PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds adds new crate drops with a 0.01% drop rate for items

    
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This game? Sleazy? Whay a shock.

Hey, kids, you like random cosmetic rewards, right? The latest patch currently in testing for PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds adds two new crates that can drop when you spend BP on a crate drop, and one of them requires a (paid) key to open. The other can be opened for free. Within both crates are a number of new cosmetic items, some of which have an astonishing 0.01% drop rate in the free crate. That means that on average, you would need to open 10,000 crates to see one of these things drop.

A helpful examination of other games with cosmetic crates reveals that those games tend to top out at one best-possible drop closer to once every 10 loot boxes opened. It’s also far easier or cheaper to get those boxes. Granted, we don’t yet know how much the keys for the paid crate are going to cost, and the drop rates are slightly better in the paid box (the rarest paid item has a 0.16% drop rate), but it’s still the sort of gouging for single items that is unlikely to sit well with anyone once the numbers are made clear.

At least the drop rates are right in the patch notes. That’s helpful.

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sirsam

And the rampant hacking shall continue even more so now, just to get these loot boxes to sell on the marketplace.

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Eh… I might’ve been disappointed if that would happen in some other game, but honestly I don’t really mind this happening in this game. PUBG is not really the type of game where cosmetics even matter to 99.99% of the players, it’s primary goal to kill all of the opponents in a very limited time frame, not RP with them or befriend any of them.

And there are more interesting/concerning things that are currently happening with this game, such as constant request of many legitimate players to “region lock” the Chinese players, most of whom have access to this game for much cheaper price and seem to have very easy access to various cheats for this game, cheats that can easily bypass the current automated anti-cheat engine (BattlEye, by third-party developer). You can clearly see from Steam’s reviews that this is currently a much bigger “issue” than any “chance of cosmetic item drop” stuff.

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Darthbawl

I’m still trying to get beyond the fact that they actually published the % chances of getting each item. I think it might be getting a little chilly willy downstairs in the h-e-l-l. LOL

Could this possibly be the start of a good trend in the industry? I’m giving that a 0.0001% chance. Pay me $5 and I’ll increase that for you. :P

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agemyth 😩

They are working with Tencent on localizing a more appropriate Chinese version of the game, so that would mean they have to publish drop rates for that market at the least. Pretty much the same reason we have drop rates for games like Overwatch and Dota 2 these days.

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A Dad Supreme

I’m just glad that’s all that was in the box…

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camren_rooke

Hey! That box cost 4.99!

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Zora

So if I get this straight they did disclose the actual odds of the drop, or that math has been extrapolated from datamining ?

I’m not going to comment on the drop rate (eeeek!) but with such odds I am amazed they would come out straight and tell you you’re better off chasing a royal flush at the poker table or something along those lines.

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van_glorious

The data is right in the patch notes :)

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Rumm

I truly don’t understand the appeal of this game. It’s popularity seems to be entirely a creation of a few big Twitch streamers who got the ball rolling.

It has CS:GO graphics, one map (with another in testing?), bugs out the ass, horrid gunplay, terrible sound design. Through a year of early access the game has barely changed outside of fixing game breaking bugs. How anyone thinks it’s worth a AAA price is beyond me. I feel like Mugatu in Zoolander, nobody else seems to notice these things and I feel like a crazy person. IGN gave it a 9.5/10…half a percentage from being a masterpiece. Maybe I’m just a 26 year old grandpa who can’t understand what the kids are playing these days.

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Melissa McDonald

I don’t get it either. But I have seldom run with the herd and I often feel that way.

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Zora

IGN gave it a 9.5/10…half a percentage from being a masterpiece.

What about the runner ups, are fortnite and paladins getting the same positive reviews after joining the pack?

Fortnite specifically share the status of being technically in its beta still, or was until they decided to add the battle royale tag on the cover I think… heh

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pubg fully launched several weeks ago now. it’s much improved from early access as well.

the reason pubg gets high scores compared to other br games is it’s much more polished where it counts. stuff like vastly superior gunplay and interfacing with the environment/ui.

hizi king of the hill and fortnite suffer from terribad gunplay and nasty jank in those areas.

pubg also has much more interesting and better made maps, no matter how much reddit memes about it using store assets as if that proves something negative.

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deekay_000

pubg has excelent sound tho? OO

also since it’s released they solved almost all of the issues it had in early access? i have to come across a game breaking bug prior to launch as it was, some annoying ones to be sure but not game breaking.

also the launch version is a dramatic change from early access in various areas, including new renderer.

