Elder Scrolls Online’s Dragon Bones DLC and update 17 are live – and the new outfit system is not cheap

Elder Scrolls Online’s paid Dragon Bones DLC and free update 17 are finally fully launched on PC. While technically the update rollout was yesterday, the EU and NA servers were up and down throughout the afternoon after an extra-long maintenance and an emergency downtime to fix a fairly major experience exploit/bug. Multiple storage bugs are also being reported on Reddit, so heads-up there.

The headline feature of update 17 itself is the new outfit system, but players are reporting it’s expensive to access indeed: You’re looking at 1500 crowns (roughly $15) for an extra outfit slot, and yes, that’s per character, though you do get one freebie per toon. Altering that outfit will cost you another 400 crowns (though you can also buy those with in-game gold). Incidentally, subbing to the game nets you 1500 crowns every month, but it’d take you a long time to deck out alts that way.

“The Dragon Bones DLC Game Pack includes two new dungeons – Scalecaller Peak and Fang Lair — available in both normal and veteran modes. Players are also rewarded with new items and monster sets, collectibles, and achievements, as well as a Renegade Dragon Priest mask, just for entering one of the dungeons. The Dragon Bones DLC Game Pack is free for ESO Plus members, and available for purchase from the Crown Store for non-members. The free-for-everyone Update 17 is being released simultaneously with Dragon Bones. The update includes a revamped outfit system, two new battlegrounds, a highly anticipated home storage system, and additional gameplay features such as level up and skill advisors and various strategical improvements to combat. The additions and improvements included in Update 17 are available free of charge for all players.”

Check out our complete coverage of the patch from announcement to now, along with our playthrough of Dragon Bones with the ZeniMax team last week.

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rafael12104

Ah, the outfit cash grab. Yup. Most modern MMORPGs are not immune.

But it is a bit short sighted to make slots so expensive. Incentivise people to buy more outfits by lowering the cost of the slots significantly. It is a no brainer.

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Coolit

In my opinion if you are paying for the subscription you should have all the outfit slots unlocked as part of that fee.

I’ve played ESO casually from the start when it was subscription however I would never sub now because of loot boxes and systems like this.

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postlarval

ESO May go down in history as the MMO with the whiniest bunch of self-absorbed entitlement babies the genre has ever seen.

Meltdowns over optional items. *shakes head*

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Michael

I think it is pretty fair to complain normally; outside this case. I mean, unless you are willing to buy the box, buy every DLC and every chapter (Probably somewhere in the 150$ range per year without a sub) or sub for 15 a month / buy no DLC but still be forced to buy chapters then you won’t get much out of the game.

Chapters are where the turning point was mainly for the monetization. 40$ is way overpriced for the amount of content especially when you consider the amount of content in an expansion like PoF or Stormblood. Chapters are essentially DLC renamed so they do not have to provide it free with a sub. At this point, since Morrowind, it has become blatantly apparent that the DLC is going to be lightweight compared to the must purchase to access Chapter DLC.

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Apridise

You don’t apparently play many mmos….

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zoward

I wanted to love this game, but kept having the nagging feeling I was being shaken down, and gave it up. No regrets.

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Toy Clown

I’m in the same boat. I want to play, but I also realize they’re applying a “psychological” cash shop ploy to get you addicted and feel like you need a lot of these things. It sucks for people who pay a sub and have to pay out for all the rest as well.

I never had too much issue is there was no sub, but with a sub and expensive cash shop? They’re burning the candle at both ends and going after the whales.

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Leiloni

The sub covers everything unless you feel the need to spend a ton of crowns each month, in which case you’d have that problem in every game.

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Phubarrh

I bought all the DLCs with the crowns from a year’s sub.

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Castagere Shaikura

They are becoming the next EA.

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Chris Walker

Hmm, not sure what you mean in the context of this article. For example, if you want an outfit slot, you get one, for free. It’s only if you want more than one that you have to pay. Seems legit to me, especially because a second, or third, outfit slot is completely optional and has no impact on gameplay.

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Herro Mongorian

Cosmetics are expensive, mounts are expensive, loot crates are expensive, houses are expensive, DLCs are expensive, expansions are expensive. The game is really expensive.

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ShivanSwordsman

Don’t forget that things like the crafting bag, one of the only things I found made the game enjoyable for me, requires a monthly sub to access. Yeah, I’d rather not.

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Yaner

Yeah, pretty much. I remember getting the game last year, logging in, and being greeted by the cash shop urging me to purchase like 6 DLCs for $20-$30 each. I played the game til about level 30 and quit. Way too much emphasis on the cash-shop, and to be honest the game got repetitive and I found it boring.

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Coolit

Exactly this.

This is why regardless of how good ESO gets it will always be at a disadvantage verses FFXIV and WoW as these games represent far better value if you are prepared to pay a sub.

On a side note, being a collector its annoying that 99.9% of the mounts and pets are in the cash shop and not earnable ingame too even if you subscribe.

