players to be EVE players.

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camren_rooke

So you are saying ‘Nothing draws a crowd like a crowd?’

or maybe, ‘All press is good press?’

or as was seen last November, ‘Scandal and outrage are the cheapest form of campai…advertising.’

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Armsbend

Don’t you think Eve could be beneficial in the sense it is a sort of prison? To keep Eve players away from the general populace of gaming?

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zeko_rena

I am so very confused

Bad apples?
Who is the bad apple here?

Two alliances were at war, and one used espionage instead of pure pew pew to win a war, I think it is so fantastic that you have a sandbox with ways other than pew pew pew to win.

Hopefully it will be a lesson to all large Alliances in EVE Online to not give so much power to just one individual.

Unless you are referring to the chap that was making threats in game of harm outside of the game, that was a bit over the top on his part, but he was banned, so the bad apple is gone.

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BalsBigBrother

Yes I was referring to the chap making threats and yes he was banned but this isn’t just an isolated incident and I don’t think it will be the last either. Its not want I want from my gaming so I am going elsewhere for now.

I am not asking you to understand, agree or support my choice. If you think its stupid, illogical or whatever /shrugs. I am just stating my position and moving on with my life.

Have a nice day and take care o/

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zeko_rena

I don’t think it is stupid or illogical, it is completely fair enough, I simply wanted to understand more clearly the reasons why you were leaving, thank you for clearing it up

Hope you enjoy whatever game you move onto :)