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van_glorious

I do understand the appeal, even though I don’t play it and probably never will. Though streamers did contribute to the success of the game in some way, the success of the game in no way falls solely on streamers.

People seem to forget that games started with simple gameplay in mind. It is only recently, that people expect video games to be these huge hollywood-esque titles that have millions of dollars sunken into marketing and aesthetics.

Gamers play games, because they are fun, and PUBG is a great example for this. Take for instance Warcraft 3. Warcraft 3 was a great game, but what truely shined was the multiplayer, specifically the modded multiplayer. Without having to go into much detail, you can clearly see that a mod that started out in Warcraft 3 became the greatest success in video game history eevvaaarrrrrrr : O

My point is this: PUBG is low budget. It lacks custom asthetics, concept art, a story mode, voice actors, expensive marketing campaign, etc. It has one thing however that no amount of R&D or marketing can produce, and that is true passion.

I’ve never played DOTA, but I’ve played Warcraft 3. It doesn’t mean it was bad, it just meant I had no interest in it. I did however notice that from a gameplay aspect, that DOTA was excellent in that regard, given the limited budget and manpower. I believe we can say the same for PUBG, and I really hope it motivates more indie developers to pursue their dreams, rather than chasing after something that will probably get them more money.

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I’m skeptical. There’s already mounting evidences that devs are already starting jumping into this “battle royale” bandwagon that speaks more about chasing a fad, than true passion. You see games that are originally about something else suddenly change their direction.

And it is because of pugb. The success of it, similar to how WoW spawned countless “WoW clones” that plagued the MMORPG landscape for quite some time.

Anyway, I’ve been disregarding review scores, and IGN, for quite some time, but it still invokes a ludicrous reaction for pubg to receive a 9.5/10. Let’s remember games like Half-Life, Warcraft 3, and ARMA on their own, not on the stuff they spawn that stagnated their respective genre.

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van_glorious

Don’t get me wrong. I didn’t mean to comment on their success as of late, rather I meant to comment on their intensions when they first started out. Truth be told, money corrupts. Blizzard for example was my all-time favorite developer until they got filthy rich… and wanted more. I still respect and praise their early games, despite the direction Blizzard is going in these days : )
The brains behind the whole idea of PUBG even went out to say, that PUBG didn’t deserve the amount of rewards and praise it received, and that there were way better games out there that deserve the rewards PUBG received. That’s saying a lot from someone, who could get away with preaching to the industry about why his game is so succesful and others’ aren’t. That’s something I can respect.
The devs of PUBG did not expect the game to be the success that it is today. What the future holds for the game, what developers decide to jump the bandwagon, how they will try to nickle and dime their playerbase and how they will try to gather new players, I cannot say, but what I can say is that this game was made to be fun first and foremost. The idea of fun stemming from a “simple” mod. That will to me always be the key to success, and it’s the point I’m trying to make.

The thing about WoW clones, is that developers just saw the success of WoW and wanted a piece of the pie. It’s really not fair to blame WoW for “spawning WoW clones”. I’m not saying that is exactly what you said, but I hope you get my point. I’d rather like to imagine that there is a fear of taking risks, so developoers just choose to adapt to a gameplay model that has been proven to be financially viable and that they might or might not be passionate about the project. Motivation: Profit.

My thoughts when it comes to game journalism these days: Disregard them, which you say you do, so it shouldn’t seem ludicrous to you at all that IGN would give the game such a high score. I assume you already know this, but just in case google “Too much water IGN”. I’ve stopped looking at game reviews, especially from IGN over 8 years ago. Nothing can surprise me anymore when it comes to reviews or game journalism these days.

I have to disagree with what you mentioned with stagnation. I love mods, and have been a huge fan of mods since Warcraft 3 all the way to Fallout 4. Mods are made for free by gamers for gamers with no incentive to make money from it. Warcraft 3 had DOTA, and DOTA was free. People simply loved it, I didn’t. Doesn’t mean DOTA is or was bad or “stagnated” the industry : )

tl;dr: Believe me, I’m not a fan of PUBG by any means, but it really isn’t surprising or incomprehensible to me that a vast majority of people might like something I don’t.

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Nick // Genghis

This is exactly how I feel. When I listen in on my real life group of friends playing it’s like a 90% of the time combating a bug. When the netcode/hitreg won’t listen and they get frustrated and die, it’s like you guys do know there are pretty polished gunplay/combat FPS games still out there and releasing right fellas? But all they wanna do is jump out a plane and land and scavenge. I get the appeal of the ‘thriller’ aspect where it’s quiet… too quiet, and all of a sudden you get jumped/jump someone. I can see that being relatively interesting.