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Randy Savage

This game’s business model keeps discovering new lows for itself.

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Chris Walker

How so? Not only can you play the game for free (after the initial purchase), but you also get a free outfit slot in this latest update. Seems pretty great.

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Randy Savage

1500 Crowns for additional character slots and it’s not even account wide? Even SWTOR isn’t that bad.

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Estranged

lol yeah, it’s cheap to unlock account wide items on SWTOR

Amazing. Someone out SWTORed, SWTOR.

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Richard de Leon III

Never thought I would live to see the day that happened, does that mean the apocalypse is happening >.<

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Leiloni

You mean outfit slots and you don’t need a second outfit slot unless you want to save two outfits at the same time.

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Randy Savage

Meanwhile every other game that has an outfit system lets you save multiple outfits at a time and doesn’t charge you as much as a monthly subscription for each slot. I know you like the game so you want to defend it in typical apologist fashion, but there’s no way you can justify this unless you own stock in the company

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Coolit

I pay my subscription in WoW and get unlimited outfit slots at no extra cost, how is ESO good value?

FFXIV is the same with their new system.

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cambruin

Dear Lord, 1500 crowns for a character slot you don’t even need as there’s only 5 classes and you can customize them in a million ways, so the only reason to start the same class anew would be if you wish to try out a different race.

Also, 1500 crowns is the equivalent of the crowns granted for subscribing one month.

Definately a new low! I really dislike people like you. This game has without a doubt one of the fairest payment models and you decide to disregard all of it over something as futile as this?

I often wonder who stoops to new lows; the industry or it’s ‘fans’?

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Randy Savage

So once a month you get a new outfit slot using your cash shop stipend when in other games it only costs a measly amount of in-game currency? First lockboxes and now this. But because I attacked your game, I’m the a-hole and not the greedy fat cat overlords who systematically ruin every good thing in gaming? This game used to have the best business model until it started incorporating glorified gambling and nickel-and-dime tactics.

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cambruin

So wait, their business model is flawed because it has you pay for additional outfit slots, because it has lootboxes and because…. what else?

Let’s see. I played World of Wracraft. While I still think subscription-only is thé best payment model, WoW also has mircotransactions on top. What else did I play? SWtOR. Could there possibly be a worse payment model? I played LotRO. It has lockoboxes inside lockboxes. It also has outfit slots, up to 10 or so, but you need to pay up if you wish to unlock the fourth and up. Furthermore, the amount of items to use in outfits are limited. You can add what? 60 Items? If you want more you got ta pay up for 10 additional wardrobe slots, all the way up to 220. How about Black Desert? That game has actual P2W outfits that provide clear benefits otherwise unobtainable ingame. The only games having a better payment model would be World of Warcraft or Guild Wars 2.

So yes, ESO has lockoboxes and I am 100% convinced that this is a very foul method to increase revenue even if they are purely cosmetic. And yes, it does have you pay for a second or third outfit slot. But stating this game’s payment model is forever finding new lows?
You are either very out of touch, have extremely limited experience with MMOs in general or you’re just full of spite.

Where’s the nickle-and-dime tactics you’re talking about? The lockboxes? That’s it?

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Randy Savage

As I said in my original comment, it is finding new lows for itself. First it was lock boxes. Now it’s this stupid outfit system. And it is beyond stupid. No other MMO makes you pay $15 for a second outfit. That’s just beyond asinine. So first ESO added lockboxes when they really didn’t need to. The game was doing fine. But they added them anyway because of corporate greed and greed alone. Now they’ve added this outfit system and marred it by charging FIFTEEN EFFING DOLLARS just for additional outfit slots! I’m not sure what’s more ridiculous: that price tag or your vehement defense of it. Everything else about ESO’s business model is fine. But if they keep continuing this downward trend of lockboxes and then $15 outfit slots, what’s next?

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Michael

Lol, WoW barely has any micro-transactions. Hell, you could probably go for months without even noticing the button for the cash shop. They add so little to the cash shop it is insane. I would barely consider it a cash shop. If WoW has a cash shop, FF14 has a cash shop as well lol (which btw actually has more stuff in it, but is still completely light weight and barely gets added to)

ESO has a sub model, a free to play model, an expansion model, and a DLC model combined. Not to mention everything in the cash shop is insanely overpriced. The DLC is insanely overpriced as well. 40$ for one new zone? I will be over……..here paying 30$ for 5 new zones plus free ones to follow until the next expansion in GW2.

I would say they are eating eating their whole cake, and then having a second one.

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Coolit

If you have no issue paying a sub ESO doesn’t represent value in the least. I don’t feel nickel and dimed in FFXIV or WoW at all however in ESO it’s always just around the corner.

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Greaterdivinity

Outfit system is pricier than I thought it may be ($15 per outfit SLOT?), but I’m down with it. Apparently I don’t have shit for motifs, but did manage to get an outfit I’m happy with.

Think B&S is back on hold for a while so I can make some more progress in ESO, still working on clearing out quests and collecting skyshards and have a long way to go.