In fact, I was so curious I decided to install Fortnite and try it out. Battle Royale is just not for me. I also find it funny that some of my friends that play (some are in the Top 1000 on PC overall which is hilarious in its own right), are SO worried about their rank and their efficacy at the game. They do realize its literally praying to RNGesus every time you jump out that plane… heh eSports my a**.

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StonerMk2

Ive never really understood it either, and would also agree that Twitch streamers definitely helped get this game off the ground. Its fun to watch every now and then but i know its not for me. Not really a competitive gamer. Id rather sit back in my RPG or MMO and relax and not have to listen to a bunch of toxic assholes/children call me every name in the book.

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Sargonnax

I agree with you for the most part. I don’t get it. No progression of any kind. Same limited map. Same character. Extremely limited content. Two of my friends like it and I give them crap about it all the time.

“Oh look, they added 12 more blades of grass to the map. I’m sure millions will rejoice”

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A Dad Supreme

That means that on average, you would need to open 10,000 crates to see one of these things drop.

https://dotesports.com/pubg/news/pubg-3-million-concurrent-players-19829

So we have companies that say they need to sell boxes with stupidly ridiculous odds because they don’t have enough players or steady income coming in to keep the game running…

…and now we have a company with almost more players than anyone in the market that is selling boxes with stupidly ridiculous odds because they are striking while the iron is hot.

Players are damned if they do, damned if they don’t. “Support them”, that is.

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van_glorious

Are you the head of marketing or something? That’s the most brilliant money making scheme I’ve ever heard!! XD

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deekay_000

it’s the same as all valve mp games made in the last several years, which generally everyone defends it.

which i generally find rather amusing in general the contrast (as well as the same subs that tend to defend valve’s hat economy occasionally bashing pubg using it for some reason oO)

fwiw while these items can resell on the hat marketplace for hundreds of dollars for rare ones, they are purely cosmetic. (which after about idk a dozen or so hours in the game i don’t think colours or brightnight of clothing has any real advantage or disadvantage in the game)

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van_glorious

In all fairness, TF2 is f2p.

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deekay_000

so is dota2, where as csgo is not.

they all have the same model. and pubg is less than $40cad so still not full priced.

also to be fair i spent $20 on cosmetics for pubg and got some really aesthetically pleasing stuff out of it. most of the items being dirt cheap on the hat marketplace.

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van_glorious

Oh, is hat economy a term used specifically for boxes in Valve games?

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deekay_000

hat economy is the whole system of cosmetics in their games including lockboxes and trading cards and marketplace.

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van_glorious

Ah, I never knew that. Thanks for clearing that up for me! Though I’m not a big fan of pruchasing cosmetics(I’d rather them be free drops in-game), there is really no P2W mindset behind it, so I’m fine with it. Gotta support the game somehow, I guess XD

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you get the normal lootboxes without paying extra. just that the drop rates are kind of wack/slow rate of getting them.

for example i found blizzard’s gameplay earned lock boxes in hots and ow came alot faster.

also found that buying the lockboxes in these games compared to just out right buying what i wanted was a waste of time and money too.

at this point i barely pay attention to my progress to the next lockbox in pubg.

where as in hots i know every hand ful of games or so it’ll throw one at me and it’ll be alot more rewarding even if i get nothing i actually want.

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Bruno Brito

TF2 and Dota cosmetic drops do exist. They’re just EXTREMELY SLOW to get.

Honestly, with the advent of models like HotS 2.0 and Battlerite offering cosmetics like candy, i expect most old games to follow suit. Specially TF2, where having a more personal loadout changes a lot of how you perceive the game.

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deekay_000

if its anything like valve’s games that feature this same hat economy, then iirc keys are about $2.50.

which in those others game as i recall all the lootboxes require a paid key. or at least in csgo that’s the case.

fun thing about the hat economy is as well that a % of every item from these boxes that gets sold in the market place between players both valve adn the developer get a cut, as is also the case with trading cards or something (which is why it’s a popular scam on steam to make asset flips that people farm cards for to make the developer money and so on becuase people ordinarily just refund them rather than actually keep these “games”)

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van_glorious

Been thinking about buying this game for the sole purpose of selling items on the community market in Steam.

What have I become….

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deekay_000

it’s generally a losing bet to spend money on the boxes and the drops you tend to get just playing tend to be worth less than half a dollar.

i spent less than $20 extra on the game on buying cosmetics i liked directly and got a really snazzy outfit and some spare choices to play around with later.