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Leiloni

On the plus side at least, motifs for the Outfit system (but not crafting) should now be account-wide. So if you have any crafting alts just make sure to log in on them so your characters get those motifs to show up in their collections.

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Richard de Leon III

Wait a min….you have to pay to swap costumes?!?!?!

Bad enough you have to buy slots imho :(

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Johnnyt305

Costumes are all free to change anytime,. so are polymorphs, so is dying any of your armor you find. OUtfit system is something new and different. You get one free and can buy more slots.

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Daniel Reasor

^This, and I think the developers could have done more to communicate this clearly. The new system is effectively an addition to the costume system that lets you build your own.

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Leiloni

You have to pay gold to change your current outfit to a new look, just like every other game including GW2 and WoW. If you want more slots than just your free slot, you pay 1500 crowns to buy additional slots, but I believe switching between slots is free. The only thing you have to pay for is decorating those slots. The 400 crown cost is if you want to skip the gold fee and be a whale, in which case you can pay 400 crowns instead of gold.

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Matthew Yetter

Not EVERY other game. LotRO gives something like 3 free slots and it’s totally free to change between outfits at any time, as often as you wish. You can also modify each outfit at any time, at no cost.

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Chris Walker

You can swap between outfits at any time for no cost.

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kalamari_

where do you have to pay gold to change your outfit in gw2? you can do it everywhere in the world for free all the time, starting at level 1 witjout any unlocks whatsoever.

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Leiloni

There’s a currency to change your gear skins in GW2 (those transmutation charges on the right). You get some of them for free in various activities in game, but outside of that you buy them on the gem store.

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sauldo

I think that his point was that the outfit system in GW2 is separate from the wardrobe system, and that it doesn’t cost any currencies to switch outfits.

Transmutation charges only apply to armor skins.
Even though I’m not a fan of the system, I must admit that those charges are pretty easy to come by if you do a little PVP or WvW.

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Estranged

This isn’t like any other game. You buy slots in SWTOR and WoW with in game gold.

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Stormwaltz

Some other items I noticed in the brief time I had to poke around last night:

There are new dye colors you unlock by disassembling items of a certain level range, but they don’t unlock retroactively. You have to do that manually, presumably by crafting something you learned how to make a long time ago and immediately disassembling it again. I didn’t test to be sure that works.

The unique non-armor clothing items you can find through the theft system (peasant outfits, shoes, etc.) aren’t usable in the outfit system.

You can hide your hat with the outfit system, but no other pieces of armor. If, like me, you were hoping to ditch your giant shoulderpads, you’re out of luck. You can replace them with smaller ones, at least.

Housing storage comes in two sizes. A 30 slot chest costs 1k crowns and a 60 slot chest costs 2k. You can’t pull crafting mats from them.

There’s no free amount of housing storage offered. To some degree I understand that, since everyone can get a token home for free (no upfront cost and no maintenance fee). I actually coughed up coins to unlock one of the premium homes, and I still got nada. I’ve been told you get a 30-slot chest for free now as part of the leveling rewards, but like the dyes it doesn’t unlock retroactively. Unless I’ll get it next time I earn a champion point — I haven’t tested that yet.

It’s a bit disappointing, TBH. To end on a positive note, the outfit system’s demo ability does mean I can now see what every piece of armor in the game looks like without going to an exterior website, or guessing based on the icons.

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Al_Bundy

You get one chest for free at level 18 (really not a big deal to bring a new character to level 18).

Other than that you can purchase chests from Writ Vouchers and Telvar Stones and in the Crown Store.

So you get one for free and then you have 2 possible options to obtain storage chests (other than buying them for real money). I think that’s absolutely fair.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/395166/home-storage-system-summary-text-guide

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Tandor

Outfits are certainly the sort of stuff that should be sold in a cash shop given that such a thing exists and that, sadly, we’ve moved on from subscription-only games in the mainstream MMO market.

Whether the price is right, and they should be on a character-specific basis, are separate points altogether.

There’s no doubt that a lot of players are interested in such things, and it’s really only through P2P or F2P games that they become feasible. People argue that they want to pay a subscription and get everything in the game included in that, but the chances of a developer providing out of subscription revenue the amount of cosmetic and other fluff things that cash shops generate the revenue to support are slim indeed, not least when most people don’t want to pay a subscription at all, let alone one at appreciably higher than the standard price from 20 years ago in order to reflect current costs. On the other hand, many subscribers would happily do away with cosmetic and other fluff things if the developers focused on additional content instead.

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Leiloni

You get a free outfit slot and can equip an outfit in there with in game gold. The only time you’d need crowns for anything is if you didn’t want to overwrite that slot with a new outfit, and felt like you needed to save 2 outfits at the same time (and what, switch between them a lot?) So while it could be cheaper crown-wise, you really don’t need to spend crowns at all unless you’re obsessed with changing looks a lot. Also you can still use costumes the same way you always did – this system only changes the way your actual gear looks.